Re: [RBW] Re: Inquiry re Sagging Selle AnAtomica

2011-05-27 Thread robert zeidler
I just got a Hunqa w/ a sprung Brooks and can comfortably ride it w/
regular shorts, no padding etc.  That being said, on a B-17 et al, try
taking some tension out of it at first and then cranking in the turns
as needed.  Conforms to your bones a bit easier.  Don't forget the
Proofide from time to time.  YMMV.

On Thu, May 26, 2011 at 1:11 PM, PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.com wrote:
 Damn, every time I get on a Brooks-type saddle, I regret that I can't
 get comfortable on them, particularly the B17 and copies; even the Pro
 was sub-par. The best I've ridden was a wide-ass, sprung saddle on a
 hotrodded Electra Ticino fixie, but I was sitting bolt upright on
 that. I might have to buy a roadster just so that I can have at least
 one comfortable Brooks.

 On Thu, May 26, 2011 at 5:25 AM, robert zeidler
 zeidler.rob...@gmail.com wrote:
 Looks damn comfy to me  Ever see a 30 year old B17 or Pro?  It's like
 putting on your favorite pair of jeans.

 RGZ

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Re: [RBW] Re: Inquiry re Sagging Selle AnAtomica

2011-05-26 Thread robert zeidler
Looks damn comfy to me  Ever see a 30 year old B17 or Pro?  It's like
putting on your favorite pair of jeans.

RGZ

On Wed, May 25, 2011 at 9:20 PM, reynoldslugs be...@perrylaw.net wrote:

 Thanks for the replies and education, quite helpful.  Minh, here are
 some pictures I took midway through the ride - - showing the
 beginnings of a good dip in the saddle.  The sag was 100% deeper by
 the end of the ride:

 http://www.flickr.com/photos/41563482@N06/sets/72157626675219389/

 and, here's a pic of the Roadeo, with the same model SA, on the same
 ride, at the same spot, and you can see how level the saddle surface
 looks:

 http://www.flickr.com/photos/41563482@N06/5382388796/in/set-72157625765337223/

 So, after reading the collective responses to my initial post, I rode,
 tightened the saddle, rode some more, tightened some more, until it
 felt and looked right.   It is amazing how much the thing had sagged.
 Apparently, they come from the factory without much tension.  I
 probably cranked three to four full turns on the adjustment bolt, and
 now it's almost fully level, and pretty comfortable.  I am a long-time
 user of Brooks saddles, and for now I'm still of the opinion that the
 SA is more comfortable (for my idiosyncratic dimensions). I am as
 suprised as Jim that I have not tightened the one on the Roadeo.

 We have a 7 to 8 hour ride planned for Memorial Day, so I'll have more
 data thereafter.
 RL

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Re: [RBW] Re: Inquiry re Sagging Selle AnAtomica

2011-05-26 Thread PATRICK MOORE
Damn, every time I get on a Brooks-type saddle, I regret that I can't
get comfortable on them, particularly the B17 and copies; even the Pro
was sub-par. The best I've ridden was a wide-ass, sprung saddle on a
hotrodded Electra Ticino fixie, but I was sitting bolt upright on
that. I might have to buy a roadster just so that I can have at least
one comfortable Brooks.

On Thu, May 26, 2011 at 5:25 AM, robert zeidler
zeidler.rob...@gmail.com wrote:
 Looks damn comfy to me  Ever see a 30 year old B17 or Pro?  It's like
 putting on your favorite pair of jeans.

 RGZ

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[RBW] Re: Inquiry re Sagging Selle AnAtomica

2011-05-25 Thread reynoldslugs

Thanks for the replies and education, quite helpful.  Minh, here are
some pictures I took midway through the ride - - showing the
beginnings of a good dip in the saddle.  The sag was 100% deeper by
the end of the ride:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/41563482@N06/sets/72157626675219389/

and, here's a pic of the Roadeo, with the same model SA, on the same
ride, at the same spot, and you can see how level the saddle surface
looks:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/41563482@N06/5382388796/in/set-72157625765337223/

So, after reading the collective responses to my initial post, I rode,
tightened the saddle, rode some more, tightened some more, until it
felt and looked right.   It is amazing how much the thing had sagged.
Apparently, they come from the factory without much tension.  I
probably cranked three to four full turns on the adjustment bolt, and
now it's almost fully level, and pretty comfortable.  I am a long-time
user of Brooks saddles, and for now I'm still of the opinion that the
SA is more comfortable (for my idiosyncratic dimensions). I am as
suprised as Jim that I have not tightened the one on the Roadeo.

We have a 7 to 8 hour ride planned for Memorial Day, so I'll have more
data thereafter.
RL

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[RBW] Re: Inquiry re Sagging Selle AnAtomica

2011-05-25 Thread iamkeith
I just had to send a new Titanico back to the factory for repair this
week  (a rivet wasn't fastened properly).  I spoke with Tom's sister,
Carol, who was very nice.  She said that she and the rest of Tom's
family are undergoing a steep learing curve to pick up the business
and to keep it running in the year since the loss of Tom.  She said
its been particularly tough, since the rest of the family aren't
really bikers.  I'm sure the website is the last thing on their mind
right now.  (Plus, let's face it - it was never really that good to
begin with.)

On a better note, her service and willingness to stand behind the
product was absolutely great - just as legend has suggested.  I was
also relieved to learn that they intend to keep the company running!
This is my first Selle An-Atomica and, after trying it for just a few
rides, I'm pretty sure that I could never buy another seat. ( It was
endorsements like this that made me finally buy one in the first
place.)   Long story short, there's no need to hoarde.

I AM interested in the sagging discussion though, and hearing of
more experiences.  Mine was already looking a bit sway-back too, after
the brief period of use.  Hadn't played with the tension yet though,
but definitely will, as I don't like the hammock effect.  I like to
be ON the saddle, not IN it. (I fluxuate between 190 and 210 but
tend to sit kind of lightly on the saddle, and got the clydesdale
watershed model)



On May 24, 6:51 pm, Bill M. bmenn...@comcast.net wrote:
 It doesn't look like the S-A site has changed at all in some time.  I
 don't think that whoever is running he company is paying any attention
 to the site.

 Bill

 On May 24, 9:09 am, Nick countrybicy...@gmail.com wrote:





  BTW - regarding Selle AnAtomica the company -  Do any of you find it
  curious that their web page makes no mention of the founder's untimely
  death? I would expect that they would at least create a page dedicated
  to his legacy...- Hide quoted text -

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[RBW] Re: Inquiry re Sagging Selle AnAtomica

2011-05-24 Thread charlie
Yea, it is after all just dead skin..and not every cow is the
same.

On May 23, 9:26 pm, reynoldslugs be...@perrylaw.net wrote:
 After just a few rides on a brand-new Selle Anatomica, it looks like
 our old mule (Gladys) with a deeply swayed back.  The manufacturer's
 website seems to say, don't worry about the way this looks, just
 tighten it up a bit at a time until it's comfortable.

 I'm willing to follow the manufacturer's advice, but i'm pretty
 certain I've never seen a leather saddle sag and splay like this
 anytime in the last 30+ years of riding Ideales and Brooks.  Moreover,
 I have what is supposed to be the identical saddle (different color)
 on my Roadeo, and have not had any sagging at all.

 Anyone else experience this with the Anatomicas, or have words of
 advice/wisdom?

 FWIW, I'm a Clyde and this is their Clyde model, ostensibly.

 thanks.
 RL

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[RBW] Re: Inquiry re Sagging Selle AnAtomica

2011-05-24 Thread Bill M.
You can't expect the SA to act like a Brooks, it's not supposed to.
It fits like a hammock.  As long as you're not bouncing off of the top
of the seatpost, it's not overstretched.  Whether that's a feeling you
like or not is up to you.

I weigh 180, and mine is a non-Clyde.  The sag stabilized with the
bolt about 2/3 of the way out.  I found I had too much inner thigh
friction on mine, so I laced the skirts in.  I also had to widen the
slot (per the directions) to keep the rear flaps from overlapping.

Bill

On May 23, 9:26 pm, reynoldslugs be...@perrylaw.net wrote:
 After just a few rides on a brand-new Selle Anatomica, it looks like
 our old mule (Gladys) with a deeply swayed back.  The manufacturer's
 website seems to say, don't worry about the way this looks, just
 tighten it up a bit at a time until it's comfortable.

 I'm willing to follow the manufacturer's advice, but i'm pretty
 certain I've never seen a leather saddle sag and splay like this
 anytime in the last 30+ years of riding Ideales and Brooks.  Moreover,
 I have what is supposed to be the identical saddle (different color)
 on my Roadeo, and have not had any sagging at all.

 Anyone else experience this with the Anatomicas, or have words of
 advice/wisdom?

 FWIW, I'm a Clyde and this is their Clyde model, ostensibly.

 thanks.
 RL

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[RBW] Re: Inquiry re Sagging Selle AnAtomica

2011-05-24 Thread Nick
Mine appeared to sag fast also. It is also very squeaky. I surmised
that with the squeaks and the fast sagging I was actually
inadvertently turning the adjustment bolt inward as I rode! I screwed
the bolt all the way in to detach the nose from the bolt head, removed
the bolt, heated it slightly with a torch and dipped it in bees wax.
It does not move as readily and the squeak is mostly gone. The saddle
is on my rigid SS 29er. I weight 170. I opted for the clydesdale with
water shed as the saddle regularly gets wet from above and below and
gets pounded pretty hard offroad! It has held up admirably over the
two years I have ridden it on a fairly regular basis (fun and race
mtb) I also have one on my fendered commuter that has many more miles
than the mtb. Same wax treatment to the bolt. I may try to find a
fixing nut for the adjuster bolt.

BTW - regarding Selle AnAtomica the company -  Do any of you find it
curious that their web page makes no mention of the founder's untimely
death? I would expect that they would at least create a page dedicated
to his legacy...

On May 23, 11:26 pm, reynoldslugs be...@perrylaw.net wrote:
 After just a few rides on a brand-new Selle Anatomica, it looks like
 our old mule (Gladys) with a deeply swayed back.  The manufacturer's
 website seems to say, don't worry about the way this looks, just
 tighten it up a bit at a time until it's comfortable.

 I'm willing to follow the manufacturer's advice, but i'm pretty
 certain I've never seen a leather saddle sag and splay like this
 anytime in the last 30+ years of riding Ideales and Brooks.  Moreover,
 I have what is supposed to be the identical saddle (different color)
 on my Roadeo, and have not had any sagging at all.

 Anyone else experience this with the Anatomicas, or have words of
 advice/wisdom?

 FWIW, I'm a Clyde and this is their Clyde model, ostensibly.

 thanks.
 RL

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[RBW] Re: Inquiry re Sagging Selle AnAtomica

2011-05-24 Thread Bill M.
It doesn't look like the S-A site has changed at all in some time.  I
don't think that whoever is running he company is paying any attention
to the site.

Bill

On May 24, 9:09 am, Nick countrybicy...@gmail.com wrote:


 BTW - regarding Selle AnAtomica the company -  Do any of you find it
 curious that their web page makes no mention of the founder's untimely
 death? I would expect that they would at least create a page dedicated
 to his legacy...

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[RBW] Re: Inquiry re Sagging Selle AnAtomica

2011-05-23 Thread Jim M.
My S.A. stretched over 3 months of riding until I had the tension bolt
extended to its maximum, at which point it stabilized. (I weigh 220
fwiw). It's certainly thinner leather than any Brooks or Ideale I've
seen. I'm amazed that you have one that hasn't stretched. My
experience is typical from every S.A. rider I know.

On May 23, 9:26 pm, reynoldslugs be...@perrylaw.net wrote:
 After just a few rides on a brand-new Selle Anatomica, it looks like
 our old mule (Gladys) with a deeply swayed back.  The manufacturer's
 website seems to say, don't worry about the way this looks, just
 tighten it up a bit at a time until it's comfortable.

 I'm willing to follow the manufacturer's advice, but i'm pretty
 certain I've never seen a leather saddle sag and splay like this
 anytime in the last 30+ years of riding Ideales and Brooks.  Moreover,
 I have what is supposed to be the identical saddle (different color)
 on my Roadeo, and have not had any sagging at all.

 Anyone else experience this with the Anatomicas, or have words of
 advice/wisdom?

 FWIW, I'm a Clyde and this is their Clyde model, ostensibly.

 thanks.
 RL

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