[RBW] Re: Nitto Front Rack / Canti Link Wire Interference

2011-12-06 Thread Ginz
I had the same problem.  Raising the yoke to the height shown in the
Rivendell photo reduced the mechanical advantage far too much.  Some
folks will say it is no big deal, but I disagree.  So, I went with the
Tektro CR720's which, with their wide profile, compensate for the high
yoke.  However, having a very short head tube, I couldn't get the yoke
high enough to make the brakes feel good. So, I used the Problem
Solvers wide yoke which similates a high yoke,

In the end, it works.  In the future, I will look for a rack that does
not occupy the fork crown!

Good Luck,
Ginz

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[RBW] Re: Nitto Front Rack / Canti Link Wire Interference

2011-12-06 Thread opa...@gmail.com
Sorry, didn't mean to imply those were IRD's in the photo.  I was just 
using the photo for comparison purposes.

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[RBW] Re: Nitto Front Rack / Canti Link Wire Interference

2011-12-05 Thread dougP
When I added the Nitto mini to my Atlantis with the stock Shimano low
profile cantis I had the same situation.  Between fiddling around with
the adjustable side and the barrel adjuster, I could just get the link
wire to come off after slackening up on the barrel adjuster.  Kind of
a pain.  The straddle cable idea sounds like you'll get a lot more
freedom & ease of set up.

For me, braking power was poor so I eventually went to the Tektro 720
cantis, really easy to set up.

dougP

On Dec 5, 3:44 pm, "opa...@gmail.com"  wrote:
> Here's the best I could do trying to get it all in one shot:
>
> http://bit.ly/taKfSA
>
> I'll try the brake spacers.  Seems like it would get it nowhere near the
> kind of clearance Riv show?
>
> Cheers

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[RBW] Re: Nitto Front Rack / Canti Link Wire Interference

2011-12-05 Thread Corwin
Not sure how important this is - but the image from Riv looks more
like the Shimano brakse than the iRD cantilevers.

I agree that a longer straddle wire will help - be careful not to
lengthen it too much, as that may reduce the mechanical advantage,
thereby "de-powereing" your brakes.


Corwin

On Dec 5, 3:44 pm, "opa...@gmail.com"  wrote:
> Here's the best I could do trying to get it all in one shot:
>
> http://bit.ly/taKfSA
>
> I'll try the brake spacers.  Seems like it would get it nowhere near the
> kind of clearance Riv show?
>
> Cheers

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[RBW] Re: Nitto Front Rack / Canti Link Wire Interference

2011-12-05 Thread EricP
+1.  A carrier and straddle wire works easier with a front rack, IMO.
Had that setup on my Sam Hillborne with Nitto Front Rack until I
decided to go with V brakes instead.

But a longer link wire would also work if you have one. And if there
is enough extra length in your remaining brake cable.

Eric Platt
St. Paul, MN

On Dec 5, 5:47 pm, William  wrote:
> Yeah, that looks like you already have the skinny pair on the rim side.  I
> recommend a carrier and straddle wire.

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[RBW] Re: Nitto Front Rack / Canti Link Wire Interference

2011-12-05 Thread William
Yeah, that looks like you already have the skinny pair on the rim side.  I 
recommend a carrier and straddle wire.  

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[RBW] Re: Nitto Front Rack / Canti Link Wire Interference

2011-12-05 Thread opa...@gmail.com
Here's the best I could do trying to get it all in one shot:

http://bit.ly/taKfSA

I'll try the brake spacers.  Seems like it would get it nowhere near the 
kind of clearance Riv show?

Cheers

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[RBW] Re: Nitto Front Rack / Canti Link Wire Interference

2011-12-05 Thread Minh
there are link wires that are shorter/longer that could help with the
height.  but easiest would be to use a straddle carrier style instead
of a link wire, like this http://www.rivbike.com/product-p/ca21.htm

i'm used a similiar one on my sam h with the same rack and same
brakes.
that rack is now on my quickbeam (but with paul brakes instead of the
irds) but same issue solved,

On Dec 5, 4:31 pm, "opa...@gmail.com"  wrote:
> Ever since I installed the Nitto Mini Front Rack on my Atlantis, the
> mounting rod that mounts through the fork crown hole interferes with the
> link wire of my IRD cantis.  You can see a picture of the IRD cantis and
> how low the link wire sits here:
>
> http://www.interlocracing.com/brake_canti.html
> and Riv's picture showing all kinds of clearance with theirs 
> here:http://www.rivbike.com/PhotoGallery.asp?ProductCode=r2
>
> The link wire actually sits on the threaded rod when the brakes are open,
> enough so that when I put new brake pads on, I can't open them all the
> way.  Is it possible to get a different link wire that sits higher up, and
> still gives the same amount of braking power, or do I just need new brakes,
> or a new rack?  I don't really use the rack except to hold my front basket,
> btw.
>
> Cheers,
> Robert Opalko

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[RBW] Re: Nitto Front Rack / Canti Link Wire Interference

2011-12-05 Thread William
How about a picture of your setup?

The Riv picture shows oodles of clearance using brakes that aren't IRD.  

Your brake pads probably have a set of spacers that have a thick side and a 
thin side.  If the thick side is on the rim side of the setup now, swapping 
the thin side spacer to the inside will move the pads off the rim, which 
you'll fix by pulling out some slack in the cable, raising the arch and 
getting you some clearance.  Raising the arch on low profile cantilevers 
does change the brake geometry, and will reduce your mechanical advantage 
somewhat.  

Throwing out that arch wire and replacing it with a separate straddle cable 
and carrier will enable to keep your straddle height as low as possible 
while still clearing your rack.  

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