Re: [RBW] Re: Crazy Idea: Riv National Jamboree
To throw in my 2 cents, I will be in the Bay Area in early August for the California Central Coast 1200k Randonee and would be interested in a Riv rally if one was held while I was in the area. At any rate, I plan on a pilgrimage to Rivendell World HQ while I am there. Jim On Nov 18, 2013 4:10 AM, Philip Williamson philip.william...@gmail.com wrote: I live in the Bay Area. I will attend a Bay Area Riv Rally. I can ride my bike to China Camp. That said: A 20th Anniversary Rivendell Bicycles Freaky Jamboree doesn't belong anywhere but Mt. Diablo. Not a single Rivendell employee has made any comment on the proposed National Jamboree. Not a single Rivendell employee has made any comment on a Twentieth Anniversary Shindig. I think the Riv folk have something up their sleeveses. Television Psychic, Philip www.biketinker.com On Sunday, November 17, 2013 9:36:10 PM UTC-8, hsmitham wrote: I know. How about a loop up through Mendocino County through Anderson Valley, Philo and then down the coast back to the city. Best, ~Hugh On Sun, Nov 17, 2013 at 9:12 PM, dougP doug...@cox.net wrote: Sign me up, now! This has the makings of an event to base a tour around (hint-hint) for those who may be off for the summer or looking for a bike-worthy vacation. Start thinkin' dreamin'. dougP On Sunday, November 17, 2013 7:56:50 PM UTC-8, hsmitham wrote: What Ryan said, lets nail the weekend and location once and for all! It might be too much to ask the RBW folk to host as it seems they have their hands full with the BBH store front. We do need locals to take the lead , perhaps create another Group dedicated to the organization planning of the event. I don't feel like re-reading through six pages on this thread but I recall some of the BA locals mentioning that there are eating establishments close to the camp...just Google mapped C.C. man it's right on San Pablo Bay and food within I believe a flat 8 miles, and Mount Tam is right there. C'mon let's do this. Summer 2014 China Camp! Best, ~Hugh On Sun, Nov 17, 2013 at 7:41 PM, Abcyclehank hanki...@me.com wrote: I had proposed multiple rallies but was clearly shot down. Yet there can be only one National Jamboree so the logical spot in my opinion is Rivendell world headquarters and the surrounding area. It appeared to be leading in the poll system as well although again in my opinion it was setup in a flawed manner. Regardless someone with local ties (host) should select the official weekend, inquire if Grant and company wish to play any additional role, and create a committee to pull off this wonderful undertaking. As a Michigander who has been dreaming of a visit this will likely be the occasion that motivates me to act. Enough debate.time for one or more to take action. Ryan Midwest based Hankinson -- You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this topic, visit https://groups.google.com/d/to pic/rbw-owners-bunch/i87JbNYav-A/unsubscribe. To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this topic, visit https://groups.google.com/d/ topic/rbw-owners-bunch/i87JbNYav-A/unsubscribe. To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Crazy Idea: Riv National Jamboree
Jim T: I'm in for the September gathering; not too far away from Ioway. My on my Riv Road 650b and my gf on her new Soma San Marcos. West coasters: I'd love to make the SF Riv Jamboree, but I'm already committed to ride RAGBRAI July 20-26, so that date won't work for me. If the date changes, I'll definitely try to make it. Otherwise, have a great event! Tim in Cedar Rapids, IA, who rode about 15 miles in 40 degree slush yesterday, with a huge grin on his face the whole time. On Mon, Jan 13, 2014 at 9:39 AM, Jim Bronson jim.bron...@gmail.com wrote: To throw in my 2 cents, I will be in the Bay Area in early August for the California Central Coast 1200k Randonee and would be interested in a Riv rally if one was held while I was in the area. At any rate, I plan on a pilgrimage to Rivendell World HQ while I am there. Jim On Nov 18, 2013 4:10 AM, Philip Williamson philip.william...@gmail.com wrote: I live in the Bay Area. I will attend a Bay Area Riv Rally. I can ride my bike to China Camp. That said: A 20th Anniversary Rivendell Bicycles Freaky Jamboree doesn't belong anywhere but Mt. Diablo. Not a single Rivendell employee has made any comment on the proposed National Jamboree. Not a single Rivendell employee has made any comment on a Twentieth Anniversary Shindig. I think the Riv folk have something up their sleeveses. Television Psychic, Philip www.biketinker.com On Sunday, November 17, 2013 9:36:10 PM UTC-8, hsmitham wrote: I know. How about a loop up through Mendocino County through Anderson Valley, Philo and then down the coast back to the city. Best, ~Hugh On Sun, Nov 17, 2013 at 9:12 PM, dougP doug...@cox.net wrote: Sign me up, now! This has the makings of an event to base a tour around (hint-hint) for those who may be off for the summer or looking for a bike-worthy vacation. Start thinkin' dreamin'. dougP On Sunday, November 17, 2013 7:56:50 PM UTC-8, hsmitham wrote: What Ryan said, lets nail the weekend and location once and for all! It might be too much to ask the RBW folk to host as it seems they have their hands full with the BBH store front. We do need locals to take the lead , perhaps create another Group dedicated to the organization planning of the event. I don't feel like re-reading through six pages on this thread but I recall some of the BA locals mentioning that there are eating establishments close to the camp...just Google mapped C.C. man it's right on San Pablo Bay and food within I believe a flat 8 miles, and Mount Tam is right there. C'mon let's do this. Summer 2014 China Camp! Best, ~Hugh On Sun, Nov 17, 2013 at 7:41 PM, Abcyclehank hanki...@me.com wrote: I had proposed multiple rallies but was clearly shot down. Yet there can be only one National Jamboree so the logical spot in my opinion is Rivendell world headquarters and the surrounding area. It appeared to be leading in the poll system as well although again in my opinion it was setup in a flawed manner. Regardless someone with local ties (host) should select the official weekend, inquire if Grant and company wish to play any additional role, and create a committee to pull off this wonderful undertaking. As a Michigander who has been dreaming of a visit this will likely be the occasion that motivates me to act. Enough debate.time for one or more to take action. Ryan Midwest based Hankinson -- You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this topic, visit https://groups.google.com/d/to pic/rbw-owners-bunch/i87JbNYav-A/unsubscribe. To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this topic, visit https://groups.google.com/d/ topic/rbw-owners-bunch/i87JbNYav-A/unsubscribe. To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You
Re: [RBW] Re: Crazy Idea: Riv National Jamboree
That would be super. We can get a picture of both our 650B Roads together! On 1/13/2014 10:17 AM, Tim Gavin wrote: Jim T: I'm in for the September gathering; not too far away from Ioway. My on my Riv Road 650b -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Crazy Idea: Riv National Jamboree
Jim, Thanks for taking the bull by the horns and volunteering to organize an event in the MSP area I've never been to this part of America and would love to join in and especially meet other Riv folk . Since I'm a West Coaster and don't want to burn too many vacation days I'd most likely fly in. So I'm wondering is it feasible and not too presumptuous to ship one of my bikes to Hiawatha Cyclery ahead of time? Then fly in and make my way to your shop to pick it up. It would be really sweet if Hiawatha even had it put together for me. I'm sure there might be others with the same notion so probably a good idea to nail this part down. To keep the trip manageable I'll probably camp or if I find good/ reasonable (read that as inexpensive) accommodations like a hostel go that route. Really depends on how this all shapes up. If there's a good group camp area close to where all the events take place then that decision may take care of it self. I think it would be a good idea to start a group specific to this event so everyone involved will be up to date, just my two cents. Jim M, I also really appreciate you making the effort to plan a Riv rally in the epicenter of all things Rivy...Been looking at my calendar and since it's so early in the planning I'd like to propose the weekend before the 11th as I'll be travelling back down the coast from PDX and I could extend my time to coincide with the rally. If that's asking too much I'll understand and try to figure something else out. ~Hughwho wants to cram in as much Rivyness in 2014 as he can Smitham Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance, you must keep moving. -- Albert Einstein http://velocipedemusings.blogspot.com/ On Sat, Aug 3, 2013 at 5:51 PM, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery thill@gmail.com wrote: I volunteer to host, northern Wisconsin or perhaps my ancestral homeland of Upper Michigan. Dates are flexible, but I prefer late Sept for splendid Fall color. Lots of northwoods adventure. A real possibility of encountering wolves (they probably won't eat you). Probably more camping-centric than BB centric, and not much for yuppie cafes and quaint gift shops, but nothing is perfect for everybody. Of course, if it's just two or three days, we could rent cabins and do day trips. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this topic, visit https://groups.google.com/d/topic/rbw-owners-bunch/i87JbNYav-A/unsubscribe . To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Crazy Idea: Riv National Jamboree
dick DeWard and i are planning to come his son and family live in M/StP that will probably be one 68 atlantis and one 53 atlantis so taken together we shouldnt change the average height of the peloton at all -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Crazy Idea: Riv National Jamboree
Yes, anybody can ship a bike to Hiawatha Cyclery. Upon request, we will unpack and assemble and then later repackage and ship UPS (labor and ups charges apply). Ideally we'd receive the bike a week or so in advance so we have time. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Crazy Idea: Riv National Jamboree
It's on my calendar, I'm in. Marc On Saturday, January 11, 2014 4:57:23 PM UTC-5, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery wrote: I don't care if anybody calls it a national jamboree or whatever, but we have a critical mass of Riv types in the Twin Cities or within a day's drive. Add in Amtrak and a major airport served by bike-friendly transit, tons of bike shops, terrific bike infrastructure, flattish terrain, and plenty of lodging options, and we have a compelling case to have a country bike event here. I'm game for setting something up, though I'll probably need some locals to step in to help with leading rides, etc. Just to put a note of finality in it, I'm gonna say that we'll have an event the last weekend of September (26-28). If you come to the Twin Cities with a country bike at that time, I'll show you a good time. The itinerary is tentative, but let's plan on a reception Friday night followed by two days of riding the local area. There will be a camping option, which may be my backyard, but we'll see. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Crazy Idea: Riv National Jamboree
I'm so happy to hear from those of you who've already committed to this! I hope we can maintain and expand this enthusiasm over the next 8 months! I'm not sure what we have for BBs in the twin cities, but there are certainly plenty of lodging options. For those who'd like to camp, I will likely be able to offer my backyard or suggest some unofficial campgrounds. Perhaps other locals will be able to offer a backyard or a spare bedroom or couch? If you're going to make a hotel reservation and not have a car, check with me first to make sure your hotel is reasonably bike-convenient (either in a bike-friendly area or near light rail transit). For riding, I'm envisioning some mixed surface local explorations encompassing everything from our excellent urban bike infrastructure to minimally maintained dirt trails that most local cyclists don't know about. As always, you'll be better off with fat tires than with skinny tires. On Saturday, January 11, 2014 5:39:32 PM UTC-6, Michael Hechmer wrote: Count me in. With Saluki, 38 mm tires, and camera. Could camp but would prefer to be pampered at bbs. Michael On Saturday, January 11, 2014 4:57:23 PM UTC-5, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery wrote: I don't care if anybody calls it a national jamboree or whatever, but we have a critical mass of Riv types in the Twin Cities or within a day's drive. Add in Amtrak and a major airport served by bike-friendly transit, tons of bike shops, terrific bike infrastructure, flattish terrain, and plenty of lodging options, and we have a compelling case to have a country bike event here. I'm game for setting something up, though I'll probably need some locals to step in to help with leading rides, etc. Just to put a note of finality in it, I'm gonna say that we'll have an event the last weekend of September (26-28). If you come to the Twin Cities with a country bike at that time, I'll show you a good time. The itinerary is tentative, but let's plan on a reception Friday night followed by two days of riding the local area. There will be a camping option, which may be my backyard, but we'll see. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Crazy Idea: Riv National Jamboree
I'm happy to see Jim organize something for Minneapolis. But given that 2014 is Riv's 20th birthday (and the 50th anniversary of the Free Speech Movement), I think we need something in the SF Bay too. So I hereby volunteer to attempt to organize a gathering for the weekend of July 19th. It seems like China Camp in Marin was a consensus good location, with a trip to Diablo country to experience the roots of RBW. We will need more volunteers, though, for this to happen. WOMAN: We don't have a lord. ARTHUR: What? DENNIS: I told you. We're an anarcho-syndicalist commune. We take it in turns to act as a sort of executive officer for the week. ARTHUR: Yes. DENNIS: But all the decision of that officer have to be ratified at a special biweekly meeting. jim m wc ca -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Crazy Idea: Riv National Jamboree
Jim: July 19 is conveniently distant from end of September to make BOTH events do-able. Likely we'll have a decent turn-out from So-Cal, especially with good advance notice. We'll drink a toast to Mario Savio. dougP On Sunday, January 12, 2014 10:23:51 AM UTC-8, Jim M. wrote: I'm happy to see Jim organize something for Minneapolis. But given that 2014 is Riv's 20th birthday (and the 50th anniversary of the Free Speech Movement), I think we need something in the SF Bay too. So I hereby volunteer to attempt to organize a gathering for the weekend of July 19th. It seems like China Camp in Marin was a consensus good location, with a trip to Diablo country to experience the roots of RBW. We will need more volunteers, though, for this to happen. WOMAN: We don't have a lord. ARTHUR: What? DENNIS: I told you. We're an anarcho-syndicalist commune. We take it in turns to act as a sort of executive officer for the week. ARTHUR: Yes. DENNIS: But all the decision of that officer have to be ratified at a special biweekly meeting. jim m wc ca -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Crazy Idea: Riv National Jamboree
Jim and Jim you are the best thanks to each of you for stepping up to make this summer one potentially the best ever in Rivendell and country bike riding history. Maybe two new threads could be started to keep the ball rolling, let list members become accurately informed about each event, and hopefully solicited help will be received by those close enough to help. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Crazy Idea: Riv National Jamboree
Or a new group? ~Hugh Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance, you must keep moving. -- Albert Einstein http://velocipedemusings.blogspot.com/ On Sun, Jan 12, 2014 at 8:18 PM, Abcyclehank hankinso...@me.com wrote: Jim and Jim you are the best thanks to each of you for stepping up to make this summer one potentially the best ever in Rivendell and country bike riding history. Maybe two new threads could be started to keep the ball rolling, let list members become accurately informed about each event, and hopefully solicited help will be received by those close enough to help. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this topic, visit https://groups.google.com/d/topic/rbw-owners-bunch/i87JbNYav-A/unsubscribe . To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Crazy Idea: Riv National Jamboree
?? Is this idea dead or in the works still. Trying to plan my summer vacation and excited about traveling with bike. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Crazy Idea: Riv National Jamboree
I don't care if anybody calls it a national jamboree or whatever, but we have a critical mass of Riv types in the Twin Cities or within a day's drive. Add in Amtrak and a major airport served by bike-friendly transit, tons of bike shops, terrific bike infrastructure, flattish terrain, and plenty of lodging options, and we have a compelling case to have a country bike event here. I'm game for setting something up, though I'll probably need some locals to step in to help with leading rides, etc. Just to put a note of finality in it, I'm gonna say that we'll have an event the last weekend of September (26-28). If you come to the Twin Cities with a country bike at that time, I'll show you a good time. The itinerary is tentative, but let's plan on a reception Friday night followed by two days of riding the local area. There will be a camping option, which may be my backyard, but we'll see. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Crazy Idea: Riv National Jamboree
Count me in. With Saluki, 38 mm tires, and camera. Could camp but would prefer to be pampered at bbs. Michael On Saturday, January 11, 2014 4:57:23 PM UTC-5, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery wrote: I don't care if anybody calls it a national jamboree or whatever, but we have a critical mass of Riv types in the Twin Cities or within a day's drive. Add in Amtrak and a major airport served by bike-friendly transit, tons of bike shops, terrific bike infrastructure, flattish terrain, and plenty of lodging options, and we have a compelling case to have a country bike event here. I'm game for setting something up, though I'll probably need some locals to step in to help with leading rides, etc. Just to put a note of finality in it, I'm gonna say that we'll have an event the last weekend of September (26-28). If you come to the Twin Cities with a country bike at that time, I'll show you a good time. The itinerary is tentative, but let's plan on a reception Friday night followed by two days of riding the local area. There will be a camping option, which may be my backyard, but we'll see. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Crazy Idea: Riv National Jamboree
You gotta love a guy who takes charge nails a date for a party / rally / whatever. And he's a Rivendell Surly dealer. Add to that he's a quirky character what more could you want in a host? I've toured the area in both summer fall, and those dates are about as solid as you can get to miss both bug season snow season. As long as the dates don't conflict, both the Bay Area Twin Cities are do-able. Remember, travel broadens the mind. dougP On Saturday, January 11, 2014 1:57:23 PM UTC-8, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery wrote: I don't care if anybody calls it a national jamboree or whatever, but we have a critical mass of Riv types in the Twin Cities or within a day's drive. Add in Amtrak and a major airport served by bike-friendly transit, tons of bike shops, terrific bike infrastructure, flattish terrain, and plenty of lodging options, and we have a compelling case to have a country bike event here. I'm game for setting something up, though I'll probably need some locals to step in to help with leading rides, etc. Just to put a note of finality in it, I'm gonna say that we'll have an event the last weekend of September (26-28). If you come to the Twin Cities with a country bike at that time, I'll show you a good time. The itinerary is tentative, but let's plan on a reception Friday night followed by two days of riding the local area. There will be a camping option, which may be my backyard, but we'll see. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Crazy Idea: Riv National Jamboree
I live in the Bay Area. I will attend a Bay Area Riv Rally. I can ride my bike to China Camp. That said: A 20th Anniversary Rivendell Bicycles Freaky Jamboree doesn't belong anywhere but Mt. Diablo. Not a single Rivendell employee has made any comment on the proposed National Jamboree. Not a single Rivendell employee has made any comment on a Twentieth Anniversary Shindig. I think the Riv folk have something up their sleeveses. Television Psychic, Philip www.biketinker.com On Sunday, November 17, 2013 9:36:10 PM UTC-8, hsmitham wrote: I know. How about a loop up through Mendocino County through Anderson Valley, Philo and then down the coast back to the city. Best, ~Hugh On Sun, Nov 17, 2013 at 9:12 PM, dougP doug...@cox.net javascript:wrote: Sign me up, now! This has the makings of an event to base a tour around (hint-hint) for those who may be off for the summer or looking for a bike-worthy vacation. Start thinkin' dreamin'. dougP On Sunday, November 17, 2013 7:56:50 PM UTC-8, hsmitham wrote: What Ryan said, lets nail the weekend and location once and for all! It might be too much to ask the RBW folk to host as it seems they have their hands full with the BBH store front. We do need locals to take the lead , perhaps create another Group dedicated to the organization planning of the event. I don't feel like re-reading through six pages on this thread but I recall some of the BA locals mentioning that there are eating establishments close to the camp...just Google mapped C.C. man it's right on San Pablo Bay and food within I believe a flat 8 miles, and Mount Tam is right there. C'mon let's do this. Summer 2014 China Camp! Best, ~Hugh On Sun, Nov 17, 2013 at 7:41 PM, Abcyclehank hanki...@me.com wrote: I had proposed multiple rallies but was clearly shot down. Yet there can be only one National Jamboree so the logical spot in my opinion is Rivendell world headquarters and the surrounding area. It appeared to be leading in the poll system as well although again in my opinion it was setup in a flawed manner. Regardless someone with local ties (host) should select the official weekend, inquire if Grant and company wish to play any additional role, and create a committee to pull off this wonderful undertaking. As a Michigander who has been dreaming of a visit this will likely be the occasion that motivates me to act. Enough debate.time for one or more to take action. Ryan Midwest based Hankinson -- You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this topic, visit https://groups.google.com/d/ topic/rbw-owners-bunch/i87JbNYav-A/unsubscribe. To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this topic, visit https://groups.google.com/d/topic/rbw-owners-bunch/i87JbNYav-A/unsubscribe . To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com javascript:. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.comjavascript: . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Crazy Idea: Riv National Jamboree
I still like the MSP suggestion. Having it in the Bay Area makes sense because it's home base, but having it on either coast will make it impractical for people on the other. It's more likely to gain national participation if it is more centrally located. Marc On Sunday, November 17, 2013 2:10:52 AM UTC-5, Anne Paulson wrote: China Camp's a nice spot. And it's easy to get to from San Francisco: just take the Larkspur ferry, and then ride over. On Sat, Nov 16, 2013 at 10:51 PM, Hugh Smitham hughs...@gmail.comjavascript: wrote: Interesting when I attempted to reply through the list-serve it wouldn't load as though some force is hindering this endeavor?? I decided to reply though email. It all sort of fizzled...I've thought of resurrecting the notion and decided that perhaps the holiday's rapidly approaching has quelled the enthusiasm only to see it brought to the front in the new year, Thanks Jim for the bump..anything worth doing takes time so what's up Riv folk! I think the BA is the natural location as much as I'd love to visit the MSP area the Manny idea for China Camp sounded perfect with plenty of rides out of there for all levels. Any who I need time to plan for vacations so... ~Hugh Best, ~Hugh On Sat, Nov 16, 2013 at 7:34 PM, Jim M. math...@gmail.com javascript: wrote: Bump. I hope the momentum didn't die. not with a bang but a whimper jim m wc ca -- You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this topic, visit https://groups.google.com/d/topic/rbw-owners-bunch/i87JbNYav-A/unsubscribe. To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com javascript:. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.comjavascript:. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com javascript:. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.comjavascript:. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- -- Anne Paulson It isn't a contest. Enjoy the ride. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Crazy Idea: Riv National Jamboree
Lets find a time and place even hotter than Walnut Creek in the middle of July. Show some fortitude guys and gals. Michael On Sunday, November 17, 2013 10:34:01 AM UTC-5, Marc Irwin wrote: I still like the MSP suggestion. Having it in the Bay Area makes sense because it's home base, but having it on either coast will make it impractical for people on the other. It's more likely to gain national participation if it is more centrally located. Marc On Sunday, November 17, 2013 2:10:52 AM UTC-5, Anne Paulson wrote: China Camp's a nice spot. And it's easy to get to from San Francisco: just take the Larkspur ferry, and then ride over. On Sat, Nov 16, 2013 at 10:51 PM, Hugh Smitham hughs...@gmail.com wrote: Interesting when I attempted to reply through the list-serve it wouldn't load as though some force is hindering this endeavor?? I decided to reply though email. It all sort of fizzled...I've thought of resurrecting the notion and decided that perhaps the holiday's rapidly approaching has quelled the enthusiasm only to see it brought to the front in the new year, Thanks Jim for the bump..anything worth doing takes time so what's up Riv folk! I think the BA is the natural location as much as I'd love to visit the MSP area the Manny idea for China Camp sounded perfect with plenty of rides out of there for all levels. Any who I need time to plan for vacations so... ~Hugh Best, ~Hugh On Sat, Nov 16, 2013 at 7:34 PM, Jim M. math...@gmail.com wrote: Bump. I hope the momentum didn't die. not with a bang but a whimper jim m wc ca -- You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this topic, visit https://groups.google.com/d/topic/rbw-owners-bunch/i87JbNYav-A/unsubscribe. To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- -- Anne Paulson It isn't a contest. Enjoy the ride. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Crazy Idea: Riv National Jamboree
Phoenix in late July. I'd be very tempted if the jamboree were to be in Colorado. Can the Deacon host it? -- *RESUMES THAT GET YOU NOTICED!* Certified Resume Writer http://resumespecialties.com/index.html patrickmo...@resumespecialties.com http://www.linkedin.com/in/patrickmooreresumespec/ Albuquerque, NM -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Crazy Idea: Riv National Jamboree
Can the Deacon host it? I wish I could. With abandon, Patrick On Sunday, November 17, 2013 12:00:26 PM UTC-7, Patrick Moore wrote: Phoenix in late July. I'd be very tempted if the jamboree were to be in Colorado. Can the Deacon host it? -- *RESUMES THAT GET YOU NOTICED!* Certified Resume Writer http://resumespecialties.com/index.html patric...@resumespecialties.com javascript: http://www.linkedin.com/in/patrickmooreresumespec/ Albuquerque, NM -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Crazy Idea: Riv National Jamboree
I say Portland Maine in February, let's get out those studded tires! On Nov 17, 2013 2:11 PM, Deacon Patrick lamontg...@mac.com wrote: Can the Deacon host it? I wish I could. With abandon, Patrick On Sunday, November 17, 2013 12:00:26 PM UTC-7, Patrick Moore wrote: Phoenix in late July. I'd be very tempted if the jamboree were to be in Colorado. Can the Deacon host it? -- *RESUMES THAT GET YOU NOTICED!* Certified Resume Writer http://resumespecialties.com/index.html patric...@resumespecialties.com http://www.linkedin.com/in/patrickmooreresumespec/ Albuquerque, NM -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Crazy Idea: Riv National Jamboree
Going back over this, the voting started some time ago so who has been keeping tally? And what is the result? Dates mentioned have been July 12-13 July 19-20-21, and the Bay Area and Twin Cities seeming to have traction as far as hosts lodging options, with Jim Thill suggesting a camping trip in Wisconsin in September. Is it time to count the votes drive a stake? dougP On Sunday, November 17, 2013 11:12:55 AM UTC-8, Peter M wrote: I say Portland Maine in February, let's get out those studded tires! On Nov 17, 2013 2:11 PM, Deacon Patrick lamon...@mac.com javascript: wrote: Can the Deacon host it? I wish I could. With abandon, Patrick On Sunday, November 17, 2013 12:00:26 PM UTC-7, Patrick Moore wrote: Phoenix in late July. I'd be very tempted if the jamboree were to be in Colorado. Can the Deacon host it? -- *RESUMES THAT GET YOU NOTICED!* Certified Resume Writer http://resumespecialties.com/index.html patric...@resumespecialties.com http://www.linkedin.com/in/patrickmooreresumespec/ Albuquerque, NM -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com javascript:. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.comjavascript: . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Crazy Idea: Riv National Jamboree
If we go by the votes, China Camp won. On Sun, Nov 17, 2013 at 5:32 PM, dougP dougpn...@cox.net wrote: Going back over this, the voting started some time ago so who has been keeping tally? And what is the result? Dates mentioned have been July 12-13 July 19-20-21, and the Bay Area and Twin Cities seeming to have traction as far as hosts lodging options, with Jim Thill suggesting a camping trip in Wisconsin in September. Is it time to count the votes drive a stake? dougP On Sunday, November 17, 2013 11:12:55 AM UTC-8, Peter M wrote: I say Portland Maine in February, let's get out those studded tires! On Nov 17, 2013 2:11 PM, Deacon Patrick lamon...@mac.com wrote: Can the Deacon host it? I wish I could. With abandon, Patrick On Sunday, November 17, 2013 12:00:26 PM UTC-7, Patrick Moore wrote: Phoenix in late July. I'd be very tempted if the jamboree were to be in Colorado. Can the Deacon host it? -- RESUMES THAT GET YOU NOTICED! Certified Resume Writer http://resumespecialties.com/index.html patric...@resumespecialties.com http://www.linkedin.com/in/patrickmooreresumespec/ Albuquerque, NM -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- -- Anne Paulson It isn't a contest. Enjoy the ride. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Crazy Idea: Riv National Jamboree
There were 2 weekends in play. What was the preference? Hey Manny - you're gonna need a whole lot more squid! dougP On Sunday, November 17, 2013 5:54:36 PM UTC-8, Anne Paulson wrote: If we go by the votes, China Camp won. On Sun, Nov 17, 2013 at 5:32 PM, dougP doug...@cox.net javascript: wrote: Going back over this, the voting started some time ago so who has been keeping tally? And what is the result? Dates mentioned have been July 12-13 July 19-20-21, and the Bay Area and Twin Cities seeming to have traction as far as hosts lodging options, with Jim Thill suggesting a camping trip in Wisconsin in September. Is it time to count the votes drive a stake? dougP On Sunday, November 17, 2013 11:12:55 AM UTC-8, Peter M wrote: I say Portland Maine in February, let's get out those studded tires! On Nov 17, 2013 2:11 PM, Deacon Patrick lamon...@mac.com wrote: Can the Deacon host it? I wish I could. With abandon, Patrick On Sunday, November 17, 2013 12:00:26 PM UTC-7, Patrick Moore wrote: Phoenix in late July. I'd be very tempted if the jamboree were to be in Colorado. Can the Deacon host it? -- RESUMES THAT GET YOU NOTICED! Certified Resume Writer http://resumespecialties.com/index.html patric...@resumespecialties.com http://www.linkedin.com/in/patrickmooreresumespec/ Albuquerque, NM -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com javascript:. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.comjavascript:. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- -- Anne Paulson It isn't a contest. Enjoy the ride. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Crazy Idea: Riv National Jamboree
I had proposed multiple rallies but was clearly shot down. Yet there can be only one National Jamboree so the logical spot in my opinion is Rivendell world headquarters and the surrounding area. It appeared to be leading in the poll system as well although again in my opinion it was setup in a flawed manner. Regardless someone with local ties (host) should select the official weekend, inquire if Grant and company wish to play any additional role, and create a committee to pull off this wonderful undertaking. As a Michigander who has been dreaming of a visit this will likely be the occasion that motivates me to act. Enough debate.time for one or more to take action. Ryan Midwest based Hankinson -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Crazy Idea: Riv National Jamboree
What Ryan said, lets nail the weekend and location once and for all! It might be too much to ask the RBW folk to host as it seems they have their hands full with the BBH store front. We do need locals to take the lead , perhaps create another Group dedicated to the organization planning of the event. I don't feel like re-reading through six pages on this thread but I recall some of the BA locals mentioning that there are eating establishments close to the camp...just Google mapped C.C. man it's right on San Pablo Bay and food within I believe a flat 8 miles, and Mount Tam is right there. C'mon let's do this. Summer 2014 China Camp! Best, ~Hugh On Sun, Nov 17, 2013 at 7:41 PM, Abcyclehank hankinso...@me.com wrote: I had proposed multiple rallies but was clearly shot down. Yet there can be only one National Jamboree so the logical spot in my opinion is Rivendell world headquarters and the surrounding area. It appeared to be leading in the poll system as well although again in my opinion it was setup in a flawed manner. Regardless someone with local ties (host) should select the official weekend, inquire if Grant and company wish to play any additional role, and create a committee to pull off this wonderful undertaking. As a Michigander who has been dreaming of a visit this will likely be the occasion that motivates me to act. Enough debate.time for one or more to take action. Ryan Midwest based Hankinson -- You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this topic, visit https://groups.google.com/d/topic/rbw-owners-bunch/i87JbNYav-A/unsubscribe . To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Crazy Idea: Riv National Jamboree
Sign me up, now! This has the makings of an event to base a tour around (hint-hint) for those who may be off for the summer or looking for a bike-worthy vacation. Start thinkin' dreamin'. dougP On Sunday, November 17, 2013 7:56:50 PM UTC-8, hsmitham wrote: What Ryan said, lets nail the weekend and location once and for all! It might be too much to ask the RBW folk to host as it seems they have their hands full with the BBH store front. We do need locals to take the lead , perhaps create another Group dedicated to the organization planning of the event. I don't feel like re-reading through six pages on this thread but I recall some of the BA locals mentioning that there are eating establishments close to the camp...just Google mapped C.C. man it's right on San Pablo Bay and food within I believe a flat 8 miles, and Mount Tam is right there. C'mon let's do this. Summer 2014 China Camp! Best, ~Hugh On Sun, Nov 17, 2013 at 7:41 PM, Abcyclehank hanki...@me.comjavascript: wrote: I had proposed multiple rallies but was clearly shot down. Yet there can be only one National Jamboree so the logical spot in my opinion is Rivendell world headquarters and the surrounding area. It appeared to be leading in the poll system as well although again in my opinion it was setup in a flawed manner. Regardless someone with local ties (host) should select the official weekend, inquire if Grant and company wish to play any additional role, and create a committee to pull off this wonderful undertaking. As a Michigander who has been dreaming of a visit this will likely be the occasion that motivates me to act. Enough debate.time for one or more to take action. Ryan Midwest based Hankinson -- You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this topic, visit https://groups.google.com/d/topic/rbw-owners-bunch/i87JbNYav-A/unsubscribe . To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com javascript:. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.comjavascript: . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Crazy Idea: Riv National Jamboree
I know. How about a loop up through Mendocino County through Anderson Valley, Philo and then down the coast back to the city. Best, ~Hugh On Sun, Nov 17, 2013 at 9:12 PM, dougP dougpn...@cox.net wrote: Sign me up, now! This has the makings of an event to base a tour around (hint-hint) for those who may be off for the summer or looking for a bike-worthy vacation. Start thinkin' dreamin'. dougP On Sunday, November 17, 2013 7:56:50 PM UTC-8, hsmitham wrote: What Ryan said, lets nail the weekend and location once and for all! It might be too much to ask the RBW folk to host as it seems they have their hands full with the BBH store front. We do need locals to take the lead , perhaps create another Group dedicated to the organization planning of the event. I don't feel like re-reading through six pages on this thread but I recall some of the BA locals mentioning that there are eating establishments close to the camp...just Google mapped C.C. man it's right on San Pablo Bay and food within I believe a flat 8 miles, and Mount Tam is right there. C'mon let's do this. Summer 2014 China Camp! Best, ~Hugh On Sun, Nov 17, 2013 at 7:41 PM, Abcyclehank hanki...@me.com wrote: I had proposed multiple rallies but was clearly shot down. Yet there can be only one National Jamboree so the logical spot in my opinion is Rivendell world headquarters and the surrounding area. It appeared to be leading in the poll system as well although again in my opinion it was setup in a flawed manner. Regardless someone with local ties (host) should select the official weekend, inquire if Grant and company wish to play any additional role, and create a committee to pull off this wonderful undertaking. As a Michigander who has been dreaming of a visit this will likely be the occasion that motivates me to act. Enough debate.time for one or more to take action. Ryan Midwest based Hankinson -- You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this topic, visit https://groups.google.com/d/ topic/rbw-owners-bunch/i87JbNYav-A/unsubscribe. To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this topic, visit https://groups.google.com/d/topic/rbw-owners-bunch/i87JbNYav-A/unsubscribe . To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Crazy Idea: Riv National Jamboree
Bump. I hope the momentum didn't die. not with a bang but a whimper jim m wc ca -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Crazy Idea: Riv National Jamboree
I tuned out when it wasn't going to happen on Mt Diablo, the only place that makes a lick of sense for a Rivendell National Jamboree. I would hope that Rivendell makes it happen - a series of three adjacent S24Os? That would let staff and attendees come and go, and allow for more fluid campsite reservations. Not even remotely volunteering. Philip www.biketinker.com On Saturday, November 16, 2013 7:34:15 PM UTC-8, Jim M. wrote: Bump. I hope the momentum didn't die. not with a bang but a whimper jim m wc ca -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Crazy Idea: Riv National Jamboree
Interesting when I attempted to reply through the list-serve it wouldn't load as though some force is hindering this endeavor?? I decided to reply though email. It all sort of fizzled...I've thought of resurrecting the notion and decided that perhaps the holiday's rapidly approaching has quelled the enthusiasm only to see it brought to the front in the new year, Thanks Jim for the bump..anything worth doing takes time so what's up Riv folk! I think the BA is the natural location as much as I'd love to visit the MSP area the Manny idea for China Camp sounded perfect with plenty of rides out of there for all levels. Any who I need time to plan for vacations so... ~Hugh Best, ~Hugh On Sat, Nov 16, 2013 at 7:34 PM, Jim M. mather...@gmail.com wrote: Bump. I hope the momentum didn't die. not with a bang but a whimper jim m wc ca -- You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this topic, visit https://groups.google.com/d/topic/rbw-owners-bunch/i87JbNYav-A/unsubscribe . To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Crazy Idea: Riv National Jamboree
China Camp's a nice spot. And it's easy to get to from San Francisco: just take the Larkspur ferry, and then ride over. On Sat, Nov 16, 2013 at 10:51 PM, Hugh Smitham hughsmit...@gmail.com wrote: Interesting when I attempted to reply through the list-serve it wouldn't load as though some force is hindering this endeavor?? I decided to reply though email. It all sort of fizzled...I've thought of resurrecting the notion and decided that perhaps the holiday's rapidly approaching has quelled the enthusiasm only to see it brought to the front in the new year, Thanks Jim for the bump..anything worth doing takes time so what's up Riv folk! I think the BA is the natural location as much as I'd love to visit the MSP area the Manny idea for China Camp sounded perfect with plenty of rides out of there for all levels. Any who I need time to plan for vacations so... ~Hugh Best, ~Hugh On Sat, Nov 16, 2013 at 7:34 PM, Jim M. mather...@gmail.com wrote: Bump. I hope the momentum didn't die. not with a bang but a whimper jim m wc ca -- You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this topic, visit https://groups.google.com/d/topic/rbw-owners-bunch/i87JbNYav-A/unsubscribe. To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- -- Anne Paulson It isn't a contest. Enjoy the ride. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Crazy Idea: Riv National Jamboree
Places in between? Are you suggesting a three-night festival? Mt Diablo, Mt Tam, Angel Island? Ferries, bridges, cities, mountains and islands? I guess you weren't. But you could. Philip www.biketinker.com On Monday, August 5, 2013 8:37:31 AM UTC-7, Manuel Acosta wrote: Lost. Who else has a bid for this Jam? If Bay Area wins. I don't mind trying to provide options for lodgings. China Camp is close enough and far away enough to find places in between. On Friday, August 2, 2013 8:24:07 AM UTC-7, Andy Smitty Schmidt wrote: Hub and spoke certainly seems like the preferred design for a larger gathering of this type. Denver area would be great, but I'm not there so wouldn't be much help for organizing. I will be among the camping contingent. I hope this happens. --Smitty -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Crazy Idea: Riv National Jamboree
I'd do mn or wi for sure. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Crazy Idea: Riv National Jamboree
I cast my vote for the Bay Area. I like the Riv anniversary connection, and I can make it an opportunity to visit my sister out east of Walnut Creek. Not to mention, some nice wineries and brew pubs! I hope this comes together, and would be willing to come out early to help, if needed. On Wednesday, July 31, 2013 10:40:24 AM UTC-4, Liesl wrote: Do you think we could do it? Plan it out far enough ahead of time (like a year), figure out a place that people from far way and not the whole summer to ride can get to by plane or train or car and figure out how to get their bikes there...a place with good riding country...an organizing group that's local...I just think it would be so utterly fantastic to meet everyone and ride and sit around a campfire. I used to do this kind of thing back in my motorcycling days and made some very dear friends that i'd only see once a year or two. Whatcha'll think? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Crazy Idea: Riv National Jamboree
I would like to see the twin cities, but I too find the 20 year anniversary connection persuasive. Another vote for the SF bay area. Michael Allen On Wednesday, July 31, 2013 7:40:24 AM UTC-7, Liesl wrote: Do you think we could do it? Plan it out far enough ahead of time (like a year), figure out a place that people from far way and not the whole summer to ride can get to by plane or train or car and figure out how to get their bikes there...a place with good riding country...an organizing group that's local...I just think it would be so utterly fantastic to meet everyone and ride and sit around a campfire. I used to do this kind of thing back in my motorcycling days and made some very dear friends that i'd only see once a year or two. Whatcha'll think? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Crazy Idea: Riv National Jamboree
My vote would be for the Bay Area. I would be up to organizing a casual QB/S1/SS ride on a weekday before the Jamboree. AD -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Crazy Idea: Riv National Jamboree
Wow...with the Riv anniversary, the volunteers to arrive early, and the day before ride organizing, this could be a full blown festival! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Crazy Idea: Riv National Jamboree
It's preposterously easy for me to vote Bay Area, since I'm local. I have done a lot of business trips in Chanhassen and I will corroborate that the MSP area is lovely in the Fall, so I vote for BOTH! On Tuesday, August 20, 2013 8:18:15 AM UTC-7, allenmichael wrote: I would like to see the twin cities, but I too find the 20 year anniversary connection persuasive. Another vote for the SF bay area. Michael Allen On Wednesday, July 31, 2013 7:40:24 AM UTC-7, Liesl wrote: Do you think we could do it? Plan it out far enough ahead of time (like a year), figure out a place that people from far way and not the whole summer to ride can get to by plane or train or car and figure out how to get their bikes there...a place with good riding country...an organizing group that's local...I just think it would be so utterly fantastic to meet everyone and ride and sit around a campfire. I used to do this kind of thing back in my motorcycling days and made some very dear friends that i'd only see once a year or two. Whatcha'll think? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Crazy Idea: Riv National Jamboree
I made a doodle poll here: http://doodle.com/skm8u4ges4gtxqt5 While I created this poll, it does not mean anything beyond that...! Edwin Nashville, TN -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Crazy Idea: Riv National Jamboree
Bay Area - July 19-20, 2014. Works for me if I can swing it. On Tue, Aug 20, 2013 at 8:46 AM, William tapebu...@gmail.com wrote: It's preposterously easy for me to vote Bay Area, since I'm local. I have done a lot of business trips in Chanhassen and I will corroborate that the MSP area is lovely in the Fall, so I vote for BOTH! On Tuesday, August 20, 2013 8:18:15 AM UTC-7, allenmichael wrote: I would like to see the twin cities, but I too find the 20 year anniversary connection persuasive. Another vote for the SF bay area. Michael Allen On Wednesday, July 31, 2013 7:40:24 AM UTC-7, Liesl wrote: Do you think we could do it? Plan it out far enough ahead of time (like a year), figure out a place that people from far way and not the whole summer to ride can get to by plane or train or car and figure out how to get their bikes there...a place with good riding country...an organizing group that's local...I just think it would be so utterly fantastic to meet everyone and ride and sit around a campfire. I used to do this kind of thing back in my motorcycling days and made some very dear friends that i'd only see once a year or two. Whatcha'll think? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- Robert Harrison Honolulu, HI rfharri...@gmail.com statrix.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Crazy Idea: Riv National Jamboree
Bumping this topic. My vote is for Bay Area, because this would be the first national jamboree, and it's Riv's 20th anniversary. I volunteer to help, too. Is anyone counting votes. jim m wc ca -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Crazy Idea: Riv National Jamboree
Is the voting window open? If so mark me down for SF. Would be willing to
help or sponsor an event such as a slow bicycle race. PDX would be second
for me.
On Monday, August 19, 2013, Jim M. wrote:
Bumping this topic. My vote is for Bay Area, because this would be the
first national jamboree, and it's Riv's 20th anniversary. I volunteer to
help, too. Is anyone counting votes.
jim m
wc ca
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[RBW] Re: Crazy Idea: Riv National Jamboree
I'll recuse myself from the vote as I'm not likely to be able to attend, but wherever it is it out to be a blast and I'll definitely wish I was able to be there. With abandon, Patrick -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Crazy Idea: Riv National Jamboree
I'm hoping this materializes, and am going to make an effort to participate. For me MSP makes it a probable, and SF is a maybe. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Crazy Idea: Riv National Jamboree
What's not to love about the Bay Area, and it would naturally be a great (and logical) place for a national gathering. But I've never visited the Twin Cities, Marc Irwin makes a great point about Amtrak travel, and the bike vibe there (despite harsh winters) is unflappable. I vote for MSP. BB On Wednesday, August 14, 2013 11:42:09 PM UTC-4, allenmichael wrote: I would likely vote for a.MSP destination. Some of my forebears left Minnesota to come to California. I've always been curious to get out there and look around. Michael Allen -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Crazy Idea: Riv National Jamboree
I'm in for certain at the Twin Cities, I will even come up a day or two early to help if needed. West Coast? Maybe, possibly, depending on when and where. Marc On Thursday, August 15, 2013 3:52:54 PM UTC-4, Hiawatha Cyclery wrote: If the Twin Cities prove to be the consensus choice for the Rally, I can set it up. Late Sept or Early Oct, with camping and hotel options, urban and country rides. On Wednesday, August 14, 2013 7:21:29 PM UTC-5, dougP wrote: The Twin Cities harbor a number of subversive elements...approach with caution. BUT there is a Rivendell dealer there so you could save half the transport hassle by just buying a new bike from him :-). dougP On Wednesday, August 14, 2013 3:31:43 PM UTC-7, Marc Irwin wrote: That MSP cell has a location advantage. They are at least close to the center of the country and Minneapolis has really good service from Amtrak, people of both coasts could take a train which has full baggage service which means Amtrak can provide boxes to bring full sized bikes along. That is a major logistical problem for most people traveling. Marc On Wednesday, August 14, 2013 5:25:45 PM UTC-4, Liesl wrote: There is a Minneapolis/St. Paul sleeper cell noodling up an idea although our meetings have been adhoc at best... Liesl-can-you-tell-i'm-working-too-hard-since-I-haven't-posted-recently? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Crazy Idea: Riv National Jamboree
I vote for Twin Cities in late September... On Thursday, August 15, 2013 2:52:54 PM UTC-5, Hiawatha Cyclery wrote: If the Twin Cities prove to be the consensus choice for the Rally, I can set it up. Late Sept or Early Oct, with camping and hotel options, urban and country rides. On Wednesday, August 14, 2013 7:21:29 PM UTC-5, dougP wrote: The Twin Cities harbor a number of subversive elements...approach with caution. BUT there is a Rivendell dealer there so you could save half the transport hassle by just buying a new bike from him :-). dougP On Wednesday, August 14, 2013 3:31:43 PM UTC-7, Marc Irwin wrote: That MSP cell has a location advantage. They are at least close to the center of the country and Minneapolis has really good service from Amtrak, people of both coasts could take a train which has full baggage service which means Amtrak can provide boxes to bring full sized bikes along. That is a major logistical problem for most people traveling. Marc On Wednesday, August 14, 2013 5:25:45 PM UTC-4, Liesl wrote: There is a Minneapolis/St. Paul sleeper cell noodling up an idea although our meetings have been adhoc at best... Liesl-can-you-tell-i'm-working-too-hard-since-I-haven't-posted-recently? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Crazy Idea: Riv National Jamboree
If the Twin Cities prove to be the consensus choice for the Rally, I can set it up. Late Sept or Early Oct, with camping and hotel options, urban and country rides. On Wednesday, August 14, 2013 7:21:29 PM UTC-5, dougP wrote: The Twin Cities harbor a number of subversive elements...approach with caution. BUT there is a Rivendell dealer there so you could save half the transport hassle by just buying a new bike from him :-). dougP On Wednesday, August 14, 2013 3:31:43 PM UTC-7, Marc Irwin wrote: That MSP cell has a location advantage. They are at least close to the center of the country and Minneapolis has really good service from Amtrak, people of both coasts could take a train which has full baggage service which means Amtrak can provide boxes to bring full sized bikes along. That is a major logistical problem for most people traveling. Marc On Wednesday, August 14, 2013 5:25:45 PM UTC-4, Liesl wrote: There is a Minneapolis/St. Paul sleeper cell noodling up an idea although our meetings have been adhoc at best... Liesl-can-you-tell-i'm-working-too-hard-since-I-haven't-posted-recently? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Crazy Idea: Riv National Jamboree
If Manny Co host in the Bay Area in July, and Jim Thill hosts in the Twin Cities in Sept or Oct, I'm in for both events. So I guess I cancel my own vote? dougP On Thursday, August 15, 2013 12:52:54 PM UTC-7, Hiawatha Cyclery wrote: If the Twin Cities prove to be the consensus choice for the Rally, I can set it up. Late Sept or Early Oct, with camping and hotel options, urban and country rides. On Wednesday, August 14, 2013 7:21:29 PM UTC-5, dougP wrote: The Twin Cities harbor a number of subversive elements...approach with caution. BUT there is a Rivendell dealer there so you could save half the transport hassle by just buying a new bike from him :-). dougP On Wednesday, August 14, 2013 3:31:43 PM UTC-7, Marc Irwin wrote: That MSP cell has a location advantage. They are at least close to the center of the country and Minneapolis has really good service from Amtrak, people of both coasts could take a train which has full baggage service which means Amtrak can provide boxes to bring full sized bikes along. That is a major logistical problem for most people traveling. Marc On Wednesday, August 14, 2013 5:25:45 PM UTC-4, Liesl wrote: There is a Minneapolis/St. Paul sleeper cell noodling up an idea although our meetings have been adhoc at best... Liesl-can-you-tell-i'm-working-too-hard-since-I-haven't-posted-recently? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Crazy Idea: Riv National Jamboree
I could see coming to the Twin Cities.. On Thu, Aug 15, 2013 at 2:52 PM, Hiawatha Cyclery hiawathacycl...@gmail.com wrote: If the Twin Cities prove to be the consensus choice for the Rally, I can set it up. Late Sept or Early Oct, with camping and hotel options, urban and country rides. On Wednesday, August 14, 2013 7:21:29 PM UTC-5, dougP wrote: The Twin Cities harbor a number of subversive elements...approach with caution. BUT there is a Rivendell dealer there so you could save half the transport hassle by just buying a new bike from him :-). dougP On Wednesday, August 14, 2013 3:31:43 PM UTC-7, Marc Irwin wrote: That MSP cell has a location advantage. They are at least close to the center of the country and Minneapolis has really good service from Amtrak, people of both coasts could take a train which has full baggage service which means Amtrak can provide boxes to bring full sized bikes along. That is a major logistical problem for most people traveling. Marc On Wednesday, August 14, 2013 5:25:45 PM UTC-4, Liesl wrote: There is a Minneapolis/St. Paul sleeper cell noodling up an idea although our meetings have been adhoc at best... Liesl-can-you-tell-i'm-**working-too-hard-since-I-** haven't-posted-recently? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Crazy Idea: Riv National Jamboree
19/20/21 in case a few can stick around another day? On Wednesday, July 31, 2013 7:40:24 AM UTC-7, Liesl wrote: Do you think we could do it? Plan it out far enough ahead of time (like a year), figure out a place that people from far way and not the whole summer to ride can get to by plane or train or car and figure out how to get their bikes there...a place with good riding country...an organizing group that's local...I just think it would be so utterly fantastic to meet everyone and ride and sit around a campfire. I used to do this kind of thing back in my motorcycling days and made some very dear friends that i'd only see once a year or two. Whatcha'll think? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Crazy Idea: Riv National Jamboree
This is a little bit cool: If the Jamboree gets off the ground in 2014, it will coincide with the year of Rivendell's 20th Anniversery. On Aug 14, 2013, at 8:34 AM, allenmichael wrote: 19/20/21 in case a few can stick around another day? On Wednesday, July 31, 2013 7:40:24 AM UTC-7, Liesl wrote: Do you think we could do it? Plan it out far enough ahead of time (like a year), figure out a place that people from far way and not the whole summer to ride can get to by plane or train or car and figure out how to get their bikes there...a place with good riding country...an organizing group that's local...I just think it would be so utterly fantastic to meet everyone and ride and sit around a campfire. I used to do this kind of thing back in my motorcycling days and made some very dear friends that i'd only see once a year or two. Whatcha'll think? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Crazy Idea: Riv National Jamboree
I think as Manny say's just pick a date and place, everything else will fall into place. Jim that is cool 20 years. Liesl we should start with voting of the three locations. I'm still wishing for that fourth location. Mr Gifford Pinchot has a nice place. ~Hugh On Wed, Aug 14, 2013 at 8:48 AM, James Warren jimcwar...@earthlink.netwrote: This is a little bit cool: If the Jamboree gets off the ground in 2014, it will coincide with the year of Rivendell's 20th Anniversery. On Aug 14, 2013, at 8:34 AM, allenmichael wrote: 19/20/21 in case a few can stick around another day? On Wednesday, July 31, 2013 7:40:24 AM UTC-7, Liesl wrote: Do you think we could do it? Plan it out far enough ahead of time (like a year), figure out a place that people from far way and not the whole summer to ride can get to by plane or train or car and figure out how to get their bikes there...a place with good riding country...an organizing group that's local...I just think it would be so utterly fantastic to meet everyone and ride and sit around a campfire. I used to do this kind of thing back in my motorcycling days and made some very dear friends that i'd only see once a year or two. Whatcha'll think? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this topic, visit https://groups.google.com/d/topic/rbw-owners-bunch/i87JbNYav-A/unsubscribe . To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Crazy Idea: Riv National Jamboree
Gifford Pinchot in 2015, I guess, but let's pick a location and time for next year. So far Manny's bid of China Camp (just north of SF), July 19-20, is the only specific proposal. So, faute de mieux, I guess we have to pick it? On Wed, Aug 14, 2013 at 9:06 AM, Hugh Smitham hughsmit...@gmail.com wrote: I think as Manny say's just pick a date and place, everything else will fall into place. Jim that is cool 20 years. Liesl we should start with voting of the three locations. I'm still wishing for that fourth location. Mr Gifford Pinchot has a nice place. ~Hugh On Wed, Aug 14, 2013 at 8:48 AM, James Warren jimcwar...@earthlink.net wrote: This is a little bit cool: If the Jamboree gets off the ground in 2014, it will coincide with the year of Rivendell's 20th Anniversery. On Aug 14, 2013, at 8:34 AM, allenmichael wrote: 19/20/21 in case a few can stick around another day? On Wednesday, July 31, 2013 7:40:24 AM UTC-7, Liesl wrote: Do you think we could do it? Plan it out far enough ahead of time (like a year), figure out a place that people from far way and not the whole summer to ride can get to by plane or train or car and figure out how to get their bikes there...a place with good riding country...an organizing group that's local...I just think it would be so utterly fantastic to meet everyone and ride and sit around a campfire. I used to do this kind of thing back in my motorcycling days and made some very dear friends that i'd only see once a year or two. Whatcha'll think? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this topic, visit https://groups.google.com/d/topic/rbw-owners-bunch/i87JbNYav-A/unsubscribe. To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- -- Anne Paulson It isn't a contest. Enjoy the ride. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Crazy Idea: Riv National Jamboree
Hey Anne and group,I guess I was confusing in my post. I was just putting in a good word for the midwest. I live in San Fran and would have no way of hosting in the midwest. -Mike Sent from my iPhone On Aug 13, 2013, at 9:36 AM, Anne Paulson anne.paul...@gmail.com wrote: So we now, if I have gone through the messages correctly, have three bids: Jim Thill volunteers to host a gathering in late September in northern Wisconsin. Michael Williams volunteers to host a gathering in Minneapolis, no time specified Manny Acosta volunteers to host in at China Camp, which is just north of San Francisco July 13-14. (I volunteer to help with organizing if this is the winner. Someone else, whose name I forget, also volunteer to help with organizing.) Let's discuss these three bids and pick one. On Tue, Aug 13, 2013 at 9:17 AM, allenmichael allenmich...@mac.com wrote: I'm offering to assist with Manny's bay area bid. Michael Allen On Wednesday, July 31, 2013 7:40:24 AM UTC-7, Liesl wrote: Do you think we could do it? Plan it out far enough ahead of time (like a year), figure out a place that people from far way and not the whole summer to ride can get to by plane or train or car and figure out how to get their bikes there...a place with good riding country...an organizing group that's local...I just think it would be so utterly fantastic to meet everyone and ride and sit around a campfire. I used to do this kind of thing back in my motorcycling days and made some very dear friends that i'd only see once a year or two. Whatcha'll think? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- -- Anne Paulson It isn't a contest. Enjoy the ride. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Crazy Idea: Riv National Jamboree
There is a Minneapolis/St. Paul sleeper cell noodling up an idea although our meetings have been adhoc at best... Liesl-can-you-tell-i'm-working-too-hard-since-I-haven't-posted-recently? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Crazy Idea: Riv National Jamboree
Are you wanting active NSA surveillance on this list, Liesl? With abandon (obviously), Patrick On Wednesday, August 14, 2013 3:25:45 PM UTC-6, Liesl wrote: There is a Minneapolis/St. Paul sleeper cell noodling up an idea although our meetings have been adhoc at best... Liesl-can-you-tell-i'm-working-too-hard-since-I-haven't-posted-recently? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Crazy Idea: Riv National Jamboree
That MSP cell has a location advantage. They are at least close to the center of the country and Minneapolis has really good service from Amtrak, people of both coasts could take a train which has full baggage service which means Amtrak can provide boxes to bring full sized bikes along. That is a major logistical problem for most people traveling. Marc On Wednesday, August 14, 2013 5:25:45 PM UTC-4, Liesl wrote: There is a Minneapolis/St. Paul sleeper cell noodling up an idea although our meetings have been adhoc at best... Liesl-can-you-tell-i'm-working-too-hard-since-I-haven't-posted-recently? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Crazy Idea: Riv National Jamboree
The Twin Cities harbor a number of subversive elements...approach with caution. BUT there is a Rivendell dealer there so you could save half the transport hassle by just buying a new bike from him :-). dougP On Wednesday, August 14, 2013 3:31:43 PM UTC-7, Marc Irwin wrote: That MSP cell has a location advantage. They are at least close to the center of the country and Minneapolis has really good service from Amtrak, people of both coasts could take a train which has full baggage service which means Amtrak can provide boxes to bring full sized bikes along. That is a major logistical problem for most people traveling. Marc On Wednesday, August 14, 2013 5:25:45 PM UTC-4, Liesl wrote: There is a Minneapolis/St. Paul sleeper cell noodling up an idea although our meetings have been adhoc at best... Liesl-can-you-tell-i'm-working-too-hard-since-I-haven't-posted-recently? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Crazy Idea: Riv National Jamboree
I would likely vote for a.MSP destination. Some of my forebears left Minnesota to come to California. I've always been curious to get out there and look around. Michael Allen -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Crazy Idea: Riv National Jamboree
Another vote for China Camp. Jay Lonner Bellingham, WA (tickled that it came up as a possible destination, not at all surprised that it didn't make the final cut) On Wednesday, August 14, 2013 8:42:09 PM UTC-7, allenmichael wrote: I would likely vote for a.MSP destination. Some of my forebears left Minnesota to come to California. I've always been curious to get out there and look around. Michael Allen -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Crazy Idea: Riv National Jamboree
Bump because this would be great if it happened On Monday, August 5, 2013 12:48:02 PM UTC-7, Marc Irwin wrote: I'd be glad to help, but I am in lower Michigan down by Chicago, I would be better able to help with that area. Jim Thill is in MSP and definitely knows the countryside. Marc On Monday, August 5, 2013 12:22:48 PM UTC-4, Liesl wrote: Yes, I am curious as to who has a bid in for this Jam as well. As far as can tell, Jim Thill has the only close-to-formal-bid. Fall in Northern Wisconsin/Michigan Upper Penninsula/Northern Lower Penninsula with camping. While I can vouch for the beauty of these areas, I can also vouch that they are another day's drive from a major airport (MSP, Milwaukee, or Detroit) I'd like to assist with a Minneapolis/St. Paul (MSP) bid during the summer but because this is the busiest time for me at work, I can't take the lead. How many could do the week after Labor Day? I would suggest a home base that's an hour or less from the airport along the st. croix river or mississippi river, etc. (for MSP locals: Stillwater, Redwing, Scandia, Marina on St. Croix, etc.) There could be hotels, BB's, close camping, etc. A good retreat center could be a good idea. Anyone want to work on this with me? liesl -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Crazy Idea: Riv National Jamboree
I'm offering to assist with Manny's bay area bid. Michael Allen On Wednesday, July 31, 2013 7:40:24 AM UTC-7, Liesl wrote: Do you think we could do it? Plan it out far enough ahead of time (like a year), figure out a place that people from far way and not the whole summer to ride can get to by plane or train or car and figure out how to get their bikes there...a place with good riding country...an organizing group that's local...I just think it would be so utterly fantastic to meet everyone and ride and sit around a campfire. I used to do this kind of thing back in my motorcycling days and made some very dear friends that i'd only see once a year or two. Whatcha'll think? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Crazy Idea: Riv National Jamboree
So we now, if I have gone through the messages correctly, have three bids: Jim Thill volunteers to host a gathering in late September in northern Wisconsin. Michael Williams volunteers to host a gathering in Minneapolis, no time specified Manny Acosta volunteers to host in at China Camp, which is just north of San Francisco July 13-14. (I volunteer to help with organizing if this is the winner. Someone else, whose name I forget, also volunteer to help with organizing.) Let's discuss these three bids and pick one. On Tue, Aug 13, 2013 at 9:17 AM, allenmichael allenmich...@mac.com wrote: I'm offering to assist with Manny's bay area bid. Michael Allen On Wednesday, July 31, 2013 7:40:24 AM UTC-7, Liesl wrote: Do you think we could do it? Plan it out far enough ahead of time (like a year), figure out a place that people from far way and not the whole summer to ride can get to by plane or train or car and figure out how to get their bikes there...a place with good riding country...an organizing group that's local...I just think it would be so utterly fantastic to meet everyone and ride and sit around a campfire. I used to do this kind of thing back in my motorcycling days and made some very dear friends that i'd only see once a year or two. Whatcha'll think? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- -- Anne Paulson It isn't a contest. Enjoy the ride. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Crazy Idea: Riv National Jamboree
Unless I'm mistaken, July 13-14 is a Sunday/Monday date. I think 12/13 is the weekend. :-) Any chance this could be modified to be July 19/20? I have to be in Boise Idaho on 12/13 and would seriously consider taking the week and flying back through the Bay area and taking the extra time for a Jamboree. Aloha, Bob On Tue, Aug 13, 2013 at 6:36 AM, Anne Paulson anne.paul...@gmail.comwrote: So we now, if I have gone through the messages correctly, have three bids: Jim Thill volunteers to host a gathering in late September in northern Wisconsin. Michael Williams volunteers to host a gathering in Minneapolis, no time specified Manny Acosta volunteers to host in at China Camp, which is just north of San Francisco July 13-14. (I volunteer to help with organizing if this is the winner. Someone else, whose name I forget, also volunteer to help with organizing.) Let's discuss these three bids and pick one. On Tue, Aug 13, 2013 at 9:17 AM, allenmichael allenmich...@mac.com wrote: I'm offering to assist with Manny's bay area bid. Michael Allen On Wednesday, July 31, 2013 7:40:24 AM UTC-7, Liesl wrote: Do you think we could do it? Plan it out far enough ahead of time (like a year), figure out a place that people from far way and not the whole summer to ride can get to by plane or train or car and figure out how to get their bikes there...a place with good riding country...an organizing group that's local...I just think it would be so utterly fantastic to meet everyone and ride and sit around a campfire. I used to do this kind of thing back in my motorcycling days and made some very dear friends that i'd only see once a year or two. Whatcha'll think? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- -- Anne Paulson It isn't a contest. Enjoy the ride. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- Robert Harrison Honolulu, HI rfharri...@gmail.com statrix.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Crazy Idea: Riv National Jamboree
19-20 sounds good to me. I don't mind changing it. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Crazy Idea: Riv National Jamboree
On the other hand, the upper part of the lower peninsula has some of the most beautiful forests and shoreline you can find anywhere, and there's no shortage of yuppie cafe's, gift shops, winerys and micro brews. Marc On Sunday, August 4, 2013 7:42:15 PM UTC-4, Fullylugged wrote: Speaking of the UP, I back packed Pictured Rocks Lakeshore a few years back and saw bears. In fact, all campsites have bear poles to hang your food up high on. No wolves though. On Sat, Aug 3, 2013 at 7:51 PM, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery thil...@gmail.com javascript: wrote: I volunteer to host, northern Wisconsin or perhaps my ancestral homeland of Upper Michigan. Dates are flexible, but I prefer late Sept for splendid Fall color. Lots of northwoods adventure. A real possibility of encountering wolves (they probably won't eat you). Probably more camping-centric than BB centric, and not much for yuppie cafes and quaint gift shops, but nothing is perfect for everybody. Of course, if it's just two or three days, we could rent cabins and do day trips. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com javascript:. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.comjavascript: . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Crazy Idea: Riv National Jamboree
Lost. Who else has a bid for this Jam? If Bay Area wins. I don't mind trying to provide options for lodgings. China Camp is close enough and far away enough to find places in between. On Friday, August 2, 2013 8:24:07 AM UTC-7, Andy Smitty Schmidt wrote: Hub and spoke certainly seems like the preferred design for a larger gathering of this type. Denver area would be great, but I'm not there so wouldn't be much help for organizing. I will be among the camping contingent. I hope this happens. --Smitty -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Crazy Idea: Riv National Jamboree
Yes, I am curious as to who has a bid in for this Jam as well. As far as can tell, Jim Thill has the only close-to-formal-bid. Fall in Northern Wisconsin/Michigan Upper Penninsula/Northern Lower Penninsula with camping. While I can vouch for the beauty of these areas, I can also vouch that they are another day's drive from a major airport (MSP, Milwaukee, or Detroit) I'd like to assist with a Minneapolis/St. Paul (MSP) bid during the summer but because this is the busiest time for me at work, I can't take the lead. How many could do the week after Labor Day? I would suggest a home base that's an hour or less from the airport along the st. croix river or mississippi river, etc. (for MSP locals: Stillwater, Redwing, Scandia, Marina on St. Croix, etc.) There could be hotels, BB's, close camping, etc. A good retreat center could be a good idea. Anyone want to work on this with me? liesl -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Crazy Idea: Riv National Jamboree
I'd be glad to help, but I am in lower Michigan down by Chicago, I would be better able to help with that area. Jim Thill is in MSP and definitely knows the countryside. Marc On Monday, August 5, 2013 12:22:48 PM UTC-4, Liesl wrote: Yes, I am curious as to who has a bid in for this Jam as well. As far as can tell, Jim Thill has the only close-to-formal-bid. Fall in Northern Wisconsin/Michigan Upper Penninsula/Northern Lower Penninsula with camping. While I can vouch for the beauty of these areas, I can also vouch that they are another day's drive from a major airport (MSP, Milwaukee, or Detroit) I'd like to assist with a Minneapolis/St. Paul (MSP) bid during the summer but because this is the busiest time for me at work, I can't take the lead. How many could do the week after Labor Day? I would suggest a home base that's an hour or less from the airport along the st. croix river or mississippi river, etc. (for MSP locals: Stillwater, Redwing, Scandia, Marina on St. Croix, etc.) There could be hotels, BB's, close camping, etc. A good retreat center could be a good idea. Anyone want to work on this with me? liesl -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Crazy Idea: Riv National Jamboree
Jim, good suggestions, and it might be the Texas heat talking but the fall timing is especially appealing. I saw positive feedback on your country bike events and have regretted missing out ever since. Having a volunteer host is a significant development. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Crazy Idea: Riv National Jamboree
Speaking of the UP, I back packed Pictured Rocks Lakeshore a few years back and saw bears. In fact, all campsites have bear poles to hang your food up high on. No wolves though. On Sat, Aug 3, 2013 at 7:51 PM, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery thill@gmail.com wrote: I volunteer to host, northern Wisconsin or perhaps my ancestral homeland of Upper Michigan. Dates are flexible, but I prefer late Sept for splendid Fall color. Lots of northwoods adventure. A real possibility of encountering wolves (they probably won't eat you). Probably more camping-centric than BB centric, and not much for yuppie cafes and quaint gift shops, but nothing is perfect for everybody. Of course, if it's just two or three days, we could rent cabins and do day trips. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Crazy Idea: Riv National Jamboree
I volunteer to host, northern Wisconsin or perhaps my ancestral homeland of Upper Michigan. Dates are flexible, but I prefer late Sept for splendid Fall color. Lots of northwoods adventure. A real possibility of encountering wolves (they probably won't eat you). Probably more camping-centric than BB centric, and not much for yuppie cafes and quaint gift shops, but nothing is perfect for everybody. Of course, if it's just two or three days, we could rent cabins and do day trips. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Crazy Idea: Riv National Jamboree
I was thinking that way, too, Anne. I actually started out an exercise querying round-trip airline fares for various destinations from a variety of cities (SF, NYC, DC, Seattle, Portland, LA, San Diego, etc.). I thought I'd try Denver as a destination first. So far, it looks like Chicago O'Hare would be the cheapest average round-trip flight from most of the points of origin I checked. Lee On Thu, Aug 1, 2013 at 5:58 PM, Anne Paulson anne.paul...@gmail.com wrote: IF we are looking for geographical centers-- and I don't know that we are-- we should look for the geographical center of the rider's home towns, not the geographical center of the US. I suspect the geographical center of riders would be something like Denver. On Thu, Aug 1, 2013 at 5:50 PM, Marc Irwin irwin7...@gmail.com wrote: I was going to chime in on that also. If it is to be a national get together, picking a place in one distant corner will rule out a lot of people just because of the travel. It will be a regional get together as a result. As I mentioned earlier the geographical center of the country is in northern Kansas almost equidistant from Kansas City, Omaha and Denver. I'm not familiar with Omaha but Kansas City and Denver both have a lot going for them and a lot of very interesting riding to be chosen. Marc On Thursday, August 1, 2013 6:40:54 PM UTC-4, Patrick Moore wrote: If this is to be a national get together, can we have it in the exact geometrical center of the country? Just kidding about that, but somewhere more or less accessible to the majority of participants would be nice to consider. Colorado? Of course, if most of the interested parties are in the PNW, then that would over-weigh a national distribution. On Thu, Aug 1, 2013 at 1:53 PM, Andy Smitty Schmidt 54c...@gmail.com wrote: I wonder if we could find some sort of BB type place that would have rooms for those who want to sleep indoors and a lawn for those who want to throw a sleeping bag on the ground. The Coastal Mountain Sport Haus is in the coast range west of Portland, so not really near Bellingham. But if there's interest I'd be happy to call and at least find out if they could/would accommodate something like this. My vote regarding date would be earlier the better... to maximize the cool and green. Although by mid-July the berries are ripe. --Smitty -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- http://resumespecialties.com/index.html patric...@resumespecialties.com http://www.linkedin.com/in/patrickmooreresumespec/ Albuquerque, NM -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- -- Anne Paulson It isn't a contest. Enjoy the ride. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Crazy Idea: Riv National Jamboree
Chicago is the cheapest to fly to or from, but Denver ain't bad, and also has Amtrak service from the midwest and Bay Area. Denver has by far the most dramatic scenery and perhaps Rocky Mountain National Park for a base camp? Marc On Friday, August 2, 2013 2:38:40 AM UTC-4, Lee Chae wrote: I was thinking that way, too, Anne. I actually started out an exercise querying round-trip airline fares for various destinations from a variety of cities (SF, NYC, DC, Seattle, Portland, LA, San Diego, etc.). I thought I'd try Denver as a destination first. So far, it looks like Chicago O'Hare would be the cheapest average round-trip flight from most of the points of origin I checked. Lee On Thu, Aug 1, 2013 at 5:58 PM, Anne Paulson anne.p...@gmail.comjavascript: wrote: IF we are looking for geographical centers-- and I don't know that we are-- we should look for the geographical center of the rider's home towns, not the geographical center of the US. I suspect the geographical center of riders would be something like Denver. On Thu, Aug 1, 2013 at 5:50 PM, Marc Irwin irwi...@gmail.comjavascript: wrote: I was going to chime in on that also. If it is to be a national get together, picking a place in one distant corner will rule out a lot of people just because of the travel. It will be a regional get together as a result. As I mentioned earlier the geographical center of the country is in northern Kansas almost equidistant from Kansas City, Omaha and Denver. I'm not familiar with Omaha but Kansas City and Denver both have a lot going for them and a lot of very interesting riding to be chosen. Marc On Thursday, August 1, 2013 6:40:54 PM UTC-4, Patrick Moore wrote: If this is to be a national get together, can we have it in the exact geometrical center of the country? Just kidding about that, but somewhere more or less accessible to the majority of participants would be nice to consider. Colorado? Of course, if most of the interested parties are in the PNW, then that would over-weigh a national distribution. On Thu, Aug 1, 2013 at 1:53 PM, Andy Smitty Schmidt 54c...@gmail.com wrote: I wonder if we could find some sort of BB type place that would have rooms for those who want to sleep indoors and a lawn for those who want to throw a sleeping bag on the ground. The Coastal Mountain Sport Haus is in the coast range west of Portland, so not really near Bellingham. But if there's interest I'd be happy to call and at least find out if they could/would accommodate something like this. My vote regarding date would be earlier the better... to maximize the cool and green. Although by mid-July the berries are ripe. --Smitty -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- http://resumespecialties.com/index.html patric...@resumespecialties.com http://www.linkedin.com/in/patrickmooreresumespec/ Albuquerque, NM -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com javascript:. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.comjavascript: . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- -- Anne Paulson It isn't a contest. Enjoy the ride. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com javascript:. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.comjavascript: . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Crazy Idea: Riv National Jamboree
I think we are on the right track here...central means easy for most people to get, which probably wont be either geographic center or population center. Kansas, Indiana, Missouri and N, Dakota do not qualify as easy to get to, except maybe St Louis. If we're doing this in July it would be nice to have some routes with trees. Michael On Friday, August 2, 2013 7:32:27 AM UTC-4, Marc Irwin wrote: Chicago is the cheapest to fly to or from, but Denver ain't bad, and also has Amtrak service from the midwest and Bay Area. Denver has by far the most dramatic scenery and perhaps Rocky Mountain National Park for a base camp? Marc On Friday, August 2, 2013 2:38:40 AM UTC-4, Lee Chae wrote: I was thinking that way, too, Anne. I actually started out an exercise querying round-trip airline fares for various destinations from a variety of cities (SF, NYC, DC, Seattle, Portland, LA, San Diego, etc.). I thought I'd try Denver as a destination first. So far, it looks like Chicago O'Hare would be the cheapest average round-trip flight from most of the points of origin I checked. Lee On Thu, Aug 1, 2013 at 5:58 PM, Anne Paulson anne.p...@gmail.com wrote: IF we are looking for geographical centers-- and I don't know that we are-- we should look for the geographical center of the rider's home towns, not the geographical center of the US. I suspect the geographical center of riders would be something like Denver. On Thu, Aug 1, 2013 at 5:50 PM, Marc Irwin irwi...@gmail.com wrote: I was going to chime in on that also. If it is to be a national get together, picking a place in one distant corner will rule out a lot of people just because of the travel. It will be a regional get together as a result. As I mentioned earlier the geographical center of the country is in northern Kansas almost equidistant from Kansas City, Omaha and Denver. I'm not familiar with Omaha but Kansas City and Denver both have a lot going for them and a lot of very interesting riding to be chosen. Marc On Thursday, August 1, 2013 6:40:54 PM UTC-4, Patrick Moore wrote: If this is to be a national get together, can we have it in the exact geometrical center of the country? Just kidding about that, but somewhere more or less accessible to the majority of participants would be nice to consider. Colorado? Of course, if most of the interested parties are in the PNW, then that would over-weigh a national distribution. On Thu, Aug 1, 2013 at 1:53 PM, Andy Smitty Schmidt 54c...@gmail.com wrote: I wonder if we could find some sort of BB type place that would have rooms for those who want to sleep indoors and a lawn for those who want to throw a sleeping bag on the ground. The Coastal Mountain Sport Haus is in the coast range west of Portland, so not really near Bellingham. But if there's interest I'd be happy to call and at least find out if they could/would accommodate something like this. My vote regarding date would be earlier the better... to maximize the cool and green. Although by mid-July the berries are ripe. --Smitty -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- http://resumespecialties.com/index.html patric...@resumespecialties.com http://www.linkedin.com/in/patrickmooreresumespec/ Albuquerque, NM -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- -- Anne Paulson It isn't a contest. Enjoy the ride. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send
[RBW] Re: Crazy Idea: Riv National Jamboree
I hope this idea materializes. I'm jealous of all the meet-ups that I've been missing. With some advance planning, I might be able to finally join in. I'd be driving from north Texas, so the Denver (central US) suggestion has feasibility appeal for me. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Crazy Idea: Riv National Jamboree
Marc, I think Denver/Boulder is the best location put out. But as others have mentioned, it needs a critical mass of locals that want to do the leg-work to get it going. Majority of the conversation seems to be coming from Bay Area and PNW in that regard. On 8/2/13, Marc Irwin irwin7...@gmail.com wrote: Chicago is the cheapest to fly to or from, but Denver ain't bad, and also has Amtrak service from the midwest and Bay Area. Denver has by far the most dramatic scenery and perhaps Rocky Mountain National Park for a base camp? Marc On Friday, August 2, 2013 2:38:40 AM UTC-4, Lee Chae wrote: I was thinking that way, too, Anne. I actually started out an exercise querying round-trip airline fares for various destinations from a variety of cities (SF, NYC, DC, Seattle, Portland, LA, San Diego, etc.). I thought I'd try Denver as a destination first. So far, it looks like Chicago O'Hare would be the cheapest average round-trip flight from most of the points of origin I checked. Lee On Thu, Aug 1, 2013 at 5:58 PM, Anne Paulson anne.p...@gmail.comjavascript: wrote: IF we are looking for geographical centers-- and I don't know that we are-- we should look for the geographical center of the rider's home towns, not the geographical center of the US. I suspect the geographical center of riders would be something like Denver. On Thu, Aug 1, 2013 at 5:50 PM, Marc Irwin irwi...@gmail.comjavascript: wrote: I was going to chime in on that also. If it is to be a national get together, picking a place in one distant corner will rule out a lot of people just because of the travel. It will be a regional get together as a result. As I mentioned earlier the geographical center of the country is in northern Kansas almost equidistant from Kansas City, Omaha and Denver. I'm not familiar with Omaha but Kansas City and Denver both have a lot going for them and a lot of very interesting riding to be chosen. Marc On Thursday, August 1, 2013 6:40:54 PM UTC-4, Patrick Moore wrote: If this is to be a national get together, can we have it in the exact geometrical center of the country? Just kidding about that, but somewhere more or less accessible to the majority of participants would be nice to consider. Colorado? Of course, if most of the interested parties are in the PNW, then that would over-weigh a national distribution. On Thu, Aug 1, 2013 at 1:53 PM, Andy Smitty Schmidt 54c...@gmail.com wrote: I wonder if we could find some sort of BB type place that would have rooms for those who want to sleep indoors and a lawn for those who want to throw a sleeping bag on the ground. The Coastal Mountain Sport Haus is in the coast range west of Portland, so not really near Bellingham. But if there's interest I'd be happy to call and at least find out if they could/would accommodate something like this. My vote regarding date would be earlier the better... to maximize the cool and green. Although by mid-July the berries are ripe. --Smitty -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- http://resumespecialties.com/index.html patric...@resumespecialties.com http://www.linkedin.com/in/patrickmooreresumespec/ Albuquerque, NM -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com javascript:. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.comjavascript: . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- -- Anne Paulson It isn't a contest. Enjoy the ride. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com javascript:. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.comjavascript: . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to
Re: [RBW] Re: Crazy Idea: Riv National Jamboree
Another issue nobody wants to bring up is money. Being a financial advisor, I know nobody likes to talk about it so I will once. Making the possible accommodation and travel expenses as cheap as possible for a bottom line will include more people without having to discuss it. In other words, spend more if you want but... It's kinda like weight, you just don't discuss it in public. That being said, most state and national campgrounds provide group sites for around #2-5 per person per night with few restrictions on the number of people in the site. Marc On Friday, August 2, 2013 10:13:17 AM UTC-4, cyclot...@gmail.com wrote: Marc, I think Denver/Boulder is the best location put out. But as others have mentioned, it needs a critical mass of locals that want to do the leg-work to get it going. Majority of the conversation seems to be coming from Bay Area and PNW in that regard. On 8/2/13, Marc Irwin irwi...@gmail.com javascript: wrote: Chicago is the cheapest to fly to or from, but Denver ain't bad, and also has Amtrak service from the midwest and Bay Area. Denver has by far the most dramatic scenery and perhaps Rocky Mountain National Park for a base camp? Marc On Friday, August 2, 2013 2:38:40 AM UTC-4, Lee Chae wrote: I was thinking that way, too, Anne. I actually started out an exercise querying round-trip airline fares for various destinations from a variety of cities (SF, NYC, DC, Seattle, Portland, LA, San Diego, etc.). I thought I'd try Denver as a destination first. So far, it looks like Chicago O'Hare would be the cheapest average round-trip flight from most of the points of origin I checked. Lee On Thu, Aug 1, 2013 at 5:58 PM, Anne Paulson anne.p...@gmail.comjavascript: wrote: IF we are looking for geographical centers-- and I don't know that we are-- we should look for the geographical center of the rider's home towns, not the geographical center of the US. I suspect the geographical center of riders would be something like Denver. On Thu, Aug 1, 2013 at 5:50 PM, Marc Irwin irwi...@gmail.comjavascript: wrote: I was going to chime in on that also. If it is to be a national get together, picking a place in one distant corner will rule out a lot of people just because of the travel. It will be a regional get together as a result. As I mentioned earlier the geographical center of the country is in northern Kansas almost equidistant from Kansas City, Omaha and Denver. I'm not familiar with Omaha but Kansas City and Denver both have a lot going for them and a lot of very interesting riding to be chosen. Marc On Thursday, August 1, 2013 6:40:54 PM UTC-4, Patrick Moore wrote: If this is to be a national get together, can we have it in the exact geometrical center of the country? Just kidding about that, but somewhere more or less accessible to the majority of participants would be nice to consider. Colorado? Of course, if most of the interested parties are in the PNW, then that would over-weigh a national distribution. On Thu, Aug 1, 2013 at 1:53 PM, Andy Smitty Schmidt 54c...@gmail.com wrote: I wonder if we could find some sort of BB type place that would have rooms for those who want to sleep indoors and a lawn for those who want to throw a sleeping bag on the ground. The Coastal Mountain Sport Haus is in the coast range west of Portland, so not really near Bellingham. But if there's interest I'd be happy to call and at least find out if they could/would accommodate something like this. My vote regarding date would be earlier the better... to maximize the cool and green. Although by mid-July the berries are ripe. --Smitty -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- http://resumespecialties.com/index.html patric...@resumespecialties.com http://www.linkedin.com/in/patrickmooreresumespec/ Albuquerque, NM -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com javascript:. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.comjavascript:
Re: [RBW] Re: Crazy Idea: Riv National Jamboree
I think it all depends on the location. Riv Rally East 2011 was a hub and spoke setup because Wellsboro PA had great rides leading out of town. RRE 2012 (on the Great Allegheny Passage) was point to point because it seemed more appropriate. Both can be awesome, although for a large group like this I definitely would recommend a hub and spoke (with options for different types of rides)... Hopefully we can find the right location that gives us such options. BB On Thursday, August 1, 2013 9:24:00 PM UTC-4, Jim M. wrote: It sounds like some folks conceive of this outing as a point-to-point tour, while others think of it as setting up a base camp from which to do rides. That may be something else the group needs to decide. I'm good with either, though the logistics of lodging would be easier for the base camp option. jim m wc ca -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Crazy Idea: Riv National Jamboree
Hub and spoke certainly seems like the preferred design for a larger gathering of this type. Denver area would be great, but I'm not there so wouldn't be much help for organizing. I will be among the camping contingent. I hope this happens. --Smitty -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Crazy Idea: Riv National Jamboree
If we want to talk about money, campground fees will be dwarfed by airfare plus bike shipping, for those who have to fly. If I'm flying to Kansas, no cheap campground fees will make up for the expensive airfare to get myself and my bike to Kansas. If money is the issue, we should have the Rally on the west coast of the US, because the majority of Riv riders are on the west coast of the US judging by posts on this list. On Fri, Aug 2, 2013 at 7:45 AM, Marc Irwin irwin7...@gmail.com wrote: Another issue nobody wants to bring up is money. Being a financial advisor, I know nobody likes to talk about it so I will once. Making the possible accommodation and travel expenses as cheap as possible for a bottom line will include more people without having to discuss it. In other words, spend more if you want but... It's kinda like weight, you just don't discuss it in public. That being said, most state and national campgrounds provide group sites for around #2-5 per person per night with few restrictions on the number of people in the site. Marc On Friday, August 2, 2013 10:13:17 AM UTC-4, cyclot...@gmail.com wrote: Marc, I think Denver/Boulder is the best location put out. But as others have mentioned, it needs a critical mass of locals that want to do the leg-work to get it going. Majority of the conversation seems to be coming from Bay Area and PNW in that regard. On 8/2/13, Marc Irwin irwi...@gmail.com wrote: Chicago is the cheapest to fly to or from, but Denver ain't bad, and also has Amtrak service from the midwest and Bay Area. Denver has by far the most dramatic scenery and perhaps Rocky Mountain National Park for a base camp? Marc On Friday, August 2, 2013 2:38:40 AM UTC-4, Lee Chae wrote: I was thinking that way, too, Anne. I actually started out an exercise querying round-trip airline fares for various destinations from a variety of cities (SF, NYC, DC, Seattle, Portland, LA, San Diego, etc.). I thought I'd try Denver as a destination first. So far, it looks like Chicago O'Hare would be the cheapest average round-trip flight from most of the points of origin I checked. Lee On Thu, Aug 1, 2013 at 5:58 PM, Anne Paulson anne.p...@gmail.comjavascript: wrote: IF we are looking for geographical centers-- and I don't know that we are-- we should look for the geographical center of the rider's home towns, not the geographical center of the US. I suspect the geographical center of riders would be something like Denver. On Thu, Aug 1, 2013 at 5:50 PM, Marc Irwin irwi...@gmail.comjavascript: wrote: I was going to chime in on that also. If it is to be a national get together, picking a place in one distant corner will rule out a lot of people just because of the travel. It will be a regional get together as a result. As I mentioned earlier the geographical center of the country is in northern Kansas almost equidistant from Kansas City, Omaha and Denver. I'm not familiar with Omaha but Kansas City and Denver both have a lot going for them and a lot of very interesting riding to be chosen. Marc On Thursday, August 1, 2013 6:40:54 PM UTC-4, Patrick Moore wrote: If this is to be a national get together, can we have it in the exact geometrical center of the country? Just kidding about that, but somewhere more or less accessible to the majority of participants would be nice to consider. Colorado? Of course, if most of the interested parties are in the PNW, then that would over-weigh a national distribution. On Thu, Aug 1, 2013 at 1:53 PM, Andy Smitty Schmidt 54c...@gmail.com wrote: I wonder if we could find some sort of BB type place that would have rooms for those who want to sleep indoors and a lawn for those who want to throw a sleeping bag on the ground. The Coastal Mountain Sport Haus is in the coast range west of Portland, so not really near Bellingham. But if there's interest I'd be happy to call and at least find out if they could/would accommodate something like this. My vote regarding date would be earlier the better... to maximize the cool and green. Although by mid-July the berries are ripe. --Smitty -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- http://resumespecialties.com/index.html patric...@resumespecialties.com http://www.linkedin.com/in/patrickmooreresumespec/
Re: [RBW] Re: Crazy Idea: Riv National Jamboree
I live on the west coast and Im gonna shake it up and put a bid in for the Midwest, specifically the Minneapolis area, possibly Northwoods?I bet it would be pretty good up there in the summer except for the skeeters. one bid for the Midwest! -Mike On Thu, Aug 1, 2013 at 11:38 PM, Lee Chae leec...@stanford.edu wrote: I was thinking that way, too, Anne. I actually started out an exercise querying round-trip airline fares for various destinations from a variety of cities (SF, NYC, DC, Seattle, Portland, LA, San Diego, etc.). I thought I'd try Denver as a destination first. So far, it looks like Chicago O'Hare would be the cheapest average round-trip flight from most of the points of origin I checked. Lee On Thu, Aug 1, 2013 at 5:58 PM, Anne Paulson anne.paul...@gmail.comwrote: IF we are looking for geographical centers-- and I don't know that we are-- we should look for the geographical center of the rider's home towns, not the geographical center of the US. I suspect the geographical center of riders would be something like Denver. On Thu, Aug 1, 2013 at 5:50 PM, Marc Irwin irwin7...@gmail.com wrote: I was going to chime in on that also. If it is to be a national get together, picking a place in one distant corner will rule out a lot of people just because of the travel. It will be a regional get together as a result. As I mentioned earlier the geographical center of the country is in northern Kansas almost equidistant from Kansas City, Omaha and Denver. I'm not familiar with Omaha but Kansas City and Denver both have a lot going for them and a lot of very interesting riding to be chosen. Marc On Thursday, August 1, 2013 6:40:54 PM UTC-4, Patrick Moore wrote: If this is to be a national get together, can we have it in the exact geometrical center of the country? Just kidding about that, but somewhere more or less accessible to the majority of participants would be nice to consider. Colorado? Of course, if most of the interested parties are in the PNW, then that would over-weigh a national distribution. On Thu, Aug 1, 2013 at 1:53 PM, Andy Smitty Schmidt 54c...@gmail.com wrote: I wonder if we could find some sort of BB type place that would have rooms for those who want to sleep indoors and a lawn for those who want to throw a sleeping bag on the ground. The Coastal Mountain Sport Haus is in the coast range west of Portland, so not really near Bellingham. But if there's interest I'd be happy to call and at least find out if they could/would accommodate something like this. My vote regarding date would be earlier the better... to maximize the cool and green. Although by mid-July the berries are ripe. --Smitty -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- http://resumespecialties.com/index.html patric...@resumespecialties.com http://www.linkedin.com/in/patrickmooreresumespec/ Albuquerque, NM -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- -- Anne Paulson It isn't a contest. Enjoy the ride. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email
Re: [RBW] Re: Crazy Idea: Riv National Jamboree
I'll tolerate camping if I need to to be where I want to be but would take a nice hotel room given the option. Just weighing in! On Thu, Aug 1, 2013 at 1:01 PM, Peter Morgano uscpeter11...@gmail.comwrote: Agreed, I love a nice long ride but there had better be a shower and comfy bed on the other side. Even as a boy scout I hated camping. I just don't get the appeal but to each their own. On Thu, Aug 1, 2013 at 12:55 PM, Steve Palincsar palin...@his.com wrote: On 08/01/2013 12:44 PM, Montclair BobbyB wrote: You know, I should have anticipated a response from you, Steve :) First, I did include rideability in my location criteria... I should probably have also included cultural/historical significance, too. For example, the Great Allegheny Passage has the romance of old train lines, industrial revolution history and massive tunnels built through mountains... I'd call that scenic beauty, but to each his own. Agreed, definitely scenic beauty, but perhaps not grandeur in the sense of the sublime. For the record I did list lodging before camping... I love to camp, but equally enjoy a comfy bed in a charming inn, I clarified that basically for the S24O, camping-obsessed Riv community. Seems like camping is all you hear about on the RBW list, and some of us do not camp. And as for this nonsense of being eaten by wolves, they will always go after younger meat... you've got nothing to worry about :) Epic and adventure do not have to mean you're risking your life, as Rapha et al. would have you believe. Again, a clarification aimed at others. You do a very civilized event without the threat of being eaten by wolves or camping. :-) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscribe@**googlegroups.comrbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com . To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.**comrbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/**group/rbw-owners-bunchhttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch . For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/**groups/opt_outhttps://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out . -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Crazy Idea: Riv National Jamboree
I think the consensus is to find a destination that allows for those who want a nice bed to have a nice bed and for those who want to camp to camp. On Fri, Aug 2, 2013 at 10:58 AM, Steven Frederick stl...@gmail.com wrote: I'll tolerate camping if I need to to be where I want to be but would take a nice hotel room given the option. Just weighing in! On Thu, Aug 1, 2013 at 1:01 PM, Peter Morgano uscpeter11...@gmail.comwrote: Agreed, I love a nice long ride but there had better be a shower and comfy bed on the other side. Even as a boy scout I hated camping. I just don't get the appeal but to each their own. On Thu, Aug 1, 2013 at 12:55 PM, Steve Palincsar palin...@his.comwrote: On 08/01/2013 12:44 PM, Montclair BobbyB wrote: You know, I should have anticipated a response from you, Steve :) First, I did include rideability in my location criteria... I should probably have also included cultural/historical significance, too. For example, the Great Allegheny Passage has the romance of old train lines, industrial revolution history and massive tunnels built through mountains... I'd call that scenic beauty, but to each his own. Agreed, definitely scenic beauty, but perhaps not grandeur in the sense of the sublime. For the record I did list lodging before camping... I love to camp, but equally enjoy a comfy bed in a charming inn, I clarified that basically for the S24O, camping-obsessed Riv community. Seems like camping is all you hear about on the RBW list, and some of us do not camp. And as for this nonsense of being eaten by wolves, they will always go after younger meat... you've got nothing to worry about :) Epic and adventure do not have to mean you're risking your life, as Rapha et al. would have you believe. Again, a clarification aimed at others. You do a very civilized event without the threat of being eaten by wolves or camping. :-) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscribe@**googlegroups.comrbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com . To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.**comrbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/**group/rbw-owners-bunchhttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch . For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/**groups/opt_outhttps://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out . -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- I want the kind of six pack you can't drink. -- Micah -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Crazy Idea: Riv National Jamboree
Uh, wolves go for the weak, sick, or slow, so generally the very young (the real reason I camp with my daughters) or the very old (still not sure how to handle that one should I be blessed to arrive there). Ahhh-- by then we'll be empty nesters, and my wife robbed the cradle (she's six month's older). Problem solved! Grin. Folks keep naming Colorado as a great place to meet (and it is), but I won't be doing any organizing of anything and our Colorado Contingent isn't responding much to the S24O call, so host lethargy should perhaps be a factor in weighing options. With abandon, Patrick On Friday, August 2, 2013 11:58:36 AM UTC-6, stevef wrote: I'll tolerate camping if I need to to be where I want to be but would take a nice hotel room given the option. Just weighing in! On Thu, Aug 1, 2013 at 1:01 PM, Peter Morgano uscpet...@gmail.comjavascript: wrote: Agreed, I love a nice long ride but there had better be a shower and comfy bed on the other side. Even as a boy scout I hated camping. I just don't get the appeal but to each their own. On Thu, Aug 1, 2013 at 12:55 PM, Steve Palincsar pali...@his.comjavascript: wrote: On 08/01/2013 12:44 PM, Montclair BobbyB wrote: You know, I should have anticipated a response from you, Steve :) First, I did include rideability in my location criteria... I should probably have also included cultural/historical significance, too. For example, the Great Allegheny Passage has the romance of old train lines, industrial revolution history and massive tunnels built through mountains... I'd call that scenic beauty, but to each his own. Agreed, definitely scenic beauty, but perhaps not grandeur in the sense of the sublime. For the record I did list lodging before camping... I love to camp, but equally enjoy a comfy bed in a charming inn, I clarified that basically for the S24O, camping-obsessed Riv community. Seems like camping is all you hear about on the RBW list, and some of us do not camp. And as for this nonsense of being eaten by wolves, they will always go after younger meat... you've got nothing to worry about :) Epic and adventure do not have to mean you're risking your life, as Rapha et al. would have you believe. Again, a clarification aimed at others. You do a very civilized event without the threat of being eaten by wolves or camping. :-) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@**googlegroups.com javascript:. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.**comjavascript: . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/**group/rbw-owners-bunchhttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch . For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/**groups/opt_outhttps://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out . -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com javascript:. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.comjavascript: . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Crazy Idea: Riv National Jamboree
I'm the wrong guy to lead the charge here (trust me on that) but I would certainly lend my mass to the pursuit of criticality (read that: will help organize and plan) and would love to meet y'all. Jim in Boulder On Friday, August 2, 2013 8:13:17 AM UTC-6, cyclot...@gmail.com wrote: Marc, I think Denver/Boulder is the best location put out. But as others have mentioned, it needs a critical mass of locals that want to do the leg-work to get it going. Majority of the conversation seems to be coming from Bay Area and PNW in that regard. On 8/2/13, Marc Irwin irwi...@gmail.com javascript: wrote: Chicago is the cheapest to fly to or from, but Denver ain't bad, and also has Amtrak service from the midwest and Bay Area. Denver has by far the most dramatic scenery and perhaps Rocky Mountain National Park for a base camp? Marc On Friday, August 2, 2013 2:38:40 AM UTC-4, Lee Chae wrote: I was thinking that way, too, Anne. I actually started out an exercise querying round-trip airline fares for various destinations from a variety of cities (SF, NYC, DC, Seattle, Portland, LA, San Diego, etc.). I thought I'd try Denver as a destination first. So far, it looks like Chicago O'Hare would be the cheapest average round-trip flight from most of the points of origin I checked. Lee On Thu, Aug 1, 2013 at 5:58 PM, Anne Paulson anne.p...@gmail.comjavascript: wrote: IF we are looking for geographical centers-- and I don't know that we are-- we should look for the geographical center of the rider's home towns, not the geographical center of the US. I suspect the geographical center of riders would be something like Denver. On Thu, Aug 1, 2013 at 5:50 PM, Marc Irwin irwi...@gmail.comjavascript: wrote: I was going to chime in on that also. If it is to be a national get together, picking a place in one distant corner will rule out a lot of people just because of the travel. It will be a regional get together as a result. As I mentioned earlier the geographical center of the country is in northern Kansas almost equidistant from Kansas City, Omaha and Denver. I'm not familiar with Omaha but Kansas City and Denver both have a lot going for them and a lot of very interesting riding to be chosen. Marc On Thursday, August 1, 2013 6:40:54 PM UTC-4, Patrick Moore wrote: If this is to be a national get together, can we have it in the exact geometrical center of the country? Just kidding about that, but somewhere more or less accessible to the majority of participants would be nice to consider. Colorado? Of course, if most of the interested parties are in the PNW, then that would over-weigh a national distribution. On Thu, Aug 1, 2013 at 1:53 PM, Andy Smitty Schmidt 54c...@gmail.com wrote: I wonder if we could find some sort of BB type place that would have rooms for those who want to sleep indoors and a lawn for those who want to throw a sleeping bag on the ground. The Coastal Mountain Sport Haus is in the coast range west of Portland, so not really near Bellingham. But if there's interest I'd be happy to call and at least find out if they could/would accommodate something like this. My vote regarding date would be earlier the better... to maximize the cool and green. Although by mid-July the berries are ripe. --Smitty -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- http://resumespecialties.com/index.html patric...@resumespecialties.com http://www.linkedin.com/in/patrickmooreresumespec/ Albuquerque, NM -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com javascript:. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.comjavascript: . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- -- Anne Paulson It isn't a contest. Enjoy the ride. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group.
Re: [RBW] Re: Crazy Idea: Riv National Jamboree
I don't know what all is involved in one of these gatherings, or what prep I could do from ABQ, some 450 miles south of Denver, but if such an event be planned for Denver, I am willing to help with whatever it is that is doable from a distance if the event should be scheduled for our rough N-S axis. Mother, clients, and daughter permitting, I would come. On Fri, Aug 2, 2013 at 12:39 PM, Jim jamesfek...@gmail.com wrote: I'm the wrong guy to lead the charge here (trust me on that) but I would certainly lend my mass to the pursuit of criticality (read that: will help organize and plan) and would love to meet y'all. Jim in Boulder On Friday, August 2, 2013 8:13:17 AM UTC-6, cyclot...@gmail.com wrote: Marc, I think Denver/Boulder is the best location put out. But as others have mentioned, it needs a critical mass of locals that want to do the leg-work to get it going. Majority of the conversation seems to be coming from Bay Area and PNW in that regard. On 8/2/13, Marc Irwin irwi...@gmail.com wrote: Chicago is the cheapest to fly to or from, but Denver ain't bad, and also has Amtrak service from the midwest and Bay Area. Denver has by far the most dramatic scenery and perhaps Rocky Mountain National Park for a base camp? Marc On Friday, August 2, 2013 2:38:40 AM UTC-4, Lee Chae wrote: I was thinking that way, too, Anne. I actually started out an exercise querying round-trip airline fares for various destinations from a variety of cities (SF, NYC, DC, Seattle, Portland, LA, San Diego, etc.). I thought I'd try Denver as a destination first. So far, it looks like Chicago O'Hare would be the cheapest average round-trip flight from most of the points of origin I checked. Lee On Thu, Aug 1, 2013 at 5:58 PM, Anne Paulson anne.p...@gmail.com**javascript: wrote: IF we are looking for geographical centers-- and I don't know that we are-- we should look for the geographical center of the rider's home towns, not the geographical center of the US. I suspect the geographical center of riders would be something like Denver. On Thu, Aug 1, 2013 at 5:50 PM, Marc Irwin irwi...@gmail.comjavascript:** wrote: I was going to chime in on that also. If it is to be a national get together, picking a place in one distant corner will rule out a lot of people just because of the travel. It will be a regional get together as a result. As I mentioned earlier the geographical center of the country is in northern Kansas almost equidistant from Kansas City, Omaha and Denver. I'm not familiar with Omaha but Kansas City and Denver both have a lot going for them and a lot of very interesting riding to be chosen. Marc On Thursday, August 1, 2013 6:40:54 PM UTC-4, Patrick Moore wrote: If this is to be a national get together, can we have it in the exact geometrical center of the country? Just kidding about that, but somewhere more or less accessible to the majority of participants would be nice to consider. Colorado? Of course, if most of the interested parties are in the PNW, then that would over-weigh a national distribution. On Thu, Aug 1, 2013 at 1:53 PM, Andy Smitty Schmidt 54c...@gmail.com wrote: I wonder if we could find some sort of BB type place that would have rooms for those who want to sleep indoors and a lawn for those who want to throw a sleeping bag on the ground. The Coastal Mountain Sport Haus is in the coast range west of Portland, so not really near Bellingham. But if there's interest I'd be happy to call and at least find out if they could/would accommodate something like this. My vote regarding date would be earlier the better... to maximize the cool and green. Although by mid-July the berries are ripe. --Smitty -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@**googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/** group/rbw-owners-bunch http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/** groups/opt_out https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- http://resumespecialties.com/**index.htmlhttp://resumespecialties.com/index.html patric...@resumespecialties.**com http://www.linkedin.com/in/**patrickmooreresumespec/http://www.linkedin.com/in/patrickmooreresumespec/ Albuquerque, NM -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to
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Vote for CO also. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Crazy Idea: Riv National Jamboree
Majority of the conversation seems to be coming from Bay Area and PNW in that regard. Ahhh I'd have suggested Los Angeles but I just figured Hollywood and Vine would be to gritty... then again maybe some would like a Riv urban jamboree, we could do the home of the stars tour. Did I just do a Steve P. thing there? Seriously, most of the suggestions are on my top 5 list of places to ride a bike, I tend to favor the PNW, and PDX seems like a reasonable place as any, hint, hint, PDXers get ready to make a strong bid... but any of the a fore mentioned locations work for this Riv-rider, Bellingham works and Franklyn's description of the the San Juan islands sounds ideal, San Francisco no problem you want places to ride this is where bikes like ours were born and breed. And the idea of Colorado well after seeing Deacon's photographs...this is fun! ~Hugh -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Crazy Idea: Riv National Jamboree
It's not a crazy idea. I have been involved in similar plans before. It is really important to establish a date and place early and, as was mentioned geography can make a difference. FYI the Geographical Center of the Conterminous Stateshttps://www.google.com/maps/preview?hl=en#!q=Geographic+Center+of+the+Conterminous%E2%80%A6data=!1m4!1m3!1d261933!2d-98.3272877!3d39.9730304!4m15!2m14!1m13!1s0x0%3A0xde5763fad96b22b3!3m8!1m3!1d261933!2d-98.3272877!3d39.9730304!3m2!1i819!2i514!4f13.1!4m2!3d39.8283134!4d-98.5796356is a park near Smith Center KS almost equidistant from Omaha, Kansas City and Denver. Marc On Wednesday, July 31, 2013 10:40:24 AM UTC-4, Liesl wrote: Do you think we could do it? Plan it out far enough ahead of time (like a year), figure out a place that people from far way and not the whole summer to ride can get to by plane or train or car and figure out how to get their bikes there...a place with good riding country...an organizing group that's local...I just think it would be so utterly fantastic to meet everyone and ride and sit around a campfire. I used to do this kind of thing back in my motorcycling days and made some very dear friends that i'd only see once a year or two. Whatcha'll think? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Crazy Idea: Riv National Jamboree
good to see some excitement! My guess is that just about anywhere besides our own respective home states would involve some sort of driving/flying/training--so as long as it's near a major airport, etc, location actually is less critical than one might think. That said, location has to have a critical mass of local organizers. It might be, given some folks are jazzed, that we let this thread go long enough to gather ideas, have committee members (and please oh please come up with an alternate term because that sounds way too much like work) and then move to an off-list group that takes it further and reports back with updates. Seems July 13-14, 2014 is in contention. One question could be for those interested: early summer, mid summer, late summer? I'm guessing we might not have a lot of folks (for example, teachers) going for fall? Seems Bellingham and Colorado Springs are in contention. I would also think that Bay Area—perhaps Marin?—could be a contender. Would be great to have as many Riv staff there as want to be there but not be a time or financial burden on them (cause I think of them more as guests of honor) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Crazy Idea: Riv National Jamboree
I would be an especially poor organizer, but I would love to participate. bidding system seems like a good idea but we should settle on a date and location early while the idea has some momentum. Michael Allen On Wednesday, July 31, 2013 7:40:24 AM UTC-7, Liesl wrote: Do you think we could do it? Plan it out far enough ahead of time (like a year), figure out a place that people from far way and not the whole summer to ride can get to by plane or train or car and figure out how to get their bikes there...a place with good riding country...an organizing group that's local...I just think it would be so utterly fantastic to meet everyone and ride and sit around a campfire. I used to do this kind of thing back in my motorcycling days and made some very dear friends that i'd only see once a year or two. Whatcha'll think? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Crazy Idea: Riv National Jamboree
Oh! I like this idea. Either Bellingham or Colorado Springs both work well for me (As well as any two places I could think of, actually. East coast would be pretty difficult.) A couple of suggestions: 1. Plans/itineraries, if this actually happens, should be firmed up by early- to mid-winter (ie.: Feb 1), in order for people to plan vacation time around it. That's partly just the reality for us working stiffs, but also is the time when many other events and activities (like organized bike tours and permitted rivers) hold their lotteries or have their entry deadlines for summer activities. At some point, I'd have to choose one or the other. 2. I'd love it if some of the (presumed) activities/rides could be kid-friendly. So longer rides or days might need SAG support. 3. It would be nice to do it where camping is an easy option, to keep costs down, but where there are hotel accommodations too, for those who prefer. Kind of dictates doing it in a smaller satellite community or rural area, where you wouldn't have to worry about locking your gear or bike all the time, either! 4. For the above two reasons, a hub-and-spoke type ride-based event might be nice, to accommodate as many personalities and riding tastes as possible. It sure doesn't need to be an endurance, count-the-miles sort of thing, like a regular bike tour, and not having to pack up every day would give us more opportunity to meet and mingle with each other. 5. I think there should be a small entry fee, which could go to providing air fare to get Grant and possibly a couple other Riv employees there. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Crazy Idea: Riv National Jamboree
I think it's a great idea. Speaking from this person's perspective, the things (to me) that make for a good location for a rally: - First and foremost, the allure of the location (in terms of adventure, natural beauty and rideability). If it lacks grandeur, so will the ride (I'm afraid) - It's driveable (which we of course can't expect for a national rally)... some will obviously be able to drive; others will need to fly and ship bikes. But if we can somehow maximize attendance with the least amount of travel hassle, that's important - A location with basic amenities (ie lodging/camping, restaurants/provisions, emergency services, etc.) - Location is well suited to serve either as a hub (for out and back day-rides), or can accommodate point-to-point, self-supported travel (with provision for shuttle service IF necessary, or a route that loops on itself). Logistics cannot be the weak point; one poorly coordinated shuttle pickup can ruin your whole day. - It's great to have local help from someone who knows the area and who has connections to help out in a pinch. I stand by the first rule... The location must be outstanding and offer adventure, beauty and rideability. Let's kick around some ideas. Peace, Bobby On Thursday, August 1, 2013 10:52:14 AM UTC-4, Liesl wrote: good to see some excitement! My guess is that just about anywhere besides our own respective home states would involve some sort of driving/flying/training--so as long as it's near a major airport, etc, location actually is less critical than one might think. That said, location has to have a critical mass of local organizers. It might be, given some folks are jazzed, that we let this thread go long enough to gather ideas, have committee members (and please oh please come up with an alternate term because that sounds way too much like work) and then move to an off-list group that takes it further and reports back with updates. Seems July 13-14, 2014 is in contention. One question could be for those interested: early summer, mid summer, late summer? I'm guessing we might not have a lot of folks (for example, teachers) going for fall? Seems Bellingham and Colorado Springs are in contention. I would also think that Bay Area—perhaps Marin?—could be a contender. Would be great to have as many Riv staff there as want to be there but not be a time or financial burden on them (cause I think of them more as guests of honor) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Crazy Idea: Riv National Jamboree
Bay Area is always a good place in the summer. What better place to have a Rivendell Jamboree then in the place where Rivendell Bicycle Works. I place my bid for China Camp beautiful campground that leaves the option of plenty of different level riding abilities for those not looking to go crazy. Take the ferry and ride super short or take the road and ride to the campgrounds. The morning afterwords there's prime dirt loops around the area. s for more official statement. Manny's Bid. China Camp, 101 Peacock Gap Trail, San Rafael, CA 94901 July 13-14 On Thursday, August 1, 2013 7:52:14 AM UTC-7, Liesl wrote: good to see some excitement! My guess is that just about anywhere besides our own respective home states would involve some sort of driving/flying/training--so as long as it's near a major airport, etc, location actually is less critical than one might think. That said, location has to have a critical mass of local organizers. It might be, given some folks are jazzed, that we let this thread go long enough to gather ideas, have committee members (and please oh please come up with an alternate term because that sounds way too much like work) and then move to an off-list group that takes it further and reports back with updates. Seems July 13-14, 2014 is in contention. One question could be for those interested: early summer, mid summer, late summer? I'm guessing we might not have a lot of folks (for example, teachers) going for fall? Seems Bellingham and Colorado Springs are in contention. I would also think that Bay Area—perhaps Marin?—could be a contender. Would be great to have as many Riv staff there as want to be there but not be a time or financial burden on them (cause I think of them more as guests of honor) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Crazy Idea: Riv National Jamboree
On 08/01/2013 11:29 AM, Montclair BobbyB wrote: I think it's a great idea. Speaking from this person's perspective, the things (to me) that make for a good location for a rally: - First and foremost, the allure of the location (in terms of adventure, natural beauty and rideability). If it lacks grandeur, so will the ride (I'm afraid) Depends on what you mean by grandeur. There's certainly nothing like the Grand Canyon or Niagra Falls (both high on the grandeur scale) in Salisbury MD, but the League Annual Rally in 1989 was one of the most successful bike rallies of all time, and the riding was so well regarded the Seagull Century kicked off shortly afterwards. I wouldn't consider the Great Allegheny Passage to be especially rich in scenic grandeur either, but it's one of the nicest places to tour that I know of. - It's driveable (which we of course can't expect for a national rally)... some will obviously be able to drive; others will need to fly and ship bikes. But if we can somehow maximize attendance with the least amount of travel hassle, that's important - A location with basic amenities (ie lodging/camping, restaurants/provisions, emergency services, etc.) And note that lodging is NOT synonymous with camping. For some, clearly camping is the way to go, but there are many others whose camping days are long since over. - Location is well suited to serve either as a hub (for out and back day-rides), or can accommodate point-to-point, self-supported travel (with provision for shuttle service IF necessary, or a route that loops on itself). Logistics cannot be the weak point; one poorly coordinated shuttle pickup can ruin your whole day. - It's great to have local help from someone who knows the area and who has connections to help out in a pinch. I stand by the first rule... The location must be outstanding and offer adventure, beauty and rideability. Let's kick around some ideas. And adventure doesn't necessarily mean you have a good chance of dying and being eaten by wolves. We're not talking Rapha-style epic here. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Crazy Idea: Riv National Jamboree
I really like the way this is developing. To me central has nothing to do with geography and everything to do with access. From where I am in Vermont it's easier to get to Seattle than it is to Ashville, even though it's three times as far. I like the idea of the PNW. As much as I love the Bay area ( and have a son granddaughter there) I think the Bay area crowd could also travel a bit. Weakening cliques would be helpful. To pull this off the destination will need 4 or 5 people in the area who are willing to put some significant amount of work into it. Lodging - getting a group rate at a local hotel or resort, prepared to deal with all the bikes, and a nearby campground would be ideal. People like Adventure Cycling or a tour agent might be helpful in this regard. I'm excited about the prospect of pulling this off. Michael On Thursday, August 1, 2013 11:49:12 AM UTC-4, Steve Palincsar wrote: On 08/01/2013 11:29 AM, Montclair BobbyB wrote: I think it's a great idea. Speaking from this person's perspective, the things (to me) that make for a good location for a rally: - First and foremost, the allure of the location (in terms of adventure, natural beauty and rideability). If it lacks grandeur, so will the ride (I'm afraid) Depends on what you mean by grandeur. There's certainly nothing like the Grand Canyon or Niagra Falls (both high on the grandeur scale) in Salisbury MD, but the League Annual Rally in 1989 was one of the most successful bike rallies of all time, and the riding was so well regarded the Seagull Century kicked off shortly afterwards. I wouldn't consider the Great Allegheny Passage to be especially rich in scenic grandeur either, but it's one of the nicest places to tour that I know of. - It's driveable (which we of course can't expect for a national rally)... some will obviously be able to drive; others will need to fly and ship bikes. But if we can somehow maximize attendance with the least amount of travel hassle, that's important - A location with basic amenities (ie lodging/camping, restaurants/provisions, emergency services, etc.) And note that lodging is NOT synonymous with camping. For some, clearly camping is the way to go, but there are many others whose camping days are long since over. - Location is well suited to serve either as a hub (for out and back day-rides), or can accommodate point-to-point, self-supported travel (with provision for shuttle service IF necessary, or a route that loops on itself). Logistics cannot be the weak point; one poorly coordinated shuttle pickup can ruin your whole day. - It's great to have local help from someone who knows the area and who has connections to help out in a pinch. I stand by the first rule... The location must be outstanding and offer adventure, beauty and rideability. Let's kick around some ideas. And adventure doesn't necessarily mean you have a good chance of dying and being eaten by wolves. We're not talking Rapha-style epic here. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
