[RBW] Re: Compass Barlow Pass Tires
I honestly don't remember what pressure I ran the Barlow Pass at. Lower than I ever ran Jack Browns at for sure. I fooled with them a lot at my house before departing. Having my wife photograph the sidewall next to a steel rule while I sat on the loaded bike. Nerdery incarnate. I just flipped through my pics from back then. It looks like 60 or 65 psi is where I ended up. But I wouldn't swear to it. I do remember that once I was on the road, I never messed with them for 2 weeks. With so much air, it just doesn't matter as much. On Saturday, May 2, 2015 at 3:31:45 PM UTC-7, John Hawrylak wrote: Ty what tire pressure did you use on the 900 mike trip??? John Hawrylak Woodstown NJ On Thursday, April 30, 2015 at 7:14:16 PM UTC-4, Ty Graham wrote: Hey, I just wanted to add my $.05. I've been riding Barlow Pass on my 64cm Atlantis for as long as they've been available. Great tires. Love the ride. I've been a Jack Brown guy. Also a GB Cypres guy. I have Marathon Supremes mounted on a spare wheelset, but I just hate the ride; too dead. My normal Barlow Pass are the ELs. Best tire ever. Feels like the tire the bike was made for. Last October I rode 900 miles to San Francisco down the coast. I used Barlow Pass regular on my mechanic's recommendation. Loaded weight of bike, rider, baggage, water, etc. was 310lbs. Great ride on all kinds of roads and not a single flat! I would have kept with the Barlow just for the great ride. Now that I've experienced the reliability, I'm totally sold. Here's a pic: https://flic.kr/p/priht2 Ty Graham Seattle -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Compass Barlow Pass Tires
Ty what tire pressure did you use on the 900 mike trip??? John Hawrylak Woodstown NJ On Thursday, April 30, 2015 at 7:14:16 PM UTC-4, Ty Graham wrote: Hey, I just wanted to add my $.05. I've been riding Barlow Pass on my 64cm Atlantis for as long as they've been available. Great tires. Love the ride. I've been a Jack Brown guy. Also a GB Cypres guy. I have Marathon Supremes mounted on a spare wheelset, but I just hate the ride; too dead. My normal Barlow Pass are the ELs. Best tire ever. Feels like the tire the bike was made for. Last October I rode 900 miles to San Francisco down the coast. I used Barlow Pass regular on my mechanic's recommendation. Loaded weight of bike, rider, baggage, water, etc. was 310lbs. Great ride on all kinds of roads and not a single flat! I would have kept with the Barlow just for the great ride. Now that I've experienced the reliability, I'm totally sold. Here's a pic: https://flic.kr/p/priht2 Ty Graham Seattle -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Compass Barlow Pass Tires
Schiller, Leven, Jawnson, Allen, to name a few, but are there really 900 mikes on the forum? :-) Sent from my iPhone On May 2, 2015, at 3:31 PM, John Hawrylak john.hawry...@verizon.net wrote: Ty what tire pressure did you use on the 900 mike trip??? John Hawrylak Woodstown NJ On Thursday, April 30, 2015 at 7:14:16 PM UTC-4, Ty Graham wrote: Hey, I just wanted to add my $.05. I've been riding Barlow Pass on my 64cm Atlantis for as long as they've been available. Great tires. Love the ride. I've been a Jack Brown guy. Also a GB Cypres guy. I have Marathon Supremes mounted on a spare wheelset, but I just hate the ride; too dead. My normal Barlow Pass are the ELs. Best tire ever. Feels like the tire the bike was made for. Last October I rode 900 miles to San Francisco down the coast. I used Barlow Pass regular on my mechanic's recommendation. Loaded weight of bike, rider, baggage, water, etc. was 310lbs. Great ride on all kinds of roads and not a single flat! I would have kept with the Barlow just for the great ride. Now that I've experienced the reliability, I'm totally sold. Here's a pic: https://flic.kr/p/priht2 Ty Graham Seattle -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Compass Barlow Pass Tires
Ty, Your 5¢ is two bits to me. How they comfortably handle your use is more interesting than the max (useless trivia) recommended pressure. As several have said before, the larger volume tires do seem to have more tactile character change through the range of pressures than 28mm (the wide tire of yore) and narrower tires. The wide tire revolution came faster with these widths and frames clearing them becoming more common. Truth was I felt like a lot of my money went down the 28mm rabbit hole in pursuit of a better riding and performing tire, like that UFO tubular that mounted on clincher rims, which didn't have an appreciable achilles tendon. Those foibles were relative and more appreciable when the benefits realized per additional cost were lower. I now look forward to the next set of tires I need to buy. Andy Cheatham Pittsburgh On Thursday, April 30, 2015 at 7:14:16 PM UTC-4, Ty Graham wrote: Hey, I just wanted to add my $.05. I've been riding Barlow Pass on my 64cm Atlantis for as long as they've been available. Great tires. Love the ride. I've been a Jack Brown guy. Also a GB Cypres guy. I have Marathon Supremes mounted on a spare wheelset, but I just hate the ride; too dead. My normal Barlow Pass are the ELs. Best tire ever. Feels like the tire the bike was made for. Last October I rode 900 miles to San Francisco down the coast. I used Barlow Pass regular on my mechanic's recommendation. Loaded weight of bike, rider, baggage, water, etc. was 310lbs. Great ride on all kinds of roads and not a single flat! I would have kept with the Barlow just for the great ride. Now that I've experienced the reliability, I'm totally sold. Here's a pic: https://flic.kr/p/priht2 Ty Graham Seattle -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Compass Barlow Pass Tires
I think dead is a perfect description of Marathons, but they are tough and they are fast. My best riding buddy wants exactly that on all his bikes and runs his pressures high. I'm curious if anybody has tried Barlows on Mavic Open Pro rims. I've figured out from experience that the Challange bead is made for skinny rims, and don't bite as well on wider rims like my Synergies. I've also figured out skinny rims are tougher in the long-run, but not trying to debate that. On Thursday, April 30, 2015 at 1:11:18 AM UTC-5, Mike Shaljian wrote: I think you need to be more skeptical of the notion that the Marathons are, in fact, significantly more flat-resistant than the Barlows. The higher volume and lower pressure characteristics of the Barlow make it, in my estimation, a very flat resistant tire. I have put probably 3500 miles on Barlows in the past year or so, entirely while living in college towns with lots of broken glass. Like, actually, fairly large bits are all around and ground glass is everywhere where I've been riding. I have not had one flat in that time and I wouldn't say I ride particularly cautiously. I just run the Barlows at 38 in the rear and 34 up front, and I'm 190 lbs. I agree with Patrick, running them at low pressure is almost unsettlingly more comfortable and zippier, in my experience. Marathons always felt so very dead to me, on both a Quickbeam and Sam Hillborne. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Compass Barlow Pass Tires
I think the best argument about optimum low pressure is texture-following. Chatter and vibration from high tire pressure feel like riding with your hair on fire, but as Jan and others have demonstrated, you get the worst rolling resistance when your tire is not conforming to the road surface texture. On Thursday, April 30, 2015 at 7:57:08 AM UTC-5, David Banzer wrote: I agree with others. Try them at different pressures before giving up on them. IME, larger volume tires are more sensitive to pressure/feel relationship. That's a good thing as you can adjust them as needed for what road surface you're on. Typically I feel faster on gravel with a lower pressure, slightly higher pressure for paved roads. My experience is limited to similar 650b tires and 35mm Paselas, not specifically Barlow Pass tires (though they are on my short list once Paselas and Resist Nomads wear out). David Chicago -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Compass Barlow Pass Tires
I agree with others. Try them at different pressures before giving up on them. IME, larger volume tires are more sensitive to pressure/feel relationship. That's a good thing as you can adjust them as needed for what road surface you're on. Typically I feel faster on gravel with a lower pressure, slightly higher pressure for paved roads. My experience is limited to similar 650b tires and 35mm Paselas, not specifically Barlow Pass tires (though they are on my short list once Paselas and Resist Nomads wear out). David Chicago On Thursday, April 30, 2015 at 1:11:18 AM UTC-5, Mike Shaljian wrote: I think you need to be more skeptical of the notion that the Marathons are, in fact, significantly more flat-resistant than the Barlows. The higher volume and lower pressure characteristics of the Barlow make it, in my estimation, a very flat resistant tire. I have put probably 3500 miles on Barlows in the past year or so, entirely while living in college towns with lots of broken glass. Like, actually, fairly large bits are all around and ground glass is everywhere where I've been riding. I have not had one flat in that time and I wouldn't say I ride particularly cautiously. I just run the Barlows at 38 in the rear and 34 up front, and I'm 190 lbs. I agree with Patrick, running them at low pressure is almost unsettlingly more comfortable and zippier, in my experience. Marathons always felt so very dead to me, on both a Quickbeam and Sam Hillborne. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Compass Barlow Pass Tires
I haven't tried the Barlows I haven't had Marathons for a while because fo their stiff nature. I recently went from Panaracer Pasela 35's to the new 38's it has been a HUGE difference in feel. Even going from their regular tire to the PT (extra flat protection) the tire is a vast improvement. I've got a coupla months on these tires with no flats yet. They aren't quite as dreamy as the Big Apples on my Yuba, but defineitly a tire worth consideration if you're trying to split the difference between supple flat protection. For reference I'm around 150 ride them at 40-45 psi, but have let them get down to the 30's without any problems. Best, Eric Indpls -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Compass Barlow Pass Tires
On Thu, Apr 30, 2015 at 1:11 AM, Mike Shaljian mikeshalj...@gmail.com wrote: I think you need to be more skeptical of the notion that the Marathons are, in fact, significantly more flat-resistant than the Barlows. The higher volume and lower pressure characteristics of the Barlow make it, in my estimation, a very flat resistant tire. Mike, I envy your luck vs. flats with the Barlow Pass tires. Commuting on city streets in Cedar Rapids tore the hell out of my GB Lierres. I finally took them off after 1500 miles and many flats, mostly from glass shard punctures. I had three separate X holes through the tread. But, the ride of supple tires is so magical that I keep trying. I put new Pari-Motos on my Riv, and flatted the rear within the first 50 miles. :( I'm going to try them tubeless (on tubeless-ready PL23 rims) to deal with the punctures. Tim -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Compass Barlow Pass Tires
On the subject of pressure: I tried Grand Bois Extra Leger 700x32 before I tried Compass. I think the max pressure (printed on the tire) was 90psi. I'm not sure, it may have been 100 or 110. At any rate, Jan's instructions with those tires were to use higher pressure because of the extremely supple sidewalls. I'm not sure why that was the case, and I remember being surprised to read that because the lower pressures were a big selling point. (Incidentally, those instructions are absent from the Compass tires.) I had been riding Jack Browns at around 80psi. I think I ran the GB at 90. I had flat issues from the get go. This was on CT spring thaw roads. They also didn't feel faster. I was also 50 lbs heavier than I am now, but that's what I weighed on the JBs too. So I gave up and went back to JBs. I love the Compass tires now, though. In all honesty, however, back before I discovered Riv, I rode 23mm tires at 100-110psi and had far, far fewer flats than since I've gone to fatter tires. I hate for that to be the case but that's my experience. I won't ever go back because I love the tires I ride now. Incidentally, I met a guy on an Atlantis on a brevet a few weeks ago. He said he'd had the bike for 7 years and never had a flat tire!!! He rode Schwalbes. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Compass Barlow Pass Tires
Ron, I just received a pair of the 700c Barlow Pass tires and am mounting them on my CX bike, which has Mavic Open Pro rims. I'll report back in a few days after I get a couple of rides in. They'll be replacing the green-label Jack Brown's, which I have zero complaints about, just wanted to see what all the fuss was about :) On Thursday, April 30, 2015 at 7:55:13 AM UTC-5, Ron Mc wrote: I think dead is a perfect description of Marathons, but they are tough and they are fast. My best riding buddy wants exactly that on all his bikes and runs his pressures high. I'm curious if anybody has tried Barlows on Mavic Open Pro rims. I've figured out from experience that the Challange bead is made for skinny rims, and don't bite as well on wider rims like my Synergies. I've also figured out skinny rims are tougher in the long-run, but not trying to debate that. On Thursday, April 30, 2015 at 1:11:18 AM UTC-5, Mike Shaljian wrote: I think you need to be more skeptical of the notion that the Marathons are, in fact, significantly more flat-resistant than the Barlows. The higher volume and lower pressure characteristics of the Barlow make it, in my estimation, a very flat resistant tire. I have put probably 3500 miles on Barlows in the past year or so, entirely while living in college towns with lots of broken glass. Like, actually, fairly large bits are all around and ground glass is everywhere where I've been riding. I have not had one flat in that time and I wouldn't say I ride particularly cautiously. I just run the Barlows at 38 in the rear and 34 up front, and I'm 190 lbs. I agree with Patrick, running them at low pressure is almost unsettlingly more comfortable and zippier, in my experience. Marathons always felt so very dead to me, on both a Quickbeam and Sam Hillborne. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Compass Barlow Pass Tires
thanks Mark On Thursday, April 30, 2015 at 4:20:37 PM UTC-5, Mark Reimer wrote: Ron, I just received a pair of the 700c Barlow Pass tires and am mounting them on my CX bike, which has Mavic Open Pro rims. I'll report back in a few days after I get a couple of rides in. They'll be replacing the green-label Jack Brown's, which I have zero complaints about, just wanted to see what all the fuss was about :) On Thursday, April 30, 2015 at 7:55:13 AM UTC-5, Ron Mc wrote: I think dead is a perfect description of Marathons, but they are tough and they are fast. My best riding buddy wants exactly that on all his bikes and runs his pressures high. I'm curious if anybody has tried Barlows on Mavic Open Pro rims. I've figured out from experience that the Challange bead is made for skinny rims, and don't bite as well on wider rims like my Synergies. I've also figured out skinny rims are tougher in the long-run, but not trying to debate that. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Compass Barlow Pass Tires
Hey, I just wanted to add my $.05. I've been riding Barlow Pass on my 64cm Atlantis for as long as they've been available. Great tires. Love the ride. I've been a Jack Brown guy. Also a GB Cypres guy. I have Marathon Supremes mounted on a spare wheelset, but I just hate the ride; too dead. My normal Barlow Pass are the ELs. Best tire ever. Feels like the tire the bike was made for. Last October I rode 900 miles to San Francisco down the coast. I used Barlow Pass regular on my mechanic's recommendation. Loaded weight of bike, rider, baggage, water, etc. was 310lbs. Great ride on all kinds of roads and not a single flat! I would have kept with the Barlow just for the great ride. Now that I've experienced the reliability, I'm totally sold. Here's a pic: https://flic.kr/p/priht2 Ty Graham Seattle -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Compass Barlow Pass Tires
I think you need to be more skeptical of the notion that the Marathons are, in fact, significantly more flat-resistant than the Barlows. The higher volume and lower pressure characteristics of the Barlow make it, in my estimation, a very flat resistant tire. I have put probably 3500 miles on Barlows in the past year or so, entirely while living in college towns with lots of broken glass. Like, actually, fairly large bits are all around and ground glass is everywhere where I've been riding. I have not had one flat in that time and I wouldn't say I ride particularly cautiously. I just run the Barlows at 38 in the rear and 34 up front, and I'm 190 lbs. I agree with Patrick, running them at low pressure is almost unsettlingly more comfortable and zippier, in my experience. Marathons always felt so very dead to me, on both a Quickbeam and Sam Hillborne. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Compass Barlow Pass Tires
Hi Daren, What size Marathon Supremes are you riding? And what pressures are you are you using in the Supremes and Barlows? Oh, and how much weight are you carrying on your Atlantis? I'm surprised by how they felt to you, my Supremes are so much stiffer than my Xtra Light Barlows, but then you said you were riding the regular Barlows? Thanks, John -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Compass Barlow Pass Tires
Let me know if you want me to take your Barlow Pass tires off your hands. I found the extralights to be astonishingly nice on my Hillborne, and would love a set of regular weight ones for my Atlantis. Are you missing something? Maybe, but you should trust your senses. Don't let somebody else tell you that you like something if you don't like it. Somebody will love those tires. On Tuesday, April 28, 2015 at 8:05:39 PM UTC-7, Darin G. wrote: I picked up a pair of Barlow Pass, regular weight tires last weekend and mounted them on my Atlantis. They are mounted on an 36h XT Mavic A719 rear and a 36h dyno Velocity Synergy front and gave them a test on a 25 miler this morning. They definitely feel lively and plush, like walking barefoot on a nice rug. Based on my experience with the Stampede Pass (also regular weight) on my Romulus, I expected them to be significantly faster than the Marathon Supremes that they replaced, but I was disappointed in this regard. Certainly not enough of an improvement in either comfort or speed to give up the flat resistance afforded by the Supremes, especially on a commuter. The Supreme's went back on tonight. Am I missing something? I have been thrilled with the Stampede Pass on the Rom, and I now consider them non-negotiable. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Compass Barlow Pass Tires
I think he specifically said they were plusher, but not faster, or not as fast as he wanted. My buddy has 35mm Supremes on his Dahon Tournado, and it rolls extremely well On Wednesday, April 29, 2015 at 12:13:21 PM UTC-5, John wrote: Hi Daren, What size Marathon Supremes are you riding? And what pressures are you are you using in the Supremes and Barlows? Oh, and how much weight are you carrying on your Atlantis? I'm surprised by how they felt to you, my Supremes are so much stiffer than my Xtra Light Barlows, but then you said you were riding the regular Barlows? Thanks, John -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Compass Barlow Pass Tires
Yeah, I was mostly hoping to speed up the Atlantis a little, but it just didn't happen. Its already very comfortable with the big Supremes, but my time over the route was the same with both tires. Maybe on a lighter wheel the difference would be more pronounced. On Wednesday, April 29, 2015 at 11:18:37 AM UTC-6, Ron Mc wrote: I think he specifically said they were plusher, but not faster, or not as fast as he wanted. My buddy has 35mm Supremes on his Dahon Tournado, and it rolls extremely well On Wednesday, April 29, 2015 at 12:13:21 PM UTC-5, John wrote: Hi Daren, What size Marathon Supremes are you riding? And what pressures are you are you using in the Supremes and Barlows? Oh, and how much weight are you carrying on your Atlantis? I'm surprised by how they felt to you, my Supremes are so much stiffer than my Xtra Light Barlows, but then you said you were riding the regular Barlows? Thanks, John -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Compass Barlow Pass Tires
Not to rob Bill of his possible tire purchase from you, but you may be running the Barlows too high. I weigh 200 and run my tires at 30-40 PSI. Smooth as butter. The suppler the casing the less the need for pressure and the greater the tire's ability to conform to the road, making it faster. With abandon, Patrick On Wednesday, April 29, 2015 at 2:30:39 PM UTC-6, Darin G. wrote: I ran both the BP and MS at 60 rear, 50 front. On my test ride the other day it was just 210 pounds of me, the bike, racks and an empty rando bag. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Compass Barlow Pass Tires
I ran both the BP and MS at 60 rear, 50 front. On my test ride the other day it was just 210 pounds of me, the bike, racks and an empty rando bag. On Wednesday, April 29, 2015 at 11:13:21 AM UTC-6, John wrote: Hi Daren, What size Marathon Supremes are you riding? And what pressures are you are you using in the Supremes and Barlows? Oh, and how much weight are you carrying on your Atlantis? I'm surprised by how they felt to you, my Supremes are so much stiffer than my Xtra Light Barlows, but then you said you were riding the regular Barlows? Thanks, John -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Compass Barlow Pass Tires
I have wondered about the added speed issue myself. I don't think I have become faster on any tire I have tried. Perhaps those benefits can only be realized by the ultra-fit. I am not ultra-fit. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Compass Barlow Pass Tires
hmm. i have barlow passes on my sam. i am not sure they make me a whole lot faster. i sure do think they are more comfortable to ride, and i feel like i can ride much longer, and the bike rolls better. i replaced some marathons as well. i think it's like running in hiking boots and then putting sneakers on. i may not be way faster in sneakers than i am in boots, but it sure is more comfortable to run. (just wanted to say this in case someone came across this thread and was somehow dissuaded from trying some new tires, the barlow passes are the single biggest improvement i have made to my bike since i actually bought a riv that fits) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Compass Barlow Pass Tires
I appreciate the heads up from both of you. I'm riding Challenge Strada Biancas on two bikes, and one of the bikes has room for barlows. Loving my $50 tires, which ride fast and plush at 60/50, and would hate to be disappointed by $80 tires. On Wednesday, April 29, 2015 at 12:04:08 AM UTC-5, Tim wrote: I swapped regular weight Stampede Pass for Extralight Barlows on my Hilsen. I found the Stampede Pass to be a huge improvement over my trusty Jack Browns (and I'm not typically one to notice much difference in such things) but, while the Barlows are certainly plush, I'm not so sure they're faster than the Stampedes. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Compass Barlow Pass Tires
I hope I didn't dissuade someone from trying something new. The reality is the compass tires were more comfortable than the marathons but didn't improve the performance enough in my calculus to be worth trading for the flat-resistance the marathons offer. This is a commuter bike and I don't think the Barlow Pass is a great choice for me for that application. Perhaps my expectations were too high after my experience with the Stampede Pass on my Rom. My buddy is building up a Hillborne with the Barlow Pass XL tires and I'm looking forward to taking that for a spin. Maybe I was just having a bad day or the tires couldn't overcome the inherent sluggishness of my heavy wheels, or maybe the Atlantis is simply a beast that will never float like my Rom no matter what tire I put on it. Many variables. Also, on a populaire/brevet I rode several weeks ago there was a guy on an old Raleigh with the EL Barlow Pass tires and he swore they were creme brûlée. He finished the 200k with the fastest time of the day. He would have been fast on a tricycle, but clearly the tire was working for him. On Wednesday, April 29, 2015 at 6:01:47 PM UTC-6, Zack wrote: hmm. i have barlow passes on my sam. i am not sure they make me a whole lot faster. i sure do think they are more comfortable to ride, and i feel like i can ride much longer, and the bike rolls better. i replaced some marathons as well. i think it's like running in hiking boots and then putting sneakers on. i may not be way faster in sneakers than i am in boots, but it sure is more comfortable to run. (just wanted to say this in case someone came across this thread and was somehow dissuaded from trying some new tires, the barlow passes are the single biggest improvement i have made to my bike since i actually bought a riv that fits) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Compass Barlow Pass tires
Take this with a grain of salt, since we are the makers of these tires... but we only sell what we use, and we use our bikes hard. We've ridden these tires (and the similar Grand Bois Extra Légers) on gravel for many hundreds of miles, and they work very well. I put them on my son's bike, and he also hasn't had problems on some pretty rough terrain. Check out http://janheine.wordpress.com/2014/02/12/a-winter-adventure/ and http://janheine.wordpress.com/2013/10/07/riding-to-forest-road-6700/ On mud and snow, you'd want knobbies, and on big, sharp rocks, you need stiffer sidewalls that don't cut so easily, but everywhere else, I have no qualms riding these. The one place they don't do well is highway shoulders with all the steel wires that accumulate there... Best, Jan Heine Compass Bicycles Ltd. www.compasscycle.com Follow our blog at http://janheine.wordpress.com/ On Saturday, May 10, 2014 3:11:27 PM UTC-7, Deacon Patrick wrote: I am debating getting a pair of the Barlow Pass tires for my long meandoneering rides. What has folks' experience been with them on dirt roads with loose gravel/sand? Also could someone compare and contrast the ultralight casing with the standard casing? With abandon, Patrick -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Compass Barlow Pass tires
Re: stiff wires on highway shoulders. I have one bike set up tubeless (2.2 120 tpi), and one with Tire Savers (C-lines), and my number of flats went to zero from many. The one flat I've gotten in the last several months is from when I changed gears mid-ride on my fixed gear, and didn't readjust the tire saver to match the new axle position. It didn't ride on the tire, and the next day I found a flat tire and a little wire. Do you find tire savers help protect against wire flats on the Barlow Pass tires? Philip www.biketinker.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Compass Barlow Pass tires
On Sunday, May 11, 2014 10:20:22 AM UTC-7, Philip Williamson wrote: Do you find tire savers help protect against wire flats on the Barlow Pass tires? We get so few flats that we don't bother with tire wipers (aka tire savers) any longer on wide tires... However, there is no reason why they shouldn't help. Jan Heine www.compasscycle.com Follow our blog at http://janheine.wordpress.com/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Compass Barlow Pass tires
On Friday, May 9, 2014 9:50:22 PM UTC-4, EricP wrote: A pair of these tires have found their way onto my Sam Hillborne. Realize they will stretch some, but at first glance, they looked a lot skinnier than the Baby Big Bens that were on the bike. Due to recent bad weather, only was able to get about 9 miles in on the tires today. My first impressions are - WOW. I like. Seemed to me the ride went faster than usual. My time was definitely quicker than my average this year. Thre ride is also very smooth. Am very much a convert to these tires. Yes, some of this is probably due to wanting the tires to work well. Still and all, am hoping to keep these on the bike this year and just enjoy the ride. Picture of bike as currently set up - https://www.flickr.com/photos/14126468@N05/14168168173/ Eric Platt St. Paul, MN -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Compass Barlow Pass tires
After 250 miles, my pair of Barlow Pass tires measure 37.6mm; they should stretch a bit for you with use. rod On Saturday, May 10, 2014 3:31:02 PM UTC-4, Rod Holland wrote: On Friday, May 9, 2014 9:50:22 PM UTC-4, EricP wrote: A pair of these tires have found their way onto my Sam Hillborne. Realize they will stretch some, but at first glance, they looked a lot skinnier than the Baby Big Bens that were on the bike. Due to recent bad weather, only was able to get about 9 miles in on the tires today. My first impressions are - WOW. I like. Seemed to me the ride went faster than usual. My time was definitely quicker than my average this year. Thre ride is also very smooth. Am very much a convert to these tires. Yes, some of this is probably due to wanting the tires to work well. Still and all, am hoping to keep these on the bike this year and just enjoy the ride. Picture of bike as currently set up - https://www.flickr.com/photos/14126468@N05/14168168173/ Eric Platt St. Paul, MN -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Compass Barlow Pass tires
I am debating getting a pair of the Barlow Pass tires for my long meandoneering rides. What has folks' experience been with them on dirt roads with loose gravel/sand? Also could someone compare and contrast the ultralight casing with the standard casing? With abandon, Patrick -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
