[RBW] Re: Intro.....my humble roots, with some Riv content

[Deacon Patrick]

A! The stories that come out when we care for lovely things! I love it!

With abandon,
Patrick

On Wednesday, July 27, 2016 at 7:14:56 PM UTC-6, LLM wrote:
>
> Found it!  My first look at the the inside of the Fleetwing bottom bracket 
> and spindle.  My youngest sister thinks she dropped the bits of hay down 
> through the seat tube way back when.  She has also admitted to 'pretending 
> the water hose was connected to a gas pump and 'filling 'er up'.
>
>
> 
>
> The plastic spacers were the source of failure of the bottom bracket.  I 
> removed them and back-filled with new bearings and fresh Phil Wood bearing 
> grease.
>
>

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[RBW] Re: Intro.....my humble roots, with some Riv content

[LLM]

Found it!  My first look at the the inside of the Fleetwing bottom bracket 
and spindle.  My youngest sister thinks she dropped the bits of hay down 
through the seat tube way back when.  She has also admitted to 'pretending 
the water hose was connected to a gas pump and 'filling 'er up'.



The plastic spacers were the source of failure of the bottom bracket.  I 
removed them and back-filled with new bearings and fresh Phil Wood bearing 
grease.

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[RBW] Re: Intro.....my humble roots, with some Riv content

[LLM]

Hi Shoji,

I was born in Boston and still have many roots and memories there!  The 
1000+ miles I put on the Fleetwing as a teen were on 3 roads in Norfolk, 
MA, where I did most of my growing up.  I ended up at Ferris Wheels in 
Jamaica Plain because they carry Brooklyn Bicycle Co. bikes.  Their Willow 
3 and 7 were on my short list when I was shopping for a step-through.  
(Grant P. gave BBC bicycle design advice, which impressed me.  In the end, 
I opted to pay more and get the "real thing"!)  I thought I was going to 
have to turn the Fleetwing into wall art until I talked to Jeffrey Ferris, 
and thenwell, you know the story!

I want to check out the new bikeway around Boston sometime.  Maybe we can 
make it a Riv outing.  :-)

Linda


On Monday, July 25, 2016 at 9:33:29 AM UTC-4, Shoji Takahashi wrote:

> Linda,
> I love this story! You're of Albany NY, but have bike-work with Boston 
> roots. Hope to cross bike paths with you in the Boston area on that 
> Fleetwing or Clem.
>
> Tailwinds,
> shoji
>
 

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[RBW] Re: Intro.....my humble roots, with some Riv content

[LLM]

Hi Shoji,

I was born in Boston and still have many roots and memories there!  The 
1000+ miles I put on the Fleetwing as a teen were on 3 roads in Norfolk, 
MA, where I did most of my growing up.  I ended up at Ferris Wheels in 
Jamaica Plain because they carry Brooklyn Bicycle Co. bikes.  Their Willow 
3 and 7 were on my short list when I was shopping for a step-through.  
(Grant P. gave BBC bicycle design advice, which impressed me.  In the end, 
I opted to pay more and get the "real thing"!)  I thought I was going to 
have to turn the Fleetwing into wall art until I talked to Jeffrey Ferris, 
and thenwell, you know the story!

I want to check out the new bikeway around Boston sometime.  Maybe we can 
make it a Riv outing.  :-)

Linda

On Monday, July 25, 2016 at 9:33:29 AM UTC-4, Shoji Takahashi wrote:

> Linda,
> I love this story! You're of Albany NY, but have bike-work with Boston 
> roots. Hope to cross bike paths with you in the Boston area on that 
> Fleetwing or Clem.
>
> Tailwinds,
> shoji
>
>
>
>
> On Sunday, July 24, 2016 at 10:15:07 PM UTC-4, LLM wrote:
>>
>> HI, I'm Linda of Albany, NY.  I've posted a few times here and have 
>> enjoyed reading for several months.  This is a longish post that serves as 
>> a bit of an introduction to where I'm coming from.
>>
>> I pre-ordered a Clem L-Style complete this spring in-between hip 
>> replacement surgeries.  The Clem will take the place of my Surly Disk 
>> Trucker, which I will probably sell.  Dreaming about riding a bike again 
>> after 2 years of not being able was a great source of inspiration and hope 
>> for me.  Two weeks after the second surgery (early May), and with help from 
>> a curb at the side of a parking lot, I climbed back on my 1970 Fleetwing 
>> English 3-speed to enjoy an exhilaratingly pain-free ride.  (There will 
>> hopefully be a photo of the bike sporting my new MultiSack and a Wald 
>> Folding Basket.)
>>
>> The Fleetwing came to me almost unused when I was in my early teens.  I 
>> proceeded to ride the snot out of the bike, logging well over 1000 miles 
>> over the 3-4 mile stretch of country roads I had permission from my mom to 
>> ride.  There was a long hill about 1/4 mile from my house that I would fly 
>> down over and over again just for the thrill of going as fast as I could. 
>>  My father surprised me 5 years ago when he pulled the old bike out from 
>> under a tarp and asked me if I'd like to take it  It was like a reunion 
>> with an old friend.
>>
>> The bike clearly needed some work.  My prior experience was limited to 
>> tire changes and minor adjustments.  Fortunately, a Google search took me 
>> straight to Sheldon's page on "Servicing English Three-Speeds."  He gives 
>> the Fleetwing a one-line mention:
>>
>> "Fleetwing - A house brand of Boston's Jordan Marsh department store 
>> chain."
>>
>>
>> The woman who passed the bike to me was a personal friend of the wife of 
>> the owner of Jordan Marsh.  I believe it was a Phillips model that Raleigh 
>> continued to build after swallowing Phillips.  The Fleetwing has the 
>> characteristic Raleigh dropouts (according to Sheldon) and wacky Raleigh 
>> threading.
>>
>> Sheldon's site gave me the assurance I needed that the bike was worth 
>> fixing.  So I learned about cottered cranks and got a cottered crank tool 
>> from BIkesmith on my way to the busted bottom bracket.I think I ordered 
>> Phil Wood bearing grease from Rivendell.  Got new bearings and assorted 
>> tools from my LBS.  A set of Panaracer Col de le Vies didn't fit under the 
>> fenders.  A set of Continental World Tours did.  I added transmission fluid 
>> to the Sturmey Archer hub; eventually the pawls started ticking again.  My 
>> first test ride put a familiar big smile on my face.
>>
>> Sometime later, after my first terrifying attempt to stop the bike going 
>> downhill in the rain, I sprung for a new set of alloy wheels from Harris 
>> that included a modern SA 3-speed Hub.  At the same time, I upgraded the 
>> brakes to some long-reach Tektro side-pulls.  To make room for the modern 
>> hub, I spread the rear dropouts Sheldon-style, with a caliper, a long 2x4, 
>> a chair and patience.  It worked.  Outside of a slightly bent front fork 
>> which made the front end twitchy, I ended up with a great city bike.  A 
>> couple of months ago, in the course of conversation with Jeffrey Ferris of 
>> "Ferris Wheels" in Boston, Jeff offered to look at the fork ("We are an old 
>> school shop with old school tools and old school skills!").  The fork 
>> couldn't be saved, but a shiny new chrome fork has resolved all of the 
>> handling challenges.  Handling has risen to a new level of importance now 
>> that I have a mid-range Subaru's worth of fancy hardware (not counting cost 
>> of installation) where my hip joints used to be!
>>
>> One of my goals at the outset of the Fleetwing project was to learn 
>> enough about bikes to be able to make an informed decision about purchasing 

[RBW] Re: Intro.....my humble roots, with some Riv content

[LLM]

Hi Michael,
For me, part of the magic of the English 3-speed is in the trigger 
shifter!  I like the simplicity of the 3-speed, and find the range 
acceptable - though I did change to a bigger cog in the back to make it 
more amenable to the hills we have around here as well as to the stop and 
go of city riding.  Also, Harris Cyclery 
 offers the 
wheels with the hub at a reasonable price.  It was easy!
Linda


On Monday, July 25, 2016 at 6:58:20 AM UTC-4, Michael Hechmer wrote:

> Wonderful.  Back to riding and a childhood friend returned.  Beautiful. 
>  When I read it I did wonder a bit why you didn't simply put an 8 or 9 
> speed hub?  Nostalgia or a desire to be true to the bikes history I guessed?
> Michael
>
>> 
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: Intro.....my humble roots, with some Riv content

[LLM]

>
> Wow!  Thanks so much for the warm welcome and positive feedback.  I'm glad 
> folks enjoyed the story.  I will post pics of the new Clem-L when I can.  
> If I can track down the pics I took of the newly opened Fleetwing bottom 
> bracket with bits of hay from the barn we parked the bikes in when I was a 
> kid, I will post them, too!
>

-Linda 

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[RBW] Re: Intro.....my humble roots, with some Riv content

[LeahFoy]

Just the flavor of romantic tale I love to read! I can't wait for you to get 
your Clem L and regal us with ALL the photos and ALL the words. I rode my 
mother-in-law's new Clementine on vacation this summer and it was a delight in 
every sense of the word. May yours be just the same.

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[RBW] Re: Intro.....my humble roots, with some Riv content

[Shoji Takahashi]

Linda,
I love this story! You're of Albany NY, but have bike-work with Boston 
roots. Hope to cross bike paths with you in the Boston area on that 
Fleetwing or Clem.

Tailwinds,
shoji




On Sunday, July 24, 2016 at 10:15:07 PM UTC-4, LLM wrote:
>
> HI, I'm Linda of Albany, NY.  I've posted a few times here and have 
> enjoyed reading for several months.  This is a longish post that serves as 
> a bit of an introduction to where I'm coming from.
>
> I pre-ordered a Clem L-Style complete this spring in-between hip 
> replacement surgeries.  The Clem will take the place of my Surly Disk 
> Trucker, which I will probably sell.  Dreaming about riding a bike again 
> after 2 years of not being able was a great source of inspiration and hope 
> for me.  Two weeks after the second surgery (early May), and with help from 
> a curb at the side of a parking lot, I climbed back on my 1970 Fleetwing 
> English 3-speed to enjoy an exhilaratingly pain-free ride.  (There will 
> hopefully be a photo of the bike sporting my new MultiSack and a Wald 
> Folding Basket.)
>
> The Fleetwing came to me almost unused when I was in my early teens.  I 
> proceeded to ride the snot out of the bike, logging well over 1000 miles 
> over the 3-4 mile stretch of country roads I had permission from my mom to 
> ride.  There was a long hill about 1/4 mile from my house that I would fly 
> down over and over again just for the thrill of going as fast as I could. 
>  My father surprised me 5 years ago when he pulled the old bike out from 
> under a tarp and asked me if I'd like to take it  It was like a reunion 
> with an old friend.
>
> The bike clearly needed some work.  My prior experience was limited to 
> tire changes and minor adjustments.  Fortunately, a Google search took me 
> straight to Sheldon's page on "Servicing English Three-Speeds."  He gives 
> the Fleetwing a one-line mention:
>
> "Fleetwing - A house brand of Boston's Jordan Marsh department store 
> chain."
>
>
> The woman who passed the bike to me was a personal friend of the wife of 
> the owner of Jordan Marsh.  I believe it was a Phillips model that Raleigh 
> continued to build after swallowing Phillips.  The Fleetwing has the 
> characteristic Raleigh dropouts (according to Sheldon) and wacky Raleigh 
> threading.
>
> Sheldon's site gave me the assurance I needed that the bike was worth 
> fixing.  So I learned about cottered cranks and got a cottered crank tool 
> from BIkesmith on my way to the busted bottom bracket.I think I ordered 
> Phil Wood bearing grease from Rivendell.  Got new bearings and assorted 
> tools from my LBS.  A set of Panaracer Col de le Vies didn't fit under the 
> fenders.  A set of Continental World Tours did.  I added transmission fluid 
> to the Sturmey Archer hub; eventually the pawls started ticking again.  My 
> first test ride put a familiar big smile on my face.
>
> Sometime later, after my first terrifying attempt to stop the bike going 
> downhill in the rain, I sprung for a new set of alloy wheels from Harris 
> that included a modern SA 3-speed Hub.  At the same time, I upgraded the 
> brakes to some long-reach Tektro side-pulls.  To make room for the modern 
> hub, I spread the rear dropouts Sheldon-style, with a caliper, a long 2x4, 
> a chair and patience.  It worked.  Outside of a slightly bent front fork 
> which made the front end twitchy, I ended up with a great city bike.  A 
> couple of months ago, in the course of conversation with Jeffrey Ferris of 
> "Ferris Wheels" in Boston, Jeff offered to look at the fork ("We are an old 
> school shop with old school tools and old school skills!").  The fork 
> couldn't be saved, but a shiny new chrome fork has resolved all of the 
> handling challenges.  Handling has risen to a new level of importance now 
> that I have a mid-range Subaru's worth of fancy hardware (not counting cost 
> of installation) where my hip joints used to be!
>
> One of my goals at the outset of the Fleetwing project was to learn enough 
> about bikes to be able to make an informed decision about purchasing a new 
> bike.  I ended up with the Surly.  The Clem L-Style is an obvious 
> successor.  While I wait to hear from RBW that they are shipping my new 
> bike to me, I continue to pedal around town on my first bicycle love, the 
> Fleetwing.
>

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[RBW] Re: Intro.....my humble roots, with some Riv content

[Michael Hechmer]

Wonderful.  Back to riding and a childhood friend returned.  Beautiful. 
 When I read it I did wonder a bit why you didn't simply put an 8 or 9 
speed hub?  Nostalgia or a desire to be true to the bikes history I guessed?
Michael

On Sunday, July 24, 2016 at 10:15:07 PM UTC-4, LLM wrote:
>
> HI, I'm Linda of Albany, NY.  I've posted a few times here and have 
> enjoyed reading for several months.  This is a longish post that serves as 
> a bit of an introduction to where I'm coming from.
>
> I pre-ordered a Clem L-Style complete this spring in-between hip 
> replacement surgeries.  The Clem will take the place of my Surly Disk 
> Trucker, which I will probably sell.  Dreaming about riding a bike again 
> after 2 years of not being able was a great source of inspiration and hope 
> for me.  Two weeks after the second surgery (early May), and with help from 
> a curb at the side of a parking lot, I climbed back on my 1970 Fleetwing 
> English 3-speed to enjoy an exhilaratingly pain-free ride.  (There will 
> hopefully be a photo of the bike sporting my new MultiSack and a Wald 
> Folding Basket.)
>
> The Fleetwing came to me almost unused when I was in my early teens.  I 
> proceeded to ride the snot out of the bike, logging well over 1000 miles 
> over the 3-4 mile stretch of country roads I had permission from my mom to 
> ride.  There was a long hill about 1/4 mile from my house that I would fly 
> down over and over again just for the thrill of going as fast as I could. 
>  My father surprised me 5 years ago when he pulled the old bike out from 
> under a tarp and asked me if I'd like to take it  It was like a reunion 
> with an old friend.
>
> The bike clearly needed some work.  My prior experience was limited to 
> tire changes and minor adjustments.  Fortunately, a Google search took me 
> straight to Sheldon's page on "Servicing English Three-Speeds."  He gives 
> the Fleetwing a one-line mention:
>
> "Fleetwing - A house brand of Boston's Jordan Marsh department store 
> chain."
>
>
> The woman who passed the bike to me was a personal friend of the wife of 
> the owner of Jordan Marsh.  I believe it was a Phillips model that Raleigh 
> continued to build after swallowing Phillips.  The Fleetwing has the 
> characteristic Raleigh dropouts (according to Sheldon) and wacky Raleigh 
> threading.
>
> Sheldon's site gave me the assurance I needed that the bike was worth 
> fixing.  So I learned about cottered cranks and got a cottered crank tool 
> from BIkesmith on my way to the busted bottom bracket.I think I ordered 
> Phil Wood bearing grease from Rivendell.  Got new bearings and assorted 
> tools from my LBS.  A set of Panaracer Col de le Vies didn't fit under the 
> fenders.  A set of Continental World Tours did.  I added transmission fluid 
> to the Sturmey Archer hub; eventually the pawls started ticking again.  My 
> first test ride put a familiar big smile on my face.
>
> Sometime later, after my first terrifying attempt to stop the bike going 
> downhill in the rain, I sprung for a new set of alloy wheels from Harris 
> that included a modern SA 3-speed Hub.  At the same time, I upgraded the 
> brakes to some long-reach Tektro side-pulls.  To make room for the modern 
> hub, I spread the rear dropouts Sheldon-style, with a caliper, a long 2x4, 
> a chair and patience.  It worked.  Outside of a slightly bent front fork 
> which made the front end twitchy, I ended up with a great city bike.  A 
> couple of months ago, in the course of conversation with Jeffrey Ferris of 
> "Ferris Wheels" in Boston, Jeff offered to look at the fork ("We are an old 
> school shop with old school tools and old school skills!").  The fork 
> couldn't be saved, but a shiny new chrome fork has resolved all of the 
> handling challenges.  Handling has risen to a new level of importance now 
> that I have a mid-range Subaru's worth of fancy hardware (not counting cost 
> of installation) where my hip joints used to be!
>
> One of my goals at the outset of the Fleetwing project was to learn enough 
> about bikes to be able to make an informed decision about purchasing a new 
> bike.  I ended up with the Surly.  The Clem L-Style is an obvious 
> successor.  While I wait to hear from RBW that they are shipping my new 
> bike to me, I continue to pedal around town on my first bicycle love, the 
> Fleetwing.
>

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[RBW] Re: Intro.....my humble roots, with some Riv content

[Evan E.]

Welcome, Linda! Great story about your Fleetwing. Please do post pics of 
(and stories about) your Clem when you receive it.

Evan



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[RBW] Re: Intro.....my humble roots, with some Riv content

[dougP]

Linda:

Great story & thanks for the background.  Welcome to an eclectic group of 
cyclists.  Ride reports & photos are always welcome.  Please be sure to 
post pix of your new bike with it arrives.  

dougP

On Sunday, July 24, 2016 at 7:15:07 PM UTC-7, LLM wrote:
>
> HI, I'm Linda of Albany, NY.  I've posted a few times here and have 
> enjoyed reading for several months.  This is a longish post that serves as 
> a bit of an introduction to where I'm coming from.
>
> I pre-ordered a Clem L-Style complete this spring in-between hip 
> replacement surgeries.  The Clem will take the place of my Surly Disk 
> Trucker, which I will probably sell.  Dreaming about riding a bike again 
> after 2 years of not being able was a great source of inspiration and hope 
> for me.  Two weeks after the second surgery (early May), and with help from 
> a curb at the side of a parking lot, I climbed back on my 1970 Fleetwing 
> English 3-speed to enjoy an exhilaratingly pain-free ride.  (There will 
> hopefully be a photo of the bike sporting my new MultiSack and a Wald 
> Folding Basket.)
>
> The Fleetwing came to me almost unused when I was in my early teens.  I 
> proceeded to ride the snot out of the bike, logging well over 1000 miles 
> over the 3-4 mile stretch of country roads I had permission from my mom to 
> ride.  There was a long hill about 1/4 mile from my house that I would fly 
> down over and over again just for the thrill of going as fast as I could. 
>  My father surprised me 5 years ago when he pulled the old bike out from 
> under a tarp and asked me if I'd like to take it  It was like a reunion 
> with an old friend.
>
> The bike clearly needed some work.  My prior experience was limited to 
> tire changes and minor adjustments.  Fortunately, a Google search took me 
> straight to Sheldon's page on "Servicing English Three-Speeds."  He gives 
> the Fleetwing a one-line mention:
>
> "Fleetwing - A house brand of Boston's Jordan Marsh department store 
> chain."
>
>
> The woman who passed the bike to me was a personal friend of the wife of 
> the owner of Jordan Marsh.  I believe it was a Phillips model that Raleigh 
> continued to build after swallowing Phillips.  The Fleetwing has the 
> characteristic Raleigh dropouts (according to Sheldon) and wacky Raleigh 
> threading.
>
> Sheldon's site gave me the assurance I needed that the bike was worth 
> fixing.  So I learned about cottered cranks and got a cottered crank tool 
> from BIkesmith on my way to the busted bottom bracket.I think I ordered 
> Phil Wood bearing grease from Rivendell.  Got new bearings and assorted 
> tools from my LBS.  A set of Panaracer Col de le Vies didn't fit under the 
> fenders.  A set of Continental World Tours did.  I added transmission fluid 
> to the Sturmey Archer hub; eventually the pawls started ticking again.  My 
> first test ride put a familiar big smile on my face.
>
> Sometime later, after my first terrifying attempt to stop the bike going 
> downhill in the rain, I sprung for a new set of alloy wheels from Harris 
> that included a modern SA 3-speed Hub.  At the same time, I upgraded the 
> brakes to some long-reach Tektro side-pulls.  To make room for the modern 
> hub, I spread the rear dropouts Sheldon-style, with a caliper, a long 2x4, 
> a chair and patience.  It worked.  Outside of a slightly bent front fork 
> which made the front end twitchy, I ended up with a great city bike.  A 
> couple of months ago, in the course of conversation with Jeffrey Ferris of 
> "Ferris Wheels" in Boston, Jeff offered to look at the fork ("We are an old 
> school shop with old school tools and old school skills!").  The fork 
> couldn't be saved, but a shiny new chrome fork has resolved all of the 
> handling challenges.  Handling has risen to a new level of importance now 
> that I have a mid-range Subaru's worth of fancy hardware (not counting cost 
> of installation) where my hip joints used to be!
>
> One of my goals at the outset of the Fleetwing project was to learn enough 
> about bikes to be able to make an informed decision about purchasing a new 
> bike.  I ended up with the Surly.  The Clem L-Style is an obvious 
> successor.  While I wait to hear from RBW that they are shipping my new 
> bike to me, I continue to pedal around town on my first bicycle love, the 
> Fleetwing.
>

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