Re: [RBW] Re: Please tell me about your experience with caliper braked Hillbornes.
I think with slicks you would get way less pebbles thrown up into fenders. From my experience. I only hear pebbles about one time per year with slicks and about 1.5 cm fender clearance all around -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Please tell me about your experience with caliper braked Hillbornes.
I have 559s on my Sam with cream SKS 45 fenders and 38mm Little Big Bens. I put salmon pads on the 559s and they work sufficiently. Things are a bit close in front. I hear pebbles scraping inside the front fender occasionally. I have SKS 50 fenders on my Cheviot and never hear that noise. Jon On Thursday, August 2, 2018 at 4:46:18 PM UTC-6, Joe Bernard wrote: > > Added guess: Hilsens were getting more expensive and with longer lead > times, and other lower cost canti Rivs were in the pipeline. It made sense > for Sam to morph into the MIT version of Hilsen. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Please tell me about your experience with caliper braked Hillbornes.
Added guess: Hilsens were getting more expensive and with longer lead times, and other lower cost canti Rivs were in the pipeline. It made sense for Sam to morph into the MIT version of Hilsen. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Please tell me about your experience with caliper braked Hillbornes.
My guesses: 1. It was Grant who convinced Tektro to make the R559 calipers in the first place, so I think he feels motivated to stick to his guns about the value of these brakes and continue to spec them on his bikes. 2. Production costs. The fork crowns and seatstay bridges already have brake mounts, whereas adding cantilever mounts adds four more brazing operations (at least). Fairly critical ones at that, where a strong braze and good placement/alignment are essential to the function of the bike. All that being said, the latest batch of Sams had cantilever posts (and I was tempted by them!). They're going on pause until 2020, we'll see if they come back with posts or not then. On Thursday, August 2, 2018 at 9:51:49 AM UTC-7, Patrick Moore wrote: > > Getting back to first principles here: Can anyone tell me why Riv ever > switched from cantis to calipers on the Sam Hillborne? Cantis (or v-brakes) > just make so much more sense for this bike, IMO. > > Patrick Moore, who briefly owned a canti'd Sam (with ineffably wonderful > Riv-set-up IRD cantis) and who wishes his 2003 Curt Custom had cantis (and > one day it might!), in ABQ, NM > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Please tell me about your experience with caliper braked Hillbornes.
Getting back to first principles here: Can anyone tell me why Riv ever switched from cantis to calipers on the Sam Hillborne? Cantis (or v-brakes) just make so much more sense for this bike, IMO. Patrick Moore, who briefly owned a canti'd Sam (with ineffably wonderful Riv-set-up IRD cantis) and who wishes his 2003 Curt Custom had cantis (and one day it might!), in ABQ, NM -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Please tell me about your experience with caliper braked Hillbornes.
I swapped my R559s for Paul Racers because the R559s intruded upon fender space. Centerpulls do not. I thought the Pauls had better lever feel, because they are stiffer than the R559s. Braking performance was only slightly better than R559s, though (both brakes on Kool-Stop pads). > On Tuesday, July 31, 2018 at 5:35 PM UTC-4, Brett Callahan wrote: >> >> Friends, >> >> I'm considering the purchase of a lightly used Sam Hillborne--the caliper >> brake version. The only thing giving me pause is that it has been a while >> since I had anything with caliper brakes. The long reach required would >> seem to limit my options to the Paul Racer Centerpulls and the >> Tektro/Silver R559 brakes. Anyone want to share their experiences with >> these brakes, particularly on the Hillborne? >> >> If money were no object, would replacing R559s with Pauls be a good idea? >> (The bike would come with R559s on it, but I am who I am and will look to >> tinker eventually...) >> >> For background, intended use is as a primarily on road bike with a small >> front rack, 38mm tires, and fenders. I'm six foot two, and weigh 235-245. I >> live in Portland, so the bike will be ridden in the rain. >> >> Thanks! >> >> Brett >> > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Please tell me about your experience with caliper braked Hillbornes.
I'll add to the conversation and say that I have too have a caliper Sam. I love this bike! Given the choice if I had to do it all over again I would prefer a canti version just because of the added tire clearance. Mine came with the R559's which are decent brakes but I ended up swapping them out with the Paul Racer's just like others have said. When adjusted properly the Paul's are fantastic brakes! If you add the Paul's the one recommendation I'll make is to get the Paul Moon Units. The Moon Unit is such a nicely designed brake accessory that makes your life easier when it comes to adjusting your brakes. You mentioned you wanted to use the bike with fenders. The Racer's easily clear the fenders where as the Tektro brakes make just enough contact to mess with your fender alignment. On Tuesday, July 31, 2018 at 5:35 PM UTC-4, Brett Callahan wrote: > > Friends, > > I'm considering the purchase of a lightly used Sam Hillborne--the caliper > brake version. The only thing giving me pause is that it has been a while > since I had anything with caliper brakes. The long reach required would > seem to limit my options to the Paul Racer Centerpulls and the > Tektro/Silver R559 brakes. Anyone want to share their experiences with > these brakes, particularly on the Hillborne? > > If money were no object, would replacing R559s with Pauls be a good idea? > (The bike would come with R559s on it, but I am who I am and will look to > tinker eventually...) > > For background, intended use is as a primarily on road bike with a small > front rack, 38mm tires, and fenders. I'm six foot two, and weigh 235-245. I > live in Portland, so the bike will be ridden in the rain. > > Thanks! > > Brett > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Please tell me about your experience with caliper braked Hillbornes.
Loved my R559’s with salmon pads on my blue Sam. I ran 42’s with fenders on it. No problem. I see no reason to pay all that money for Pauls. I had Pauls on a Bleriot once and switched to the R559’s and was much happier. Cleaner look and braked better. No more judder. Easy setup. No fuss. Less hardware. Braked just as well. I found clearance to be better by 1mm IIRC. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Please tell me about your experience with caliper braked Hillbornes.
I have the Tektro/Silver (Riv branded and shinier version) 559s on 3 bikes and they work fine for me. I use either Kool-Stop or Aztec pads which grip better than the stock items. I had Paul Racers on a Saluki and did not like them. I now have my first centerpulls (Mafac) and so far really like them. Also with Kool-stop pads. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Please tell me about your experience with caliper braked Hillbornes.
Paul Racers are the way to go. I've fit switchback hills under them, didn't ryt o put on fenders though., On Tuesday, July 31, 2018 at 5:36:35 PM UTC-4, Brett Callahan wrote: > > Friends, > > I'm considering the purchase of a lightly used Sam Hillborne--the caliper > brake version. The only thing giving me pause is that it has been a while > since I had anything with caliper brakes. The long reach required would > seem to limit my options to the Paul Racer Centerpulls and the > Tektro/Silver R559 brakes. Anyone want to share their experiences with > these brakes, particularly on the Hillborne? > > If money were no object, would replacing R559s with Pauls be a good idea? > (The bike would come with R559s on it, but I am who I am and will look to > tinker eventually...) > > For background, intended use is as a primarily on road bike with a small > front rack, 38mm tires, and fenders. I'm six foot two, and weigh 235-245. I > live in Portland, so the bike will be ridden in the rain. > > Thanks! > > Brett > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Please tell me about your experience with caliper braked Hillbornes.
Max, I tried converting a 1985 Trek 400 to 650b using the Tektro 559 brakes. I filed down the slots on the front to get them to work (barely). In retrospect I should have tried the DiaCompe 750 long reach center pulls which have 78mm of reach. Those brakes get mixed reviews but they sure have the required reach! Best of luck with your conversion. Rich On Wed, Aug 1, 2018 at 11:48 AM, Max S wrote: > Is the reach on Paul Racer the same as Tektro 559?.. (I've an old bike > that I'm converting to 650b and the Tektros seem to need an extra 2 mm or > so. So, I'm debating between splurging for the Racers or getting the frame > and fork modified to accept cantilevers.) > > - Max "endless projects" in A2 > > > On Wednesday, August 1, 2018 at 11:23:35 AM UTC-4, RichS wrote: >> >> Brett: >> >> Brett: >> >> My four year old Sam has Tektro 559 brakes and they work fine with >> fenders and 38mm tires. But I can confirm what Drew says: the Paul Racers >> are a step up. They have a nicer feel (smooth and solid is the best >> description I can provide). The additional clearance they provide over the >> Tektros is a bonus. If you have the cash and want to begin the addiction to >> Paul Components then go for it. You won't be disappointed. >> >> Best, >> Richard >> >> On Tuesday, July 31, 2018 at 5:36:35 PM UTC-4, Brett Callahan wrote: >>> >>> Friends, >>> >>> I'm considering the purchase of a lightly used Sam Hillborne--the >>> caliper brake version. The only thing giving me pause is that it has been a >>> while since I had anything with caliper brakes. The long reach required >>> would seem to limit my options to the Paul Racer Centerpulls and the >>> Tektro/Silver R559 brakes. Anyone want to share their experiences with >>> these brakes, particularly on the Hillborne? >>> >>> If money were no object, would replacing R559s with Pauls be a good >>> idea? (The bike would come with R559s on it, but I am who I am and will >>> look to tinker eventually...) >>> >>> For background, intended use is as a primarily on road bike with a small >>> front rack, 38mm tires, and fenders. I'm six foot two, and weigh 235-245. I >>> live in Portland, so the bike will be ridden in the rain. >>> >>> Thanks! >>> >>> Brett >>> >> -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the > Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To unsubscribe from this topic, visit https://groups.google.com/d/ > topic/rbw-owners-bunch/9zAPwv3aAMU/unsubscribe. > To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Please tell me about your experience with caliper braked Hillbornes.
Racers are listed 57-67, R559 55-73. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Please tell me about your experience with caliper braked Hillbornes.
Is the reach on Paul Racer the same as Tektro 559?.. (I've an old bike that I'm converting to 650b and the Tektros seem to need an extra 2 mm or so. So, I'm debating between splurging for the Racers or getting the frame and fork modified to accept cantilevers.) - Max "endless projects" in A2 On Wednesday, August 1, 2018 at 11:23:35 AM UTC-4, RichS wrote: > > Brett: > > Brett: > > My four year old Sam has Tektro 559 brakes and they work fine with fenders > and 38mm tires. But I can confirm what Drew says: the Paul Racers are a > step up. They have a nicer feel (smooth and solid is the best description I > can provide). The additional clearance they provide over the Tektros is a > bonus. If you have the cash and want to begin the addiction to Paul > Components then go for it. You won't be disappointed. > > Best, > Richard > > On Tuesday, July 31, 2018 at 5:36:35 PM UTC-4, Brett Callahan wrote: >> >> Friends, >> >> I'm considering the purchase of a lightly used Sam Hillborne--the caliper >> brake version. The only thing giving me pause is that it has been a while >> since I had anything with caliper brakes. The long reach required would >> seem to limit my options to the Paul Racer Centerpulls and the >> Tektro/Silver R559 brakes. Anyone want to share their experiences with >> these brakes, particularly on the Hillborne? >> >> If money were no object, would replacing R559s with Pauls be a good idea? >> (The bike would come with R559s on it, but I am who I am and will look to >> tinker eventually...) >> >> For background, intended use is as a primarily on road bike with a small >> front rack, 38mm tires, and fenders. I'm six foot two, and weigh 235-245. I >> live in Portland, so the bike will be ridden in the rain. >> >> Thanks! >> >> Brett >> > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Please tell me about your experience with caliper braked Hillbornes.
My sincere thanks to you all for your comments. I think I'll go ahead with the purchase. In the short term, I'll put kool stop pads on the Tektros and see how they feel. The consensus seems to be that the Paul's are a slight step up in power, but are more work to set up (fine with me) and vastly more expensive. I appreciate all of your input. Brett -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Please tell me about your experience with caliper braked Hillbornes.
Brett: Brett: My four year old Sam has Tektro 559 brakes and they work fine with fenders and 38mm tires. But I can confirm what Drew says: the Paul Racers are a step up. They have a nicer feel (smooth and solid is the best description I can provide). The additional clearance they provide over the Tektros is a bonus. If you have the cash and want to begin the addiction to Paul Components then go for it. You won't be disappointed. Best, Richard On Tuesday, July 31, 2018 at 5:36:35 PM UTC-4, Brett Callahan wrote: > > Friends, > > I'm considering the purchase of a lightly used Sam Hillborne--the caliper > brake version. The only thing giving me pause is that it has been a while > since I had anything with caliper brakes. The long reach required would > seem to limit my options to the Paul Racer Centerpulls and the > Tektro/Silver R559 brakes. Anyone want to share their experiences with > these brakes, particularly on the Hillborne? > > If money were no object, would replacing R559s with Pauls be a good idea? > (The bike would come with R559s on it, but I am who I am and will look to > tinker eventually...) > > For background, intended use is as a primarily on road bike with a small > front rack, 38mm tires, and fenders. I'm six foot two, and weigh 235-245. I > live in Portland, so the bike will be ridden in the rain. > > Thanks! > > Brett > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Please tell me about your experience with caliper braked Hillbornes.
Good call about brake pads, I don't have my R559 bike anymore and forgot I changed them. So my comparison about Racers and Tektros having about the same braking power correlates to replacement pads on the Tektros. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Please tell me about your experience with caliper braked Hillbornes.
Mine is my favorite bike. If I were to go to one bike, that would be the one. The Tektro calipers I'm using are ok, but Paul centerpulls would be better I'm sure. Marc On Tuesday, July 31, 2018 at 5:36:35 PM UTC-4, Brett Callahan wrote: > > Friends, > > I'm considering the purchase of a lightly used Sam Hillborne--the caliper > brake version. The only thing giving me pause is that it has been a while > since I had anything with caliper brakes. The long reach required would > seem to limit my options to the Paul Racer Centerpulls and the > Tektro/Silver R559 brakes. Anyone want to share their experiences with > these brakes, particularly on the Hillborne? > > If money were no object, would replacing R559s with Pauls be a good idea? > (The bike would come with R559s on it, but I am who I am and will look to > tinker eventually...) > > For background, intended use is as a primarily on road bike with a small > front rack, 38mm tires, and fenders. I'm six foot two, and weigh 235-245. I > live in Portland, so the bike will be ridden in the rain. > > Thanks! > > Brett > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Please tell me about your experience with caliper braked Hillbornes.
I have a Sam with the Tektro brakes and they are not great brakes but adequate and only after a pad change. They look good, nice sculpted lines and the finish of the brake is well done. Super easy to set up which is a bonus. The price is more than affordable so they have that going for them. If I had to do it again, I wouldn't buy them, but on the other hand you don't see me running out and buying the Paul's as a replacement. So I like them well enough to keep them on my bike but I have never been impressed. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Please tell me about your experience with caliper braked Hillbornes.
I had the stock Tektros on my Sam. Found them lacking. I'd been using Cantis for years,and this was my first forray into sidepulls in years. I think the long arms resulted in too much flex. They were easy to adjust, however. Easily the easiest brakes I've used to set up and maintain. But in wet Oregon, not so great for me. I use Paul Racer on a different bike, and they are heads and shoulders better for stopping. I don't care for their looks, but they work great. Worth the money to me. On Tuesday, July 31, 2018 at 2:36:35 PM UTC-7, Brett Callahan wrote: > > Friends, > > I'm considering the purchase of a lightly used Sam Hillborne--the caliper > brake version. The only thing giving me pause is that it has been a while > since I had anything with caliper brakes. The long reach required would > seem to limit my options to the Paul Racer Centerpulls and the > Tektro/Silver R559 brakes. Anyone want to share their experiences with > these brakes, particularly on the Hillborne? > > If money were no object, would replacing R559s with Pauls be a good idea? > (The bike would come with R559s on it, but I am who I am and will look to > tinker eventually...) > > For background, intended use is as a primarily on road bike with a small > front rack, 38mm tires, and fenders. I'm six foot two, and weigh 235-245. I > live in Portland, so the bike will be ridden in the rain. > > Thanks! > > Brett > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Please tell me about your experience with caliper braked Hillbornes.
Perhaps Paul stop you better than Tektro but my only comparison is that I had the 47-57mm reach Tektro and they stopped just as well as the Paul Racer, easier to setup as well. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Please tell me about your experience with caliper braked Hillbornes.
Paul Racers are my brake of choice, when I get to choose. I have them on two bikes, one of them a 650b rando with 42mm Hetres. They fit those tires fine, but I wouldn't bet they'd go much wider. Dave Boston/Indy On Tuesday, July 31, 2018 at 6:49:42 PM UTC-4, Brett Callahan wrote: > > Joe, that begs a question! How fat were you able to go under the Paul's? > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Please tell me about your experience with caliper braked Hillbornes.
Yeah I had 700x50 schwalbes on mine. No fenders, but not that tight. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Please tell me about your experience with caliper braked Hillbornes.
I have bikes with each on them right now. The racers are superior in stopping power, the perceived hand fatigue on long descents, less flexy so there’s a perception of more direct power transfer... get some compressionless brake housing as well. With both I clear 650bx42 and with Paul’s have cleared 650bx1.95 vee rubber xcx as well. -J -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Please tell me about your experience with caliper braked Hillbornes.
Brett, I forgot to mention I have a canti-Sam, & I am happy it's a Canti-sam. The racers are fun and cool looking, but the Paul neo retro (wide cantilevers) are what I prefer. They feel more solid and the power is better than the Racers IMO. best, Adam On Tuesday, July 31, 2018 at 2:36:35 PM UTC-7, Brett Callahan wrote: > > Friends, > > I'm considering the purchase of a lightly used Sam Hillborne--the caliper > brake version. The only thing giving me pause is that it has been a while > since I had anything with caliper brakes. The long reach required would > seem to limit my options to the Paul Racer Centerpulls and the > Tektro/Silver R559 brakes. Anyone want to share their experiences with > these brakes, particularly on the Hillborne? > > If money were no object, would replacing R559s with Pauls be a good idea? > (The bike would come with R559s on it, but I am who I am and will look to > tinker eventually...) > > For background, intended use is as a primarily on road bike with a small > front rack, 38mm tires, and fenders. I'm six foot two, and weigh 235-245. I > live in Portland, so the bike will be ridden in the rain. > > Thanks! > > Brett > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Please tell me about your experience with caliper braked Hillbornes.
I'm afraid I'm not much help with tires. My Racers are currently covering 30mm rubber with acres of clearance remaining, and I think 35 is the most I've ever used with them. That's skinny stuff for those brakes. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Please tell me about your experience with caliper braked Hillbornes.
Joe, that begs a question! How fat were you able to go under the Paul's? I find the Paul's to have an industrial chic that is great, but the reason I keep buying their brakes is that they work great. My experience with Tektros has been more mixed, but they're a great value. I'll start with the Tektros and give them a few months. Thanks! Brett On Tuesday, July 31, 2018 at 3:27:13 PM UTC-7, Joe Bernard wrote: > > Brett: As Will @ Riv explained it to me the main benefit of Racers is fat > tire clearance -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Please tell me about your experience with caliper braked Hillbornes.
Brett, I had a caliper-braked Homer that came with the R559 caliper brakes that I eventually swapped for the Paul Racers. The R559's were great brakes, but flexy due to the long arms - I think some people would consider this beneficial added modulation, and some would consider it annoying. You could always use compressionless housing to reduce this sensation if you wanted to. I bought the Pauls for aesthetic/MUSA reasons, and they are a bit less squishy, though not a squish-free brake (they now live on my Cheviot). The Paul's certainly look good and brake well - no arguing there. I'd say deciding between these two brakes, you certainly are limited, but they're both good options. One small thing to note: centerpulls and cantilevers have exposed cable running from the housing stop to the straddle hanger, and if you use a bag like the Swift Fabio's Chest or Zeitgeist, the bag will sit on the cable and potentially compress the brake. I have experienced this using the Paul centerpulls and canti's, and have since moved to using racks with tombstones to support the bags and hold them off the brake cable. you CAN use one of those housing stops that lives at the fork crown (and I've heard they reduce chatter somewhat) but in my opinion they look kinda bad. This problem does not exist with Vbrakes and Sidepulls since the housing runs all the way to the brake. On Tuesday, July 31, 2018 at 2:36:35 PM UTC-7, Brett Callahan wrote: > > Friends, > > I'm considering the purchase of a lightly used Sam Hillborne--the caliper > brake version. The only thing giving me pause is that it has been a while > since I had anything with caliper brakes. The long reach required would > seem to limit my options to the Paul Racer Centerpulls and the > Tektro/Silver R559 brakes. Anyone want to share their experiences with > these brakes, particularly on the Hillborne? > > If money were no object, would replacing R559s with Pauls be a good idea? > (The bike would come with R559s on it, but I am who I am and will look to > tinker eventually...) > > For background, intended use is as a primarily on road bike with a small > front rack, 38mm tires, and fenders. I'm six foot two, and weigh 235-245. I > live in Portland, so the bike will be ridden in the rain. > > Thanks! > > Brett > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
