Re: [RBW] Re: Hilsen and tire clearance.
on 4/20/10 4:23 PM, wile at dylanmcner...@yahoo.com wrote: My experience has been that if I put on a set of JBs or Paselas (32C), and I let the tires get to about 1000 or 1100 without rotating, the rear tire will be toast (i.e. get a flat every other day from puncture). Once it gets to this point I have found it is too late to rotate them - the same tire will continue to flat once it gets to the front. I stopped rotating tires after reading this: http://www.sheldonbrown.com/tire-rotation.html If anything, I'll rotate the front to the rear only, now. - J -- Jim Edgar cyclofi...@earthlink.net Cyclofiend Bicycle Photo Galleries - http://www.cyclofiend.com Current Classics - Cross Bikes Singlespeed - Working Bikes Your Photos are needed! - http://www.cyclofiend.com/guidelines I thought the idea was to waste the rest of our lives together.. -- Cyril, Breaking Away -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Hilsen and tire clearance.
On Apr 20, 11:55 pm, CycloFiend cyclofi...@earthlink.net wrote: I stopped rotating tires after reading this: http://www.sheldonbrown.com/tire-rotation.html If anything, I'll rotate the front to the rear only, now. - J I was thinking the same thing Jim. Funny, I read that article for the first time only about a week ago. It makes sense. --mike -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Hilsen and tire clearance.
Yes - I have read that before, but have been lazy. It just seemed so clean and easy to retire a set of tires at once (seriously - no pun intended - it caught me by surprise). Now, however, like many things in life I will give in to peer pressure and start rotating front to back. Thanks guys - it will be much safer. Dylan On Apr 21, 6:40 am, Mike mjawn...@gmail.com wrote: On Apr 20, 11:55 pm, CycloFiend cyclofi...@earthlink.net wrote: I stopped rotating tires after reading this: http://www.sheldonbrown.com/tire-rotation.html If anything, I'll rotate the front to the rear only, now. - J I was thinking the same thing Jim. Funny, I read that article for the first time only about a week ago. It makes sense. --mike -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Hilsen and tire clearance.
Hmmm - good question. I never considered that there could be an alignment issue. Everything else seems to indicate that it's well aligned - its an AHH with extremely quiet drivetrain, visually straight from the back, and the ride is smooth, stable and heavenly. The tires align perfectly with the rear fender. My experience has been that if I put on a set of JBs or Paselas (32C), and I let the tires get to about 1000 or 1100 without rotating, the rear tire will be toast (i.e. get a flat every other day from puncture). Once it gets to this point I have found it is too late to rotate them - the same tire will continue to flat once it gets to the front. I have had the same experience with 2 sets of JB greens and 1 set of JB blues. If I switch after 600 miles, I could probably get 1200 miles out of them. I found the Paselas to be almost exactly the same (however much cheaper). I also have had the beads separate from both types of tire around that mileage point. My riding conditions, however, may be very different from others. I commute to work year round in Tucson, AZ on fairly rough roads (lots of chip seal, but not many huge potholes). From May through August, all of my afternoon rides are at around 100 deg. I think I read on the Schwalbe website that high temperatures will accelerate tire wear. I also strap my work bag with clothes and stuff onto the rear rack. With bike lock and lunch, etc. it probably averages 25 lbs. I myself weigh about 200 lbs. For reference, before the AHH I commuted on a racing bike with a messenger bag. I consistently got 2000 out of the 25C tires I used. It's probably a combination of everything and I certainly enjoyed riding on both JBs and Paselas. It's just that I now may have found my nirvana tire. The Schwalbes are bigger (running 622-42 HS 366 with fenders), very comfy and seem very durable. Of course, it's not a fair test yet since the Schwalbes only have 1000 miles on them. On Apr 20, 2:44 pm, Joe Bartoe jbar...@hotmail.com wrote: I have to ask. How does one burn through the JBs and why would only get 1000 miles on the Paselas? I've ridden a pair of JBs for voer 1500 miles and they still don't show a lot of wear. Others on the list claim that Pasela's wear well. If you're really burning through the tires, especially on the rear, I'd suggest having a shop check the alignment of your rear triangle. Something doesn't sound right. Joe Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2010 14:33:58 -0700 Subject: [RBW] Re: Hilsen and tire clearance. From: dylanmcner...@yahoo.com To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com I have also switched over to the Schwalbe Marathons - and I am shocked at how fast they roll and how durable they are. I got sick of burning through the JBs and tried similar sized Paselas, but they also only lasted for about 1000 mi. The marathons have about 1000 on them now with hardly any noticeable tread wear (and no flats). I ride about 30 mi a day to and from work and the peace of mind is great. I really thought I was making a compromise, trading weight and rolling resistance for durability, but that has not been the case. One caveat - I don't have a lot of hills on my route. They may be slower going uphill, but based on the way they feel every day, I wouldn't hesitate to ride up the mountains around here. On Apr 19, 11:30 am, CycloFiend cyclofi...@earthlink.net wrote: on 4/19/10 9:12 AM, Mike at mjawn...@gmail.com wrote: On Apr 18, 10:53 pm, Earl Grey earlg...@gmail.com wrote: I do ride my JB greens off-road, though they are less fun than my 42mm IRC Mythos XC Slicks. Have gotten one pinch flat on a high speed descend on a gravel road with sharp fist-sized rocks, running around 35-40 psi with a bike+rider weight of 210 lbs. Gernot I think there are plenty of riders who can get by riding JB greens off road. Mark at Rivendell does and I think Cyclofiend has too. I weigh 190 and am magnetically drawn to every rut, rock, root and bad line when pedaling off road so it's just not a good idea for me. Then again, I've ridden 28s off road at times. It's really nice to have a bike the Hilsen or SH that provides lots of options. JB Greens are my choice. But, I have gotten pretty quick at on-the-trail tube replacements over the years. ;^) Most of the local trails have some pretty sharp, rocky bits, which means adding a bit more pressure. I think you'll find a lot of pinch flats at that psi, if those are your conditions. On certain trails, I increase pressure significantly. It's always a balance of comfort, control, pressure and technique. That's the challenge I enjoy, and it doesn't always make for easy-breezy descending. If you want lower pressures, increase the tire volume. JB's are nice and fat and round, which give significant control, but things can get dicey when when things are jagged. Of course, if you increase size
[RBW] Re: Hilsen and tire clearance.
On Apr 18, 10:53 pm, Earl Grey earlg...@gmail.com wrote: I do ride my JB greens off-road, though they are less fun than my 42mm IRC Mythos XC Slicks. Have gotten one pinch flat on a high speed descend on a gravel road with sharp fist-sized rocks, running around 35-40 psi with a bike+rider weight of 210 lbs. Gernot I think there are plenty of riders who can get by riding JB greens off road. Mark at Rivendell does and I think Cyclofiend has too. I weigh 190 and am magnetically drawn to every rut, rock, root and bad line when pedaling off road so it's just not a good idea for me. Then again, I've ridden 28s off road at times. It's really nice to have a bike the Hilsen or SH that provides lots of options. I need to get out for a ride soon. It's supposed to rain this afternoon and my fenders aren't on the bike! --mike -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Hilsen and tire clearance.
on 4/19/10 9:12 AM, Mike at mjawn...@gmail.com wrote: On Apr 18, 10:53 pm, Earl Grey earlg...@gmail.com wrote: I do ride my JB greens off-road, though they are less fun than my 42mm IRC Mythos XC Slicks. Have gotten one pinch flat on a high speed descend on a gravel road with sharp fist-sized rocks, running around 35-40 psi with a bike+rider weight of 210 lbs. Gernot I think there are plenty of riders who can get by riding JB greens off road. Mark at Rivendell does and I think Cyclofiend has too. I weigh 190 and am magnetically drawn to every rut, rock, root and bad line when pedaling off road so it's just not a good idea for me. Then again, I've ridden 28s off road at times. It's really nice to have a bike the Hilsen or SH that provides lots of options. JB Greens are my choice. But, I have gotten pretty quick at on-the-trail tube replacements over the years. ;^) Most of the local trails have some pretty sharp, rocky bits, which means adding a bit more pressure. I think you'll find a lot of pinch flats at that psi, if those are your conditions. On certain trails, I increase pressure significantly. It's always a balance of comfort, control, pressure and technique. That's the challenge I enjoy, and it doesn't always make for easy-breezy descending. If you want lower pressures, increase the tire volume. JB's are nice and fat and round, which give significant control, but things can get dicey when when things are jagged. Of course, if you increase size even a little bit, it feels like a monster truck. - J -- Jim Edgar cyclofi...@earthlink.net Cyclofiend Bicycle Photo Galleries - http://www.cyclofiend.com Current Classics - Cross Bikes Singlespeed - Working Bikes Your Photos are needed! - http://www.cyclofiend.com/guidelines I thought the idea was to waste the rest of our lives together.. -- Cyril, Breaking Away -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Hilsen and tire clearance.
I do ride my JB greens off-road, though they are less fun than my 42mm IRC Mythos XC Slicks. Have gotten one pinch flat on a high speed descend on a gravel road with sharp fist-sized rocks, running around 35-40 psi with a bike+rider weight of 210 lbs. Gernot On Apr 17, 8:38 pm, Mike mjawn...@gmail.com wrote: Over the winter I was using Panaracer t-serves in 700x35. I've used JB greens for the last two brevets and they're a great road tire but I'd be hesitant to use them off-road. The biggest tire I ever put on it was a Schwalbe Marathon 700x47 which I guess measures 41. The current Marathons I have on there are marked 700x40 but I think are a tad smaller. Here's a link to the 47s:http://www.rivbike.com/products/show/schwalbe-marathon/10-068 My Hilsen with 47s:http://www.flickr.com/photos/41335...@n00/3831147247/in/set-721576220... http://www.flickr.com/photos/41335...@n00/3770135967/in/set-721576217... Cyclofiend, you might want to try the T-serves or Paselas in 35, they'd probably be perfect for you. --mike On Apr 16, 11:20 pm, happyriding happyrid...@yahoo.com wrote: Your Hilsen looks good in the woods. What size tires do you normally use for road riding? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Hilsen and tire clearance.
Your Hilsen looks good in the woods. What size tires do you normally use for road riding? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Hilsen and tire clearance.
Over the winter I was using Panaracer t-serves in 700x35. I've used JB greens for the last two brevets and they're a great road tire but I'd be hesitant to use them off-road. The biggest tire I ever put on it was a Schwalbe Marathon 700x47 which I guess measures 41. The current Marathons I have on there are marked 700x40 but I think are a tad smaller. Here's a link to the 47s: http://www.rivbike.com/products/show/schwalbe-marathon/10-068 My Hilsen with 47s: http://www.flickr.com/photos/41335...@n00/3831147247/in/set-72157622068801352/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/41335...@n00/3770135967/in/set-72157621763640997/ Cyclofiend, you might want to try the T-serves or Paselas in 35, they'd probably be perfect for you. --mike On Apr 16, 11:20 pm, happyriding happyrid...@yahoo.com wrote: Your Hilsen looks good in the woods. What size tires do you normally use for road riding? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Hilsen and tire clearance.
on 4/17/10 6:38 AM, Mike at mjawn...@gmail.com wrote: Here's a link to the 47s: http://www.rivbike.com/products/show/schwalbe-marathon/10-068 My Hilsen with 47s: http://www.flickr.com/photos/41335...@n00/3831147247/in/set-72157622068801352/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/41335...@n00/3770135967/in/set-72157621763640997/ Thanks, Mike! Cyclofiend, you might want to try the T-serves or Paselas in 35, they'd probably be perfect for you. I think it was the Rivideos, but I really wanted to wedge a Schwalbe Big Apple in there... - Jim (about to be 'beamin') -- Jim Edgar cyclofi...@earthlink.net Three T-shirts Now Available: I've Got Downtube Shifters... S/S T-shirt Cyclocross - More Cowbell L/S T-shirt One Cog - Zero Excuses L/S T-shirt http://www.cyclofiend.com/stuff Cyclofiend Bicycle Photo Galleries - http://www.cyclofiend.com Current Classics - Cross Bikes Singlespeed - Working Bikes -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Hilsen and tire clearance.
I think it was the Rivideos, but I really wanted to wedge a Schwalbe Big Apple in there... - Jim (about to be 'beamin') Go for it and have fun on the Beam today. --mike -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
