[RBW] Re: Cork, Tape, and Shellac
I've only talked to Josh Muir of Frances for a few minutes a couple of times, but I really respect him, and his bikes hit the spot. This may strike other people differently than it does me, but I love that his bikes have had the only Nashbar brakes I've ever seen at a bike show. They also looked, and I believe it may be true, that they were borrowed back from owners who actually rode them. If something horrible happened and I had to replace my bikes (Quickbeam, Ross low trail touring bike and Bontrager hardtail) with a single bike (and magically had the money), it would be with a Frances very similar to Blind Robert's (without the jacked up fender). Or a Matt Chester. Without the magic money, it would probably be a Sam Hillborne. Failing that, I'd just walk... Philip On May 19, 4:50 pm, Blindrobert roberto.cipri...@gmail.com wrote: Of all my custom bikes, it's my favorite! And it get's the most comment/stares of any bike I own except, perhaps my cargo bike, which is like being in a parade every time I ride it. http://www.bikecult.com/works/archive/09bicycles/bolognacargoRC2.html The interaction with Josh (at Frances) is very straightforward and I think he's a really conscientious builder and decent man, though newer than some of the big names out there in the world of custom bikes. I have no complaints about the workmanship at all, and he was on schedule for the delivery of the bike (trust me, that's rare in the world of custom bikes). My expectations were met, there were a few little things that weren't exactly like I wanted - for instance the old style rubber slap guard I asked for was an invented system instead of the (formerly) standard pin for a pre-made rubber band. I have to make a slap guard out of a strip of inner tube or other rubber when I need one - it's not hard, just not what I expected and he wasn't familiar with the detail for the other system. No major complaints at all, and like I said, it's my favorite bike. My advice to anyone getting a custom frame is to think hard about what you want, don't sign off on production until you feel good about every detail, including the braze ons...then DON'T CHANGE ANYTHING after the order is signed off. It just leads to confusion and second guessing yourself...and when you start changing things, it gets expensive and mistakes get made. Roberto On May 19, 5:44 pm, Michael_S mikeybi...@rocketmail.com wrote: just saw this post. I have been looking at the Frances Tourist Diffusible model. The one bike I would like to have is a travel bike and the Ritchey Break away system seems very innocuous compared to the more obvious SS couplers. Are you pleased with the workmanship? did the builder meet your expectations? His bikes all look very well thought out and constructed. ~Mike~ On May 17, 10:02 am, Frederick, Steve frede...@mail.lib.msu.edu wrote: Blindrobert wrote, in part: ...the fender was not effective once I got up over 14mph or so I similarly cropped the rear fender on my Rawland Olaf singlespeed/fixie and found it similarly ineffective. Since I was using SKS fenders, I just used the quick release attachments that comes with SKS front fenders on the rear too and that works well enough for wheel removal... Steve -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Cork, Tape, and Shellac
Another thing that he does which I think is really telling about the kind of person he is: When your bike is complete he ships it to you and asks for the remainder of the payment - on the honor system. He says he has only been burned once with a non-paying customer. That's the kind of every-day cool that makes me smile, like Nashbar brakes at NHBS. On May 20, 2:59 am, Philip Williamson philip.william...@gmail.com wrote: I've only talked to Josh Muir of Frances for a few minutes a couple of times, but I really respect him, and his bikes hit the spot. This may strike other people differently than it does me, but I love that his bikes have had the only Nashbar brakes I've ever seen at a bike show. They also looked, and I believe it may be true, that they were borrowed back from owners who actually rode them. If something horrible happened and I had to replace my bikes (Quickbeam, Ross low trail touring bike and Bontrager hardtail) with a single bike (and magically had the money), it would be with a Frances very similar to Blind Robert's (without the jacked up fender). Or a Matt Chester. Without the magic money, it would probably be a Sam Hillborne. Failing that, I'd just walk... Philip On May 19, 4:50 pm, Blindrobert roberto.cipri...@gmail.com wrote: Of all my custom bikes, it's my favorite! And it get's the most comment/stares of any bike I own except, perhaps my cargo bike, which is like being in a parade every time I ride it. http://www.bikecult.com/works/archive/09bicycles/bolognacargoRC2.html The interaction with Josh (at Frances) is very straightforward and I think he's a really conscientious builder and decent man, though newer than some of the big names out there in the world of custom bikes. I have no complaints about the workmanship at all, and he was on schedule for the delivery of the bike (trust me, that's rare in the world of custom bikes). My expectations were met, there were a few little things that weren't exactly like I wanted - for instance the old style rubber slap guard I asked for was an invented system instead of the (formerly) standard pin for a pre-made rubber band. I have to make a slap guard out of a strip of inner tube or other rubber when I need one - it's not hard, just not what I expected and he wasn't familiar with the detail for the other system. No major complaints at all, and like I said, it's my favorite bike. My advice to anyone getting a custom frame is to think hard about what you want, don't sign off on production until you feel good about every detail, including the braze ons...then DON'T CHANGE ANYTHING after the order is signed off. It just leads to confusion and second guessing yourself...and when you start changing things, it gets expensive and mistakes get made. Roberto On May 19, 5:44 pm, Michael_S mikeybi...@rocketmail.com wrote: just saw this post. I have been looking at the Frances Tourist Diffusible model. The one bike I would like to have is a travel bike and the Ritchey Break away system seems very innocuous compared to the more obvious SS couplers. Are you pleased with the workmanship? did the builder meet your expectations? His bikes all look very well thought out and constructed. ~Mike~ On May 17, 10:02 am, Frederick, Steve frede...@mail.lib.msu.edu wrote: Blindrobert wrote, in part: ...the fender was not effective once I got up over 14mph or so I similarly cropped the rear fender on my Rawland Olaf singlespeed/fixie and found it similarly ineffective. Since I was using SKS fenders, I just used the quick release attachments that comes with SKS front fenders on the rear too and that works well enough for wheel removal... Steve -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message
[RBW] Re: Cork, Tape, and Shellac
just saw this post. I have been looking at the Frances Tourist Diffusible model. The one bike I would like to have is a travel bike and the Ritchey Break away system seems very innocuous compared to the more obvious SS couplers. Are you pleased with the workmanship? did the builder meet your expectations? His bikes all look very well thought out and constructed. ~Mike~ On May 17, 10:02 am, Frederick, Steve frede...@mail.lib.msu.edu wrote: Blindrobert wrote, in part: ...the fender was not effective once I got up over 14mph or so I similarly cropped the rear fender on my Rawland Olaf singlespeed/fixie and found it similarly ineffective. Since I was using SKS fenders, I just used the quick release attachments that comes with SKS front fenders on the rear too and that works well enough for wheel removal... Steve -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Cork, Tape, and Shellac
Of all my custom bikes, it's my favorite! And it get's the most comment/stares of any bike I own except, perhaps my cargo bike, which is like being in a parade every time I ride it. http://www.bikecult.com/works/archive/09bicycles/bolognacargoRC2.html The interaction with Josh (at Frances) is very straightforward and I think he's a really conscientious builder and decent man, though newer than some of the big names out there in the world of custom bikes. I have no complaints about the workmanship at all, and he was on schedule for the delivery of the bike (trust me, that's rare in the world of custom bikes). My expectations were met, there were a few little things that weren't exactly like I wanted - for instance the old style rubber slap guard I asked for was an invented system instead of the (formerly) standard pin for a pre-made rubber band. I have to make a slap guard out of a strip of inner tube or other rubber when I need one - it's not hard, just not what I expected and he wasn't familiar with the detail for the other system. No major complaints at all, and like I said, it's my favorite bike. My advice to anyone getting a custom frame is to think hard about what you want, don't sign off on production until you feel good about every detail, including the braze ons...then DON'T CHANGE ANYTHING after the order is signed off. It just leads to confusion and second guessing yourself...and when you start changing things, it gets expensive and mistakes get made. Roberto On May 19, 5:44 pm, Michael_S mikeybi...@rocketmail.com wrote: just saw this post. I have been looking at the Frances Tourist Diffusible model. The one bike I would like to have is a travel bike and the Ritchey Break away system seems very innocuous compared to the more obvious SS couplers. Are you pleased with the workmanship? did the builder meet your expectations? His bikes all look very well thought out and constructed. ~Mike~ On May 17, 10:02 am, Frederick, Steve frede...@mail.lib.msu.edu wrote: Blindrobert wrote, in part: ...the fender was not effective once I got up over 14mph or so I similarly cropped the rear fender on my Rawland Olaf singlespeed/fixie and found it similarly ineffective. Since I was using SKS fenders, I just used the quick release attachments that comes with SKS front fenders on the rear too and that works well enough for wheel removal... Steve -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Cork, Tape, and Shellac
Yes I agree, my first custom (now sold) was a learning experience. Got everything right but rear seat stay length. My 2nd is in the garage being built. I really like the Diffusible Tourist Joshua built. I would like to get one maybe this fall. Here is a pic from his Flickr site http://www.flickr.com/photos/jmuirfromsc/3996701853/ ~Mike~ On May 19, 4:50 pm, Blindrobert roberto.cipri...@gmail.com wrote: Of all my custom bikes, it's my favorite! And it get's the most comment/stares of any bike I own except, perhaps my cargo bike, which is like being in a parade every time I ride it. http://www.bikecult.com/works/archive/09bicycles/bolognacargoRC2.html The interaction with Josh (at Frances) is very straightforward and I think he's a really conscientious builder and decent man, though newer than some of the big names out there in the world of custom bikes. I have no complaints about the workmanship at all, and he was on schedule for the delivery of the bike (trust me, that's rare in the world of custom bikes). My expectations were met, there were a few little things that weren't exactly like I wanted - for instance the old style rubber slap guard I asked for was an invented system instead of the (formerly) standard pin for a pre-made rubber band. I have to make a slap guard out of a strip of inner tube or other rubber when I need one - it's not hard, just not what I expected and he wasn't familiar with the detail for the other system. No major complaints at all, and like I said, it's my favorite bike. My advice to anyone getting a custom frame is to think hard about what you want, don't sign off on production until you feel good about every detail, including the braze ons...then DON'T CHANGE ANYTHING after the order is signed off. It just leads to confusion and second guessing yourself...and when you start changing things, it gets expensive and mistakes get made. Roberto On May 19, 5:44 pm, Michael_S mikeybi...@rocketmail.com wrote: just saw this post. I have been looking at the Frances Tourist Diffusible model. The one bike I would like to have is a travel bike and the Ritchey Break away system seems very innocuous compared to the more obvious SS couplers. Are you pleased with the workmanship? did the builder meet your expectations? His bikes all look very well thought out and constructed. ~Mike~ On May 17, 10:02 am, Frederick, Steve frede...@mail.lib.msu.edu wrote: Blindrobert wrote, in part: ...the fender was not effective once I got up over 14mph or so I similarly cropped the rear fender on my Rawland Olaf singlespeed/fixie and found it similarly ineffective. Since I was using SKS fenders, I just used the quick release attachments that comes with SKS front fenders on the rear too and that works well enough for wheel removal... Steve -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Cork, Tape, and Shellac
I am curious...what do you mean, 'it rides big'? And, with the bag sitting up high like that, what do you do for lights? Finally. what is the 'feel' of the shellacked tape? On May 16, 5:25 am, Blindrobert roberto.cipri...@gmail.com wrote: I just wanted to say that I tried this and I am very pleased with the results, after a year of use. I followed the instructions on the Riv site and it worked out perfectly. I have to say that it looks better after time than any cork or synthetic tape I have used. The bike is Frances Cycles custom fixtonneur that I had made, sizing is in the Riv/Grant philosophy (it rides big and I like it that way) - this is my city bike/commuter now. I love it. http://www.flickr.com/photos/blindrobert/3729507832/sizes/l/http://www.flickr.com/photos/blindrobert/3729507100/sizes/l/http://www.flickr.com/photos/blindrobert/3728706127/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Cork, Tape, and Shellac
By rides big I just mean that it is sized more traditionally with just a little seatpost showing and handlebars close to level with the saddle. On a modern racing frame, I would ride a 60cm bike and in fact the bikes I use at the velodrome are that size; this bike has a 63cm seat tube. For lights, I usually just put my petzl headlamp around the bag and turn it on. I have lots of bikes, and I ride them all, so moveable lights are more useful to me than fixed lights. Though, for touring, I use a dynamo front hub and wired light. I mostly use this bike for commuting and city riding - I do sometimes ride up on the curves and it is comfortable for short distances. I always wear padded gloves, so I don't need much cushioning beyond that. The shellaced cloth tape is very grippy, even when it's wet. The cork grips are comfortable, I suspect they would be even more comfortable if I shortened my stem and sat a little more upright. I tend to ride a bit aggressively in traffic and that usually means leaning forward and pushing a pretty good clip. Roberto On May 16, 1:46 pm, CR Masterson crmaster...@gmail.com wrote: I am curious...what do you mean, 'it rides big'? And, with the bag sitting up high like that, what do you do for lights? Finally. what is the 'feel' of the shellacked tape? On May 16, 5:25 am, Blindrobert roberto.cipri...@gmail.com wrote: I just wanted to say that I tried this and I am very pleased with the results, after a year of use. I followed the instructions on the Riv site and it worked out perfectly. I have to say that it looks better after time than any cork or synthetic tape I have used. The bike is Frances Cycles custom fixtonneur that I had made, sizing is in the Riv/Grant philosophy (it rides big and I like it that way) - this is my city bike/commuter now. I love it. http://www.flickr.com/photos/blindrobert/3729507832/sizes/l/http://ww... -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
RE: [RBW] Re: Cork, Tape, and Shellac
Blindrobert wrote, in part: ...the fender was not effective once I got up over 14mph or so I similarly cropped the rear fender on my Rawland Olaf singlespeed/fixie and found it similarly ineffective. Since I was using SKS fenders, I just used the quick release attachments that comes with SKS front fenders on the rear too and that works well enough for wheel removal... Steve -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Cork, Tape, and Shellac
Very Sharp looking ride. My heart flutters but my knees shudder ;-) Ryan my knees demand gears Surface On May 16, 7:15 am, bpus...@aol.com wrote: I really like what you've done with the rear fender. Think I'll do it to the Quickbeam since I'm really not concerned about people behind me - just concerned about keeping the bike clean (it's not that I'm a bad person, I just don't use the 'beamer for group rides). I'm assuming it's effective? Bill Louisville, Ky In a message dated 5/16/2010 10:07:15 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, bertin...@gmail.com writes: On Sun, May 16, 2010 at 6:25 AM, Blindrobert _roberto.cipri...@gmail.com_ (mailto:roberto.cipri...@gmail.com) wrote: I just wanted to say that I tried this and I am very pleased with the results, after a year of use. I followed the instructions on the Riv site and it worked out perfectly. I have to say that it looks better after time than any cork or synthetic tape I have used. The bike is Frances Cycles custom fixtonneur that I had made, sizing is in the Riv/Grant philosophy (it rides big and I like it that way) - this is my city bike/commuter now. I love it. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Cork, Tape, and Shellac
Patrick, I will have to dig up the drawing for the ST angle - I am not sure off the top of my head. I think most of the ugly threadless stem/headset setups are because so many of the stems come in ugly finishes. I think matte black looks (generally) terrible on bikes - especially in the areas that I expect to see polished chrome/stainless/alloy. MORE POLISHED THREADLESS STEMS, PLEASE!!! The Brooks is a little forward on its rails, it's just what ended up being comfortable - this is the first bike I have ever had moustache bars on, so it was a bit of a guess on stem length, if I ever bother to switch it out for a shorter one, I will slide the saddle back - for now it's comfortable. The curved stays are just something he (josh muir at frances cycles) does on a lot of his bikes - I think it's just an aesthetic move. I like them, but I doubt they do anything significant to road shock; the fat-ish tires this bike was designed for are much more effective than any relieved stay will ever be! Bill - the fender was not effective once I got up over 14mph or so - I recently changed it out to a full size satin aluminum VO fender. I may crop it again, because I like the look - but it needs to be a good 6 or so longer than the fender in the picture. If I had it to do over again, I would probably consider horizontal dropouts so that removing a wheel for a tire change wasn't so hard. That said, I haven't had a flat yet on this bike. The Rivendell Jack Brown tires are awesome in that regard - ditto for the ruffy tuffy tires which I have used on a few long tours and never had a flat! Ryan - I have been riding fixed gear bikes for 14 years and my knees have never complained (knock on wood), even my days of brakeless riding/skidding in NYC. Thanks for all the kind words, everyone! Roberto On May 16, 4:14 pm, RoadieRyan rya...@hotmail.com wrote: Very Sharp looking ride. My heart flutters but my knees shudder ;-) Ryan my knees demand gears Surface On May 16, 7:15 am, bpus...@aol.com wrote: I really like what you've done with the rear fender. Think I'll do it to the Quickbeam since I'm really not concerned about people behind me - just concerned about keeping the bike clean (it's not that I'm a bad person, I just don't use the 'beamer for group rides). I'm assuming it's effective? Bill Louisville, Ky In a message dated 5/16/2010 10:07:15 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, bertin...@gmail.com writes: On Sun, May 16, 2010 at 6:25 AM, Blindrobert _roberto.cipri...@gmail.com_ (mailto:roberto.cipri...@gmail.com) wrote: I just wanted to say that I tried this and I am very pleased with the results, after a year of use. I followed the instructions on the Riv site and it worked out perfectly. I have to say that it looks better after time than any cork or synthetic tape I have used. The bike is Frances Cycles custom fixtonneur that I had made, sizing is in the Riv/Grant philosophy (it rides big and I like it that way) - this is my city bike/commuter now. I love it. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Cork, Tape, and Shellac
Very loverly bicycle! I think it is very pretty and also, very ride-able. -Scott On May 16, 5:25 am, Blindrobert roberto.cipri...@gmail.com wrote: I just wanted to say that I tried this and I am very pleased with the results, after a year of use. I followed the instructions on the Riv site and it worked out perfectly. I have to say that it looks better after time than any cork or synthetic tape I have used. The bike is Frances Cycles custom fixtonneur that I had made, sizing is in the Riv/Grant philosophy (it rides big and I like it that way) - this is my city bike/commuter now. I love it. http://www.flickr.com/photos/blindrobert/3729507832/sizes/l/http://www.flickr.com/photos/blindrobert/3729507100/sizes/l/http://www.flickr.com/photos/blindrobert/3728706127/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Cork, Tape, and Shellac
Very nice. How do you like the cork grips with your mustaches? Do you ride much up in the curved part and, if so, is the cork still comfortable? Liesl On May 16, 7:25 am, Blindrobert roberto.cipri...@gmail.com wrote: I just wanted to say that I tried this and I am very pleased with the results, after a year of use. I followed the instructions on the Riv site and it worked out perfectly. I have to say that it looks better after time than any cork or synthetic tape I have used. The bike is Frances Cycles custom fixtonneur that I had made, sizing is in the Riv/Grant philosophy (it rides big and I like it that way) - this is my city bike/commuter now. I love it. http://www.flickr.com/photos/blindrobert/3729507832/sizes/l/http://www.flickr.com/photos/blindrobert/3729507100/sizes/l/http://www.flickr.com/photos/blindrobert/3728706127/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
