[RBW] Re: Creaky Cranks, Cranky Cranker

2018-01-11 Thread Deacon Patrick
Of course the only chainring bolt I can’t replace with the torq wrench is the 
nutty behind the crank arm one. But 4/5ths is better than none!

With abandon,
Patrick

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[RBW] Re: Creaky Cranks, Cranky Cranker

2018-01-11 Thread Clayton.sf
I also really like the Torx CR bolts that Shimano specs on their mtb cranks. 
they tend to resist stripping better. (don't have link)

Clayton Scott
SF, CA

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[RBW] Re: Creaky Cranks, Cranky Cranker

2018-01-11 Thread Deacon Patrick
Ahh! You are a master of Google Foo, Shoji! Universal said the double FSA will 
work. Thank you!

With abandon,
Patrick

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[RBW] Re: Creaky Cranks, Cranky Cranker

2018-01-11 Thread Shoji Takahashi
Problem Solvers?
https://www.universalcycles.com/shopping/product_details.php?id=57410&category=50

Maybe these FSA? It looks like hex on one side and Torx on other. I haven't 
seen this IRL, so you'll need to confirm.
https://www.universalcycles.com/shopping/product_details.php?id=4903

Shoji

On Thursday, January 11, 2018 at 3:57:24 PM UTC-5, Deacon Patrick wrote:
>
> Shoji, I found those, but they are single chain-ring only — which I am 
> considering, but for now double is ideal. Anyone making doubles? 
>
> With abandon, 
> Patrick

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[RBW] Re: Creaky Cranks, Cranky Cranker

2018-01-11 Thread Deacon Patrick
Shoji, I found those, but they are single chain-ring only — which I am 
considering, but for now double is ideal. Anyone making doubles?

With abandon,
Patrick

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[RBW] Re: Creaky Cranks, Cranky Cranker

2018-01-11 Thread Shoji Takahashi
Hi Deacon,
Wolftooth sells 'em. Maybe others for less.
https://www.wolftoothcomponents.com/collections/chainring-bolts/products/set-of-5-chainring-bolts-nuts-for-1x

Good luck!
Shoji


On Thursday, January 11, 2018 at 3:39:08 PM UTC-5, Deacon Patrick wrote:
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> Clayton: link please? I would love allen on both sides!

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[RBW] Re: Creaky Cranks, Cranky Cranker

2018-01-11 Thread Deacon Patrick
Clayton: link please? I would love allen on both sides!

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[RBW] Re: Creaky Cranks, Cranky Cranker

2018-01-11 Thread Clayton.sf
There are bolts that use an allen on both ends. Quite a nice feature.

Clayton Scott
SF, CA

On Thursday, January 11, 2018 at 10:41:31 AM UTC-8, Garth wrote:
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>
> Just get a new crank , almost anything is better than an XD.   Even the 
> modest Origin8 110 BCD single/double crank for $50 is better than those. 
>
> As for those silly chainring "devices" that don't qualify as a "tool" 
> because tools work, the Park ones at least  are so ill fitting that I 
> can see how people would strip the bolt.  It's a "devise" of futility, and 
> Park keeps making the same darn thing, unimproved, decade after decade 
> after decade.  
>
> Yeah ... be done with it  new crank.
>

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[RBW] Re: Creaky Cranks, Cranky Cranker

2018-01-11 Thread Garth

Just get a new crank , almost anything is better than an XD.   Even the 
modest Origin8 110 BCD single/double crank for $50 is better than those. 

As for those silly chainring "devices" that don't qualify as a "tool" 
because tools work, the Park ones at least  are so ill fitting that I 
can see how people would strip the bolt.  It's a "devise" of futility, and 
Park keeps making the same darn thing, unimproved, decade after decade 
after decade.  

Yeah ... be done with it  new crank.

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[RBW] Re: Creaky Cranks, Cranky Cranker

2018-01-10 Thread Jeffrey Arita
Echoing lum gim fong: Check each and all components.  Might be cracked.  
Maybe even the bb shell/chainstay/downtube area.  I had a creaking sound 
coming from the bb area of my Surly Cross-Check.  Finally found it: 
Relatively loose square taper bb (Velo-Orange).  Once I even had 
about-to-be cracked chainring bolts on my mountain bike crankset!  They 
were those stupid-light alloy types (FSA-brand IIRC).  Immediately replaced 
with steel.

As far as loosening/tightening, lum gim fong I think is referring to this:


Shimano or Park make them.  They work pretty well.  BTW: I realize grease 
is probably perfectly fine (I used it for almost all threads up til now) 
but I recently switched to Finish Line Anti-Seize.  I switched when I was 
building up two Divide bikes (his and hers) early last year.the torque 
range for the chainring bolts on the Shimano SLX crankset were quite high, 
at least in my opinion.  That being said I didn't want to have future 
problems replacing the chainrings.  Ooops, now I just jinxed myself!!!

Good luck!

Jeff

On Wednesday, January 10, 2018 at 3:21:59 PM UTC-8, Deacon Patrick wrote:
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> Sugino cranks and those fiddly, hard to tighten, hard to loosen chainring 
> bolts. I’m swapping chainrings to play with fixed gear inches (loving 71” 
> after fifty miles of riding) and range possible between high and low gears. 
> I lube things well with Paul grease. 
>
> Ideas for making this job easier? Ideas for tightening chainring bolts and 
> still being able to get them apart? 
>
> I’m wondering if White Industries Square Taper Road Cranks might be the 
> way to go when it’s time to replace my cranks. Experience with them? 
>
> With abandon, 
> Patrick 
>
> www.CredoFamily.org 
> www.MindYourHeadCoop.org

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