[RBW] Re: Nitto Big Front Rack fitting issue

2013-02-15 Thread Scot Brooks
That's just brilliant, John. I'm a little embarrassed I didn't think of it 
myself. Thanks for the insight. 

On Friday, February 15, 2013 2:07:11 PM UTC-8, John Philip wrote:
>
> I was able to mount the Big Rack to my Bombadil using Nitto hardware 
> skipping the p clamps:  
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/cnyriv/8477467738/in/photostream
>
> On Wednesday, February 13, 2013 10:35:25 PM UTC-5, Scot Brooks wrote:
>>
>> Here are some images showing the fitment. The rack is perfectly level in 
>> this position and you can see that it's just not possible to get it to the 
>> eyelet. I did manage to get the p-clamps quite secure with a system of 
>> spacers and washers that compensated for the p-clamps' natural urge to put 
>> the screws into a wonky angle during tightening. Next step is smaller 
>> screws I guess. 
>
>

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[RBW] Re: Nitto Big Front Rack fitting issue

2013-02-15 Thread William
Ding ding!  We have a winner.  That is really good

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[RBW] Re: Nitto Big Front Rack fitting issue

2013-02-15 Thread John Philip
I was able to mount the Big Rack to my Bombadil using Nitto hardware 
skipping the p clamps:  
http://www.flickr.com/photos/cnyriv/8477467738/in/photostream

On Wednesday, February 13, 2013 10:35:25 PM UTC-5, Scot Brooks wrote:
>
> Here are some images showing the fitment. The rack is perfectly level in 
> this position and you can see that it's just not possible to get it to the 
> eyelet. I did manage to get the p-clamps quite secure with a system of 
> spacers and washers that compensated for the p-clamps' natural urge to put 
> the screws into a wonky angle during tightening. Next step is smaller 
> screws I guess. 

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Re: [RBW] Re: Nitto Big Front Rack fitting issue

2013-02-15 Thread Joe Broach
Righteous. Be sure to share the results--really have enjoyed the attention
to detail in your builds.

Best,
joe

On Wed, Feb 13, 2013 at 10:42 PM, Scot Brooks wrote:

> Joe, that looks absolutely perfect for my needs. I'd better look up a
> metal shop to see what they can do for me.
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Re: [RBW] Re: Nitto Big Front Rack fitting issue

2013-02-13 Thread Scot Brooks
Joe, that looks absolutely perfect for my needs. I'd better look up a metal 
shop to see what they can do for me. 

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Re: [RBW] Re: Nitto Big Front Rack fitting issue

2013-02-13 Thread Joe Broach
Looks like a perfect candidate for Alex Wetmore's elegant hack:

http://www.phred.org/~alex/pictures/bikes/jandd-triangle.jpg

Two triangles of aluminum span the gap to the braze-ons, and two bolts on
the slot side keeping the extension from rotating.

Best,
joe broach
portland, or

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[RBW] Re: Nitto Big Front Rack fitting issue

2013-02-13 Thread William
I agree that it would be nice to see a re-design with a vertical slot that 
could fit the mid-fork braze-on, on all the various Riv forks.  I have the 
same one you have, and I'd like it even better if it fit without a 
p-clamp.  Maybe their experience on the HA Rack will spawn a re-design.  

On Wednesday, February 13, 2013 7:35:25 PM UTC-8, Scot Brooks wrote:
>
> Here are some images showing the fitment. The rack is perfectly level in 
> this position and you can see that it's just not possible to get it to the 
> eyelet. I did manage to get the p-clamps quite secure with a system of 
> spacers and washers that compensated for the p-clamps' natural urge to put 
> the screws into a wonky angle during tightening. Next step is smaller 
> screws I guess. 

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[RBW] Re: Nitto Big Front Rack fitting issue

2013-02-13 Thread Minh
Scot,

It is possible, http://flic.kr/p/dUxFk4 (sorry for the bad picture).  I've 
never understood what the parameters are to make it fit, my NBFR is an older 
one.  When i tried with the p-clamps i actually didn't like how it fit.  

this is not a perfect situation though, having it canted far enough back to 
mount to the eyeles makes adjustment of canti brakes quite difficult (if you 
need to tighten the canti-bolts, or need to make straddle adjustments).  i 
guess with side-pulls it would be a little easier but then getting to the 
center bolt would require a shorter l-wrench.  

just for info this is a 1st gen, single-tt 56cm sam.  the fork only has a 
single lower eyelet at the bottom so the rack is bolted there and i have 
fenders mounted to the rack itself.  this front rack does not have the 3 holes 
at the bottom like the newer ones.

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[RBW] Re: Nitto Big Front Rack fitting issue

2013-02-13 Thread Scot Brooks
Shoji,
Mine is a 60cm 700c side puller. I did see the video, but thought a bike with 
the high rider eyelets would line up perfectly since that seems to be the Nitto 
way. I can post a pic tonight after work and you can see my Frankenstein 
screw/washer/spacer concoction I came up with. 

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[RBW] Re: Nitto Big Front Rack fitting issue

2013-02-13 Thread Shoji Takahashi
And here's a pic from Renaissance Bicycles of that Sam+Big Front Rack
http://www.renaissancebicycles.com/images/rivendell/pratiks_touring_sam_hillborne/hillborne-nitto-racks.jpg

Maybe a pic of yours, Scot? Did Riv move the placement of the mid-fork 
attachment? Is this is sidepull vs canti difference or maybe 650b vs 700 
difference?

BTW: the Bombadil on the Riv install video 
(http://www.rivbike.com/product-p/r5.htm) has mid-fork brazeons, but Mark's 
installing the rack with p-clamps.


On Wednesday, February 13, 2013 2:33:46 PM UTC-5, Scot Brooks wrote:
>
> I finally got a lovely Nitto R34 yesterday. I noticed the placement of the 
> top attachment point is a little weird when mounting to the Sam's fork; it 
> doesn't really come close to the eyelets so I have to use the p-clamps 
> instead. However, I've seen photos from Renaissance Bicycles on Flickr that 
> show a Sam with the same rack perfectly fitted to the eyelets. I guess it's 
> a minor point, but the Nitto stuff usually seems so perfectly suited to the 
> Riv stuff and this seems just a little sloppy. 

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