Re: [RBW] Re: Crane bell metals and quick reviews. Forget frame metals discussion. Lets talk bells!
On Sunday, July 27, 2014 4:07:27 PM UTC-4, Peter M wrote: Ah, I see. I am a semantics person too so I appreciate the clarification. On Jul 27, 2014 4:06 PM, Steve Palincsar pali...@his.com javascript: wrote: On 07/27/2014 04:01 PM, Goshen Peter wrote: So what does brass do, is just called patina? corrosion On Jul 27, 2014 4:01 PM, Steve Palincsar pali...@his.com javascript: wrote: On 07/27/2014 02:17 PM, Goshen Peter wrote: Beautiful but how it says they don't rust, one of the nice parts of a brass bell is watching it age and oxidize, and the sound is so unique. Not to be pedantic or anything (nobody would ever be pedantic on this list) but since rust is iron oxide, brass does not rust. The desired word here is 'tarnish'. In this case, dealing with brass, it is an oxidation process. As Steve pointed out, rusting is the oxidation of iron; tarnishing is the oxidation of copper or brass. (Though to be precise, a tarnish can form with other than 'oxidation'; if instead of oxygen, it was sulfur dioxide, or for silver, hydrogen sulfide... well, there's the whole reducing environment versus oxidizing environment... say, if you have available iron in an an oxidizing environment, yes, you can have hematite or magnetite forming (Fe2O3 or Fe3O4), but if it's a reducing environment, you end up with pyrites (FeS2, etc.) instead. One difference: a tarnish is happening on the surface, and can form a 'protective' layer for the underlying metal. A rust, like a normal 'red' rust, can continue to see ongoing oxidation of iron. (However, it is possible to get a 'black rust' to act as a tarnish, and keep the underlying iron from rusting. ) -L (a geologist, trying to remember his chemistry) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Crane bell metals and quick reviews. Forget frame metals discussion. Lets talk bells!
The influence of the bell . . . on bike or off :) ! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O_MphtzCOEc -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Crane bell metals and quick reviews. Forget frame metals discussion. Lets talk bells!
It doesn't win any style points, but my favorite bell is this one: http://www.mirrycle.com/road_bell.php Because dinging and slowing down tend to coincide. But alas, they don't work with my brake levers =(. William On Thursday, July 31, 2014 7:12:47 AM UTC-7, Garth wrote: The influence of the bell . . . on bike or off :) ! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O_MphtzCOEc -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
RE: [RBW] Re: Crane bell metals and quick reviews. Forget frame metals discussion. Lets talk bells!
Me, too. More bike-bell!! -Original Message- From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [mailto:rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Montclair BobbyB Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2014 2:41 PM To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: [RBW] Re: Crane bell metals and quick reviews. Forget frame metals discussion. Lets talk bells! Thanks, these are exceedingly cool in form and function. Simply could not resist ordering one. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- This email (and any attachments thereto) is intended only for use by the addressee(s) named herein and may contain legally privileged and/or confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient of this email, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this email (and any attachments thereto) is strictly prohibited. If you receive this email in error please immediately notify me at (212) 735-3000 and permanently delete the original email (and any copy of any email) and any printout thereof. Further information about the firm, a list of the Partners and their professional qualifications will be provided upon request. == -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Crane bell metals and quick reviews. Forget frame metals discussion. Lets talk bells!
My LBS wouldn't sell me a Crane when I picked up my Betty Foy, saying the Crane mount wouldn't fit the Soma Oxford handlebars. So I ended up with a Velo Orange Brass Striker Bell. I haven't compared it to the Crane, but MAN, does this thing have an incredibly long sustained tone. It's so long that if I ring it to get the attention of a wandering pedestrian, I put my hand over it a second or two after striking as not to appear rude! I do love the way it sounds though. However, my absolute favourite bike bell is the Pashley Princess ding-dong bell: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LoFQKEyFFhY On Saturday, July 26, 2014 9:34:32 PM UTC-7, lungimsam wrote: So I was in my LBS today, swapping some tubes for my wife's 700c, Shraeder Raleigh. I poked around and saw they had Crane Hammer Strike Suzu bells in stock : copper, brass, aluminum. I have been wanting a silver one to match my silver components on my Rivbikes. Here is what I discovered. *The brass goes :* blnnng(sssiaaarrrnnnggg) (rolling overtones in parenths) Crystal clear sonorous sound. Complex overtones. Low note, trolley sounding bell. I love the sound. The brass is beautiful and a rich looking color. *The Copper goes:* Dng. Not much in the way of overtones. Fundamental tone. Crystal clear and also nice. Higher tone if I remember than the brass. But the color is dull and not as pretty as pictured on websites. *The aluminium goes :* Plunk. Dull, muffled tone, like someone stuffed it with felt or something. I even looked inside to see if anything was dampening the sound. All three in stock were devoid of packaging material and were plunky toned. No packing in the dome. The silver color is dull and flat. So I guess I like the brass best. It sounds best to my ears, and is cool when it ages and gets all patina-ed up. I have one from RBW already and hope to get another in the next order. What would really be great is a *real* 1 headset spacer hammer bell. *Which of the crane suzu hammer striker bell metals do you like best?* -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Crane bell metals and quick reviews. Forget frame metals discussion. Lets talk bells!
I love my Spurcycle bell -- it has a sharp (but not unpleasant) piercing ring that resonates for a decent amount of time (especially for its small size), and it really gets people's attention. Bob Ehrenbeck Garwood, NJ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Crane bell metals and quick reviews. Forget frame metals discussion. Lets talk bells!
Thanks, these are exceedingly cool in form and function. Simply could not resist ordering one. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Crane bell metals and quick reviews. Forget frame metals discussion. Lets talk bells!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3n2LeRyyUoM The tone is very similar to a Incredibell Brass Duet :) Very loud for such a small bell. The nice thing of these sort of bells is they are very compact. On Monday, July 28, 2014 5:12:17 PM UTC-4, Montclair BobbyB wrote: I agree... the Spurcycle stainless bell looks awesome... But how does it sound? BB -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
RE: [RBW] Re: Crane bell metals and quick reviews. Forget frame metals discussion. Lets talk bells!
Eunice: I had one, too – it’s just not loud enough for my taste (the Crane bells hit the sweet spot in that department), so I tool it off my Bombadil. But it sure was pretty while it was there. Tom From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [mailto:rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Eunice Chang Sent: Sunday, July 27, 2014 10:24 PM To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [RBW] Re: Crane bell metals and quick reviews. Forget frame metals discussion. Lets talk bells! First of all, thanks for the bell noise descriptions. That was very enlightening! Second- has anyone ever tried these bells? Pricey, but interesting design/material... http://sogrenibikes.com/index.php?main_page=product_infocPath=1products_id=2 -E. On Sun, Jul 27, 2014 at 7:13 PM, Montclair BobbyB montclairbob...@gmail.commailto:montclairbob...@gmail.com wrote: Thank you, Sir Patrick for the flattery... but it's simply the truth...there's just something about brass... -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.commailto:rbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.commailto:rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.commailto:rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.commailto:rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- This email (and any attachments thereto) is intended only for use by the addressee(s) named herein and may contain legally privileged and/or confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient of this email, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this email (and any attachments thereto) is strictly prohibited. If you receive this email in error please immediately notify me at (212) 735-3000 and permanently delete the original email (and any copy of any email) and any printout thereof. Further information about the firm, a list of the Partners and their professional qualifications will be provided upon request. == -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
RE: [RBW] Re: Crane bell metals and quick reviews. Forget frame metals discussion. Lets talk bells!
Sögreni stuff always looks to me to exist at the point where visual design outruns common sense. It's always pretty, but the prettiness has reduced the functionality. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Crane bell metals and quick reviews. Forget frame metals discussion. Lets talk bells!
Spurcycle makes the best bell I have found. It is really nice, however it does not have quite the classic look as a brass bell. It is stunning in it's perfection and tooling. I have one on my Atlantis and have ordered another for my mountain bike. Expensive for a bell, but worth it. Clay I have one on my city bike. Really like how well it matches the Nitto handlebar. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Crane bell metals and quick reviews. Forget frame metals discussion. Lets talk bells!
That logo is huge on there. Are you sure it doesn't say CHANEL? On Mon, Jul 28, 2014 at 4:49 AM, Andrew Marchant-Shapiro marchantshap...@gmail.com wrote: Sögreni stuff always looks to me to exist at the point where visual design outruns common sense. It's always pretty, but the prettiness has reduced the functionality. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- I want the kind of six pack you can't drink. -- Micah -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Crane bell metals and quick reviews. Forget frame metals discussion. Lets talk bells!
I agree... the Spurcycle stainless bell looks awesome... But how does it sound? BB -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Crane bell metals and quick reviews. Forget frame metals discussion. Lets talk bells!
A nice loud bing that carries a good distance. On Monday, July 28, 2014 4:12:17 PM UTC-5, Montclair BobbyB wrote: I agree... the Spurcycle stainless bell looks awesome... But how does it sound? BB -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Crane bell metals and quick reviews. Forget frame metals discussion. Lets talk bells!
I like the Karen bell best, both large and small sizes. The small size has a better mount. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v728/bulldog1935/Raleigh/700c/aP2050003.jpg In fact, I used the mount from the small bell to mount the large bell here. On Saturday, July 26, 2014 11:34:32 PM UTC-5, lungimsam wrote: So I was in my LBS today, swapping some tubes for my wife's 700c, Shraeder Raleigh. I poked around and saw they had Crane Hammer Strike Suzu bells in stock : copper, brass, aluminum. I have been wanting a silver one to match my silver components on my Rivbikes. Here is what I discovered. *The brass goes :* blnnng(sssiaaarrrnnnggg) (rolling overtones in parenths) Crystal clear sonorous sound. Complex overtones. Low note, trolley sounding bell. I love the sound. The brass is beautiful and a rich looking color. *The Copper goes:* Dng. Not much in the way of overtones. Fundamental tone. Crystal clear and also nice. Higher tone if I remember than the brass. But the color is dull and not as pretty as pictured on websites. *The aluminium goes :* Plunk. Dull, muffled tone, like someone stuffed it with felt or something. I even looked inside to see if anything was dampening the sound. All three in stock were devoid of packaging material and were plunky toned. No packing in the dome. The silver color is dull and flat. So I guess I like the brass best. It sounds best to my ears, and is cool when it ages and gets all patina-ed up. I have one from RBW already and hope to get another in the next order. What would really be great is a *real* 1 headset spacer hammer bell. *Which of the crane suzu hammer striker bell metals do you like best?* -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Crane bell metals and quick reviews. Forget frame metals discussion. Lets talk bells!
Spot-on with the descriptions. That sustained Dingg.. of the Crane brass bell is like the after-flavors of a good wine, the lingering taste of a perfectly-brewed cup of Columbian coffee, the follow-through of a beautiful golf swing or that precisely-placed Frisbee throw Funny, who could have ever imagined that a little bell could bring such richness to life... :) Peace BB On Sunday, July 27, 2014 8:20:27 AM UTC-4, Ron Mc wrote: I like the Karen bell best, both large and small sizes. The small size has a better mount. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v728/bulldog1935/Raleigh/700c/aP2050003.jpg In fact, I used the mount from the small bell to mount the large bell here. On Saturday, July 26, 2014 11:34:32 PM UTC-5, lungimsam wrote: So I was in my LBS today, swapping some tubes for my wife's 700c, Shraeder Raleigh. I poked around and saw they had Crane Hammer Strike Suzu bells in stock : copper, brass, aluminum. I have been wanting a silver one to match my silver components on my Rivbikes. Here is what I discovered. *The brass goes :* blnnng(sssiaaarrrnnnggg) (rolling overtones in parenths) Crystal clear sonorous sound. Complex overtones. Low note, trolley sounding bell. I love the sound. The brass is beautiful and a rich looking color. *The Copper goes:* Dng. Not much in the way of overtones. Fundamental tone. Crystal clear and also nice. Higher tone if I remember than the brass. But the color is dull and not as pretty as pictured on websites. *The aluminium goes :* Plunk. Dull, muffled tone, like someone stuffed it with felt or something. I even looked inside to see if anything was dampening the sound. All three in stock were devoid of packaging material and were plunky toned. No packing in the dome. The silver color is dull and flat. So I guess I like the brass best. It sounds best to my ears, and is cool when it ages and gets all patina-ed up. I have one from RBW already and hope to get another in the next order. What would really be great is a *real* 1 headset spacer hammer bell. *Which of the crane suzu hammer striker bell metals do you like best?* -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Crane bell metals and quick reviews. Forget frame metals discussion. Lets talk bells!
Buy your proper sized one-inch headset spacer bell mounts from Velo Orange LINK http://store.velo-orange.com/index.php/accessories/bells/spacer-bell-mount.html On Saturday, July 26, 2014 9:34:32 PM UTC-7, lungimsam wrote: So I was in my LBS today, swapping some tubes for my wife's 700c, Shraeder Raleigh. I poked around and saw they had Crane Hammer Strike Suzu bells in stock : copper, brass, aluminum. I have been wanting a silver one to match my silver components on my Rivbikes. Here is what I discovered. *The brass goes :* blnnng(sssiaaarrrnnnggg) (rolling overtones in parenths) Crystal clear sonorous sound. Complex overtones. Low note, trolley sounding bell. I love the sound. The brass is beautiful and a rich looking color. *The Copper goes:* Dng. Not much in the way of overtones. Fundamental tone. Crystal clear and also nice. Higher tone if I remember than the brass. But the color is dull and not as pretty as pictured on websites. *The aluminium goes :* Plunk. Dull, muffled tone, like someone stuffed it with felt or something. I even looked inside to see if anything was dampening the sound. All three in stock were devoid of packaging material and were plunky toned. No packing in the dome. The silver color is dull and flat. So I guess I like the brass best. It sounds best to my ears, and is cool when it ages and gets all patina-ed up. I have one from RBW already and hope to get another in the next order. What would really be great is a *real* 1 headset spacer hammer bell. *Which of the crane suzu hammer striker bell metals do you like best?* -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Crane bell metals and quick reviews. Forget frame metals discussion. Lets talk bells!
Spurcycle makes the best bell I have found. It is really nice, however it does not have quite the classic look as a brass bell. It is stunning in it's perfection and tooling. I have one on my Atlantis and have ordered another for my mountain bike. Expensive for a bell, but worth it. Clay On Saturday, July 26, 2014 9:34:32 PM UTC-7, lungimsam wrote: So I was in my LBS today, swapping some tubes for my wife's 700c, Shraeder Raleigh. I poked around and saw they had Crane Hammer Strike Suzu bells in stock : copper, brass, aluminum. I have been wanting a silver one to match my silver components on my Rivbikes. Here is what I discovered. *The brass goes :* blnnng(sssiaaarrrnnnggg) (rolling overtones in parenths) Crystal clear sonorous sound. Complex overtones. Low note, trolley sounding bell. I love the sound. The brass is beautiful and a rich looking color. *The Copper goes:* Dng. Not much in the way of overtones. Fundamental tone. Crystal clear and also nice. Higher tone if I remember than the brass. But the color is dull and not as pretty as pictured on websites. *The aluminium goes :* Plunk. Dull, muffled tone, like someone stuffed it with felt or something. I even looked inside to see if anything was dampening the sound. All three in stock were devoid of packaging material and were plunky toned. No packing in the dome. The silver color is dull and flat. So I guess I like the brass best. It sounds best to my ears, and is cool when it ages and gets all patina-ed up. I have one from RBW already and hope to get another in the next order. What would really be great is a *real* 1 headset spacer hammer bell. *Which of the crane suzu hammer striker bell metals do you like best?* -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Crane bell metals and quick reviews. Forget frame metals discussion. Lets talk bells!
Curious enough to look it up. Real nice, but yeah, kinda' spendy. http://spurcycle.com/bell.html Cheers, David it isn't a contest. Just enjoy the ride. - Seth Vidal On Sun, Jul 27, 2014 at 10:31 AM, 'Clayton' via RBW Owners Bunch rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com wrote: Spurcycle makes the best bell I have found. It is really nice, however it does not have quite the classic look as a brass bell. It is stunning in it's perfection and tooling. I have one on my Atlantis and have ordered another for my mountain bike. Expensive for a bell, but worth it. Clay On Saturday, July 26, 2014 9:34:32 PM UTC-7, lungimsam wrote: So I was in my LBS today, swapping some tubes for my wife's 700c, Shraeder Raleigh. I poked around and saw they had Crane Hammer Strike Suzu bells in stock : copper, brass, aluminum. I have been wanting a silver one to match my silver components on my Rivbikes. Here is what I discovered. *The brass goes :* blnnng(sssiaaarrrnnnggg) (rolling overtones in parenths) Crystal clear sonorous sound. Complex overtones. Low note, trolley sounding bell. I love the sound. The brass is beautiful and a rich looking color. *The Copper goes:* Dng. Not much in the way of overtones. Fundamental tone. Crystal clear and also nice. Higher tone if I remember than the brass. But the color is dull and not as pretty as pictured on websites. *The aluminium goes :* Plunk. Dull, muffled tone, like someone stuffed it with felt or something. I even looked inside to see if anything was dampening the sound. All three in stock were devoid of packaging material and were plunky toned. No packing in the dome. The silver color is dull and flat. So I guess I like the brass best. It sounds best to my ears, and is cool when it ages and gets all patina-ed up. I have one from RBW already and hope to get another in the next order. What would really be great is a *real* 1 headset spacer hammer bell. *Which of the crane suzu hammer striker bell metals do you like best?* -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Crane bell metals and quick reviews. Forget frame metals discussion. Lets talk bells!
Beautiful but how it says they don't rust, one of the nice parts of a brass bell is watching it age and oxidize, and the sound is so unique. On Jul 27, 2014 2:11 PM, cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.com wrote: Curious enough to look it up. Real nice, but yeah, kinda' spendy. http://spurcycle.com/bell.html Cheers, David it isn't a contest. Just enjoy the ride. - Seth Vidal On Sun, Jul 27, 2014 at 10:31 AM, 'Clayton' via RBW Owners Bunch rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com wrote: Spurcycle makes the best bell I have found. It is really nice, however it does not have quite the classic look as a brass bell. It is stunning in it's perfection and tooling. I have one on my Atlantis and have ordered another for my mountain bike. Expensive for a bell, but worth it. Clay On Saturday, July 26, 2014 9:34:32 PM UTC-7, lungimsam wrote: So I was in my LBS today, swapping some tubes for my wife's 700c, Shraeder Raleigh. I poked around and saw they had Crane Hammer Strike Suzu bells in stock : copper, brass, aluminum. I have been wanting a silver one to match my silver components on my Rivbikes. Here is what I discovered. *The brass goes :* blnnng(sssiaaarrrnnnggg) (rolling overtones in parenths) Crystal clear sonorous sound. Complex overtones. Low note, trolley sounding bell. I love the sound. The brass is beautiful and a rich looking color. *The Copper goes:* Dng. Not much in the way of overtones. Fundamental tone. Crystal clear and also nice. Higher tone if I remember than the brass. But the color is dull and not as pretty as pictured on websites. *The aluminium goes :* Plunk. Dull, muffled tone, like someone stuffed it with felt or something. I even looked inside to see if anything was dampening the sound. All three in stock were devoid of packaging material and were plunky toned. No packing in the dome. The silver color is dull and flat. So I guess I like the brass best. It sounds best to my ears, and is cool when it ages and gets all patina-ed up. I have one from RBW already and hope to get another in the next order. What would really be great is a *real* 1 headset spacer hammer bell. *Which of the crane suzu hammer striker bell metals do you like best?* -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Crane bell metals and quick reviews. Forget frame metals discussion. Lets talk bells!
Oh, *Bobby!* You're so *eloquent!* Those were indeed perfect similes! On Sun, Jul 27, 2014 at 8:21 AM, Montclair BobbyB montclairbob...@gmail.com wrote: Spot-on with the descriptions. That sustained Dingg.. of the Crane brass bell is like the after-flavors of a good wine, the lingering taste of a perfectly-brewed cup of Columbian coffee, the follow-through of a beautiful golf swing or that precisely-placed Frisbee throw Funny, who could have ever imagined that a little bell could bring such richness to life... :) Peace BB On S -- Resumes, LinkedIn profiles, and letters that get interviews. By-the-hour resume and LinkedIn coaching. Other professional writing services. http://www.resumespecialties.com/ Patrick Moore Albuquerque, Nouvelle Mexique, Etats Unis * * Where you come from is gone, where you thought you were going to never was there, and where you are is no good unless you can get away from it. Where is there a place for you to be? No place.* * Nothing outside you can give you any place, he said. You needn't to look at the sky because it's not going to open up and show no place behind it. You needn't to search for any hole in the ground to look through into somewhere else. You can't go neither forwards nor backwards into your daddy's time nor your children's if you have them. In yourself right now is all the place you've got. If there was any Fall, look there, if there was any Redemption, look there, and if you expect any Judgment, look there, because they all three will have to be in your time and your body and where in your time and your body can they be?* * Where in your time and your body has Jesus redeemed you? he cried. Show me where because I don't see the place. If there was a place where Jesus had redeemed you that would be the place for you to be, but which of you can find it?” -- *Flannery O'Connor,* Wise Blood * -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Crane bell metals and quick reviews. Forget frame metals discussion. Lets talk bells!
On 07/27/2014 02:17 PM, Goshen Peter wrote: Beautiful but how it says they don't rust, one of the nice parts of a brass bell is watching it age and oxidize, and the sound is so unique. Not to be pedantic or anything (nobody would ever be pedantic on this list) but since rust is iron oxide, brass does not rust. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Crane bell metals and quick reviews. Forget frame metals discussion. Lets talk bells!
So what does brass do, is just called patina? On Jul 27, 2014 4:01 PM, Steve Palincsar palin...@his.com wrote: On 07/27/2014 02:17 PM, Goshen Peter wrote: Beautiful but how it says they don't rust, one of the nice parts of a brass bell is watching it age and oxidize, and the sound is so unique. Not to be pedantic or anything (nobody would ever be pedantic on this list) but since rust is iron oxide, brass does not rust. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Crane bell metals and quick reviews. Forget frame metals discussion. Lets talk bells!
On 07/27/2014 04:01 PM, Goshen Peter wrote: So what does brass do, is just called patina? corrosion On Jul 27, 2014 4:01 PM, Steve Palincsar palin...@his.com mailto:palin...@his.com wrote: On 07/27/2014 02:17 PM, Goshen Peter wrote: Beautiful but how it says they don't rust, one of the nice parts of a brass bell is watching it age and oxidize, and the sound is so unique. Not to be pedantic or anything (nobody would ever be pedantic on this list) but since rust is iron oxide, brass does not rust. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Crane bell metals and quick reviews. Forget frame metals discussion. Lets talk bells!
Ah, I see. I am a semantics person too so I appreciate the clarification. On Jul 27, 2014 4:06 PM, Steve Palincsar palin...@his.com wrote: On 07/27/2014 04:01 PM, Goshen Peter wrote: So what does brass do, is just called patina? corrosion On Jul 27, 2014 4:01 PM, Steve Palincsar palin...@his.com wrote: On 07/27/2014 02:17 PM, Goshen Peter wrote: Beautiful but how it says they don't rust, one of the nice parts of a brass bell is watching it age and oxidize, and the sound is so unique. Not to be pedantic or anything (nobody would ever be pedantic on this list) but since rust is iron oxide, brass does not rust. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Crane bell metals and quick reviews. Forget frame metals discussion. Lets talk bells!
Oxidation? Cheers, David it isn't a contest. Just enjoy the ride. - Seth Vidal On Sun, Jul 27, 2014 at 1:07 PM, Goshen Peter uscpeter11...@gmail.com wrote: Ah, I see. I am a semantics person too so I appreciate the clarification. On Jul 27, 2014 4:06 PM, Steve Palincsar palin...@his.com wrote: On 07/27/2014 04:01 PM, Goshen Peter wrote: So what does brass do, is just called patina? corrosion On Jul 27, 2014 4:01 PM, Steve Palincsar palin...@his.com wrote: On 07/27/2014 02:17 PM, Goshen Peter wrote: Beautiful but how it says they don't rust, one of the nice parts of a brass bell is watching it age and oxidize, and the sound is so unique. Not to be pedantic or anything (nobody would ever be pedantic on this list) but since rust is iron oxide, brass does not rust. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Crane bell metals and quick reviews. Forget frame metals discussion. Lets talk bells!
We few, we happy few, we band of brothers — joined in the serious business of keeping our food http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Food, shelter, clothing and loved ones from combining with oxygen. Kurt Vonnegut, who perhaps considered bells in the category of loved ones On Sunday, July 27, 2014 1:28:06 PM UTC-7, cyclot...@gmail.com wrote: Oxidation? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Crane bell metals and quick reviews. Forget frame metals discussion. Lets talk bells!
brass grows a very nice patina in weathering exposure. You have to have salts and build up of sludge to make brass corrode, and then you can't even tell that it corroded because the normal mode is dealloying. This fishing reel is 130 years old - where it was corroding is where mildewed silk line was rotting on it. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v728/bulldog1935/ocean%20city/Mills/leonard041.jpg On Sunday, July 27, 2014 3:46:42 PM UTC-5, Bill Lindsay wrote: We few, we happy few, we band of brothers — joined in the serious business of keeping our food http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Food, shelter, clothing and loved ones from combining with oxygen. Kurt Vonnegut, who perhaps considered bells in the category of loved ones On Sunday, July 27, 2014 1:28:06 PM UTC-7, cyclot...@gmail.com wrote: Oxidation? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Crane bell metals and quick reviews. Forget frame metals discussion. Lets talk bells!
I'm much more of a Honka Hoota guy than a ding-a-ling type. http://youtu.be/urfTG1yFlYQ If you push hard they are loud but you can give it little punches to be more expressive, kind of like a train engineer does. I find it really gets attention and a lot of smiles. $7 at REI. And it doesn't rust or corrode. On Saturday, July 26, 2014 10:34:32 PM UTC-6, lungimsam wrote: So I was in my LBS today, swapping some tubes for my wife's 700c, Shraeder Raleigh. I poked around and saw they had Crane Hammer Strike Suzu bells in stock : copper, brass, aluminum. I have been wanting a silver one to match my silver components on my Rivbikes. Here is what I discovered. *The brass goes :* blnnng(sssiaaarrrnnnggg) (rolling overtones in parenths) Crystal clear sonorous sound. Complex overtones. Low note, trolley sounding bell. I love the sound. The brass is beautiful and a rich looking color. *The Copper goes:* Dng. Not much in the way of overtones. Fundamental tone. Crystal clear and also nice. Higher tone if I remember than the brass. But the color is dull and not as pretty as pictured on websites. *The aluminium goes :* Plunk. Dull, muffled tone, like someone stuffed it with felt or something. I even looked inside to see if anything was dampening the sound. All three in stock were devoid of packaging material and were plunky toned. No packing in the dome. The silver color is dull and flat. So I guess I like the brass best. It sounds best to my ears, and is cool when it ages and gets all patina-ed up. I have one from RBW already and hope to get another in the next order. What would really be great is a *real* 1 headset spacer hammer bell. *Which of the crane suzu hammer striker bell metals do you like best?* -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Crane bell metals and quick reviews. Forget frame metals discussion. Lets talk bells!
Thank you, Sir Patrick for the flattery... but it's simply the truth...there's just something about brass... -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Crane bell metals and quick reviews. Forget frame metals discussion. Lets talk bells!
First of all, thanks for the bell noise descriptions. That was very enlightening! Second- has anyone ever tried these bells? Pricey, but interesting design/material... http://sogrenibikes.com/index.php?main_page=product_infocPath=1products_id=2 -E. On Sun, Jul 27, 2014 at 7:13 PM, Montclair BobbyB montclairbob...@gmail.com wrote: Thank you, Sir Patrick for the flattery... but it's simply the truth...there's just something about brass... -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Crane bell metals and quick reviews. Forget frame metals discussion. Lets talk bells!
yes, my friend has the copper one on his Dahon to match copper fenders and extensive copper plate trim. Barely audible - does not ring, kinda pings On Sunday, July 27, 2014 9:23:55 PM UTC-5, Eunice Chang wrote: First of all, thanks for the bell noise descriptions. That was very enlightening! Second- has anyone ever tried these bells? Pricey, but interesting design/material... http://sogrenibikes.com/index.php?main_page=product_infocPath=1products_id=2 -E. On Sun, Jul 27, 2014 at 7:13 PM, Montclair BobbyB montcla...@gmail.com javascript: wrote: Thank you, Sir Patrick for the flattery... but it's simply the truth...there's just something about brass... -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com javascript:. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com javascript:. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
