Re: [RBW] Re: Every bike has a story.
Hope this doesn't strike folks as too curmudgeonly. These specific model groups are fine but I hope everyone is putting their photos on the main Rivendell Flickr group. Using tags in the main group will allow us to find the images of make specific Rivendells in the main group. Hope this doesn't strike folks as too curmudgeonly. -Jimd ...you kids get off my lawn. On Feb 27, 2011, at 3:34 AM Feb 27, 2011, Marty wrote: Two great reasons to add another Rivendell-related Flickr group: http://www.flickr.com/groups/roadstandard/ On Feb 27, 3:56 am, Bruce fullylug...@yahoo.com wrote: Jason: Like you, my '95 Road Std came as a frame and two forks set a couple of years ago. I saw how a prior owner had built it up, and wanted something a little different. Using the recently introduced Tektro 556 brakes, I converted the bike to a 650B, which lets me run bigger rubber. Also like you, I went with downtube shifters, in this case Silvers from RBW. I had a Leather saddle that was perfect in comfort but had overstretched (by a prior owner) but which was salvaged by putting in a longer tension bolt. It has stopped stretching and given many miles of useful service since making that fix. Our bikes are the same color and I list my components next to yours below to compare. Nice bikes :) From: J L subfas...@gmail.com To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Sent: Sat, February 26, 2011 11:33:11 PM Subject: [RBW] Every bike has a story. I think every bike has a story and a Rivendell has a special quality that not many other bicycles have: they take on the character of their owners. Really, My hope is that this post will inspire others to detail their setups and bicycle back stories. 1996 Road Standard, stock blue color 54cm 1995 54.5 cm Headset - Shimano 600 Chris King 2 nut Stem - Nitto Pearl 10cm Nitto Dynamic 10 cm Bars - Nitto Noodle 44cm Nitto Grand Randonneur model 135 Brake levers - Shimano 105 Shimano RSX Shifters - Suntour Sprint DT Silver DT Friction mode Brakes -Dura Ace 7700 -kool stop pads on front Tektro R556 Kool Stop Salmon front and rear Cranks -Dura Ace 7700 -170mmCampy Veloce triple 170mm Chainrings - Sugino 48t, Dura Ace 39t Veloce 52/42/30 Pedals - dual sided SPD MKS Sylvan Touring Wheels - 28h Dura ace 7700 to Mavic CXP-30 rims 32h Dura Ace Uniglide to Velocity Synergy rims. DB spokes Front Derailer - Dura Ace 7800 Veloce triple Rear Derailer - Dura Ace 7700 triple Veloce triple Cassette - 9 speed 11-327 speed Uniglide 12 - 28 Seat post - I don't remember. Titan 2 bolt aluminum Seat - Cheap flexy sport seat Selle Anatomica non watershed Seat bag - Timbuk2 Carradice zip roll Pump - Zefal frame pump Zefal frame pump Tires - Panaracer Pasela TG 700x28c Pascenti Pari-Moto 650 x 38 Bottle Cage - Stainless King Kage stainless V-O Moderniste http://tinyurl.com/5ss44eh-Photosethttp://www.flickr.com/photos/9535930@N07/4796054626/in/set-7215761214 ... -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners- bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en . -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Every bike has a story.
Two years ago we moved from Hong Kong Island to the New Territories. There is a bike path right beside my job that runs nearly to the new domicile and I decided that I would really like to begin commuting by bike again. I had a triathlon bike but it was unsuited to the needs of a commuter. I thought about reworking that bike with smaller wheels and longer reach brakes but by the time I did that I’d have spent a far amount of the cost of a new bike and as I hadn’t bought a new bike since 1997 I decided it was time especially since I’d wanted to do some touring again. To be honest, the Sam Hillborne was my 3rd or 4th choice. I was a bit put off by the 650B wheels on the Sam and the expanded geometry was problematic as well. I did not have the budget to replace this bike if it didn’t work out. So I wanted to go for the sure thing. When I was an undergraduate I had an old Dawes Galaxy that I bought used and rode for probably 10,000 miles. I loved the bike and tried to buy a new Galaxy frame. I know the new ones are welded and not brazed but the geometry is the same and it was the logical choice for me. I could not get the dealers in the UK to respond to an Email. My next choice was a Thorn Nomad frame from Saint John’s Cyclery in London but the person who deals with overseas sales there was on vacation. I looked at a Surly LHT but there were some things about the frame I didn’t like. I also talked to LSL Titanium in China to see if they would do a one off frame for me all to no avail. I have an extreme Shimano allergy. I wanted a frame and for because I avoid anything with the Shimano name on it if I can. Call me all the names you wish about or feel sorry for me but I’ve been that way since the 1970’s. I hated Shimano long before it was fashionable to do so. So, after a couple of months of searching I was reduced to a frame by VO or a Sam Hillborne or possible a NOS generic bike from a local bike shop that I didn’t trust. After looking the Sam Hillborne looked like the best fit for the budget, almost by default as the origional Galaxy was less expensive so I contacted Renaissance Cycles from the link Rivendell’s web page. I used Renaissance because I wanted to deviate from the build that Rivendell would be comfortable with in some ways and didn't want Grant to insist on a frame that I was a fraid would be too big. The bike arrived in July of 2009. I have ridden it maybe 9000 miles since then including a tour from Hong Kong to Shanghai last summer. It is my primary comutting bike. I agree that bikes take on the personality of their owners; more so when the owner builds the machine from the frame up because they then have the owners biases and preferences in the build. This bike’s build is quite eccentric. Grant probably would have had me on the 56 cm frame and wouldn’t have stocked the straight bars that I like. Build Specs Frame Fork: Sam Hillborne 52 cm Rims: Velocity Dyad 650b Hubs: DT Swiss 370 Tires: Maxy Fasty Headset: Tange Stem: Nitto Periscopa 80 cm Handlebars: Surly 1X1 54 cm riser Grips: Cork Barends: Ritchey Seat Post: Sugino Saddle: Brooks Professional Titanium rails Bottom Bracket: Tange Crank Sugino XD 600 – 172.5 - 26/38/48 Cassette Sram 13-30 8 speed (I think it may be an 11-30) Chain: KMC 8 speed Derailleurs: NOS Suntour XC-Pro Long cage rear 31.8 Clamp front Shifters: NOS SunTour XC-Pro 8 speed thumb shifters Brake levers: NOS SunTour XC-Pro Brakes: NOS Suntour XC-pro cantilevers (Now changed to Avid single digit 7 linear pull due to a malfunction) Pedals: VO touring with dual clips and straps Rack: Soma Deco Fenders: Esge Seat bag: Generic 1.7 litre Panniers: Brasil Briefcase Lights: BM/Sanyo Bottom Bracket dynamo (I had to make a special mount for this to fit as the wheel base is too long otherwise) On Feb 28, 9:07 am, Bruce fullylug...@yahoo.com wrote: Jason: No trouble with Pari-Motos, but no room for fenders between the chainstays. The is room at the fork, and seatstays, soa specially sculpted fender could be fit. Bruce From: JL subfas...@gmail.com To: RBW Owners Bunch rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Sent: Sun, February 27, 2011 2:24:57 PM Subject: [RBW] Re: Every bike has a story. Bruce, These bikes are nearly twins. Are there any width problems with the Pari-Motos at the chainstays? You ever run 650b with fenders on your bike? Jason On Feb 27, 1:56 am, Bruce fullylug...@yahoo.com wrote: Jason: Like you, my '95 Road Std came as a frame and two forks set a couple of years ago. I saw how a prior owner had built it up, and wanted something a little different. Using the recently introduced Tektro 556 brakes, I converted the bike to a 650B, which lets me run bigger rubber. Also like you, I went with downtube shifters, in this case Silvers from RBW. I had a Leather saddle that was perfect in comfort but had overstretched (by a prior owner) but which was salvaged by putting
[RBW] Re: Every bike has a story.
Two great reasons to add another Rivendell-related Flickr group: http://www.flickr.com/groups/roadstandard/ On Feb 27, 3:56 am, Bruce fullylug...@yahoo.com wrote: Jason: Like you, my '95 Road Std came as a frame and two forks set a couple of years ago. I saw how a prior owner had built it up, and wanted something a little different. Using the recently introduced Tektro 556 brakes, I converted the bike to a 650B, which lets me run bigger rubber. Also like you, I went with downtube shifters, in this case Silvers from RBW. I had a Leather saddle that was perfect in comfort but had overstretched (by a prior owner) but which was salvaged by putting in a longer tension bolt. It has stopped stretching and given many miles of useful service since making that fix. Our bikes are the same color and I list my components next to yours below to compare. Nice bikes :) From: J L subfas...@gmail.com To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Sent: Sat, February 26, 2011 11:33:11 PM Subject: [RBW] Every bike has a story. I think every bike has a story and a Rivendell has a special quality that not many other bicycles have: they take on the character of their owners. Really, My hope is that this post will inspire others to detail their setups and bicycle back stories. 1996 Road Standard, stock blue color 54cm 1995 54.5 cm Headset - Shimano 600 Chris King 2 nut Stem - Nitto Pearl 10cm Nitto Dynamic 10 cm Bars - Nitto Noodle 44cm Nitto Grand Randonneur model 135 Brake levers - Shimano 105 Shimano RSX Shifters - Suntour Sprint DT Silver DT Friction mode Brakes -Dura Ace 7700 -kool stop pads on front Tektro R556 Kool Stop Salmon front and rear Cranks -Dura Ace 7700 -170mm Campy Veloce triple 170mm Chainrings - Sugino 48t, Dura Ace 39t Veloce 52/42/30 Pedals - dual sided SPD MKS Sylvan Touring Wheels - 28h Dura ace 7700 to Mavic CXP-30 rims 32h Dura Ace Uniglide to Velocity Synergy rims. DB spokes Front Derailer - Dura Ace 7800 Veloce triple Rear Derailer - Dura Ace 7700 triple Veloce triple Cassette - 9 speed 11-32 7 speed Uniglide 12 - 28 Seat post - I don't remember. Titan 2 bolt aluminum Seat - Cheap flexy sport seat Selle Anatomica non watershed Seat bag - Timbuk2 Carradice zip roll Pump - Zefal frame pump Zefal frame pump Tires - Panaracer Pasela TG 700x28c Pascenti Pari-Moto 650 x 38 Bottle Cage - Stainless King Kage stainless V-O Moderniste http://tinyurl.com/5ss44eh-Photoset http://www.flickr.com/photos/9535930@N07/4796054626/in/set-7215761214... -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Every bike has a story.
Jason, It's certainly possible to fit fenders to a Rivendell Road Standard from this era (1995-1997) with 700x28c tires. Here's a photo of my bike (a 1996 model of the Road Standard) with Honjos and Pasela 700x28c tires: http://www.flickr.com/photos/37964304@N05/5432058115/ I've never experienced any problems with the set-up on my bike, but I probably wouldn't ride the bike on a muddy cyclocross course! The original product literature from Rivendell indicated that the Road Standard would accept fenders with a tire size of 32C. I frankly don't think this would be practical. The clearances on my bike with a 28C tire are quite close, although acceptable, but I certainly wouldn't attempt to fit a larger size tire. Jim Cloud Tucson, AZ On Feb 26, 10:33 pm, J L subfas...@gmail.com wrote: I think every bike has a story and a Rivendell has a special quality that not many other bicycles have: they take on the character of their owners. Really, it is like the bicycles develop a life of their own after a while. Here is a brief story, followed by photos, of one of my Rivendells: a 1996 road standard. My hope is that this post will inspire others to detail their setups and bicycle back stories. I bought the bike as a Frame/Fork plus extras a few years ago. It was disappointing at first to find out that this model, which uses 49mm brake reach, does not allow a true 28mm tire plus fender to fit. What seemed like a set back ended up being a large influence on the build of the bicycle. Initially I used a wheel set made up of Chris King hubs built with bladed spokes along with a Ritchey compact double crankset and other assorted parts. The gearing was too low on the 110bcd cranks and the hubs were too loud. I knew I needed to change things up. After looking around a bit and scouring my parts bin I came across the Dura Ace parts that are on the bicycle now. I had 9 speed Dura Ace brake/shifters on for a while but found that they fail too easily and are expensive to replace. I went back to friction shifting with the help of some Suntour Sprint DT shifters. Finally everything was cohesive on the bicycle and it felt more stable, fast, and fun than ever. Here is the current set up, because I know we all like the tiny details. I expect it will stay this way for a while: 1996 Road Standard, stock blue color 54cm Headset - Shimano 600 Stem - Nitto Pearl 10cm Bars - Nitto Noodle 44cm Brake levers - Shimano 105 Shifters - Suntour Sprint DT Brakes -Dura Ace 7700 -kool stop pads on front Cranks -Dura Ace 7700 -170mm Chainrings - Sugino 48t, Dura Ace 39t Pedals - dual sided SPD Wheels - 28h Dura ace 7700 to Mavic CXP-30 rims Front Derailer - Dura Ace 7800 Rear Derailer - Dura Ace 7700 triple Cassette - 9 speed 11-32 Seat post - I don't remember. Seat - Cheap flexy sport seat Seat bag - Timbuk2 Pump - Zefal frame pump Tires - Panaracer Pasela TG 700x28c Bottle Cage - Stainless King Kage http://tinyurl.com/5ss44eh- Photoset Jason -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Every bike has a story.
Jim It amazes me that you could fit a fender with 28mm tires. I stand corrected, It is possible, just not with my frame. Even on your bike the clearance for the fender is quite tight it really deforms the fender line. I wonder how much space you have there. I uploaded some photos to show the clearance on my bike. The front has enough room, mostly because the fork crown doesn't follow the line of the tire. The rear, however, has less than 5mm of space in between the tire and the brake bridge. My brake choice further limits my fender options. Brakes aside, 5mm is not enough room in my mind for a fender to be mounted appropriately. It has been my understanding that the literature about tire clearance in early Rivendell publications assumed that tires were not true to size. Panaracer, I know had sizing issues which have since been corrected. I mounted a Pasela 700x32 and there was about 1mm clearance under the brake bridge. I expected as much, yet it was interesting to have the sizing on those two tires be so precise (28mm measures 5mm below the bridge, 32mm measures 1mm below the bridge). I only used those 32mm tires on one ride, when the tire deformed with my added weight it rubbed on the brake pivot and brake bridge. I have a couple theories about just this issue: a) Pasela TG and Pasela standard tires measure different, however, logic dictates the the TG would be the smaller of the two because the extra material should prevent the rubber from expanding as much. Other 28mm tires measure to different sizes as well. b) Different frame sizes offered slightly different clearance due to geometry, the flat part of the brake bridge runs perpendicular to the seat stay. As the frame size increases the angle between the the bottom of the brake bridge and the tire contact point increases. This make sense if you consider that the front and rear clearance on a frame are different, yet use the same brake reach. Great looking bike by the way. I really like the color. Jason On Feb 27, 8:52 am, Jim Cloud cloud...@aol.com wrote: Jason, It's certainly possible to fit fenders to a Rivendell Road Standard from this era (1995-1997) with 700x28c tires. Here's a photo of my bike (a 1996 model of the Road Standard) with Honjos and Pasela 700x28c tires: http://www.flickr.com/photos/37964304@N05/5432058115/ I've never experienced any problems with the set-up on my bike, but I probably wouldn't ride the bike on a muddy cyclocross course! The original product literature from Rivendell indicated that the Road Standard would accept fenders with a tire size of 32C. I frankly don't think this would be practical. The clearances on my bike with a 28C tire are quite close, although acceptable, but I certainly wouldn't attempt to fit a larger size tire. Jim Cloud Tucson, AZ On Feb 26, 10:33 pm, J L subfas...@gmail.com wrote: I think every bike has a story and a Rivendell has a special quality that not many other bicycles have: they take on the character of their owners. Really, it is like the bicycles develop a life of their own after a while. Here is a brief story, followed by photos, of one of my Rivendells: a 1996 road standard. My hope is that this post will inspire others to detail their setups and bicycle back stories. I bought the bike as a Frame/Fork plus extras a few years ago. It was disappointing at first to find out that this model, which uses 49mm brake reach, does not allow a true 28mm tire plus fender to fit. What seemed like a set back ended up being a large influence on the build of the bicycle. Initially I used a wheel set made up of Chris King hubs built with bladed spokes along with a Ritchey compact double crankset and other assorted parts. The gearing was too low on the 110bcd cranks and the hubs were too loud. I knew I needed to change things up. After looking around a bit and scouring my parts bin I came across the Dura Ace parts that are on the bicycle now. I had 9 speed Dura Ace brake/shifters on for a while but found that they fail too easily and are expensive to replace. I went back to friction shifting with the help of some Suntour Sprint DT shifters. Finally everything was cohesive on the bicycle and it felt more stable, fast, and fun than ever. Here is the current set up, because I know we all like the tiny details. I expect it will stay this way for a while: 1996 Road Standard, stock blue color 54cm Headset - Shimano 600 Stem - Nitto Pearl 10cm Bars - Nitto Noodle 44cm Brake levers - Shimano 105 Shifters - Suntour Sprint DT Brakes -Dura Ace 7700 -kool stop pads on front Cranks -Dura Ace 7700 -170mm Chainrings - Sugino 48t, Dura Ace 39t Pedals - dual sided SPD Wheels - 28h Dura ace 7700 to Mavic CXP-30 rims Front Derailer - Dura Ace 7800 Rear Derailer - Dura Ace 7700 triple Cassette - 9 speed 11-32 Seat post - I don't remember. Seat - Cheap flexy sport seat Seat bag -
[RBW] Re: Every bike has a story.
Bruce, These bikes are nearly twins. Are there any width problems with the Pari-Motos at the chainstays? You ever run 650b with fenders on your bike? Jason On Feb 27, 1:56 am, Bruce fullylug...@yahoo.com wrote: Jason: Like you, my '95 Road Std came as a frame and two forks set a couple of years ago. I saw how a prior owner had built it up, and wanted something a little different. Using the recently introduced Tektro 556 brakes, I converted the bike to a 650B, which lets me run bigger rubber. Also like you, I went with downtube shifters, in this case Silvers from RBW. I had a Leather saddle that was perfect in comfort but had overstretched (by a prior owner) but which was salvaged by putting in a longer tension bolt. It has stopped stretching and given many miles of useful service since making that fix. Our bikes are the same color and I list my components next to yours below to compare. Nice bikes :) From: J L subfas...@gmail.com To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Sent: Sat, February 26, 2011 11:33:11 PM Subject: [RBW] Every bike has a story. I think every bike has a story and a Rivendell has a special quality that not many other bicycles have: they take on the character of their owners. Really, My hope is that this post will inspire others to detail their setups and bicycle back stories. 1996 Road Standard, stock blue color 54cm 1995 54.5 cm Headset - Shimano 600 Chris King 2 nut Stem - Nitto Pearl 10cm Nitto Dynamic 10 cm Bars - Nitto Noodle 44cm Nitto Grand Randonneur model 135 Brake levers - Shimano 105 Shimano RSX Shifters - Suntour Sprint DT Silver DT Friction mode Brakes -Dura Ace 7700 -kool stop pads on front Tektro R556 Kool Stop Salmon front and rear Cranks -Dura Ace 7700 -170mm Campy Veloce triple 170mm Chainrings - Sugino 48t, Dura Ace 39t Veloce 52/42/30 Pedals - dual sided SPD MKS Sylvan Touring Wheels - 28h Dura ace 7700 to Mavic CXP-30 rims 32h Dura Ace Uniglide to Velocity Synergy rims. DB spokes Front Derailer - Dura Ace 7800 Veloce triple Rear Derailer - Dura Ace 7700 triple Veloce triple Cassette - 9 speed 11-32 7 speed Uniglide 12 - 28 Seat post - I don't remember. Titan 2 bolt aluminum Seat - Cheap flexy sport seat Selle Anatomica non watershed Seat bag - Timbuk2 Carradice zip roll Pump - Zefal frame pump Zefal frame pump Tires - Panaracer Pasela TG 700x28c Pascenti Pari-Moto 650 x 38 Bottle Cage - Stainless King Kage stainless V-O Moderniste http://tinyurl.com/5ss44eh-Photoset http://www.flickr.com/photos/9535930@N07/4796054626/in/set-7215761214... -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Every bike has a story.
Jason, After looking at the photos of your 54cm Road Standard, I'd agree - you don't have sufficient clearance to fit fenders with a 28C tire. I'm certain that my Road Standard (65cm size) has more clearance, but without taking the fenders off the bike I'm not sure of the clearance measurement. Just eyeballing with a metric ruler I'd estimate that I have approximately 9-10mm clearance between the brake bridge and the tire with approximately 5mm clearance between the top inside of the fender and the tire. Obviously, that isn't very generous and as I've said I don't intend to venture off-road on a muddy dirt path. Jim On Feb 27, 1:26 pm, JL subfas...@gmail.com wrote: 54cm road standard clearance photoshttp://tinyurl.com/4kewynm On Feb 27, 12:22 pm, JL subfas...@gmail.com wrote: Jim It amazes me that you could fit a fender with 28mm tires. I stand corrected, It is possible, just not with my frame. Even on your bike the clearance for the fender is quite tight it really deforms the fender line. I wonder how much space you have there. I uploaded some photos to show the clearance on my bike. The front has enough room, mostly because the fork crown doesn't follow the line of the tire. The rear, however, has less than 5mm of space in between the tire and the brake bridge. My brake choice further limits my fender options. Brakes aside, 5mm is not enough room in my mind for a fender to be mounted appropriately. It has been my understanding that the literature about tire clearance in early Rivendell publications assumed that tires were not true to size. Panaracer, I know had sizing issues which have since been corrected. I mounted a Pasela 700x32 and there was about 1mm clearance under the brake bridge. I expected as much, yet it was interesting to have the sizing on those two tires be so precise (28mm measures 5mm below the bridge, 32mm measures 1mm below the bridge). I only used those 32mm tires on one ride, when the tire deformed with my added weight it rubbed on the brake pivot and brake bridge. I have a couple theories about just this issue: a) Pasela TG and Pasela standard tires measure different, however, logic dictates the the TG would be the smaller of the two because the extra material should prevent the rubber from expanding as much. Other 28mm tires measure to different sizes as well. b) Different frame sizes offered slightly different clearance due to geometry, the flat part of the brake bridge runs perpendicular to the seat stay. As the frame size increases the angle between the the bottom of the brake bridge and the tire contact point increases. This make sense if you consider that the front and rear clearance on a frame are different, yet use the same brake reach. Great looking bike by the way. I really like the color. Jason On Feb 27, 8:52 am, Jim Cloud cloud...@aol.com wrote: Jason, It's certainly possible to fit fenders to a Rivendell Road Standard from this era (1995-1997) with 700x28c tires. Here's a photo of my bike (a 1996 model of the Road Standard) with Honjos and Pasela 700x28c tires: http://www.flickr.com/photos/37964304@N05/5432058115/ I've never experienced any problems with the set-up on my bike, but I probably wouldn't ride the bike on a muddy cyclocross course! The original product literature from Rivendell indicated that the Road Standard would accept fenders with a tire size of 32C. I frankly don't think this would be practical. The clearances on my bike with a 28C tire are quite close, although acceptable, but I certainly wouldn't attempt to fit a larger size tire. Jim Cloud Tucson, AZ On Feb 26, 10:33 pm, J L subfas...@gmail.com wrote: I think every bike has a story and a Rivendell has a special quality that not many other bicycles have: they take on the character of their owners. Really, it is like the bicycles develop a life of their own after a while. Here is a brief story, followed by photos, of one of my Rivendells: a 1996 road standard. My hope is that this post will inspire others to detail their setups and bicycle back stories. I bought the bike as a Frame/Fork plus extras a few years ago. It was disappointing at first to find out that this model, which uses 49mm brake reach, does not allow a true 28mm tire plus fender to fit. What seemed like a set back ended up being a large influence on the build of the bicycle. Initially I used a wheel set made up of Chris King hubs built with bladed spokes along with a Ritchey compact double crankset and other assorted parts. The gearing was too low on the 110bcd cranks and the hubs were too loud. I knew I needed to change things up. After looking around a bit and scouring my parts bin I came across the Dura Ace parts that are on the bicycle now. I had 9 speed Dura
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Jason: No trouble with Pari-Motos, but no room for fenders between the chainstays. The is room at the fork, and seatstays, soa specially sculpted fender could be fit. Bruce From: JL subfas...@gmail.com To: RBW Owners Bunch rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Sent: Sun, February 27, 2011 2:24:57 PM Subject: [RBW] Re: Every bike has a story. Bruce, These bikes are nearly twins. Are there any width problems with the Pari-Motos at the chainstays? You ever run 650b with fenders on your bike? Jason On Feb 27, 1:56 am, Bruce fullylug...@yahoo.com wrote: Jason: Like you, my '95 Road Std came as a frame and two forks set a couple of years ago. I saw how a prior owner had built it up, and wanted something a little different. Using the recently introduced Tektro 556 brakes, I converted the bike to a 650B, which lets me run bigger rubber. Also like you, I went with downtube shifters, in this case Silvers from RBW. I had a Leather saddle that was perfect in comfort but had overstretched (by a prior owner) but which was salvaged by putting in a longer tension bolt. It has stopped stretching and given many miles of useful service since making that fix. Our bikes are the same color and I list my components next to yours below to compare. Nice bikes :) From: J L subfas...@gmail.com To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Sent: Sat, February 26, 2011 11:33:11 PM Subject: [RBW] Every bike has a story. I think every bike has a story and a Rivendell has a special quality that not many other bicycles have: they take on the character of their owners. Really, My hope is that this post will inspire others to detail their setups and bicycle back stories. 1996 Road Standard, stock blue color 54cm 1995 54.5 cm Headset - Shimano 600 Chris King 2 nut Stem - Nitto Pearl 10cm Nitto Dynamic 10 cm Bars - Nitto Noodle 44cm Nitto Grand Randonneur model 135 Brake levers - Shimano 105 Shimano RSX Shifters - Suntour Sprint DT Silver DT Friction mode Brakes -Dura Ace 7700 -kool stop pads on front Tektro R556 Kool Stop Salmon front and rear Cranks -Dura Ace 7700 -170mmCampy Veloce triple 170mm Chainrings - Sugino 48t, Dura Ace 39t Veloce 52/42/30 Pedals - dual sided SPD MKS Sylvan Touring Wheels - 28h Dura ace 7700 to Mavic CXP-30 rims 32h Dura Ace Uniglide to Velocity Synergy rims. DB spokes Front Derailer - Dura Ace 7800 Veloce triple Rear Derailer - Dura Ace 7700 triple Veloce triple Cassette - 9 speed 11-327 speed Uniglide 12 - 28 Seat post - I don't remember. Titan 2 bolt aluminum Seat - Cheap flexy sport seatSelle Anatomica non watershed Seat bag - Timbuk2 Carradice zip roll Pump - Zefal frame pump Zefal frame pump Tires - Panaracer Pasela TG 700x28c Pascenti Pari-Moto 650 x 38 Bottle Cage - Stainless King Kagestainless V-O Moderniste http://tinyurl.com/5ss44eh-Photoset http://www.flickr.com/photos/9535930@N07/4796054626/in/set-7215761214... -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Every bike has a story.
Great Story! On Feb 26, 9:33 pm, J L subfas...@gmail.com wrote: I think every bike has a story and a Rivendell has a special quality that not many other bicycles have: they take on the character of their owners. Really, it is like the bicycles develop a life of their own after a while. Here is a brief story, followed by photos, of one of my Rivendells: a 1996 road standard. My hope is that this post will inspire others to detail their setups and bicycle back stories. I bought the bike as a Frame/Fork plus extras a few years ago. It was disappointing at first to find out that this model, which uses 49mm brake reach, does not allow a true 28mm tire plus fender to fit. What seemed like a set back ended up being a large influence on the build of the bicycle. Initially I used a wheel set made up of Chris King hubs built with bladed spokes along with a Ritchey compact double crankset and other assorted parts. The gearing was too low on the 110bcd cranks and the hubs were too loud. I knew I needed to change things up. After looking around a bit and scouring my parts bin I came across the Dura Ace parts that are on the bicycle now. I had 9 speed Dura Ace brake/shifters on for a while but found that they fail too easily and are expensive to replace. I went back to friction shifting with the help of some Suntour Sprint DT shifters. Finally everything was cohesive on the bicycle and it felt more stable, fast, and fun than ever. Here is the current set up, because I know we all like the tiny details. I expect it will stay this way for a while: 1996 Road Standard, stock blue color 54cm Headset - Shimano 600 Stem - Nitto Pearl 10cm Bars - Nitto Noodle 44cm Brake levers - Shimano 105 Shifters - Suntour Sprint DT Brakes -Dura Ace 7700 -kool stop pads on front Cranks -Dura Ace 7700 -170mm Chainrings - Sugino 48t, Dura Ace 39t Pedals - dual sided SPD Wheels - 28h Dura ace 7700 to Mavic CXP-30 rims Front Derailer - Dura Ace 7800 Rear Derailer - Dura Ace 7700 triple Cassette - 9 speed 11-32 Seat post - I don't remember. Seat - Cheap flexy sport seat Seat bag - Timbuk2 Pump - Zefal frame pump Tires - Panaracer Pasela TG 700x28c Bottle Cage - Stainless King Kage http://tinyurl.com/5ss44eh- Photoset Jason -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
