[RBW] Re: Hilltrek Ventile Cotton Analogy Sale
John, I’d recommend double ventile or cotton analogy for what you just described. Single layer soaks through where horizontal, such as sleeves on a bike, or sitting and enjoying a pipe. For blaze orange (or red, which I prefer, because it is equally visible, but not flourescent and thus bikey/racy and so people seem to be friendlier), I’d email them. With abandon, Patrick -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Hilltrek Ventile Cotton Analogy Sale
Patrick, You've spoken to this before, so excuse my poor memory. I'm having difficulty choosing between the 2x ventile and hybrid fabrics. I know in practice, where i ride (Western Oregon), my arms will get wet if I'm not in a plastic fabric. Im therefore thinking 2x Ventile might be a better choice for me than Hybrid. Yes, it's good to have additional protection at shoulders, but if the arms are soaked, that's not real pleasant. Problem is, in 2x Ventile, there is no "Blaze" orange to be seen. only the colors i'd want when trail walking. I was one of the early customers of their single ventile gilet, and like it very much. Perhaps not "waterproof" but comfortable, good zippers, good pockets, and in (at least partial, if not all) blaze orange. On Wednesday, August 29, 2018 at 9:44:59 AM UTC-7, Mark Schneider wrote: > > Patrick, > > I bought the Greenspot a few years ago after I read your recommendation. > (The analogy being too warm for my climate zone)The dual layer is very warm > but the fabric keeps me dry and comfortable as long as it's cool enough > out. The fabric breaths much better than GoreTex or the chex aper > laminates. I love all the pockets on the Greenspot it great for all cool > weather outdoor activity. > Mark > > On Tuesday, August 28, 2018 at 2:56:34 PM UTC-7, Deacon Patrick wrote: >> >> Best rain jacket I’ve ever had, going on over five years now. No >> affiliation, just a very satisfied customer. 20% off cotton analogy through >> August. https://hilltrek.co.uk/shop-by-material/cotton-analogy/ >> >> With abandon, >> Patrick >> >> www.CredoFamily.org >> www.MindYourHeadCoop.org >> > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Hilltrek Ventile Cotton Analogy Sale
Patrick, I bought the Greenspot a few years ago after I read your recommendation. (The analogy being too warm for my climate zone)The dual layer is very warm but the fabric keeps me dry and comfortable as long as it's cool enough out. The fabric breaths much better than GoreTex or the cheaper laminates. I love all the pockets on the Greenspot it great for all cool weather outdoor activity. Mark On Tuesday, August 28, 2018 at 2:56:34 PM UTC-7, Deacon Patrick wrote: > > Best rain jacket I’ve ever had, going on over five years now. No > affiliation, just a very satisfied customer. 20% off cotton analogy through > August. https://hilltrek.co.uk/shop-by-material/cotton-analogy/ > > With abandon, > Patrick > > www.CredoFamily.org > www.MindYourHeadCoop.org > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Hilltrek Ventile Cotton Analogy Sale
Andy brings up an excellent point, and so I’ll break out the basics of a temperature guide for the different fabrics (shift 10-20˚F depending on your own comfort levels at cold or warm temps): Raining in the 70’s and up: no jacket. 50’s and 60’s: The more humid it is, the hotter any jacket is going to feel, but if raining, the hybrid will be most comfortable/effective, with double ventile and cotton analogy being warmer, but easily controled via ventilation and removing layers. I’ve learned I like the stiffness of the wet hood against hail. Sardonic grin. Single ventile will keep you dry in a shower, but will soak/seep through after only 5-15 minutes. 20’s through 40’s: Hybrid, double ventile, and Cotton analogy all roughly equal at temp management and external moisture protection. Being wet in these temps is a real danger zone, for if one has to stop for whatever reason while wet, cold is rapidly magnified. This is the temp range I find cotton analogy excells at actively removing moisture from exhertion, keeping me drying inside so that if I stop, I dry off rather quickly. Fishnet longjohn top is very helpful with moisture/temp management here as well. Teens and below: At these temps, exterior moisture isn’t the issue. Wind and interior moisture are the challenges. Any windblocking layer that breaths well works excellently here. A standard canvas jacket works. The only key here is managing insulative layers to exhertion level, so less while riding, more when stopped. Moisture management becomes critical at temps below zero F because if you are damp inside while exherting and have to stop, you will enter hypothermia very quickly. So having extra layers to add quickly is essential, as is proper ventilation. This is also where fishnet longjohn shirt is very helpful. With abandon, Patrick -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Hilltrek Ventile Cotton Analogy Sale
Andy, -12F Commute in Western PA! Way to go! Tom (grew up in chilly Western PA but not resides in weeny winter Virginia) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Hilltrek Ventile Cotton Analogy Sale
Add my voice lauding the Hiltrek Ventile products. Patrick (and a few others) helped me target a garment a bit less water proof, but more breathable for use in a wider temperature band than the cotton analogy line. We should all be thanking Hiltrek for keeping Patrick and his camera out on his bike in the woods during the cold, wet and dark part of each of our cycling years. The bottom line made me gulp at first but after reviewing the number and cost of the series of miracle high tech "waterproof-breathable" garments which each proved to be neither in practical use but also not very durable, I realized that the right tool is always more costly up front. I'm headed into the stretch of the year for my Braemar Ventile Hybrid smock and could not be happier with its performance and durability. Sizing charts on the Hiltrek website helped substantiate my size choice regarding chest size, arm length, etc. My stock sized item allows some layering for the coldest of my commutes (-12°F last year) and lets there be some airspace when more temperate. My short torso for height build lets the tail be plenty for staying covered when on the bike. They do custom sizing for much less than I expected, but didn't need. Andy Cheatham Pittsburgh On Tuesday, August 28, 2018 at 6:15:24 PM UTC-4, WETH wrote: > > I have been eyeing those. Thanks for heads up on the discount. Might > still be a bit too pricey for my budget, but I have a few days to ponder. > Do you have the smock? Did you size up to allow layering underneath or > does the garment fit loose in your recommended size (going by chest > measurement)? > Thanks again > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
