[RBW] Re: Rosco Platy build, v1.0

[Mackenzy Albright]

Very nice build! There's a lot of nice little details in there like the 
noodle cable routing and clean bell mounting. I bet this is an absolute 
dream ride for your wife. I can't wait to see more of builds of these 
frames. 

On Friday, September 30, 2022 at 5:39:15 AM UTC-7 allan@gmail.com wrote:

> As with all things, plans and reality don’t always coincide but in this 
> case my wife is very pleased with her new ride. Most of the parts were 
> assembled on an old Royce Union mixte test mule that served for the time 
> it’s taken to receive the Rosco Platy. 
>
> The saddle is her favorite… and still to come, Al fender.
>
> Photos here:
> https://flickr.com/photos/78369585@N03/sets/72177720302507847  
> 
>
> Partial component list:
>
> Nitto B347 Dove bars
>
> Nitto NTC-225X110 stem w/ Crane bell
>
> Riv Silver 1 shifters
>
> Riv ThumbShifter Mount handlebar clamp for Silver shifters
>
> Shimano un-300 118x68 bb
>
> VO crank w/ TA 26-42 rings 
>
> Shimano XT CS-M771 11-36T cassette
>
> Shimano deore dx rd-m650
>
> Shimano claris fd-r2000
>
> 10 sp chain 
>
> Dia-Compe NCG-982 brakes
>
> Kool Stop Cross Brake Pads
>
> Dia-Compe SS-6 brake levers
>
> Pitlock seatpost clamp w/ 34.9 to 29.8 shim
>
> Nitto cable stop AS-2
>
> Ukai rims/Suzue hubs
>
> Grand Bois 584-42 Hetre, extra light tires
>
> RH UD-2 cantilever front rack
>
>
> Allan McLane
>
> Marlboro, Vermont
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Rosco Platy!

[James]

I'm eager to hear ride reports on this bike.  I have been considering 
getting a Cheviot or Platty on the second-hand market but maybe this is a 
good (and available) alternative.  

On Tuesday, September 20, 2022 at 11:59:33 PM UTC-4 J Imler wrote:

> [image: 147CB098-4BB7-44E6-8409-93EC7BDABCF7.png]
>
> Sweet Roscoe. I’ve got a Paul Melvin on my Clem. Per the install 
> directions. your chain length may need adjusted, unless you don’t intend to 
> use the small front ring? See 4b above.
>
>
>
>
>
> On Tuesday, September 20, 2022 at 7:32:24 PM UTC-7 Paul Choi wrote:
>
>> Feels lighter more responsive then my previous Clem L. More like a 
>> step-thru Sam. I need to give some thanks to Pastor Raymond who took the 
>> parts off my Clem H and built this up for me. 
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Paul
>>
>> On Monday, September 19, 2022 at 4:39:59 PM UTC-7 Eric Daume wrote:
>>
>>> I need to give it some more time before I get any ride impressions. I've 
>>> only ridden it for a few miles so far. It's smooth, but my previous rides 
>>> were mostly on either 20" wheeled folding bikes or my fixed gear with 28mm 
>>> tires :)
>>>
>>> Joe, the brakes are Avid Shorty something, a great co-op find for me. 
>>> Great power, easy set up, excellent modulation. Maybe the pinnacle of canti 
>>> brakes, before V brakes and then discs took over.
>>>
>>> Eric
>>>
>>> On Mon, Sep 19, 2022 at 7:34 PM Leah Peterson  
>>> wrote:
>>>
 The first one we’ve seen in real life! How did it ride for you? Too 
 soon to tell? It looks great in purple.

>>> Leah

 Sent from my iPhone

 On Sep 19, 2022, at 7:31 PM, Eric Daume  wrote:

 I couldn’t call in sick, but the build went smoothly and I was able to 
 take a quick shake down ride this evening. Still to do are all of the 
 accessories: lights, fenders, kickstand, bag, etc. Those will probably 
 take 
 as long as the build. 

 I was able to use canti brakes with a hanger fastened between the rear 
 rack mounts. Works fine!

 Eric



 On Monday, September 19, 2022, Joe Bernard  wrote:

 Call in sick!
>
> On Monday, September 19, 2022 at 9:35:37 AM UTC-7 Eric Daume wrote:
>
 It’s here. Unfortunately I’m in meetings all afternoon :(
>>
>> On Thursday, September 15, 2022, Richard Rose  
>> wrote:
>>
>>> A Rosco in Ohio? Cool.
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>> On Sep 15, 2022, at 6:57 PM, Eric Daume  wrote:
>>>
>>> 
>>> Mine has reached IL on its way to OH.
>>>
>>> UPS says Monday, but maybe Saturday?
>>>
>>> Eric
>>>
>>> On Thu, Sep 15, 2022 at 7:56 AM Leah Peterson  
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hope Cyclery posted a Rosco box in their IG Stories. Maybe they’ll 
 show us the bike built up?

 Sent from my iPhone

 On Sep 12, 2022, at 10:17 AM, Doug H.  wrote:

 It would be nice to hear a ride report from someone who has ridden 
 both the lugged Platy and the new Rosco Platy. And, I can't wait to 
 see 
 some build photos too!
 Doug

 On Sunday, September 11, 2022 at 2:06:32 PM UTC-4 Eric Daume wrote:

> I got my shipping invoice, so maybe it's coming? I have the parts 
> all set out for it, though I'm still dithering on the handlebar.
>
> Eric
>
> On Sun, Sep 11, 2022 at 12:52 PM Leah Peterson <
> jonasa...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Has anyone gotten and built up a Rosco Platy yet? I’m so excited 
>> to see one. Riv said in this week’s newsletter that they have begun 
>> shipping. Or maybe folks are picking them up from HQ. Hope so!
>> L
>>
>> On Sep 1, 2022, at 7:25 PM, Joe Bernard  
>> wrote:
>>
>> Bo on the waiting. I got my custom quicker than this! 
>>
>> On Thursday, September 1, 2022 at 1:47:59 PM UTC-7 Bicycle Belle 
>> Ding Ding! wrote:
>>
>>> Eric, yes, so frustrating. The 2022 Platys were actually 
>>> supposed to be here in May, then August, now October. And the Rosco 
>>> Plats 
>>> being delayed even though they are in the shop is so sad. If I had 
>>> one on 
>>> order and lived within a 12 hour drive of Walnut Creek, I’d spend 
>>> Labor Day 
>>> driving to get my bike. 
>>>
>>> It’s extra sad for those who live in certain parts of the 
>>> country - winter is coming. 
>>>
>>> Leah
>>>
>>> On Sep 1, 2022, at 4:30 PM, Johnny Alien  
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> They original target for these was May I think. I knew with the 
>>> supply chain issues there would be problems and thats why I 
>>> ultimately 
>>> decided to go with a Clem L. A decision I have been very h

Re: [RBW] Re: Rosco Platy!

[Joe Bernard]

2-speed with Paul tensioner, I had a Cheviot set up that way. Super simple 
and fun, that's a nice bike! 

On Tuesday, September 20, 2022 at 7:32:24 PM UTC-7 Paul Choi wrote:

> Feels lighter more responsive then my previous Clem L. More like a 
> step-thru Sam. I need to give some thanks to Pastor Raymond who took the 
> parts off my Clem H and built this up for me. 
>
> Cheers,
>
> Paul
>
> On Monday, September 19, 2022 at 4:39:59 PM UTC-7 Eric Daume wrote:
>
>> I need to give it some more time before I get any ride impressions. I've 
>> only ridden it for a few miles so far. It's smooth, but my previous rides 
>> were mostly on either 20" wheeled folding bikes or my fixed gear with 28mm 
>> tires :)
>>
>> Joe, the brakes are Avid Shorty something, a great co-op find for me. 
>> Great power, easy set up, excellent modulation. Maybe the pinnacle of canti 
>> brakes, before V brakes and then discs took over.
>>
>> Eric
>>
>> On Mon, Sep 19, 2022 at 7:34 PM Leah Peterson  
>> wrote:
>>
>>> The first one we’ve seen in real life! How did it ride for you? Too soon 
>>> to tell? It looks great in purple.
>>>
>> Leah
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>> On Sep 19, 2022, at 7:31 PM, Eric Daume  wrote:
>>>
>>> I couldn’t call in sick, but the build went smoothly and I was able to 
>>> take a quick shake down ride this evening. Still to do are all of the 
>>> accessories: lights, fenders, kickstand, bag, etc. Those will probably take 
>>> as long as the build. 
>>>
>>> I was able to use canti brakes with a hanger fastened between the rear 
>>> rack mounts. Works fine!
>>>
>>> Eric
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Monday, September 19, 2022, Joe Bernard  wrote:
>>>
>>> Call in sick!

 On Monday, September 19, 2022 at 9:35:37 AM UTC-7 Eric Daume wrote:

>>> It’s here. Unfortunately I’m in meetings all afternoon :(
>
> On Thursday, September 15, 2022, Richard Rose  
> wrote:
>
>> A Rosco in Ohio? Cool.
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Sep 15, 2022, at 6:57 PM, Eric Daume  wrote:
>>
>> 
>> Mine has reached IL on its way to OH.
>>
>> UPS says Monday, but maybe Saturday?
>>
>> Eric
>>
>> On Thu, Sep 15, 2022 at 7:56 AM Leah Peterson  
>> wrote:
>>
>> Hope Cyclery posted a Rosco box in their IG Stories. Maybe they’ll 
>>> show us the bike built up?
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>> On Sep 12, 2022, at 10:17 AM, Doug H.  wrote:
>>>
>>> It would be nice to hear a ride report from someone who has ridden 
>>> both the lugged Platy and the new Rosco Platy. And, I can't wait to see 
>>> some build photos too!
>>> Doug
>>>
>>> On Sunday, September 11, 2022 at 2:06:32 PM UTC-4 Eric Daume wrote:
>>>
 I got my shipping invoice, so maybe it's coming? I have the parts 
 all set out for it, though I'm still dithering on the handlebar.

 Eric

 On Sun, Sep 11, 2022 at 12:52 PM Leah Peterson  
 wrote:

> Has anyone gotten and built up a Rosco Platy yet? I’m so excited 
> to see one. Riv said in this week’s newsletter that they have begun 
> shipping. Or maybe folks are picking them up from HQ. Hope so!
> L
>
> On Sep 1, 2022, at 7:25 PM, Joe Bernard  wrote:
>
> Bo on the waiting. I got my custom quicker than this! 
>
> On Thursday, September 1, 2022 at 1:47:59 PM UTC-7 Bicycle Belle 
> Ding Ding! wrote:
>
>> Eric, yes, so frustrating. The 2022 Platys were actually supposed 
>> to be here in May, then August, now October. And the Rosco Plats 
>> being 
>> delayed even though they are in the shop is so sad. If I had one on 
>> order 
>> and lived within a 12 hour drive of Walnut Creek, I’d spend Labor 
>> Day 
>> driving to get my bike. 
>>
>> It’s extra sad for those who live in certain parts of the country 
>> - winter is coming. 
>>
>> Leah
>>
>> On Sep 1, 2022, at 4:30 PM, Johnny Alien  
>> wrote:
>>
>> They original target for these was May I think. I knew with the 
>> supply chain issues there would be problems and thats why I 
>> ultimately 
>> decided to go with a Clem L. A decision I have been very happy with. 
>> Not 
>> because the bikes got majorly delayed but because I love my Clem.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thursday, September 1, 2022 at 3:59:40 PM UTC-4 Eric Daume 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> From this week's email:
>>>
>>> Even though the (Roadini) frames are here, we just finished 
>>> sending out the last of the Atlantis framesets and still have 
>>> Atlantis 
>>> builds in the queue. After that we have all the Rosco Platypus 
>>> frames to 
>>> either

Re: [RBW] Re: Rosco Platy!

[Joe Bernard]

That's a nifty brake hanger solution! What brakes? They kinda remind me of 
Bruce Gordon and a couple others from the '90s whose names escape me now. 

On Monday, September 19, 2022 at 4:31:33 PM UTC-7 Eric Daume wrote:

> I couldn’t call in sick, but the build went smoothly and I was able to 
> take a quick shake down ride this evening. Still to do are all of the 
> accessories: lights, fenders, kickstand, bag, etc. Those will probably take 
> as long as the build. 
>
> I was able to use canti brakes with a hanger fastened between the rear 
> rack mounts. Works fine!
>
> Eric
>
>
> On Monday, September 19, 2022, Joe Bernard  wrote:
>
>> Call in sick!
>>
>> On Monday, September 19, 2022 at 9:35:37 AM UTC-7 Eric Daume wrote:
>>
> It’s here. Unfortunately I’m in meetings all afternoon :(
>>>
>>> On Thursday, September 15, 2022, Richard Rose  wrote:
>>>
 A Rosco in Ohio? Cool.

 Sent from my iPhone

 On Sep 15, 2022, at 6:57 PM, Eric Daume  wrote:

 
 Mine has reached IL on its way to OH.

 UPS says Monday, but maybe Saturday?

 Eric

 On Thu, Sep 15, 2022 at 7:56 AM Leah Peterson  
 wrote:

 Hope Cyclery posted a Rosco box in their IG Stories. Maybe they’ll show 
> us the bike built up?
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Sep 12, 2022, at 10:17 AM, Doug H.  wrote:
>
> It would be nice to hear a ride report from someone who has ridden 
> both the lugged Platy and the new Rosco Platy. And, I can't wait to see 
> some build photos too!
> Doug
>
> On Sunday, September 11, 2022 at 2:06:32 PM UTC-4 Eric Daume wrote:
>
>> I got my shipping invoice, so maybe it's coming? I have the parts all 
>> set out for it, though I'm still dithering on the handlebar.
>>
>> Eric
>>
>> On Sun, Sep 11, 2022 at 12:52 PM Leah Peterson  
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Has anyone gotten and built up a Rosco Platy yet? I’m so excited to 
>>> see one. Riv said in this week’s newsletter that they have begun 
>>> shipping. 
>>> Or maybe folks are picking them up from HQ. Hope so!
>>> L
>>>
>>> On Sep 1, 2022, at 7:25 PM, Joe Bernard  wrote:
>>>
>>> Bo on the waiting. I got my custom quicker than this! 
>>>
>>> On Thursday, September 1, 2022 at 1:47:59 PM UTC-7 Bicycle Belle 
>>> Ding Ding! wrote:
>>>
 Eric, yes, so frustrating. The 2022 Platys were actually supposed 
 to be here in May, then August, now October. And the Rosco Plats being 
 delayed even though they are in the shop is so sad. If I had one on 
 order 
 and lived within a 12 hour drive of Walnut Creek, I’d spend Labor Day 
 driving to get my bike. 

 It’s extra sad for those who live in certain parts of the country - 
 winter is coming. 

 Leah

 On Sep 1, 2022, at 4:30 PM, Johnny Alien  
 wrote:

 They original target for these was May I think. I knew with the 
 supply chain issues there would be problems and thats why I ultimately 
 decided to go with a Clem L. A decision I have been very happy with. 
 Not 
 because the bikes got majorly delayed but because I love my Clem.



 On Thursday, September 1, 2022 at 3:59:40 PM UTC-4 Eric Daume wrote:

> From this week's email:
>
> Even though the (Roadini) frames are here, we just finished 
> sending out the last of the Atlantis framesets and still have 
> Atlantis 
> builds in the queue. After that we have all the Rosco Platypus frames 
> to 
> either build up or send out, so please be OK with a long lead time, 
> about *a 
> month and a half,* and maybe slightly less for framesets.
>
> So the RP's won't go until the Atlantis bikes get built? Even the 
> frames that are just getting passed on? This is super frustrating.
>
> Eric
>
> On Tue, Aug 2, 2022 at 8:32 PM Eric Daume  
> wrote:
>
>>  I did confirm with Riv that the post is a 29.8mm.
>>
>> Compared to the usual 26.8mm on other Rivs, this does raise the 
>> option of adding a dropper post :)
>>
>> On Mon, Jul 18, 2022 at 4:25 PM Joe Bernard  
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I believe (I can't find the spec now, maybe it was in a Riv 
>>> email) the seatpost on these is 29.8. There's no Funky Monkey big 
>>> enough. 
>>>
>>> On Monday, July 18, 2022 at 1:16:13 PM UTC-7 Lucky wrote:
>>>
 Ok I finally have to ask if there’s a reason one could not use 
 something like a Paul Funky Monkey rear cable hanger for seatpost? 
 Or a 
 similar cheaper device? I understand that it fixes the seat pretty 
>>

Re: [RBW] Re: Rosco Platy!

[Joe Bernard]

Call in sick!

On Monday, September 19, 2022 at 9:35:37 AM UTC-7 Eric Daume wrote:

> It’s here. Unfortunately I’m in meetings all afternoon :(
>
> On Thursday, September 15, 2022, Richard Rose  wrote:
>
>> A Rosco in Ohio? Cool.
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Sep 15, 2022, at 6:57 PM, Eric Daume  wrote:
>>
>> 
>> Mine has reached IL on its way to OH.
>>
>> UPS says Monday, but maybe Saturday?
>>
>> Eric
>>
>> On Thu, Sep 15, 2022 at 7:56 AM Leah Peterson  
>> wrote:
>>
>> Hope Cyclery posted a Rosco box in their IG Stories. Maybe they’ll show 
>>> us the bike built up?
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>> On Sep 12, 2022, at 10:17 AM, Doug H.  wrote:
>>>
>>> It would be nice to hear a ride report from someone who has ridden both 
>>> the lugged Platy and the new Rosco Platy. And, I can't wait to see some 
>>> build photos too!
>>> Doug
>>>
>>> On Sunday, September 11, 2022 at 2:06:32 PM UTC-4 Eric Daume wrote:
>>>
 I got my shipping invoice, so maybe it's coming? I have the parts all 
 set out for it, though I'm still dithering on the handlebar.

 Eric

 On Sun, Sep 11, 2022 at 12:52 PM Leah Peterson  
 wrote:

> Has anyone gotten and built up a Rosco Platy yet? I’m so excited to 
> see one. Riv said in this week’s newsletter that they have begun 
> shipping. 
> Or maybe folks are picking them up from HQ. Hope so!
> L
>
> On Sep 1, 2022, at 7:25 PM, Joe Bernard  wrote:
>
> Bo on the waiting. I got my custom quicker than this! 
>
> On Thursday, September 1, 2022 at 1:47:59 PM UTC-7 Bicycle Belle Ding 
> Ding! wrote:
>
>> Eric, yes, so frustrating. The 2022 Platys were actually supposed to 
>> be here in May, then August, now October. And the Rosco Plats being 
>> delayed 
>> even though they are in the shop is so sad. If I had one on order and 
>> lived 
>> within a 12 hour drive of Walnut Creek, I’d spend Labor Day driving to 
>> get 
>> my bike. 
>>
>> It’s extra sad for those who live in certain parts of the country - 
>> winter is coming. 
>>
>> Leah
>>
>> On Sep 1, 2022, at 4:30 PM, Johnny Alien  
>> wrote:
>>
>> They original target for these was May I think. I knew with the 
>> supply chain issues there would be problems and thats why I ultimately 
>> decided to go with a Clem L. A decision I have been very happy with. Not 
>> because the bikes got majorly delayed but because I love my Clem.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thursday, September 1, 2022 at 3:59:40 PM UTC-4 Eric Daume wrote:
>>
>>> From this week's email:
>>>
>>> Even though the (Roadini) frames are here, we just finished sending 
>>> out the last of the Atlantis framesets and still have Atlantis builds 
>>> in 
>>> the queue. After that we have all the Rosco Platypus frames to either 
>>> build 
>>> up or send out, so please be OK with a long lead time, about *a 
>>> month and a half,* and maybe slightly less for framesets.
>>>
>>> So the RP's won't go until the Atlantis bikes get built? Even the 
>>> frames that are just getting passed on? This is super frustrating.
>>>
>>> Eric
>>>
>>> On Tue, Aug 2, 2022 at 8:32 PM Eric Daume  wrote:
>>>
  I did confirm with Riv that the post is a 29.8mm.

 Compared to the usual 26.8mm on other Rivs, this does raise the 
 option of adding a dropper post :)

 On Mon, Jul 18, 2022 at 4:25 PM Joe Bernard  
 wrote:

> I believe (I can't find the spec now, maybe it was in a Riv email) 
> the seatpost on these is 29.8. There's no Funky Monkey big enough. 
>
> On Monday, July 18, 2022 at 1:16:13 PM UTC-7 Lucky wrote:
>
>> Ok I finally have to ask if there’s a reason one could not use 
>> something like a Paul Funky Monkey rear cable hanger for seatpost? 
>> Or a 
>> similar cheaper device? I understand that it fixes the seat pretty 
>> well in 
>> place but otherwise?
>>
>> On Jul 18, 2022, at 12:37, Wesley  wrote:
>>
>> If I were looking to mount cantilevers on a Rosco Platy, I'd use 
>> a small loop of Spectra or Dyneema (high tech rope that's stronger 
>> than 
>> steel and doesn't stretch). Loop it through a cable anger and around 
>> the 
>> seat post stub like this, and you'd have a totally functional & 
>> totally 
>> unique brake setup: 
>>
>> [image: seatpost-line.png]
>> -W
>> On Monday, July 18, 2022 at 11:13:51 AM UTC-7 allan@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I called and asked about that forward-facing seat clamp because 
>>> I have a NOS set of Dia Compe NGC 982 cantis that I have been 
>>> saving aside 
>>> for a mermaid Platypus bui

Re: [RBW] Re: Rosco Platy!

[Richard Rose]

A Rosco in Ohio? Cool.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 15, 2022, at 6:57 PM, Eric Daume  wrote:
> 
> 
> Mine has reached IL on its way to OH.
> 
> UPS says Monday, but maybe Saturday?
> 
> Eric
> 
>> On Thu, Sep 15, 2022 at 7:56 AM Leah Peterson  
>> wrote:
>> Hope Cyclery posted a Rosco box in their IG Stories. Maybe they’ll show us 
>> the bike built up?
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
 On Sep 12, 2022, at 10:17 AM, Doug H.  wrote:
 
>>> It would be nice to hear a ride report from someone who has ridden both 
>>> the lugged Platy and the new Rosco Platy. And, I can't wait to see some 
>>> build photos too!
>>> Doug
>>> 
 On Sunday, September 11, 2022 at 2:06:32 PM UTC-4 Eric Daume wrote:
 I got my shipping invoice, so maybe it's coming? I have the parts all set 
 out for it, though I'm still dithering on the handlebar.
 
 Eric
 
> On Sun, Sep 11, 2022 at 12:52 PM Leah Peterson  
> wrote:
> Has anyone gotten and built up a Rosco Platy yet? I’m so excited to see 
> one. Riv said in this week’s newsletter that they have begun shipping. Or 
> maybe folks are picking them up from HQ. Hope so!
> L
> 
>>> On Sep 1, 2022, at 7:25 PM, Joe Bernard  wrote:
>>> 
>> Bo on the waiting. I got my custom quicker than this! 
>> 
>>> On Thursday, September 1, 2022 at 1:47:59 PM UTC-7 Bicycle Belle Ding 
>>> Ding! wrote:
>>> Eric, yes, so frustrating. The 2022 Platys were actually supposed to be 
>>> here in May, then August, now October. And the Rosco Plats being 
>>> delayed even though they are in the shop is so sad. If I had one on 
>>> order and lived within a 12 hour drive of Walnut Creek, I’d spend Labor 
>>> Day driving to get my bike. 
>>> 
>>> It’s extra sad for those who live in certain parts of the country - 
>>> winter is coming. 
>>> 
>>> Leah
>>> 
> On Sep 1, 2022, at 4:30 PM, Johnny Alien  wrote:
> 
 They original target for these was May I think. I knew with the 
 supply chain issues there would be problems and thats why I ultimately 
 decided to go with a Clem L. A decision I have been very happy with. 
 Not because the bikes got majorly delayed but because I love my Clem.
>>> 
 
 
> On Thursday, September 1, 2022 at 3:59:40 PM UTC-4 Eric Daume wrote:
> From this week's email:
> 
> Even though the (Roadini) frames are here, we just finished sending 
> out the last of the Atlantis framesets and still have Atlantis builds 
> in the queue. After that we have all the Rosco Platypus frames to 
> either build up or send out, so please be OK with a long lead time, 
> about a month and a half, and maybe slightly less for framesets.
> 
> So the RP's won't go until the Atlantis bikes get built? Even the 
> frames that are just getting passed on? This is super frustrating.
> 
> Eric
> 
>> On Tue, Aug 2, 2022 at 8:32 PM Eric Daume  wrote:
>>  I did confirm with Riv that the post is a 29.8mm.
>> 
>> Compared to the usual 26.8mm on other Rivs, this does raise the 
>> option of adding a dropper post :)
>> 
>>> On Mon, Jul 18, 2022 at 4:25 PM Joe Bernard  
>>> wrote:
>>> I believe (I can't find the spec now, maybe it was in a Riv email) 
>>> the seatpost on these is 29.8. There's no Funky Monkey big enough. 
>>> 
 On Monday, July 18, 2022 at 1:16:13 PM UTC-7 Lucky wrote:
 Ok I finally have to ask if there’s a reason one could not use 
 something like a Paul Funky Monkey rear cable hanger for seatpost? 
 Or a similar cheaper device? I understand that it fixes the seat 
 pretty well in place but otherwise?
 
>> On Jul 18, 2022, at 12:37, Wesley  wrote:
>> 
> If I were looking to mount cantilevers on a Rosco Platy, I'd use 
> a small loop of Spectra or Dyneema (high tech rope that's 
> stronger than steel and doesn't stretch). Loop it through a cable 
> anger and around the seat post stub like this, and you'd have a 
> totally functional & totally unique brake setup: 
 
> 
> -W
>> On Monday, July 18, 2022 at 11:13:51 AM UTC-7 
>> allan@gmail.com wrote:
>> I called and asked about that forward-facing seat clamp because 
>> I have a NOS set of Dia Compe NGC 982 cantis that I have been 
>> saving aside for a mermaid Platypus build for my wife. We both 
>> got tired of waiting for the next Platy shipment and, per a 
>> conversation with Grant, the Rosco Platy has nearly identical 
>> geometry so we getting a green 50 cm frame instead. 
>>>

Re: [RBW] Re: Rosco Platy!

[Leah Peterson]

Oh, I hope Saturday! 🤞 How far are you from Grand Rapids, MI? I want you to bring that Rosco Plat to our Riv Ride! 😍 (October 15!)Sent from my iPhoneOn Sep 15, 2022, at 6:57 PM, Eric Daume  wrote:Mine has reached IL on its way to OH.UPS says Monday, but maybe Saturday?EricOn Thu, Sep 15, 2022 at 7:56 AM Leah Peterson  wrote:Hope Cyclery posted a Rosco box in their IG Stories. Maybe they’ll show us the bike built up?Sent from my iPhoneOn Sep 12, 2022, at 10:17 AM, Doug H.  wrote:It would be nice to hear a ride report from someone who has ridden both the lugged Platy and the new Rosco Platy. And, I can't wait to see some build photos too!DougOn Sunday, September 11, 2022 at 2:06:32 PM UTC-4 Eric Daume wrote:I got my shipping invoice, so maybe it's coming? I have the parts all set out for it, though I'm still dithering on the handlebar.EricOn Sun, Sep 11, 2022 at 12:52 PM Leah Peterson  wrote:Has anyone gotten and built up a Rosco Platy yet? I’m so excited to see one. Riv said in this week’s newsletter that they have begun shipping. Or maybe folks are picking them up from HQ. Hope so!LOn Sep 1, 2022, at 7:25 PM, Joe Bernard  wrote:Bo on the waiting. I got my custom quicker than this! On Thursday, September 1, 2022 at 1:47:59 PM UTC-7 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! wrote:Eric, yes, so frustrating. The 2022 Platys were actually supposed to be here in May, then August, now October. And the Rosco Plats being delayed even though they are in the shop is so sad. If I had one on order and lived within a 12 hour drive of Walnut Creek, I’d spend Labor Day driving to get my bike. It’s extra sad for those who live in certain parts of the country - winter is coming. LeahOn Sep 1, 2022, at 4:30 PM, Johnny Alien  wrote:They original target for these was May I think. I knew with the supply chain issues there would be problems and thats why I ultimately decided to go with a Clem L. A decision I have been very happy with. Not because the bikes got majorly delayed but because I love my Clem.On Thursday, September 1, 2022 at 3:59:40 PM UTC-4 Eric Daume wrote:From this week's email:Even though the (Roadini) frames are here, we just finished sending out the last of the Atlantis framesets and still have Atlantis builds in the queue. After that we have all the Rosco Platypus frames to either build up or send out, so please be OK with a long lead time, about a month and a half, and maybe slightly less for framesets.So the RP's won't go until the Atlantis bikes get built? Even the frames that are just getting passed on? This is super frustrating.EricOn Tue, Aug 2, 2022 at 8:32 PM Eric Daume  wrote: I did confirm with Riv that the post is a 29.8mm.Compared to the usual 26.8mm on other Rivs, this does raise the option of adding a dropper post :)On Mon, Jul 18, 2022 at 4:25 PM Joe Bernard  wrote:I believe (I can't find the spec now, maybe it was in a Riv email) the seatpost on these is 29.8. There's no Funky Monkey big enough. On Monday, July 18, 2022 at 1:16:13 PM UTC-7 Lucky wrote:Ok I finally have to ask if there’s a reason one could not use something like a Paul Funky Monkey rear cable hanger for seatpost? Or a similar cheaper device? I understand that it fixes the seat pretty well in place but otherwise?On Jul 18, 2022, at 12:37, Wesley  wrote:If I were looking to mount cantilevers on a Rosco Platy, I'd use a small loop of Spectra or Dyneema (high tech rope that's stronger than steel and doesn't stretch). Loop it through a cable anger and around the seat post stub like this, and you'd have a totally functional & totally unique brake setup: -WOn Monday, July 18, 2022 at 11:13:51 AM UTC-7 allan@gmail.com wrote:I called and asked about that forward-facing seat clamp because I have a NOS set of Dia Compe NGC 982 cantis that I have been saving aside for a mermaid Platypus build for my wife. We both got tired of waiting for the next Platy shipment and, per a conversation with Grant, the Rosco Platy has nearly identical geometry so we getting a green 50 cm frame instead. Anyway, Will told me that the seat clamp lug was designed for the tandem frames and that they had been worried about too much heat weakening the seat tube in that area during fabrication. Turns out that the seat stays ended up being welded lower down and further away from the lug so they decided to use up those clamp lugs somewhere else.My plan is to put a collar around the seatpost (29.8mm) and anchor a Nitto long cable hanger from there. It’ll be a minor inconvenience to adjust the collar whenever the seat height needs changing but it’s not a frequent or big deal to me.The collar: Looking forward to getting this frame!Allan in Marlboro, Vermont On Friday, July 15, 2022 at 7:30:49 PM UTC-4 Garth wrote:The ETT measurement is done so horizontally

Re: [RBW] Re: Rosco Platy!

[Eric Daume]

Mine has reached IL on its way to OH.

UPS says Monday, but maybe Saturday?

Eric

On Thu, Sep 15, 2022 at 7:56 AM Leah Peterson 
wrote:

> Hope Cyclery posted a Rosco box in their IG Stories. Maybe they’ll show us
> the bike built up?
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Sep 12, 2022, at 10:17 AM, Doug H.  wrote:
>
> It would be nice to hear a ride report from someone who has ridden both
> the lugged Platy and the new Rosco Platy. And, I can't wait to see some
> build photos too!
> Doug
>
> On Sunday, September 11, 2022 at 2:06:32 PM UTC-4 Eric Daume wrote:
>
>> I got my shipping invoice, so maybe it's coming? I have the parts all set
>> out for it, though I'm still dithering on the handlebar.
>>
>> Eric
>>
>> On Sun, Sep 11, 2022 at 12:52 PM Leah Peterson 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Has anyone gotten and built up a Rosco Platy yet? I’m so excited to see
>>> one. Riv said in this week’s newsletter that they have begun shipping. Or
>>> maybe folks are picking them up from HQ. Hope so!
>>> L
>>>
>>> On Sep 1, 2022, at 7:25 PM, Joe Bernard  wrote:
>>>
>>> Bo on the waiting. I got my custom quicker than this!
>>>
>>> On Thursday, September 1, 2022 at 1:47:59 PM UTC-7 Bicycle Belle Ding
>>> Ding! wrote:
>>>
 Eric, yes, so frustrating. The 2022 Platys were actually supposed to be
 here in May, then August, now October. And the Rosco Plats being delayed
 even though they are in the shop is so sad. If I had one on order and lived
 within a 12 hour drive of Walnut Creek, I’d spend Labor Day driving to get
 my bike.

 It’s extra sad for those who live in certain parts of the country -
 winter is coming.

 Leah

 On Sep 1, 2022, at 4:30 PM, Johnny Alien  wrote:

 They original target for these was May I think. I knew with the supply
 chain issues there would be problems and thats why I ultimately decided to
 go with a Clem L. A decision I have been very happy with. Not because the
 bikes got majorly delayed but because I love my Clem.



 On Thursday, September 1, 2022 at 3:59:40 PM UTC-4 Eric Daume wrote:

> From this week's email:
>
> Even though the (Roadini) frames are here, we just finished sending
> out the last of the Atlantis framesets and still have Atlantis builds in
> the queue. After that we have all the Rosco Platypus frames to either 
> build
> up or send out, so please be OK with a long lead time, about *a month
> and a half,* and maybe slightly less for framesets.
>
> So the RP's won't go until the Atlantis bikes get built? Even the
> frames that are just getting passed on? This is super frustrating.
>
> Eric
>
> On Tue, Aug 2, 2022 at 8:32 PM Eric Daume  wrote:
>
>>  I did confirm with Riv that the post is a 29.8mm.
>>
>> Compared to the usual 26.8mm on other Rivs, this does raise the
>> option of adding a dropper post :)
>>
>> On Mon, Jul 18, 2022 at 4:25 PM Joe Bernard 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I believe (I can't find the spec now, maybe it was in a Riv email)
>>> the seatpost on these is 29.8. There's no Funky Monkey big enough.
>>>
>>> On Monday, July 18, 2022 at 1:16:13 PM UTC-7 Lucky wrote:
>>>
 Ok I finally have to ask if there’s a reason one could not use
 something like a Paul Funky Monkey rear cable hanger for seatpost? Or a
 similar cheaper device? I understand that it fixes the seat pretty 
 well in
 place but otherwise?

 On Jul 18, 2022, at 12:37, Wesley  wrote:

 If I were looking to mount cantilevers on a Rosco Platy, I'd use a
 small loop of Spectra or Dyneema (high tech rope that's stronger than 
 steel
 and doesn't stretch). Loop it through a cable anger and around the seat
 post stub like this, and you'd have a totally functional & totally 
 unique
 brake setup:

 [image: seatpost-line.png]
 -W
 On Monday, July 18, 2022 at 11:13:51 AM UTC-7 allan@gmail.com
 wrote:

> I called and asked about that forward-facing seat clamp because I
> have a NOS set of Dia Compe NGC 982 cantis that I have been saving 
> aside
> for a mermaid Platypus build for my wife. We both got tired of 
> waiting for
> the next Platy shipment and, per a conversation with Grant, the Rosco 
> Platy
> has nearly identical geometry so we getting a green 50 cm frame 
> instead.
>
> Anyway, Will told me that the seat clamp lug was designed for the
> tandem frames and that they had been worried about too much heat 
> weakening
> the seat tube in that area during fabrication. Turns out that the seat
> stays ended up being welded lower down and further away from the lug 
> so
> they decided to use up those clamp lugs somewhere else.

Re: [RBW] Re: Rosco Platy!

[Leah Peterson]

Hope Cyclery posted a Rosco box in their IG Stories. Maybe they’ll show us the bike built up?Sent from my iPhoneOn Sep 12, 2022, at 10:17 AM, Doug H.  wrote:It would be nice to hear a ride report from someone who has ridden both the lugged Platy and the new Rosco Platy. And, I can't wait to see some build photos too!DougOn Sunday, September 11, 2022 at 2:06:32 PM UTC-4 Eric Daume wrote:I got my shipping invoice, so maybe it's coming? I have the parts all set out for it, though I'm still dithering on the handlebar.EricOn Sun, Sep 11, 2022 at 12:52 PM Leah Peterson  wrote:Has anyone gotten and built up a Rosco Platy yet? I’m so excited to see one. Riv said in this week’s newsletter that they have begun shipping. Or maybe folks are picking them up from HQ. Hope so!LOn Sep 1, 2022, at 7:25 PM, Joe Bernard  wrote:Bo on the waiting. I got my custom quicker than this! On Thursday, September 1, 2022 at 1:47:59 PM UTC-7 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! wrote:Eric, yes, so frustrating. The 2022 Platys were actually supposed to be here in May, then August, now October. And the Rosco Plats being delayed even though they are in the shop is so sad. If I had one on order and lived within a 12 hour drive of Walnut Creek, I’d spend Labor Day driving to get my bike. It’s extra sad for those who live in certain parts of the country - winter is coming. LeahOn Sep 1, 2022, at 4:30 PM, Johnny Alien  wrote:They original target for these was May I think. I knew with the supply chain issues there would be problems and thats why I ultimately decided to go with a Clem L. A decision I have been very happy with. Not because the bikes got majorly delayed but because I love my Clem.On Thursday, September 1, 2022 at 3:59:40 PM UTC-4 Eric Daume wrote:From this week's email:Even though the (Roadini) frames are here, we just finished sending out the last of the Atlantis framesets and still have Atlantis builds in the queue. After that we have all the Rosco Platypus frames to either build up or send out, so please be OK with a long lead time, about a month and a half, and maybe slightly less for framesets.So the RP's won't go until the Atlantis bikes get built? Even the frames that are just getting passed on? This is super frustrating.EricOn Tue, Aug 2, 2022 at 8:32 PM Eric Daume  wrote: I did confirm with Riv that the post is a 29.8mm.Compared to the usual 26.8mm on other Rivs, this does raise the option of adding a dropper post :)On Mon, Jul 18, 2022 at 4:25 PM Joe Bernard  wrote:I believe (I can't find the spec now, maybe it was in a Riv email) the seatpost on these is 29.8. There's no Funky Monkey big enough. On Monday, July 18, 2022 at 1:16:13 PM UTC-7 Lucky wrote:Ok I finally have to ask if there’s a reason one could not use something like a Paul Funky Monkey rear cable hanger for seatpost? Or a similar cheaper device? I understand that it fixes the seat pretty well in place but otherwise?On Jul 18, 2022, at 12:37, Wesley  wrote:If I were looking to mount cantilevers on a Rosco Platy, I'd use a small loop of Spectra or Dyneema (high tech rope that's stronger than steel and doesn't stretch). Loop it through a cable anger and around the seat post stub like this, and you'd have a totally functional & totally unique brake setup: -WOn Monday, July 18, 2022 at 11:13:51 AM UTC-7 allan@gmail.com wrote:I called and asked about that forward-facing seat clamp because I have a NOS set of Dia Compe NGC 982 cantis that I have been saving aside for a mermaid Platypus build for my wife. We both got tired of waiting for the next Platy shipment and, per a conversation with Grant, the Rosco Platy has nearly identical geometry so we getting a green 50 cm frame instead. Anyway, Will told me that the seat clamp lug was designed for the tandem frames and that they had been worried about too much heat weakening the seat tube in that area during fabrication. Turns out that the seat stays ended up being welded lower down and further away from the lug so they decided to use up those clamp lugs somewhere else.My plan is to put a collar around the seatpost (29.8mm) and anchor a Nitto long cable hanger from there. It’ll be a minor inconvenience to adjust the collar whenever the seat height needs changing but it’s not a frequent or big deal to me.The collar: Looking forward to getting this frame!Allan in Marlboro, Vermont On Friday, July 15, 2022 at 7:30:49 PM UTC-4 Garth wrote:The ETT measurement is done so horizontally, as in perfectly level. That's why it's called theoretical as it is referring to bikes with sloping and/or missing top tubes(like a mixte). If you had a carpenters level you could get it "fairly" accurate for conversational purposes, but just eyeballing it not really. I was seriously considering getting a purple one but then I noticed the reverso seat clamp. No cantilever c

Re: [RBW] Re: Rosco Platy!

[Doug H.]

It would be nice to hear a ride report from someone who has ridden both the 
lugged Platy and the new Rosco Platy. And, I can't wait to see some build 
photos too!
Doug

On Sunday, September 11, 2022 at 2:06:32 PM UTC-4 Eric Daume wrote:

> I got my shipping invoice, so maybe it's coming? I have the parts all set 
> out for it, though I'm still dithering on the handlebar.
>
> Eric
>
> On Sun, Sep 11, 2022 at 12:52 PM Leah Peterson  
> wrote:
>
>> Has anyone gotten and built up a Rosco Platy yet? I’m so excited to see 
>> one. Riv said in this week’s newsletter that they have begun shipping. Or 
>> maybe folks are picking them up from HQ. Hope so!
>> L
>>
>> On Sep 1, 2022, at 7:25 PM, Joe Bernard  wrote:
>>
>> Bo on the waiting. I got my custom quicker than this! 
>>
>> On Thursday, September 1, 2022 at 1:47:59 PM UTC-7 Bicycle Belle Ding 
>> Ding! wrote:
>>
>>> Eric, yes, so frustrating. The 2022 Platys were actually supposed to be 
>>> here in May, then August, now October. And the Rosco Plats being delayed 
>>> even though they are in the shop is so sad. If I had one on order and lived 
>>> within a 12 hour drive of Walnut Creek, I’d spend Labor Day driving to get 
>>> my bike. 
>>>
>>> It’s extra sad for those who live in certain parts of the country - 
>>> winter is coming. 
>>>
>>> Leah
>>>
>>> On Sep 1, 2022, at 4:30 PM, Johnny Alien  wrote:
>>>
>>> They original target for these was May I think. I knew with the supply 
>>> chain issues there would be problems and thats why I ultimately decided to 
>>> go with a Clem L. A decision I have been very happy with. Not because the 
>>> bikes got majorly delayed but because I love my Clem.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thursday, September 1, 2022 at 3:59:40 PM UTC-4 Eric Daume wrote:
>>>
 From this week's email:

 Even though the (Roadini) frames are here, we just finished sending out 
 the last of the Atlantis framesets and still have Atlantis builds in the 
 queue. After that we have all the Rosco Platypus frames to either build up 
 or send out, so please be OK with a long lead time, about *a month and 
 a half,* and maybe slightly less for framesets.

 So the RP's won't go until the Atlantis bikes get built? Even the 
 frames that are just getting passed on? This is super frustrating.

 Eric

 On Tue, Aug 2, 2022 at 8:32 PM Eric Daume  wrote:

>  I did confirm with Riv that the post is a 29.8mm.
>
> Compared to the usual 26.8mm on other Rivs, this does raise the option 
> of adding a dropper post :)
>
> On Mon, Jul 18, 2022 at 4:25 PM Joe Bernard  wrote:
>
>> I believe (I can't find the spec now, maybe it was in a Riv email) 
>> the seatpost on these is 29.8. There's no Funky Monkey big enough. 
>>
>> On Monday, July 18, 2022 at 1:16:13 PM UTC-7 Lucky wrote:
>>
>>> Ok I finally have to ask if there’s a reason one could not use 
>>> something like a Paul Funky Monkey rear cable hanger for seatpost? Or a 
>>> similar cheaper device? I understand that it fixes the seat pretty well 
>>> in 
>>> place but otherwise?
>>>
>>> On Jul 18, 2022, at 12:37, Wesley  wrote:
>>>
>>> If I were looking to mount cantilevers on a Rosco Platy, I'd use a 
>>> small loop of Spectra or Dyneema (high tech rope that's stronger than 
>>> steel 
>>> and doesn't stretch). Loop it through a cable anger and around the seat 
>>> post stub like this, and you'd have a totally functional & totally 
>>> unique 
>>> brake setup: 
>>>
>>> [image: seatpost-line.png]
>>> -W
>>> On Monday, July 18, 2022 at 11:13:51 AM UTC-7 allan@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 I called and asked about that forward-facing seat clamp because I 
 have a NOS set of Dia Compe NGC 982 cantis that I have been saving 
 aside 
 for a mermaid Platypus build for my wife. We both got tired of waiting 
 for 
 the next Platy shipment and, per a conversation with Grant, the Rosco 
 Platy 
 has nearly identical geometry so we getting a green 50 cm frame 
 instead. 

 Anyway, Will told me that the seat clamp lug was designed for the 
 tandem frames and that they had been worried about too much heat 
 weakening 
 the seat tube in that area during fabrication. Turns out that the seat 
 stays ended up being welded lower down and further away from the lug 
 so 
 they decided to use up those clamp lugs somewhere else.

 My plan is to put a collar around the seatpost (29.8mm) and anchor 
 a Nitto long cable hanger from there. It’ll be a minor inconvenience 
 to 
 adjust the collar whenever the seat height needs changing but it’s not 
 a 
 frequent or big deal to me.

 The collar: 

Re: [RBW] Re: Rosco Platy!

[Eric Daume]

I got my shipping invoice, so maybe it's coming? I have the parts all set
out for it, though I'm still dithering on the handlebar.

Eric

On Sun, Sep 11, 2022 at 12:52 PM Leah Peterson 
wrote:

> Has anyone gotten and built up a Rosco Platy yet? I’m so excited to see
> one. Riv said in this week’s newsletter that they have begun shipping. Or
> maybe folks are picking them up from HQ. Hope so!
> L
>
> On Sep 1, 2022, at 7:25 PM, Joe Bernard  wrote:
>
> Bo on the waiting. I got my custom quicker than this!
>
> On Thursday, September 1, 2022 at 1:47:59 PM UTC-7 Bicycle Belle Ding
> Ding! wrote:
>
>> Eric, yes, so frustrating. The 2022 Platys were actually supposed to be
>> here in May, then August, now October. And the Rosco Plats being delayed
>> even though they are in the shop is so sad. If I had one on order and lived
>> within a 12 hour drive of Walnut Creek, I’d spend Labor Day driving to get
>> my bike.
>>
>> It’s extra sad for those who live in certain parts of the country -
>> winter is coming.
>>
>> Leah
>>
>> On Sep 1, 2022, at 4:30 PM, Johnny Alien  wrote:
>>
>> They original target for these was May I think. I knew with the supply
>> chain issues there would be problems and thats why I ultimately decided to
>> go with a Clem L. A decision I have been very happy with. Not because the
>> bikes got majorly delayed but because I love my Clem.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thursday, September 1, 2022 at 3:59:40 PM UTC-4 Eric Daume wrote:
>>
>>> From this week's email:
>>>
>>> Even though the (Roadini) frames are here, we just finished sending out
>>> the last of the Atlantis framesets and still have Atlantis builds in the
>>> queue. After that we have all the Rosco Platypus frames to either build up
>>> or send out, so please be OK with a long lead time, about *a month and
>>> a half,* and maybe slightly less for framesets.
>>>
>>> So the RP's won't go until the Atlantis bikes get built? Even the frames
>>> that are just getting passed on? This is super frustrating.
>>>
>>> Eric
>>>
>>> On Tue, Aug 2, 2022 at 8:32 PM Eric Daume  wrote:
>>>
  I did confirm with Riv that the post is a 29.8mm.

 Compared to the usual 26.8mm on other Rivs, this does raise the option
 of adding a dropper post :)

 On Mon, Jul 18, 2022 at 4:25 PM Joe Bernard  wrote:

> I believe (I can't find the spec now, maybe it was in a Riv email) the
> seatpost on these is 29.8. There's no Funky Monkey big enough.
>
> On Monday, July 18, 2022 at 1:16:13 PM UTC-7 Lucky wrote:
>
>> Ok I finally have to ask if there’s a reason one could not use
>> something like a Paul Funky Monkey rear cable hanger for seatpost? Or a
>> similar cheaper device? I understand that it fixes the seat pretty well 
>> in
>> place but otherwise?
>>
>> On Jul 18, 2022, at 12:37, Wesley  wrote:
>>
>> If I were looking to mount cantilevers on a Rosco Platy, I'd use a
>> small loop of Spectra or Dyneema (high tech rope that's stronger than 
>> steel
>> and doesn't stretch). Loop it through a cable anger and around the seat
>> post stub like this, and you'd have a totally functional & totally unique
>> brake setup:
>>
>> [image: seatpost-line.png]
>> -W
>> On Monday, July 18, 2022 at 11:13:51 AM UTC-7 allan@gmail.com
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I called and asked about that forward-facing seat clamp because I
>>> have a NOS set of Dia Compe NGC 982 cantis that I have been saving aside
>>> for a mermaid Platypus build for my wife. We both got tired of waiting 
>>> for
>>> the next Platy shipment and, per a conversation with Grant, the Rosco 
>>> Platy
>>> has nearly identical geometry so we getting a green 50 cm frame instead.
>>>
>>> Anyway, Will told me that the seat clamp lug was designed for the
>>> tandem frames and that they had been worried about too much heat 
>>> weakening
>>> the seat tube in that area during fabrication. Turns out that the seat
>>> stays ended up being welded lower down and further away from the lug so
>>> they decided to use up those clamp lugs somewhere else.
>>>
>>> My plan is to put a collar around the seatpost (29.8mm) and anchor a
>>> Nitto long cable hanger from there. It’ll be a minor inconvenience to
>>> adjust the collar whenever the seat height needs changing but it’s not a
>>> frequent or big deal to me.
>>>
>>> The collar: 
>>>
>>> Looking forward to getting this frame!
>>>
>>> Allan in Marlboro, Vermont
>>>
>>> On Friday, July 15, 2022 at 7:30:49 PM UTC-4 Garth wrote:
>>>
 The ETT measurement is done so horizontally, as in perfectly level.
 That's why it's called theoretical as it is referring to bikes with 
 sloping
 and/or missing top tubes(like a mixte). If you had a carpenters level 
 you
 could get it

Re: [RBW] Re: Rosco Platy!

[Leah Peterson]

Has anyone gotten and built up a Rosco Platy yet? I’m so excited to see one. 
Riv said in this week’s newsletter that they have begun shipping. Or maybe 
folks are picking them up from HQ. Hope so!
L

> On Sep 1, 2022, at 7:25 PM, Joe Bernard  wrote:
> 
> Bo on the waiting. I got my custom quicker than this! 
> 
>> On Thursday, September 1, 2022 at 1:47:59 PM UTC-7 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
>> wrote:
>> Eric, yes, so frustrating. The 2022 Platys were actually supposed to be here 
>> in May, then August, now October. And the Rosco Plats being delayed even 
>> though they are in the shop is so sad. If I had one on order and lived 
>> within a 12 hour drive of Walnut Creek, I’d spend Labor Day driving to get 
>> my bike. 
>> 
>> It’s extra sad for those who live in certain parts of the country - winter 
>> is coming. 
>> 
>> Leah
>> 
 On Sep 1, 2022, at 4:30 PM, Johnny Alien  wrote:
 
>>> They original target for these was May I think. I knew with the supply 
>>> chain issues there would be problems and thats why I ultimately decided to 
>>> go with a Clem L. A decision I have been very happy with. Not because the 
>>> bikes got majorly delayed but because I love my Clem.
>> 
>>> 
>>> 
 On Thursday, September 1, 2022 at 3:59:40 PM UTC-4 Eric Daume wrote:
 From this week's email:
 
 Even though the (Roadini) frames are here, we just finished sending out 
 the last of the Atlantis framesets and still have Atlantis builds in the 
 queue. After that we have all the Rosco Platypus frames to either build up 
 or send out, so please be OK with a long lead time, about a month and a 
 half, and maybe slightly less for framesets.
 
 So the RP's won't go until the Atlantis bikes get built? Even the frames 
 that are just getting passed on? This is super frustrating.
 
 Eric
 
> On Tue, Aug 2, 2022 at 8:32 PM Eric Daume  wrote:
>  I did confirm with Riv that the post is a 29.8mm.
> 
> Compared to the usual 26.8mm on other Rivs, this does raise the option of 
> adding a dropper post :)
> 
>> On Mon, Jul 18, 2022 at 4:25 PM Joe Bernard  wrote:
>> I believe (I can't find the spec now, maybe it was in a Riv email) the 
>> seatpost on these is 29.8. There's no Funky Monkey big enough. 
>> 
>>> On Monday, July 18, 2022 at 1:16:13 PM UTC-7 Lucky wrote:
>>> Ok I finally have to ask if there’s a reason one could not use 
>>> something like a Paul Funky Monkey rear cable hanger for seatpost? Or a 
>>> similar cheaper device? I understand that it fixes the seat pretty well 
>>> in place but otherwise?
>>> 
> On Jul 18, 2022, at 12:37, Wesley  wrote:
> 
 If I were looking to mount cantilevers on a Rosco Platy, I'd use a 
 small loop of Spectra or Dyneema (high tech rope that's stronger than 
 steel and doesn't stretch). Loop it through a cable anger and around 
 the seat post stub like this, and you'd have a totally functional & 
 totally unique brake setup: 
>>> 
 
 -W
> On Monday, July 18, 2022 at 11:13:51 AM UTC-7 allan@gmail.com 
> wrote:
> I called and asked about that forward-facing seat clamp because I 
> have a NOS set of Dia Compe NGC 982 cantis that I have been saving 
> aside for a mermaid Platypus build for my wife. We both got tired of 
> waiting for the next Platy shipment and, per a conversation with 
> Grant, the Rosco Platy has nearly identical geometry so we getting a 
> green 50 cm frame instead. 
> 
> Anyway, Will told me that the seat clamp lug was designed for the 
> tandem frames and that they had been worried about too much heat 
> weakening the seat tube in that area during fabrication. Turns out 
> that the seat stays ended up being welded lower down and further away 
> from the lug so they decided to use up those clamp lugs somewhere 
> else.
> 
> My plan is to put a collar around the seatpost (29.8mm) and anchor a 
> Nitto long cable hanger from there. It’ll be a minor inconvenience to 
> adjust the collar whenever the seat height needs changing but it’s 
> not a frequent or big deal to me.
> 
> The collar: 
> 
> Looking forward to getting this frame!
> 
> Allan in Marlboro, Vermont 
> 
>> On Friday, July 15, 2022 at 7:30:49 PM UTC-4 Garth wrote:
>> The ETT measurement is done so horizontally, as in perfectly level. 
>> That's why it's called theoretical as it is referring to bikes with 
>> sloping and/or missing top tubes(like a mixte). If you had a 
>> carpenters level you could get it "fairly" accurate for 
>> conversational purposes, but just eyeballing it not really. 
>

Re: [RBW] Re: Rosco Platy!

[Joe Bernard]

Bo on the waiting. I got my custom quicker than this! 

On Thursday, September 1, 2022 at 1:47:59 PM UTC-7 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
wrote:

> Eric, yes, so frustrating. The 2022 Platys were actually supposed to be 
> here in May, then August, now October. And the Rosco Plats being delayed 
> even though they are in the shop is so sad. If I had one on order and lived 
> within a 12 hour drive of Walnut Creek, I’d spend Labor Day driving to get 
> my bike. 
>
> It’s extra sad for those who live in certain parts of the country - winter 
> is coming. 
>
> Leah
>
> On Sep 1, 2022, at 4:30 PM, Johnny Alien  wrote:
>
> They original target for these was May I think. I knew with the supply 
> chain issues there would be problems and thats why I ultimately decided to 
> go with a Clem L. A decision I have been very happy with. Not because the 
> bikes got majorly delayed but because I love my Clem.
>
>
>
> On Thursday, September 1, 2022 at 3:59:40 PM UTC-4 Eric Daume wrote:
>
>> From this week's email:
>>
>> Even though the (Roadini) frames are here, we just finished sending out 
>> the last of the Atlantis framesets and still have Atlantis builds in the 
>> queue. After that we have all the Rosco Platypus frames to either build up 
>> or send out, so please be OK with a long lead time, about *a month and a 
>> half,* and maybe slightly less for framesets.
>>
>> So the RP's won't go until the Atlantis bikes get built? Even the frames 
>> that are just getting passed on? This is super frustrating.
>>
>> Eric
>>
>> On Tue, Aug 2, 2022 at 8:32 PM Eric Daume  wrote:
>>
>>>  I did confirm with Riv that the post is a 29.8mm.
>>>
>>> Compared to the usual 26.8mm on other Rivs, this does raise the option 
>>> of adding a dropper post :)
>>>
>>> On Mon, Jul 18, 2022 at 4:25 PM Joe Bernard  wrote:
>>>
 I believe (I can't find the spec now, maybe it was in a Riv email) the 
 seatpost on these is 29.8. There's no Funky Monkey big enough. 

 On Monday, July 18, 2022 at 1:16:13 PM UTC-7 Lucky wrote:

> Ok I finally have to ask if there’s a reason one could not use 
> something like a Paul Funky Monkey rear cable hanger for seatpost? Or a 
> similar cheaper device? I understand that it fixes the seat pretty well 
> in 
> place but otherwise?
>
> On Jul 18, 2022, at 12:37, Wesley  wrote:
>
> If I were looking to mount cantilevers on a Rosco Platy, I'd use a 
> small loop of Spectra or Dyneema (high tech rope that's stronger than 
> steel 
> and doesn't stretch). Loop it through a cable anger and around the seat 
> post stub like this, and you'd have a totally functional & totally unique 
> brake setup: 
>
> [image: seatpost-line.png]
> -W
> On Monday, July 18, 2022 at 11:13:51 AM UTC-7 allan@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> I called and asked about that forward-facing seat clamp because I 
>> have a NOS set of Dia Compe NGC 982 cantis that I have been saving aside 
>> for a mermaid Platypus build for my wife. We both got tired of waiting 
>> for 
>> the next Platy shipment and, per a conversation with Grant, the Rosco 
>> Platy 
>> has nearly identical geometry so we getting a green 50 cm frame instead. 
>>
>> Anyway, Will told me that the seat clamp lug was designed for the 
>> tandem frames and that they had been worried about too much heat 
>> weakening 
>> the seat tube in that area during fabrication. Turns out that the seat 
>> stays ended up being welded lower down and further away from the lug so 
>> they decided to use up those clamp lugs somewhere else.
>>
>> My plan is to put a collar around the seatpost (29.8mm) and anchor a 
>> Nitto long cable hanger from there. It’ll be a minor inconvenience to 
>> adjust the collar whenever the seat height needs changing but it’s not a 
>> frequent or big deal to me.
>>
>> The collar: 
>>
>> Looking forward to getting this frame!
>>
>> Allan in Marlboro, Vermont 
>>
>> On Friday, July 15, 2022 at 7:30:49 PM UTC-4 Garth wrote:
>>
>>> The ETT measurement is done so horizontally, as in perfectly level. 
>>> That's why it's called theoretical as it is referring to bikes with 
>>> sloping 
>>> and/or missing top tubes(like a mixte). If you had a carpenters level 
>>> you 
>>> could get it "fairly" accurate for conversational purposes, but just 
>>> eyeballing it not really. 
>>>
>>>
>>> I was seriously considering getting a purple one but then I noticed 
>>> the reverso seat clamp. No cantilever cable hanger = no deal. V-brakes 
>>> are 
>>> "great"  (me making funny faces)  as long as they're not on any 
>>> bike I ride ;-). 
>>> On Friday, July 15, 2022 at 7:08:24 PM UTC-4 Joe Bernard wrote:
>>>
 Straight across from center of seatpost to cen

Re: [RBW] Re: Rosco Platy!

[Brian Turner]

I’ve been waiting 3 months on a set of 36 hole, polished 650b Cliffhangers. And 
that’s direct from Velocity to my LBS. Its a frustrating time to want stuff, 
for sure.

> On Sep 1, 2022, at 4:48 PM, Leah Peterson  wrote:
> 
> 
> Eric, yes, so frustrating. The 2022 Platys were actually supposed to be here 
> in May, then August, now October. And the Rosco Plats being delayed even 
> though they are in the shop is so sad. If I had one on order and lived within 
> a 12 hour drive of Walnut Creek, I’d spend Labor Day driving to get my bike. 
> 
> It’s extra sad for those who live in certain parts of the country - winter is 
> coming. 
> 
> Leah
> 
>>> On Sep 1, 2022, at 4:30 PM, Johnny Alien  wrote:
>>> 
>> They original target for these was May I think. I knew with the supply 
>> chain issues there would be problems and thats why I ultimately decided to 
>> go with a Clem L. A decision I have been very happy with. Not because the 
>> bikes got majorly delayed but because I love my Clem.
>> 
>>> On Thursday, September 1, 2022 at 3:59:40 PM UTC-4 Eric Daume wrote:
>>> From this week's email:
>>> 
>>> Even though the (Roadini) frames are here, we just finished sending out the 
>>> last of the Atlantis framesets and still have Atlantis builds in the queue. 
>>> After that we have all the Rosco Platypus frames to either build up or send 
>>> out, so please be OK with a long lead time, about a month and a half, and 
>>> maybe slightly less for framesets.
>>> 
>>> So the RP's won't go until the Atlantis bikes get built? Even the frames 
>>> that are just getting passed on? This is super frustrating.
>>> 
>>> Eric
>>> 
 On Tue, Aug 2, 2022 at 8:32 PM Eric Daume  wrote:
  I did confirm with Riv that the post is a 29.8mm.
 
 Compared to the usual 26.8mm on other Rivs, this does raise the option of 
 adding a dropper post :)
 
> On Mon, Jul 18, 2022 at 4:25 PM Joe Bernard  wrote:
> I believe (I can't find the spec now, maybe it was in a Riv email) the 
> seatpost on these is 29.8. There's no Funky Monkey big enough. 
> 
>> On Monday, July 18, 2022 at 1:16:13 PM UTC-7 Lucky wrote:
>> Ok I finally have to ask if there’s a reason one could not use something 
>> like a Paul Funky Monkey rear cable hanger for seatpost? Or a similar 
>> cheaper device? I understand that it fixes the seat pretty well in place 
>> but otherwise?
>> 
 On Jul 18, 2022, at 12:37, Wesley  wrote:
 
>>> If I were looking to mount cantilevers on a Rosco Platy, I'd use a 
>>> small loop of Spectra or Dyneema (high tech rope that's stronger than 
>>> steel and doesn't stretch). Loop it through a cable anger and around 
>>> the seat post stub like this, and you'd have a totally functional & 
>>> totally unique brake setup: 
>> 
>>> 
>>> -W
 On Monday, July 18, 2022 at 11:13:51 AM UTC-7 allan@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 I called and asked about that forward-facing seat clamp because I have 
 a NOS set of Dia Compe NGC 982 cantis that I have been saving aside 
 for a mermaid Platypus build for my wife. We both got tired of waiting 
 for the next Platy shipment and, per a conversation with Grant, the 
 Rosco Platy has nearly identical geometry so we getting a green 50 cm 
 frame instead. 
 
 Anyway, Will told me that the seat clamp lug was designed for the 
 tandem frames and that they had been worried about too much heat 
 weakening the seat tube in that area during fabrication. Turns out 
 that the seat stays ended up being welded lower down and further away 
 from the lug so they decided to use up those clamp lugs somewhere else.
 
 My plan is to put a collar around the seatpost (29.8mm) and anchor a 
 Nitto long cable hanger from there. It’ll be a minor inconvenience to 
 adjust the collar whenever the seat height needs changing but it’s not 
 a frequent or big deal to me.
 
 The collar: 
 
 Looking forward to getting this frame!
 
 Allan in Marlboro, Vermont 
 
> On Friday, July 15, 2022 at 7:30:49 PM UTC-4 Garth wrote:
> The ETT measurement is done so horizontally, as in perfectly level. 
> That's why it's called theoretical as it is referring to bikes with 
> sloping and/or missing top tubes(like a mixte). If you had a 
> carpenters level you could get it "fairly" accurate for 
> conversational purposes, but just eyeballing it not really. 
> 
> 
> I was seriously considering getting a purple one but then I noticed 
> the reverso seat clamp. No cantilever cable hanger = no deal. 
> V-brakes are "great"  (me making funny faces)  as long as 
> they're not on any bike I ride ;-). 

Re: [RBW] Re: Rosco Platy!

[Leah Peterson]

Eric, yes, so frustrating. The 2022 Platys were actually supposed to be here in 
May, then August, now October. And the Rosco Plats being delayed even though 
they are in the shop is so sad. If I had one on order and lived within a 12 
hour drive of Walnut Creek, I’d spend Labor Day driving to get my bike. 

It’s extra sad for those who live in certain parts of the country - winter is 
coming. 

Leah

> On Sep 1, 2022, at 4:30 PM, Johnny Alien  wrote:
> 
> They original target for these was May I think. I knew with the supply chain 
> issues there would be problems and thats why I ultimately decided to go with 
> a Clem L. A decision I have been very happy with. Not because the bikes got 
> majorly delayed but because I love my Clem.
> 
>> On Thursday, September 1, 2022 at 3:59:40 PM UTC-4 Eric Daume wrote:
>> From this week's email:
>> 
>> Even though the (Roadini) frames are here, we just finished sending out the 
>> last of the Atlantis framesets and still have Atlantis builds in the queue. 
>> After that we have all the Rosco Platypus frames to either build up or send 
>> out, so please be OK with a long lead time, about a month and a half, and 
>> maybe slightly less for framesets.
>> 
>> So the RP's won't go until the Atlantis bikes get built? Even the frames 
>> that are just getting passed on? This is super frustrating.
>> 
>> Eric
>> 
>>> On Tue, Aug 2, 2022 at 8:32 PM Eric Daume  wrote:
>>>  I did confirm with Riv that the post is a 29.8mm.
>>> 
>>> Compared to the usual 26.8mm on other Rivs, this does raise the option of 
>>> adding a dropper post :)
>>> 
 On Mon, Jul 18, 2022 at 4:25 PM Joe Bernard  wrote:
 I believe (I can't find the spec now, maybe it was in a Riv email) the 
 seatpost on these is 29.8. There's no Funky Monkey big enough. 
 
> On Monday, July 18, 2022 at 1:16:13 PM UTC-7 Lucky wrote:
> Ok I finally have to ask if there’s a reason one could not use something 
> like a Paul Funky Monkey rear cable hanger for seatpost? Or a similar 
> cheaper device? I understand that it fixes the seat pretty well in place 
> but otherwise?
> 
>>> On Jul 18, 2022, at 12:37, Wesley  wrote:
>>> 
>> If I were looking to mount cantilevers on a Rosco Platy, I'd use a 
>> small loop of Spectra or Dyneema (high tech rope that's stronger than 
>> steel and doesn't stretch). Loop it through a cable anger and around the 
>> seat post stub like this, and you'd have a totally functional & totally 
>> unique brake setup: 
> 
>> 
>> -W
>>> On Monday, July 18, 2022 at 11:13:51 AM UTC-7 allan@gmail.com wrote:
>>> I called and asked about that forward-facing seat clamp because I have 
>>> a NOS set of Dia Compe NGC 982 cantis that I have been saving aside for 
>>> a mermaid Platypus build for my wife. We both got tired of waiting for 
>>> the next Platy shipment and, per a conversation with Grant, the Rosco 
>>> Platy has nearly identical geometry so we getting a green 50 cm frame 
>>> instead. 
>>> 
>>> Anyway, Will told me that the seat clamp lug was designed for the 
>>> tandem frames and that they had been worried about too much heat 
>>> weakening the seat tube in that area during fabrication. Turns out that 
>>> the seat stays ended up being welded lower down and further away from 
>>> the lug so they decided to use up those clamp lugs somewhere else.
>>> 
>>> My plan is to put a collar around the seatpost (29.8mm) and anchor a 
>>> Nitto long cable hanger from there. It’ll be a minor inconvenience to 
>>> adjust the collar whenever the seat height needs changing but it’s not 
>>> a frequent or big deal to me.
>>> 
>>> The collar: 
>>> 
>>> Looking forward to getting this frame!
>>> 
>>> Allan in Marlboro, Vermont 
>>> 
 On Friday, July 15, 2022 at 7:30:49 PM UTC-4 Garth wrote:
 The ETT measurement is done so horizontally, as in perfectly level. 
 That's why it's called theoretical as it is referring to bikes with 
 sloping and/or missing top tubes(like a mixte). If you had a 
 carpenters level you could get it "fairly" accurate for conversational 
 purposes, but just eyeballing it not really. 
 
 
 I was seriously considering getting a purple one but then I noticed 
 the reverso seat clamp. No cantilever cable hanger = no deal. V-brakes 
 are "great"  (me making funny faces)  as long as they're not 
 on any bike I ride ;-). 
> On Friday, July 15, 2022 at 7:08:24 PM UTC-4 Joe Bernard wrote:
> Straight across from center of seatpost to center of headtube 👍
> 
>> On Friday, July 15, 2022 at 3:12:05 PM UTC-7 Bicycle Belle Ding 
>> Ding! wrote:
>> Shoot, Joe, I don’t remember either! I suppose I could measure if 
>> y

Re: [RBW] Re: Rosco Platy!

[Johnny Alien]

They original target for these was May I think. I knew with the supply 
chain issues there would be problems and thats why I ultimately decided to 
go with a Clem L. A decision I have been very happy with. Not because the 
bikes got majorly delayed but because I love my Clem.

On Thursday, September 1, 2022 at 3:59:40 PM UTC-4 Eric Daume wrote:

> From this week's email:
>
> Even though the (Roadini) frames are here, we just finished sending out 
> the last of the Atlantis framesets and still have Atlantis builds in the 
> queue. After that we have all the Rosco Platypus frames to either build up 
> or send out, so please be OK with a long lead time, about *a month and a 
> half,* and maybe slightly less for framesets.
>
> So the RP's won't go until the Atlantis bikes get built? Even the frames 
> that are just getting passed on? This is super frustrating.
>
> Eric
>
> On Tue, Aug 2, 2022 at 8:32 PM Eric Daume  wrote:
>
>>  I did confirm with Riv that the post is a 29.8mm.
>>
>> Compared to the usual 26.8mm on other Rivs, this does raise the option of 
>> adding a dropper post :)
>>
>> On Mon, Jul 18, 2022 at 4:25 PM Joe Bernard  wrote:
>>
>>> I believe (I can't find the spec now, maybe it was in a Riv email) the 
>>> seatpost on these is 29.8. There's no Funky Monkey big enough. 
>>>
>>> On Monday, July 18, 2022 at 1:16:13 PM UTC-7 Lucky wrote:
>>>
 Ok I finally have to ask if there’s a reason one could not use 
 something like a Paul Funky Monkey rear cable hanger for seatpost? Or a 
 similar cheaper device? I understand that it fixes the seat pretty well in 
 place but otherwise?

 On Jul 18, 2022, at 12:37, Wesley  wrote:

 If I were looking to mount cantilevers on a Rosco Platy, I'd use a 
 small loop of Spectra or Dyneema (high tech rope that's stronger than 
 steel 
 and doesn't stretch). Loop it through a cable anger and around the seat 
 post stub like this, and you'd have a totally functional & totally unique 
 brake setup: 

 [image: seatpost-line.png]
 -W
 On Monday, July 18, 2022 at 11:13:51 AM UTC-7 allan@gmail.com 
 wrote:

> I called and asked about that forward-facing seat clamp because I have 
> a NOS set of Dia Compe NGC 982 cantis that I have been saving aside for a 
> mermaid Platypus build for my wife. We both got tired of waiting for the 
> next Platy shipment and, per a conversation with Grant, the Rosco Platy 
> has 
> nearly identical geometry so we getting a green 50 cm frame instead. 
>
> Anyway, Will told me that the seat clamp lug was designed for the 
> tandem frames and that they had been worried about too much heat 
> weakening 
> the seat tube in that area during fabrication. Turns out that the seat 
> stays ended up being welded lower down and further away from the lug so 
> they decided to use up those clamp lugs somewhere else.
>
> My plan is to put a collar around the seatpost (29.8mm) and anchor a 
> Nitto long cable hanger from there. It’ll be a minor inconvenience to 
> adjust the collar whenever the seat height needs changing but it’s not a 
> frequent or big deal to me.
>
> The collar: 
>
> Looking forward to getting this frame!
>
> Allan in Marlboro, Vermont 
>
> On Friday, July 15, 2022 at 7:30:49 PM UTC-4 Garth wrote:
>
>> The ETT measurement is done so horizontally, as in perfectly level. 
>> That's why it's called theoretical as it is referring to bikes with 
>> sloping 
>> and/or missing top tubes(like a mixte). If you had a carpenters level 
>> you 
>> could get it "fairly" accurate for conversational purposes, but just 
>> eyeballing it not really. 
>>
>>
>> I was seriously considering getting a purple one but then I noticed 
>> the reverso seat clamp. No cantilever cable hanger = no deal. V-brakes 
>> are 
>> "great"  (me making funny faces)  as long as they're not on any 
>> bike I ride ;-). 
>> On Friday, July 15, 2022 at 7:08:24 PM UTC-4 Joe Bernard wrote:
>>
>>> Straight across from center of seatpost to center of headtube 👍
>>>
>>> On Friday, July 15, 2022 at 3:12:05 PM UTC-7 Bicycle Belle Ding 
>>> Ding! wrote:
>>>
 Shoot, Joe, I don’t remember either! I suppose I could measure if 
 you tell me from where to where.

 Sent from my iPhone

 On Jul 15, 2022, at 5:08 PM, Joe Bernard  wrote:

 Dagnabbit, now I wish I could remember what Leah said the 
 effective toptube is on her 55. Hey Leah! 🙋‍♂️



 On Friday, July 15, 2022 at 12:29:56 PM UTC-7 Garth wrote:

>
>
> I finally got through, it seems there was some comical phone 
> technology things happening but we finally connected. 

Re: [RBW] Re: Rosco Platy!

[Eric Daume]

>From this week's email:

Even though the (Roadini) frames are here, we just finished sending out the
last of the Atlantis framesets and still have Atlantis builds in the queue.
After that we have all the Rosco Platypus frames to either build up or send
out, so please be OK with a long lead time, about *a month and a half,* and
maybe slightly less for framesets.

So the RP's won't go until the Atlantis bikes get built? Even the frames
that are just getting passed on? This is super frustrating.

Eric

On Tue, Aug 2, 2022 at 8:32 PM Eric Daume  wrote:

>  I did confirm with Riv that the post is a 29.8mm.
>
> Compared to the usual 26.8mm on other Rivs, this does raise the option of
> adding a dropper post :)
>
> On Mon, Jul 18, 2022 at 4:25 PM Joe Bernard  wrote:
>
>> I believe (I can't find the spec now, maybe it was in a Riv email) the
>> seatpost on these is 29.8. There's no Funky Monkey big enough.
>>
>> On Monday, July 18, 2022 at 1:16:13 PM UTC-7 Lucky wrote:
>>
>>> Ok I finally have to ask if there’s a reason one could not use something
>>> like a Paul Funky Monkey rear cable hanger for seatpost? Or a similar
>>> cheaper device? I understand that it fixes the seat pretty well in place
>>> but otherwise?
>>>
>>> On Jul 18, 2022, at 12:37, Wesley  wrote:
>>>
>>> If I were looking to mount cantilevers on a Rosco Platy, I'd use a
>>> small loop of Spectra or Dyneema (high tech rope that's stronger than steel
>>> and doesn't stretch). Loop it through a cable anger and around the seat
>>> post stub like this, and you'd have a totally functional & totally unique
>>> brake setup:
>>>
>>> [image: seatpost-line.png]
>>> -W
>>> On Monday, July 18, 2022 at 11:13:51 AM UTC-7 allan@gmail.com wrote:
>>>
 I called and asked about that forward-facing seat clamp because I have
 a NOS set of Dia Compe NGC 982 cantis that I have been saving aside for a
 mermaid Platypus build for my wife. We both got tired of waiting for the
 next Platy shipment and, per a conversation with Grant, the Rosco Platy has
 nearly identical geometry so we getting a green 50 cm frame instead.

 Anyway, Will told me that the seat clamp lug was designed for the
 tandem frames and that they had been worried about too much heat weakening
 the seat tube in that area during fabrication. Turns out that the seat
 stays ended up being welded lower down and further away from the lug so
 they decided to use up those clamp lugs somewhere else.

 My plan is to put a collar around the seatpost (29.8mm) and anchor a
 Nitto long cable hanger from there. It’ll be a minor inconvenience to
 adjust the collar whenever the seat height needs changing but it’s not a
 frequent or big deal to me.

 The collar: 

 Looking forward to getting this frame!

 Allan in Marlboro, Vermont

 On Friday, July 15, 2022 at 7:30:49 PM UTC-4 Garth wrote:

> The ETT measurement is done so horizontally, as in perfectly level.
> That's why it's called theoretical as it is referring to bikes with 
> sloping
> and/or missing top tubes(like a mixte). If you had a carpenters level you
> could get it "fairly" accurate for conversational purposes, but just
> eyeballing it not really.
>
>
> I was seriously considering getting a purple one but then I noticed
> the reverso seat clamp. No cantilever cable hanger = no deal. V-brakes are
> "great"  (me making funny faces)  as long as they're not on any
> bike I ride ;-).
> On Friday, July 15, 2022 at 7:08:24 PM UTC-4 Joe Bernard wrote:
>
>> Straight across from center of seatpost to center of headtube 👍
>>
>> On Friday, July 15, 2022 at 3:12:05 PM UTC-7 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding!
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Shoot, Joe, I don’t remember either! I suppose I could measure if
>>> you tell me from where to where.
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>> On Jul 15, 2022, at 5:08 PM, Joe Bernard  wrote:
>>>
>>> Dagnabbit, now I wish I could remember what Leah said the effective
>>> toptube is on her 55. Hey Leah! 🙋‍♂️
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Friday, July 15, 2022 at 12:29:56 PM UTC-7 Garth wrote:
>>>


 I finally got through, it seems there was some comical phone
 technology things happening but we finally connected. I hadn't given 
 the
 Rosco Platy any thought at all, zee-ro. I got the email and thought 
 I'd at
 least see what they look like. That's a great move to offer it in 
 purple as
 it is a fine alternative to the common production colors.

 If anyone else needs to know here's the 60 cm geo  Thanks Will
 !

 HTA 69.5d
 STA 72d
 Effective TT 652mm
 Stack 666mm
 Reach 430mm
 Chainstay 540mm
 Rake 67mm
>>>

Re: [RBW] Re: Rosco Platy!

[Eric Daume]

 I did confirm with Riv that the post is a 29.8mm.

Compared to the usual 26.8mm on other Rivs, this does raise the option of
adding a dropper post :)

On Mon, Jul 18, 2022 at 4:25 PM Joe Bernard  wrote:

> I believe (I can't find the spec now, maybe it was in a Riv email) the
> seatpost on these is 29.8. There's no Funky Monkey big enough.
>
> On Monday, July 18, 2022 at 1:16:13 PM UTC-7 Lucky wrote:
>
>> Ok I finally have to ask if there’s a reason one could not use something
>> like a Paul Funky Monkey rear cable hanger for seatpost? Or a similar
>> cheaper device? I understand that it fixes the seat pretty well in place
>> but otherwise?
>>
>> On Jul 18, 2022, at 12:37, Wesley  wrote:
>>
>> If I were looking to mount cantilevers on a Rosco Platy, I'd use a small
>> loop of Spectra or Dyneema (high tech rope that's stronger than steel and
>> doesn't stretch). Loop it through a cable anger and around the seat post
>> stub like this, and you'd have a totally functional & totally unique brake
>> setup:
>>
>> [image: seatpost-line.png]
>> -W
>> On Monday, July 18, 2022 at 11:13:51 AM UTC-7 allan@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> I called and asked about that forward-facing seat clamp because I have a
>>> NOS set of Dia Compe NGC 982 cantis that I have been saving aside for a
>>> mermaid Platypus build for my wife. We both got tired of waiting for the
>>> next Platy shipment and, per a conversation with Grant, the Rosco Platy has
>>> nearly identical geometry so we getting a green 50 cm frame instead.
>>>
>>> Anyway, Will told me that the seat clamp lug was designed for the tandem
>>> frames and that they had been worried about too much heat weakening the
>>> seat tube in that area during fabrication. Turns out that the seat stays
>>> ended up being welded lower down and further away from the lug so they
>>> decided to use up those clamp lugs somewhere else.
>>>
>>> My plan is to put a collar around the seatpost (29.8mm) and anchor a
>>> Nitto long cable hanger from there. It’ll be a minor inconvenience to
>>> adjust the collar whenever the seat height needs changing but it’s not a
>>> frequent or big deal to me.
>>>
>>> The collar: 
>>>
>>> Looking forward to getting this frame!
>>>
>>> Allan in Marlboro, Vermont
>>>
>>> On Friday, July 15, 2022 at 7:30:49 PM UTC-4 Garth wrote:
>>>
 The ETT measurement is done so horizontally, as in perfectly level.
 That's why it's called theoretical as it is referring to bikes with sloping
 and/or missing top tubes(like a mixte). If you had a carpenters level you
 could get it "fairly" accurate for conversational purposes, but just
 eyeballing it not really.


 I was seriously considering getting a purple one but then I noticed the
 reverso seat clamp. No cantilever cable hanger = no deal. V-brakes are
 "great"  (me making funny faces)  as long as they're not on any
 bike I ride ;-).
 On Friday, July 15, 2022 at 7:08:24 PM UTC-4 Joe Bernard wrote:

> Straight across from center of seatpost to center of headtube 👍
>
> On Friday, July 15, 2022 at 3:12:05 PM UTC-7 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding!
> wrote:
>
>> Shoot, Joe, I don’t remember either! I suppose I could measure if you
>> tell me from where to where.
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Jul 15, 2022, at 5:08 PM, Joe Bernard  wrote:
>>
>> Dagnabbit, now I wish I could remember what Leah said the effective
>> toptube is on her 55. Hey Leah! 🙋‍♂️
>>
>>
>>
>> On Friday, July 15, 2022 at 12:29:56 PM UTC-7 Garth wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I finally got through, it seems there was some comical phone
>>> technology things happening but we finally connected. I hadn't given the
>>> Rosco Platy any thought at all, zee-ro. I got the email and thought I'd 
>>> at
>>> least see what they look like. That's a great move to offer it in 
>>> purple as
>>> it is a fine alternative to the common production colors.
>>>
>>> If anyone else needs to know here's the 60 cm geo  Thanks Will !
>>>
>>> HTA 69.5d
>>> STA 72d
>>> Effective TT 652mm
>>> Stack 666mm
>>> Reach 430mm
>>> Chainstay 540mm
>>> Rake 67mm
>>> Front Center 726mm
>>> Drop 80mm
>>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Rosco Platy!

[lconley]

Dia-Compe, Weinmann, probably others.

Try “rear brake cable hanger” on eBay.

Laing

On Friday, July 29, 2022 at 9:27:22 AM UTC-4 j.phili...@gmail.com wrote:

> Laing,
>
> Who makes this? I’m striking out on googling it.
>
> JP
>
> On Tue, Jul 19, 2022 at 6:09 AM, lconley  wrote:
>
>> If the brake bridge is not compatible, then just attach one of these 
>> between the rack mounts, or to a seat post rack mount (available in many 
>> sizes) clamp. 
>>
>>
>> [image: brake.JPG]
>>
>>
>> [image: brake2.JPG]
>>
>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Rosco Platy!

[lconley]

If the brake bridge is not compatible, then just attach one of these 
between the rack mounts, or to a seat post rack mount (available in many 
sizes) clamp. 


[image: brake.JPG]


[image: brake2.JPG]

[image: clamp.JPG]

Laing





On Monday, July 18, 2022 at 6:09:41 PM UTC-4 Garth wrote:

>
>
> A funky monkey could only be used if you changed to a 27.2 seatpost with 
> the proper seat tube shim. The Roco has a 29.8 post. 
>
> If the seat lug teardrop thingy didn't go so far down you could attach a 
> 31.8mm front drop cable stop with either a curved or flexible noodle to 
> adjust for the angle, but it's there so that won't work either. 
>
> The Tektro fork mounted hangers look fine and all on a computer screen. 
> When the rubber meets the road however, it appears the rear brake bridge is 
> like the Susie, with the threaded hold facing down. Besides, even if you 
> could attach it, those hangers on the rear place the cable stop notably 
> offset (rearward) from where a frame mounted cable stop would be. I tried 
> it on the Susie. 
>
> All of that though .well why should one have to go through all those 
> hoops when the entire problem is one of omitting the cable stop bridge ? 
> ((Yes I know, I'm just howling to the moon and the Moon ain't replying, 
> teeheehee)) They cost about $1.95 from a frame supplier, retail. For a 
> builder, ummm  pennies. Labor involved, c'mon . do we really want 
> to go there ?  So it surely can't be about penny pinching, especially on a 
> $1350 frame. So why not include it ?(((again ... how-ooo-ling))) I could 
> make all sorts of not so nice assumptions but they'd be no more than that. 
> There is really no excuse for not having one.  Canti brakes are not going 
> away. There's plenty to choose from still, so no that's no excuse. 
>
> I'm okay with not getting one though as it wasn't exactly what I'd like in 
> frame anyways. I have a Susie and as of now I have no desire to even build 
> it, let alone ride. Through all this I realize I happen to really like 
> "regular" diamond shaped bikes that take stock length chains and can be 
> used with either drop bars or say a Albatross/stache bar, not one of those 
> monster swept back bars. While I'll never rid myself of the Bombadil I 
> don't think I'll ever buy another Riv. That's not knock, just my preference 
> from what feels natural to me, that's like my custom Franklin 
> road/sport/touring kinda frame. 
> On Monday, July 18, 2022 at 4:28:42 PM UTC-4 lconley wrote:
>
>> Ran into the same thing on the Rosco Baby:
>>
>> [image: b (2).jpg]
>>
>> Laing
>>
>>
>> On Monday, July 18, 2022 at 4:22:28 PM UTC-4 Eric Daume wrote:
>>
>>> That's a good idea Laing... I have some nice cantis I would like to use, 
>>> but no V brakes on hand. I think I'll try something like this.
>>>
>>> Eric
>>>
>>> On Mon, Jul 18, 2022 at 4:19 PM lconley  wrote:
>>>
 Use one of these. Works front or rear with different length bolt:
 [image: brake.JPG][image: brake.JPG]

 Laing

>>>


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Re: [RBW] Re: Rosco Platy!

[Garth]

A funky monkey could only be used if you changed to a 27.2 seatpost with 
the proper seat tube shim. The Roco has a 29.8 post. 

If the seat lug teardrop thingy didn't go so far down you could attach a 
31.8mm front drop cable stop with either a curved or flexible noodle to 
adjust for the angle, but it's there so that won't work either. 

The Tektro fork mounted hangers look fine and all on a computer screen. 
When the rubber meets the road however, it appears the rear brake bridge is 
like the Susie, with the threaded hold facing down. Besides, even if you 
could attach it, those hangers on the rear place the cable stop notably 
offset (rearward) from where a frame mounted cable stop would be. I tried 
it on the Susie. 

All of that though .well why should one have to go through all those 
hoops when the entire problem is one of omitting the cable stop bridge ? 
((Yes I know, I'm just howling to the moon and the Moon ain't replying, 
teeheehee)) They cost about $1.95 from a frame supplier, retail. For a 
builder, ummm  pennies. Labor involved, c'mon . do we really want 
to go there ?  So it surely can't be about penny pinching, especially on a 
$1350 frame. So why not include it ?(((again ... how-ooo-ling))) I could 
make all sorts of not so nice assumptions but they'd be no more than that. 
There is really no excuse for not having one.  Canti brakes are not going 
away. There's plenty to choose from still, so no that's no excuse. 

I'm okay with not getting one though as it wasn't exactly what I'd like in 
frame anyways. I have a Susie and as of now I have no desire to even build 
it, let alone ride. Through all this I realize I happen to really like 
"regular" diamond shaped bikes that take stock length chains and can be 
used with either drop bars or say a Albatross/stache bar, not one of those 
monster swept back bars. While I'll never rid myself of the Bombadil I 
don't think I'll ever buy another Riv. That's not knock, just my preference 
from what feels natural to me, that's like my custom Franklin 
road/sport/touring kinda frame. 
On Monday, July 18, 2022 at 4:28:42 PM UTC-4 lconley wrote:

> Ran into the same thing on the Rosco Baby:
>
> [image: b (2).jpg]
>
> Laing
>
>
> On Monday, July 18, 2022 at 4:22:28 PM UTC-4 Eric Daume wrote:
>
>> That's a good idea Laing... I have some nice cantis I would like to use, 
>> but no V brakes on hand. I think I'll try something like this.
>>
>> Eric
>>
>> On Mon, Jul 18, 2022 at 4:19 PM lconley  wrote:
>>
>>> Use one of these. Works front or rear with different length bolt:
>>> [image: brake.JPG][image: brake.JPG]
>>>
>>> Laing
>>>
>>
>>>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Rosco Platy!

[Joe Bernard]

I believe (I can't find the spec now, maybe it was in a Riv email) the 
seatpost on these is 29.8. There's no Funky Monkey big enough. 

On Monday, July 18, 2022 at 1:16:13 PM UTC-7 Lucky wrote:

> Ok I finally have to ask if there’s a reason one could not use something 
> like a Paul Funky Monkey rear cable hanger for seatpost? Or a similar 
> cheaper device? I understand that it fixes the seat pretty well in place 
> but otherwise?
>
> On Jul 18, 2022, at 12:37, Wesley  wrote:
>
> If I were looking to mount cantilevers on a Rosco Platy, I'd use a small 
> loop of Spectra or Dyneema (high tech rope that's stronger than steel and 
> doesn't stretch). Loop it through a cable anger and around the seat post 
> stub like this, and you'd have a totally functional & totally unique brake 
> setup: 
>
> [image: seatpost-line.png]
> -W
> On Monday, July 18, 2022 at 11:13:51 AM UTC-7 allan@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> I called and asked about that forward-facing seat clamp because I have a 
>> NOS set of Dia Compe NGC 982 cantis that I have been saving aside for a 
>> mermaid Platypus build for my wife. We both got tired of waiting for the 
>> next Platy shipment and, per a conversation with Grant, the Rosco Platy has 
>> nearly identical geometry so we getting a green 50 cm frame instead. 
>>
>> Anyway, Will told me that the seat clamp lug was designed for the tandem 
>> frames and that they had been worried about too much heat weakening the 
>> seat tube in that area during fabrication. Turns out that the seat stays 
>> ended up being welded lower down and further away from the lug so they 
>> decided to use up those clamp lugs somewhere else.
>>
>> My plan is to put a collar around the seatpost (29.8mm) and anchor a 
>> Nitto long cable hanger from there. It’ll be a minor inconvenience to 
>> adjust the collar whenever the seat height needs changing but it’s not a 
>> frequent or big deal to me.
>>
>> The collar: 
>>
>> Looking forward to getting this frame!
>>
>> Allan in Marlboro, Vermont 
>>
>> On Friday, July 15, 2022 at 7:30:49 PM UTC-4 Garth wrote:
>>
>>> The ETT measurement is done so horizontally, as in perfectly level. 
>>> That's why it's called theoretical as it is referring to bikes with sloping 
>>> and/or missing top tubes(like a mixte). If you had a carpenters level you 
>>> could get it "fairly" accurate for conversational purposes, but just 
>>> eyeballing it not really. 
>>>
>>>
>>> I was seriously considering getting a purple one but then I noticed the 
>>> reverso seat clamp. No cantilever cable hanger = no deal. V-brakes are 
>>> "great"  (me making funny faces)  as long as they're not on any 
>>> bike I ride ;-). 
>>> On Friday, July 15, 2022 at 7:08:24 PM UTC-4 Joe Bernard wrote:
>>>
 Straight across from center of seatpost to center of headtube 👍

 On Friday, July 15, 2022 at 3:12:05 PM UTC-7 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
 wrote:

> Shoot, Joe, I don’t remember either! I suppose I could measure if you 
> tell me from where to where.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Jul 15, 2022, at 5:08 PM, Joe Bernard  wrote:
>
> Dagnabbit, now I wish I could remember what Leah said the effective 
> toptube is on her 55. Hey Leah! 🙋‍♂️
>
>
>
> On Friday, July 15, 2022 at 12:29:56 PM UTC-7 Garth wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> I finally got through, it seems there was some comical phone 
>> technology things happening but we finally connected. I hadn't given the 
>> Rosco Platy any thought at all, zee-ro. I got the email and thought I'd 
>> at 
>> least see what they look like. That's a great move to offer it in purple 
>> as 
>> it is a fine alternative to the common production colors. 
>>
>> If anyone else needs to know here's the 60 cm geo  Thanks Will ! 
>>
>> HTA 69.5d
>> STA 72d
>> Effective TT 652mm
>> Stack 666mm  
>> Reach 430mm
>> Chainstay 540mm
>> Rake 67mm
>> Front Center 726mm
>> Drop 80mm 
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Re: [RBW] Re: Rosco Platy!

[Eric Daume]

That's a good idea Laing... I have some nice cantis I would like to use,
but no V brakes on hand. I think I'll try something like this.

Eric

On Mon, Jul 18, 2022 at 4:19 PM lconley  wrote:

> Use one of these. Works front or rear with different length bolt:
> [image: brake.JPG][image: brake.JPG]
>
> Laing
>
>
> On Monday, July 18, 2022 at 3:37:27 PM UTC-4 Wesley wrote:
>
>> If I were looking to mount cantilevers on a Rosco Platy, I'd use a small
>> loop of Spectra or Dyneema (high tech rope that's stronger than steel and
>> doesn't stretch). Loop it through a cable anger and around the seat post
>> stub like this, and you'd have a totally functional & totally unique brake
>> setup:
>> [image: seatpost-line.png]
>> -W
>> On Monday, July 18, 2022 at 11:13:51 AM UTC-7 allan@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> I called and asked about that forward-facing seat clamp because I have a
>>> NOS set of Dia Compe NGC 982 cantis that I have been saving aside for a
>>> mermaid Platypus build for my wife. We both got tired of waiting for the
>>> next Platy shipment and, per a conversation with Grant, the Rosco Platy has
>>> nearly identical geometry so we getting a green 50 cm frame instead.
>>>
>>> Anyway, Will told me that the seat clamp lug was designed for the tandem
>>> frames and that they had been worried about too much heat weakening the
>>> seat tube in that area during fabrication. Turns out that the seat stays
>>> ended up being welded lower down and further away from the lug so they
>>> decided to use up those clamp lugs somewhere else.
>>>
>>> My plan is to put a collar around the seatpost (29.8mm) and anchor a
>>> Nitto long cable hanger from there. It’ll be a minor inconvenience to
>>> adjust the collar whenever the seat height needs changing but it’s not a
>>> frequent or big deal to me.
>>>
>>> The collar: 
>>>
>>> Looking forward to getting this frame!
>>>
>>> Allan in Marlboro, Vermont
>>>
>>> On Friday, July 15, 2022 at 7:30:49 PM UTC-4 Garth wrote:
>>>
 The ETT measurement is done so horizontally, as in perfectly level.
 That's why it's called theoretical as it is referring to bikes with sloping
 and/or missing top tubes(like a mixte). If you had a carpenters level you
 could get it "fairly" accurate for conversational purposes, but just
 eyeballing it not really.


 I was seriously considering getting a purple one but then I noticed the
 reverso seat clamp. No cantilever cable hanger = no deal. V-brakes are
 "great"  (me making funny faces)  as long as they're not on any
 bike I ride ;-).
 On Friday, July 15, 2022 at 7:08:24 PM UTC-4 Joe Bernard wrote:

> Straight across from center of seatpost to center of headtube 👍
>
> On Friday, July 15, 2022 at 3:12:05 PM UTC-7 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding!
> wrote:
>
>> Shoot, Joe, I don’t remember either! I suppose I could measure if you
>> tell me from where to where.
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Jul 15, 2022, at 5:08 PM, Joe Bernard  wrote:
>>
>> Dagnabbit, now I wish I could remember what Leah said the effective
>> toptube is on her 55. Hey Leah! 🙋‍♂️
>>
>>
>>
>> On Friday, July 15, 2022 at 12:29:56 PM UTC-7 Garth wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I finally got through, it seems there was some comical phone
>>> technology things happening but we finally connected. I hadn't given the
>>> Rosco Platy any thought at all, zee-ro. I got the email and thought I'd 
>>> at
>>> least see what they look like. That's a great move to offer it in 
>>> purple as
>>> it is a fine alternative to the common production colors.
>>>
>>> If anyone else needs to know here's the 60 cm geo  Thanks Will !
>>>
>>> HTA 69.5d
>>> STA 72d
>>> Effective TT 652mm
>>> Stack 666mm
>>> Reach 430mm
>>> Chainstay 540mm
>>> Rake 67mm
>>> Front Center 726mm
>>> Drop 80mm
>>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Rosco Platy!

[lconley]

Use one of these. Works front or rear with different length bolt:
[image: brake.JPG][image: brake.JPG]

Laing


On Monday, July 18, 2022 at 3:37:27 PM UTC-4 Wesley wrote:

> If I were looking to mount cantilevers on a Rosco Platy, I'd use a small 
> loop of Spectra or Dyneema (high tech rope that's stronger than steel and 
> doesn't stretch). Loop it through a cable anger and around the seat post 
> stub like this, and you'd have a totally functional & totally unique brake 
> setup: 
> [image: seatpost-line.png]
> -W
> On Monday, July 18, 2022 at 11:13:51 AM UTC-7 allan@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> I called and asked about that forward-facing seat clamp because I have a 
>> NOS set of Dia Compe NGC 982 cantis that I have been saving aside for a 
>> mermaid Platypus build for my wife. We both got tired of waiting for the 
>> next Platy shipment and, per a conversation with Grant, the Rosco Platy has 
>> nearly identical geometry so we getting a green 50 cm frame instead. 
>>
>> Anyway, Will told me that the seat clamp lug was designed for the tandem 
>> frames and that they had been worried about too much heat weakening the 
>> seat tube in that area during fabrication. Turns out that the seat stays 
>> ended up being welded lower down and further away from the lug so they 
>> decided to use up those clamp lugs somewhere else.
>>
>> My plan is to put a collar around the seatpost (29.8mm) and anchor a 
>> Nitto long cable hanger from there. It’ll be a minor inconvenience to 
>> adjust the collar whenever the seat height needs changing but it’s not a 
>> frequent or big deal to me.
>>
>> The collar: 
>>
>> Looking forward to getting this frame!
>>
>> Allan in Marlboro, Vermont 
>>
>> On Friday, July 15, 2022 at 7:30:49 PM UTC-4 Garth wrote:
>>
>>> The ETT measurement is done so horizontally, as in perfectly level. 
>>> That's why it's called theoretical as it is referring to bikes with sloping 
>>> and/or missing top tubes(like a mixte). If you had a carpenters level you 
>>> could get it "fairly" accurate for conversational purposes, but just 
>>> eyeballing it not really. 
>>>
>>>
>>> I was seriously considering getting a purple one but then I noticed the 
>>> reverso seat clamp. No cantilever cable hanger = no deal. V-brakes are 
>>> "great"  (me making funny faces)  as long as they're not on any 
>>> bike I ride ;-). 
>>> On Friday, July 15, 2022 at 7:08:24 PM UTC-4 Joe Bernard wrote:
>>>
 Straight across from center of seatpost to center of headtube 👍

 On Friday, July 15, 2022 at 3:12:05 PM UTC-7 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
 wrote:

> Shoot, Joe, I don’t remember either! I suppose I could measure if you 
> tell me from where to where.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Jul 15, 2022, at 5:08 PM, Joe Bernard  wrote:
>
> Dagnabbit, now I wish I could remember what Leah said the effective 
> toptube is on her 55. Hey Leah! 🙋‍♂️
>
>
>
> On Friday, July 15, 2022 at 12:29:56 PM UTC-7 Garth wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> I finally got through, it seems there was some comical phone 
>> technology things happening but we finally connected. I hadn't given the 
>> Rosco Platy any thought at all, zee-ro. I got the email and thought I'd 
>> at 
>> least see what they look like. That's a great move to offer it in purple 
>> as 
>> it is a fine alternative to the common production colors. 
>>
>> If anyone else needs to know here's the 60 cm geo  Thanks Will ! 
>>
>> HTA 69.5d
>> STA 72d
>> Effective TT 652mm
>> Stack 666mm  
>> Reach 430mm
>> Chainstay 540mm
>> Rake 67mm
>> Front Center 726mm
>> Drop 80mm 
>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Rosco Platy!

[Allan McLane]

I called and asked about that forward-facing seat clamp because I have a 
NOS set of Dia Compe NGC 982 cantis that I have been saving aside for a 
mermaid Platypus build for my wife. We both got tired of waiting for the 
next Platy shipment and, per a conversation with Grant, the Rosco Platy has 
nearly identical geometry so we getting a green 50 cm frame instead. 

Anyway, Will told me that the seat clamp lug was designed for the tandem 
frames and that they had been worried about too much heat weakening the 
seat tube in that area during fabrication. Turns out that the seat stays 
ended up being welded lower down and further away from the lug so they 
decided to use up those clamp lugs somewhere else.

My plan is to put a collar around the seatpost (29.8mm) and anchor a Nitto 
long cable hanger from there. It’ll be a minor inconvenience to adjust the 
collar whenever the seat height needs changing but it’s not a frequent or 
big deal to me.

The collar: 

Looking forward to getting this frame!

Allan in Marlboro, Vermont 

On Friday, July 15, 2022 at 7:30:49 PM UTC-4 Garth wrote:

> The ETT measurement is done so horizontally, as in perfectly level. That's 
> why it's called theoretical as it is referring to bikes with sloping and/or 
> missing top tubes(like a mixte). If you had a carpenters level you could 
> get it "fairly" accurate for conversational purposes, but just eyeballing 
> it not really. 
>
>
> I was seriously considering getting a purple one but then I noticed the 
> reverso seat clamp. No cantilever cable hanger = no deal. V-brakes are 
> "great"  (me making funny faces)  as long as they're not on any 
> bike I ride ;-). 
> On Friday, July 15, 2022 at 7:08:24 PM UTC-4 Joe Bernard wrote:
>
>> Straight across from center of seatpost to center of headtube 👍
>>
>> On Friday, July 15, 2022 at 3:12:05 PM UTC-7 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Shoot, Joe, I don’t remember either! I suppose I could measure if you 
>>> tell me from where to where.
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>> On Jul 15, 2022, at 5:08 PM, Joe Bernard  wrote:
>>>
>>> Dagnabbit, now I wish I could remember what Leah said the effective 
>>> toptube is on her 55. Hey Leah! 🙋‍♂️
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Friday, July 15, 2022 at 12:29:56 PM UTC-7 Garth wrote:
>>>


 I finally got through, it seems there was some comical phone technology 
 things happening but we finally connected. I hadn't given the Rosco Platy 
 any thought at all, zee-ro. I got the email and thought I'd at least see 
 what they look like. That's a great move to offer it in purple as it is a 
 fine alternative to the common production colors. 

 If anyone else needs to know here's the 60 cm geo  Thanks Will ! 

 HTA 69.5d
 STA 72d
 Effective TT 652mm
 Stack 666mm  
 Reach 430mm
 Chainstay 540mm
 Rake 67mm
 Front Center 726mm
 Drop 80mm 

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Re: [RBW] Re: Rosco Platy!

[Gary Johnson]

I'm kind of with Doug on this: as much fun as it would be to build up a new
Riv frame, I'm not sure what the point is because I have a Clem L I'm in
love with now.  Plus, I'm currently running north of 250 lbs (body weight,
not tire pressure), and I'm wondering if the new batch of Platy's is
designed as skookum as the Clem, which does not noodle in the least under
the load I impose.  Thoughts?

On Fri, Jul 15, 2022 at 8:58 AM Doug H.  wrote:

> I've been riding my Clem L on longish road rides and am tempted by the
> Rosco Platy but I don't think it would give me any benefit over my Clem. I
> really like the step-through design and after being conscious of it at
> first don't even give it a thought now. It is a burly looking bike to me.
> Riding over pavement cracks and stop indicators at intersections is no
> problem with the wide tires and long wheelbase. These were jarring on my
> old Felt road bike with skinny tires but now they hardly even register.
> Also, I am well-pleased with the Tosco bars and use the out front portion
> about 20% of the time on a long ride to stretch out my back and get good
> pedal leverage. I will be tempted by the Roaduno as an n+1 but as of now
> I'm satisfied riding the Clem.
> Doug
> Athens, GA
>
> On Friday, July 15, 2022 at 8:55:14 AM UTC-4 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding!
> wrote:
>
>> I, for one, can understand Johnny’s affinity for that Clem L. I prefer my
>> Platys, but only slightly. And you really can’t beat a true step-through.
>> I’m an advocate for having BOTH.
>>
>> In any case, I’m glad the Rivendell mixte line continues and that more
>> people of the male variety are accepting them as legit bikes and not girly
>> townies. And how fun that we are venturing into new territory with purple
>> paint! I think the builds on these mixtes will be so interesting. Hopefully
>> the new owners will be generous with their posts and photos and we will get
>> to see this limited edition bike doing its thing in the world.
>>
>> Anyone reading this snag a Rosco Platy yesterday? What did you get? How
>> will you build it up?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Jul 15, 2022, at 8:29 AM, Johnny Alien  wrote:
>>
>> I dig them (because I also dig Joe's custom) and I was all on board with
>> grabbing one when they were supposed to be out in May but with the delays I
>> wanted something sooner and fell into a Clem L which I am over the moon
>> about. I think they will sell a touch slower than other models because they
>> are more utility in visual design and priced higher than expected. Not that
>> its not a fair price but its certainly easier to sell a stripped down less
>> fancy Platy for $900-1000 (the original expected price) than $1350.
>> Congrats to everyone that got one. I was expecting to be on that train but
>> alas I am not.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thursday, July 14, 2022 at 7:45:14 PM UTC-5 Joe Bernard wrote:
>>
>>> I don't need another bike that's basically a production version of my
>>> custom and don't really have room for it, so it's probably good that they
>>> didn't do one in Mermaid. But there's a Mermaid demo there...
>>>
>>> On Thursday, July 14, 2022 at 5:37:53 PM UTC-7 Eric Daume wrote:
>>>
 I've been eyeing the 60cm purple, down to seven left, but only one sold
 in the last several hours. Hmm.

 Eric
 too many bikes, not enough budget


 On Thu, Jul 14, 2022 at 7:49 PM Joe Bernard  wrote:

> Still greens left in every size, both colors left in 60cm, 4:48pm pst
> 7/14/22. AnaPurple is the popular one.
>
> On Thursday, July 14, 2022 at 11:14:20 AM UTC-7 bmfo...@gmail.com
> wrote:
>
>> I feel like a lot of recent riv designs not only would require a
>> short stem but also downsizing a frame size for a proper drop bar set up.
>> Not good or bad in my mind, just inherent in the long top tube designs 
>> they
>> have been favoring lately. I will likely end up buying a ROADUNO, and had
>> hoped to put drops on it but based off of what we know so far I'm not 
>> sure
>> I'll be able to without dropping down a size. I don't want to do so from 
>> an
>> aesthetic perspective, so risers or swept back bars it'll be!
>>
>> On Thursday, July 14, 2022 at 12:47:18 PM UTC-5 Doug H. wrote:
>>
>>> A Rosco Platy for Skye!!
>>> Doug
>>>
>>> On Thu, Jul 14, 2022 at 1:44 PM Joe Bernard 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Well that was fun. I like my version of the Rosco Platy Presale
 thread better so I'm back over here to say I hope everybody grabs the 
 frame
 they want and shows them built up later so we can look at them. Have a 
 nice
 day! 🙋‍♂️🙂
 Joe Bernard

 On Tuesday, July 12, 2022 at 2:51:56 PM UTC-7 Joe Bernard wrote:

> Here's the product page. My daughter saw the email before me and
> sent a pic of the green one with this text:
> "I don't even ride bikes and I love this."
>
>

Re: [RBW] Re: Rosco Platy!

[Leah Peterson]

Joe, 
Condescending? Never. Ill get that measurement if can remember to do it before 
I load the Platy on the rack this morning. And it will, of course, be wrong but 
hopefully you’ll see a number in there that makes sense.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 15, 2022, at 11:52 PM, Joe Bernard  wrote:
> 
> ...which I just did. Cuz seriously, I'm bad about this. 
> 
>> On Friday, July 15, 2022 at 6:01:06 PM UTC-7 Joe Bernard wrote:
>> The only valid reason I see is extremely Rivendellian: I'm a notorious 
>> saddle height fiddler and the rear facing binder bolt interferes with my 
>> Medium SaddleSack when I stop to adjust it. I'd love to have that bolt on 
>> the front side. 
>> 
>>> On Friday, July 15, 2022 at 5:50:41 PM UTC-7 Johnny Alien wrote:
>>> I prefer V brakes but like cantis as well. I see no valid reason to flip 
>>> that seat clamp other than to be contrarian. 
>>> 
 On Friday, July 15, 2022 at 7:45:27 PM UTC-4 Joe Bernard wrote:
 V-brakes rule! I hope I never fiddle with another cable hanger and its 
 corresponding and maddening straddle cable ever again. 
 
 Also my 👍 in my answer to Leah now strikes me as looking weirdly 
 condescending. Not my intention, Leah! 
 
 Joe "unintentional" Bernard 
 
> On Friday, July 15, 2022 at 4:30:49 PM UTC-7 Garth wrote:
> The ETT measurement is done so horizontally, as in perfectly level. 
> That's why it's called theoretical as it is referring to bikes with 
> sloping and/or missing top tubes(like a mixte). If you had a carpenters 
> level you could get it "fairly" accurate for conversational purposes, but 
> just eyeballing it not really. 
> 
> 
> I was seriously considering getting a purple one but then I noticed the 
> reverso seat clamp. No cantilever cable hanger = no deal. V-brakes are 
> "great"  (me making funny faces)  as long as they're not on any 
> bike I ride ;-). 
>> On Friday, July 15, 2022 at 7:08:24 PM UTC-4 Joe Bernard wrote:
>> Straight across from center of seatpost to center of headtube 👍
>> 
>>> On Friday, July 15, 2022 at 3:12:05 PM UTC-7 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
>>> wrote:
>>> Shoot, Joe, I don’t remember either! I suppose I could measure if you 
>>> tell me from where to where.
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
> On Jul 15, 2022, at 5:08 PM, Joe Bernard  wrote:
> 
 Dagnabbit, now I wish I could remember what Leah said the effective 
 toptube is on her 55. Hey Leah! 🙋‍♂️
>>> 
 
 
>> On Friday, July 15, 2022 at 12:29:56 PM UTC-7 Garth wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> I finally got through, it seems there was some comical phone 
>> technology things happening but we finally connected. I hadn't given 
>> the Rosco Platy any thought at all, zee-ro. I got the email and 
>> thought I'd at least see what they look like. That's a great move to 
>> offer it in purple as it is a fine alternative to the common 
>> production colors. 
>> 
>> If anyone else needs to know here's the 60 cm geo  Thanks Will ! 
>> 
>> HTA 69.5d
>> STA 72d
>> Effective TT 652mm
>> Stack 666mm  
>> Reach 430mm
>> Chainstay 540mm
>> Rake 67mm
>> Front Center 726mm
>> Drop 80mm 
>> 
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Re: [RBW] Re: Rosco Platy!

[Joe Bernard]

The only valid reason I see is extremely Rivendellian: I'm a notorious 
saddle height fiddler and the rear facing binder bolt interferes with my 
Medium SaddleSack when I stop to adjust it. I'd love to have that bolt on 
the front side. 

On Friday, July 15, 2022 at 5:50:41 PM UTC-7 Johnny Alien wrote:

> I prefer V brakes but like cantis as well. I see no valid reason to flip 
> that seat clamp other than to be contrarian. 
>
> On Friday, July 15, 2022 at 7:45:27 PM UTC-4 Joe Bernard wrote:
>
>> V-brakes rule! I hope I never fiddle with another cable hanger and its 
>> corresponding and maddening straddle cable ever again. 
>>
>> Also my 👍 in my answer to Leah now strikes me as looking weirdly 
>> condescending. Not my intention, Leah! 
>>
>> Joe "unintentional" Bernard 
>>
>> On Friday, July 15, 2022 at 4:30:49 PM UTC-7 Garth wrote:
>>
>>> The ETT measurement is done so horizontally, as in perfectly level. 
>>> That's why it's called theoretical as it is referring to bikes with sloping 
>>> and/or missing top tubes(like a mixte). If you had a carpenters level you 
>>> could get it "fairly" accurate for conversational purposes, but just 
>>> eyeballing it not really. 
>>>
>>>
>>> I was seriously considering getting a purple one but then I noticed the 
>>> reverso seat clamp. No cantilever cable hanger = no deal. V-brakes are 
>>> "great"  (me making funny faces)  as long as they're not on any 
>>> bike I ride ;-). 
>>> On Friday, July 15, 2022 at 7:08:24 PM UTC-4 Joe Bernard wrote:
>>>
 Straight across from center of seatpost to center of headtube 👍

 On Friday, July 15, 2022 at 3:12:05 PM UTC-7 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
 wrote:

> Shoot, Joe, I don’t remember either! I suppose I could measure if you 
> tell me from where to where.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Jul 15, 2022, at 5:08 PM, Joe Bernard  wrote:
>
> Dagnabbit, now I wish I could remember what Leah said the effective 
> toptube is on her 55. Hey Leah! 🙋‍♂️
>
>
>
> On Friday, July 15, 2022 at 12:29:56 PM UTC-7 Garth wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> I finally got through, it seems there was some comical phone 
>> technology things happening but we finally connected. I hadn't given the 
>> Rosco Platy any thought at all, zee-ro. I got the email and thought I'd 
>> at 
>> least see what they look like. That's a great move to offer it in purple 
>> as 
>> it is a fine alternative to the common production colors. 
>>
>> If anyone else needs to know here's the 60 cm geo  Thanks Will ! 
>>
>> HTA 69.5d
>> STA 72d
>> Effective TT 652mm
>> Stack 666mm  
>> Reach 430mm
>> Chainstay 540mm
>> Rake 67mm
>> Front Center 726mm
>> Drop 80mm 
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Re: [RBW] Re: Rosco Platy!

[Johnny Alien]

I prefer V brakes but like cantis as well. I see no valid reason to flip 
that seat clamp other than to be contrarian. 

On Friday, July 15, 2022 at 7:45:27 PM UTC-4 Joe Bernard wrote:

> V-brakes rule! I hope I never fiddle with another cable hanger and its 
> corresponding and maddening straddle cable ever again. 
>
> Also my 👍 in my answer to Leah now strikes me as looking weirdly 
> condescending. Not my intention, Leah! 
>
> Joe "unintentional" Bernard 
>
> On Friday, July 15, 2022 at 4:30:49 PM UTC-7 Garth wrote:
>
>> The ETT measurement is done so horizontally, as in perfectly level. 
>> That's why it's called theoretical as it is referring to bikes with sloping 
>> and/or missing top tubes(like a mixte). If you had a carpenters level you 
>> could get it "fairly" accurate for conversational purposes, but just 
>> eyeballing it not really. 
>>
>>
>> I was seriously considering getting a purple one but then I noticed the 
>> reverso seat clamp. No cantilever cable hanger = no deal. V-brakes are 
>> "great"  (me making funny faces)  as long as they're not on any 
>> bike I ride ;-). 
>> On Friday, July 15, 2022 at 7:08:24 PM UTC-4 Joe Bernard wrote:
>>
>>> Straight across from center of seatpost to center of headtube 👍
>>>
>>> On Friday, July 15, 2022 at 3:12:05 PM UTC-7 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Shoot, Joe, I don’t remember either! I suppose I could measure if you 
 tell me from where to where.

 Sent from my iPhone

 On Jul 15, 2022, at 5:08 PM, Joe Bernard  wrote:

 Dagnabbit, now I wish I could remember what Leah said the effective 
 toptube is on her 55. Hey Leah! 🙋‍♂️



 On Friday, July 15, 2022 at 12:29:56 PM UTC-7 Garth wrote:

>
>
> I finally got through, it seems there was some comical phone 
> technology things happening but we finally connected. I hadn't given the 
> Rosco Platy any thought at all, zee-ro. I got the email and thought I'd 
> at 
> least see what they look like. That's a great move to offer it in purple 
> as 
> it is a fine alternative to the common production colors. 
>
> If anyone else needs to know here's the 60 cm geo  Thanks Will ! 
>
> HTA 69.5d
> STA 72d
> Effective TT 652mm
> Stack 666mm  
> Reach 430mm
> Chainstay 540mm
> Rake 67mm
> Front Center 726mm
> Drop 80mm 
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Re: [RBW] Re: Rosco Platy!

[Joe Bernard]

V-brakes rule! I hope I never fiddle with another cable hanger and its 
corresponding and maddening straddle cable ever again. 

Also my 👍 in my answer to Leah now strikes me as looking weirdly 
condescending. Not my intention, Leah! 

Joe "unintentional" Bernard 

On Friday, July 15, 2022 at 4:30:49 PM UTC-7 Garth wrote:

> The ETT measurement is done so horizontally, as in perfectly level. That's 
> why it's called theoretical as it is referring to bikes with sloping and/or 
> missing top tubes(like a mixte). If you had a carpenters level you could 
> get it "fairly" accurate for conversational purposes, but just eyeballing 
> it not really. 
>
>
> I was seriously considering getting a purple one but then I noticed the 
> reverso seat clamp. No cantilever cable hanger = no deal. V-brakes are 
> "great"  (me making funny faces)  as long as they're not on any 
> bike I ride ;-). 
> On Friday, July 15, 2022 at 7:08:24 PM UTC-4 Joe Bernard wrote:
>
>> Straight across from center of seatpost to center of headtube 👍
>>
>> On Friday, July 15, 2022 at 3:12:05 PM UTC-7 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Shoot, Joe, I don’t remember either! I suppose I could measure if you 
>>> tell me from where to where.
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>> On Jul 15, 2022, at 5:08 PM, Joe Bernard  wrote:
>>>
>>> Dagnabbit, now I wish I could remember what Leah said the effective 
>>> toptube is on her 55. Hey Leah! 🙋‍♂️
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Friday, July 15, 2022 at 12:29:56 PM UTC-7 Garth wrote:
>>>


 I finally got through, it seems there was some comical phone technology 
 things happening but we finally connected. I hadn't given the Rosco Platy 
 any thought at all, zee-ro. I got the email and thought I'd at least see 
 what they look like. That's a great move to offer it in purple as it is a 
 fine alternative to the common production colors. 

 If anyone else needs to know here's the 60 cm geo  Thanks Will ! 

 HTA 69.5d
 STA 72d
 Effective TT 652mm
 Stack 666mm  
 Reach 430mm
 Chainstay 540mm
 Rake 67mm
 Front Center 726mm
 Drop 80mm 

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Re: [RBW] Re: Rosco Platy!

[Garth]

The ETT measurement is done so horizontally, as in perfectly level. That's 
why it's called theoretical as it is referring to bikes with sloping and/or 
missing top tubes(like a mixte). If you had a carpenters level you could 
get it "fairly" accurate for conversational purposes, but just eyeballing 
it not really. 


I was seriously considering getting a purple one but then I noticed the 
reverso seat clamp. No cantilever cable hanger = no deal. V-brakes are 
"great"  (me making funny faces)  as long as they're not on any 
bike I ride ;-). 
On Friday, July 15, 2022 at 7:08:24 PM UTC-4 Joe Bernard wrote:

> Straight across from center of seatpost to center of headtube 👍
>
> On Friday, July 15, 2022 at 3:12:05 PM UTC-7 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
> wrote:
>
>> Shoot, Joe, I don’t remember either! I suppose I could measure if you 
>> tell me from where to where.
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Jul 15, 2022, at 5:08 PM, Joe Bernard  wrote:
>>
>> Dagnabbit, now I wish I could remember what Leah said the effective 
>> toptube is on her 55. Hey Leah! 🙋‍♂️
>>
>>
>>
>> On Friday, July 15, 2022 at 12:29:56 PM UTC-7 Garth wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I finally got through, it seems there was some comical phone technology 
>>> things happening but we finally connected. I hadn't given the Rosco Platy 
>>> any thought at all, zee-ro. I got the email and thought I'd at least see 
>>> what they look like. That's a great move to offer it in purple as it is a 
>>> fine alternative to the common production colors. 
>>>
>>> If anyone else needs to know here's the 60 cm geo  Thanks Will ! 
>>>
>>> HTA 69.5d
>>> STA 72d
>>> Effective TT 652mm
>>> Stack 666mm  
>>> Reach 430mm
>>> Chainstay 540mm
>>> Rake 67mm
>>> Front Center 726mm
>>> Drop 80mm 
>>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Rosco Platy!

[Joe Bernard]

Straight across from center of seatpost to center of headtube 👍

On Friday, July 15, 2022 at 3:12:05 PM UTC-7 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! wrote:

> Shoot, Joe, I don’t remember either! I suppose I could measure if you tell 
> me from where to where.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Jul 15, 2022, at 5:08 PM, Joe Bernard  wrote:
>
> Dagnabbit, now I wish I could remember what Leah said the effective 
> toptube is on her 55. Hey Leah! 🙋‍♂️
>
>
>
> On Friday, July 15, 2022 at 12:29:56 PM UTC-7 Garth wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> I finally got through, it seems there was some comical phone technology 
>> things happening but we finally connected. I hadn't given the Rosco Platy 
>> any thought at all, zee-ro. I got the email and thought I'd at least see 
>> what they look like. That's a great move to offer it in purple as it is a 
>> fine alternative to the common production colors. 
>>
>> If anyone else needs to know here's the 60 cm geo  Thanks Will ! 
>>
>> HTA 69.5d
>> STA 72d
>> Effective TT 652mm
>> Stack 666mm  
>> Reach 430mm
>> Chainstay 540mm
>> Rake 67mm
>> Front Center 726mm
>> Drop 80mm 
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Re: [RBW] Re: Rosco Platy!

[Leah Peterson]

Shoot, Joe, I don’t remember either! I suppose I could measure if you tell me 
from where to where.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 15, 2022, at 5:08 PM, Joe Bernard  wrote:
> 
> Dagnabbit, now I wish I could remember what Leah said the effective toptube 
> is on her 55. Hey Leah! 🙋‍♂️
> 
>> On Friday, July 15, 2022 at 12:29:56 PM UTC-7 Garth wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> I finally got through, it seems there was some comical phone technology 
>> things happening but we finally connected. I hadn't given the Rosco Platy 
>> any thought at all, zee-ro. I got the email and thought I'd at least see 
>> what they look like. That's a great move to offer it in purple as it is a 
>> fine alternative to the common production colors. 
>> 
>> If anyone else needs to know here's the 60 cm geo  Thanks Will ! 
>> 
>> HTA 69.5d
>> STA 72d
>> Effective TT 652mm
>> Stack 666mm  
>> Reach 430mm
>> Chainstay 540mm
>> Rake 67mm
>> Front Center 726mm
>> Drop 80mm 
>> 
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Re: [RBW] Re: Rosco Platy!

[Joe Bernard]

Dagnabbit, now I wish I could remember what Leah said the effective toptube 
is on her 55. Hey Leah! 🙋‍♂️

On Friday, July 15, 2022 at 12:29:56 PM UTC-7 Garth wrote:

>
>
> I finally got through, it seems there was some comical phone technology 
> things happening but we finally connected. I hadn't given the Rosco Platy 
> any thought at all, zee-ro. I got the email and thought I'd at least see 
> what they look like. That's a great move to offer it in purple as it is a 
> fine alternative to the common production colors. 
>
> If anyone else needs to know here's the 60 cm geo  Thanks Will ! 
>
> HTA 69.5d
> STA 72d
> Effective TT 652mm
> Stack 666mm  
> Reach 430mm
> Chainstay 540mm
> Rake 67mm
> Front Center 726mm
> Drop 80mm 
>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Rosco Platy!

[Garth]

I finally got through, it seems there was some comical phone technology 
things happening but we finally connected. I hadn't given the Rosco Platy 
any thought at all, zee-ro. I got the email and thought I'd at least see 
what they look like. That's a great move to offer it in purple as it is a 
fine alternative to the common production colors. 

If anyone else needs to know here's the 60 cm geo  Thanks Will ! 

HTA 69.5d
STA 72d
Effective TT 652mm
Stack 666mm  
Reach 430mm
Chainstay 540mm
Rake 67mm
Front Center 726mm
Drop 80mm 

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Re: [RBW] Re: Rosco Platy!

[Garth]

That's what I thought Joe, but back when I had asked Will about the Platy 
being an "updated" Chev and he told me it was not. 

It seems if Riv's phone is busy it just rings once and disconnects rather 
than giving a busy signal .
On Friday, July 15, 2022 at 2:40:27 PM UTC-4 Joe Bernard wrote:

> I've never seen a geometry chart for the Platypus but this frame is based 
> on that one and that one is an updated Cheviot s..a 60cm Cheviot has a 
> 62.2cm ETT. 
>
> On Friday, July 15, 2022 at 11:17:47 AM UTC-7 Garth wrote:
>
>> Does anyone happen to have the geometry of the 60cm ?  I've been trying 
>> to call Riv but all I get is one ring and it disconnects. 
>>
>> On Friday, July 15, 2022 at 11:58:46 AM UTC-4 Doug H. wrote:
>>
>>> I've been riding my Clem L on longish road rides and am tempted by the 
>>> Rosco Platy but I don't think it would give me any benefit over my Clem. I 
>>> really like the step-through design and after being conscious of it at 
>>> first don't even give it a thought now. It is a burly looking bike to me. 
>>> Riding over pavement cracks and stop indicators at intersections is no 
>>> problem with the wide tires and long wheelbase. These were jarring on my 
>>> old Felt road bike with skinny tires but now they hardly even register. 
>>> Also, I am well-pleased with the Tosco bars and use the out front portion 
>>> about 20% of the time on a long ride to stretch out my back and get good 
>>> pedal leverage. I will be tempted by the Roaduno as an n+1 but as of now 
>>> I'm satisfied riding the Clem.
>>> Doug
>>> Athens, GA
>>>
>>> On Friday, July 15, 2022 at 8:55:14 AM UTC-4 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 I, for one, can understand Johnny’s affinity for that Clem L. I prefer 
 my Platys, but only slightly. And you really can’t beat a true 
 step-through. I’m an advocate for having BOTH. 

 In any case, I’m glad the Rivendell mixte line continues and that more 
 people of the male variety are accepting them as legit bikes and not girly 
 townies. And how fun that we are venturing into new territory with purple 
 paint! I think the builds on these mixtes will be so interesting. 
 Hopefully 
 the new owners will be generous with their posts and photos and we will 
 get 
 to see this limited edition bike doing its thing in the world.

 Anyone reading this snag a Rosco Platy yesterday? What did you get? How 
 will you build it up?




 On Jul 15, 2022, at 8:29 AM, Johnny Alien  wrote:

 I dig them (because I also dig Joe's custom) and I was all on board 
 with grabbing one when they were supposed to be out in May but with the 
 delays I wanted something sooner and fell into a Clem L which I am over 
 the 
 moon about. I think they will sell a touch slower than other models 
 because 
 they are more utility in visual design and priced higher than expected. 
 Not 
 that its not a fair price but its certainly easier to sell a stripped down 
 less fancy Platy for $900-1000 (the original expected price) than $1350. 
 Congrats to everyone that got one. I was expecting to be on that train but 
 alas I am not.



 On Thursday, July 14, 2022 at 7:45:14 PM UTC-5 Joe Bernard wrote:

> I don't need another bike that's basically a production version of my 
> custom and don't really have room for it, so it's probably good that they 
> didn't do one in Mermaid. But there's a Mermaid demo there...
>
> On Thursday, July 14, 2022 at 5:37:53 PM UTC-7 Eric Daume wrote:
>
>> I've been eyeing the 60cm purple, down to seven left, but only one 
>> sold in the last several hours. Hmm.
>>
>> Eric
>> too many bikes, not enough budget
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Jul 14, 2022 at 7:49 PM Joe Bernard  
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Still greens left in every size, both colors left in 60cm, 4:48pm 
>>> pst 7/14/22. AnaPurple is the popular one. 
>>>
>>> On Thursday, July 14, 2022 at 11:14:20 AM UTC-7 bmfo...@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 I feel like a lot of recent riv designs not only would require a 
 short stem but also downsizing a frame size for a proper drop bar set 
 up. 
 Not good or bad in my mind, just inherent in the long top tube designs 
 they 
 have been favoring lately. I will likely end up buying a ROADUNO, and 
 had 
 hoped to put drops on it but based off of what we know so far I'm not 
 sure 
 I'll be able to without dropping down a size. I don't want to do so 
 from an 
 aesthetic perspective, so risers or swept back bars it'll be!

 On Thursday, July 14, 2022 at 12:47:18 PM UTC-5 Doug H. wrote:

> A Rosco Platy for Skye!!
> Doug
>
> On Thu, Jul 14, 2022 at 1:44 PM Joe Bernard  
> wrote:
>
>> Well th

Re: [RBW] Re: Rosco Platy!

[Garth]

Does anyone happen to have the geometry of the 60cm ?  I've been trying to 
call Riv but all I get is one ring and it disconnects. 

On Friday, July 15, 2022 at 11:58:46 AM UTC-4 Doug H. wrote:

> I've been riding my Clem L on longish road rides and am tempted by the 
> Rosco Platy but I don't think it would give me any benefit over my Clem. I 
> really like the step-through design and after being conscious of it at 
> first don't even give it a thought now. It is a burly looking bike to me. 
> Riding over pavement cracks and stop indicators at intersections is no 
> problem with the wide tires and long wheelbase. These were jarring on my 
> old Felt road bike with skinny tires but now they hardly even register. 
> Also, I am well-pleased with the Tosco bars and use the out front portion 
> about 20% of the time on a long ride to stretch out my back and get good 
> pedal leverage. I will be tempted by the Roaduno as an n+1 but as of now 
> I'm satisfied riding the Clem.
> Doug
> Athens, GA
>
> On Friday, July 15, 2022 at 8:55:14 AM UTC-4 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
> wrote:
>
>> I, for one, can understand Johnny’s affinity for that Clem L. I prefer my 
>> Platys, but only slightly. And you really can’t beat a true step-through. 
>> I’m an advocate for having BOTH. 
>>
>> In any case, I’m glad the Rivendell mixte line continues and that more 
>> people of the male variety are accepting them as legit bikes and not girly 
>> townies. And how fun that we are venturing into new territory with purple 
>> paint! I think the builds on these mixtes will be so interesting. Hopefully 
>> the new owners will be generous with their posts and photos and we will get 
>> to see this limited edition bike doing its thing in the world.
>>
>> Anyone reading this snag a Rosco Platy yesterday? What did you get? How 
>> will you build it up?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Jul 15, 2022, at 8:29 AM, Johnny Alien  wrote:
>>
>> I dig them (because I also dig Joe's custom) and I was all on board with 
>> grabbing one when they were supposed to be out in May but with the delays I 
>> wanted something sooner and fell into a Clem L which I am over the moon 
>> about. I think they will sell a touch slower than other models because they 
>> are more utility in visual design and priced higher than expected. Not that 
>> its not a fair price but its certainly easier to sell a stripped down less 
>> fancy Platy for $900-1000 (the original expected price) than $1350. 
>> Congrats to everyone that got one. I was expecting to be on that train but 
>> alas I am not.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thursday, July 14, 2022 at 7:45:14 PM UTC-5 Joe Bernard wrote:
>>
>>> I don't need another bike that's basically a production version of my 
>>> custom and don't really have room for it, so it's probably good that they 
>>> didn't do one in Mermaid. But there's a Mermaid demo there...
>>>
>>> On Thursday, July 14, 2022 at 5:37:53 PM UTC-7 Eric Daume wrote:
>>>
 I've been eyeing the 60cm purple, down to seven left, but only one sold 
 in the last several hours. Hmm.

 Eric
 too many bikes, not enough budget


 On Thu, Jul 14, 2022 at 7:49 PM Joe Bernard  wrote:

> Still greens left in every size, both colors left in 60cm, 4:48pm pst 
> 7/14/22. AnaPurple is the popular one. 
>
> On Thursday, July 14, 2022 at 11:14:20 AM UTC-7 bmfo...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> I feel like a lot of recent riv designs not only would require a 
>> short stem but also downsizing a frame size for a proper drop bar set 
>> up. 
>> Not good or bad in my mind, just inherent in the long top tube designs 
>> they 
>> have been favoring lately. I will likely end up buying a ROADUNO, and 
>> had 
>> hoped to put drops on it but based off of what we know so far I'm not 
>> sure 
>> I'll be able to without dropping down a size. I don't want to do so from 
>> an 
>> aesthetic perspective, so risers or swept back bars it'll be!
>>
>> On Thursday, July 14, 2022 at 12:47:18 PM UTC-5 Doug H. wrote:
>>
>>> A Rosco Platy for Skye!!
>>> Doug
>>>
>>> On Thu, Jul 14, 2022 at 1:44 PM Joe Bernard  
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Well that was fun. I like my version of the Rosco Platy Presale 
 thread better so I'm back over here to say I hope everybody grabs the 
 frame 
 they want and shows them built up later so we can look at them. Have a 
 nice 
 day! 🙋‍♂️🙂 
 Joe Bernard 

 On Tuesday, July 12, 2022 at 2:51:56 PM UTC-7 Joe Bernard wrote:

> Here's the product page. My daughter saw the email before me and 
> sent a pic of the green one with this text: 
> "I don't even ride bikes and I love this."
>
>
> https://www.rivbike.com/products/rosco-platypus-presale-eta-early-august
>
> Joe and Skye Bernard 
>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Rosco Platy!

[Doug H.]

I've been riding my Clem L on longish road rides and am tempted by the 
Rosco Platy but I don't think it would give me any benefit over my Clem. I 
really like the step-through design and after being conscious of it at 
first don't even give it a thought now. It is a burly looking bike to me. 
Riding over pavement cracks and stop indicators at intersections is no 
problem with the wide tires and long wheelbase. These were jarring on my 
old Felt road bike with skinny tires but now they hardly even register. 
Also, I am well-pleased with the Tosco bars and use the out front portion 
about 20% of the time on a long ride to stretch out my back and get good 
pedal leverage. I will be tempted by the Roaduno as an n+1 but as of now 
I'm satisfied riding the Clem.
Doug
Athens, GA

On Friday, July 15, 2022 at 8:55:14 AM UTC-4 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! wrote:

> I, for one, can understand Johnny’s affinity for that Clem L. I prefer my 
> Platys, but only slightly. And you really can’t beat a true step-through. 
> I’m an advocate for having BOTH. 
>
> In any case, I’m glad the Rivendell mixte line continues and that more 
> people of the male variety are accepting them as legit bikes and not girly 
> townies. And how fun that we are venturing into new territory with purple 
> paint! I think the builds on these mixtes will be so interesting. Hopefully 
> the new owners will be generous with their posts and photos and we will get 
> to see this limited edition bike doing its thing in the world.
>
> Anyone reading this snag a Rosco Platy yesterday? What did you get? How 
> will you build it up?
>
>
>
>
> On Jul 15, 2022, at 8:29 AM, Johnny Alien  wrote:
>
> I dig them (because I also dig Joe's custom) and I was all on board with 
> grabbing one when they were supposed to be out in May but with the delays I 
> wanted something sooner and fell into a Clem L which I am over the moon 
> about. I think they will sell a touch slower than other models because they 
> are more utility in visual design and priced higher than expected. Not that 
> its not a fair price but its certainly easier to sell a stripped down less 
> fancy Platy for $900-1000 (the original expected price) than $1350. 
> Congrats to everyone that got one. I was expecting to be on that train but 
> alas I am not.
>
>
>
> On Thursday, July 14, 2022 at 7:45:14 PM UTC-5 Joe Bernard wrote:
>
>> I don't need another bike that's basically a production version of my 
>> custom and don't really have room for it, so it's probably good that they 
>> didn't do one in Mermaid. But there's a Mermaid demo there...
>>
>> On Thursday, July 14, 2022 at 5:37:53 PM UTC-7 Eric Daume wrote:
>>
>>> I've been eyeing the 60cm purple, down to seven left, but only one sold 
>>> in the last several hours. Hmm.
>>>
>>> Eric
>>> too many bikes, not enough budget
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Jul 14, 2022 at 7:49 PM Joe Bernard  wrote:
>>>
 Still greens left in every size, both colors left in 60cm, 4:48pm pst 
 7/14/22. AnaPurple is the popular one. 

 On Thursday, July 14, 2022 at 11:14:20 AM UTC-7 bmfo...@gmail.com 
 wrote:

> I feel like a lot of recent riv designs not only would require a short 
> stem but also downsizing a frame size for a proper drop bar set up. Not 
> good or bad in my mind, just inherent in the long top tube designs they 
> have been favoring lately. I will likely end up buying a ROADUNO, and had 
> hoped to put drops on it but based off of what we know so far I'm not 
> sure 
> I'll be able to without dropping down a size. I don't want to do so from 
> an 
> aesthetic perspective, so risers or swept back bars it'll be!
>
> On Thursday, July 14, 2022 at 12:47:18 PM UTC-5 Doug H. wrote:
>
>> A Rosco Platy for Skye!!
>> Doug
>>
>> On Thu, Jul 14, 2022 at 1:44 PM Joe Bernard  
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Well that was fun. I like my version of the Rosco Platy Presale 
>>> thread better so I'm back over here to say I hope everybody grabs the 
>>> frame 
>>> they want and shows them built up later so we can look at them. Have a 
>>> nice 
>>> day! 🙋‍♂️🙂 
>>> Joe Bernard 
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, July 12, 2022 at 2:51:56 PM UTC-7 Joe Bernard wrote:
>>>
 Here's the product page. My daughter saw the email before me and 
 sent a pic of the green one with this text: 
 "I don't even ride bikes and I love this."


 https://www.rivbike.com/products/rosco-platypus-presale-eta-early-august

 Joe and Skye Bernard 

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Re: [RBW] Re: Rosco Platy!

[Leah Peterson]

I, for one, can understand Johnny’s affinity for that Clem L. I prefer my 
Platys, but only slightly. And you really can’t beat a true step-through. I’m 
an advocate for having BOTH. 

In any case, I’m glad the Rivendell mixte line continues and that more people 
of the male variety are accepting them as legit bikes and not girly townies. 
And how fun that we are venturing into new territory with purple paint! I think 
the builds on these mixtes will be so interesting. Hopefully the new owners 
will be generous with their posts and photos and we will get to see this 
limited edition bike doing its thing in the world.

Anyone reading this snag a Rosco Platy yesterday? What did you get? How will 
you build it up?




> On Jul 15, 2022, at 8:29 AM, Johnny Alien  wrote:
> 
> I dig them (because I also dig Joe's custom) and I was all on board with 
> grabbing one when they were supposed to be out in May but with the delays I 
> wanted something sooner and fell into a Clem L which I am over the moon 
> about. I think they will sell a touch slower than other models because they 
> are more utility in visual design and priced higher than expected. Not that 
> its not a fair price but its certainly easier to sell a stripped down less 
> fancy Platy for $900-1000 (the original expected price) than $1350. Congrats 
> to everyone that got one. I was expecting to be on that train but alas I am 
> not.
> 
>> On Thursday, July 14, 2022 at 7:45:14 PM UTC-5 Joe Bernard wrote:
>> I don't need another bike that's basically a production version of my custom 
>> and don't really have room for it, so it's probably good that they didn't do 
>> one in Mermaid. But there's a Mermaid demo there...
>> 
>>> On Thursday, July 14, 2022 at 5:37:53 PM UTC-7 Eric Daume wrote:
>>> I've been eyeing the 60cm purple, down to seven left, but only one sold in 
>>> the last several hours. Hmm.
>>> 
>>> Eric
>>> too many bikes, not enough budget
>>> 
>>> 
 On Thu, Jul 14, 2022 at 7:49 PM Joe Bernard  wrote:
 Still greens left in every size, both colors left in 60cm, 4:48pm pst 
 7/14/22. AnaPurple is the popular one. 
 
> On Thursday, July 14, 2022 at 11:14:20 AM UTC-7 bmfo...@gmail.com wrote:
> I feel like a lot of recent riv designs not only would require a short 
> stem but also downsizing a frame size for a proper drop bar set up. Not 
> good or bad in my mind, just inherent in the long top tube designs they 
> have been favoring lately. I will likely end up buying a ROADUNO, and had 
> hoped to put drops on it but based off of what we know so far I'm not 
> sure I'll be able to without dropping down a size. I don't want to do so 
> from an aesthetic perspective, so risers or swept back bars it'll be!
> 
>> On Thursday, July 14, 2022 at 12:47:18 PM UTC-5 Doug H. wrote:
>> A Rosco Platy for Skye!!
>> Doug
>> 
>>> On Thu, Jul 14, 2022 at 1:44 PM Joe Bernard  wrote:
>>> Well that was fun. I like my version of the Rosco Platy Presale thread 
>>> better so I'm back over here to say I hope everybody grabs the frame 
>>> they want and shows them built up later so we can look at them. Have a 
>>> nice day! 🙋‍♂️🙂 
>>> Joe Bernard 
>>> 
> On Tuesday, July 12, 2022 at 2:51:56 PM UTC-7 Joe Bernard wrote:
> Here's the product page. My daughter saw the email before me and sent 
> a pic of the green one with this text: 
> "I don't even ride bikes and I love this."
> 
> https://www.rivbike.com/products/rosco-platypus-presale-eta-early-august
> 
> Joe and Skye Bernard 
 
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Re: [RBW] Re: Rosco Platy!

[Johnny Alien]

I dig them (because I also dig Joe's custom) and I was all on board with 
grabbing one when they were supposed to be out in May but with the delays I 
wanted something sooner and fell into a Clem L which I am over the moon 
about. I think they will sell a touch slower than other models because they 
are more utility in visual design and priced higher than expected. Not that 
its not a fair price but its certainly easier to sell a stripped down less 
fancy Platy for $900-1000 (the original expected price) than $1350. 
Congrats to everyone that got one. I was expecting to be on that train but 
alas I am not.

On Thursday, July 14, 2022 at 7:45:14 PM UTC-5 Joe Bernard wrote:

> I don't need another bike that's basically a production version of my 
> custom and don't really have room for it, so it's probably good that they 
> didn't do one in Mermaid. But there's a Mermaid demo there...
>
> On Thursday, July 14, 2022 at 5:37:53 PM UTC-7 Eric Daume wrote:
>
>> I've been eyeing the 60cm purple, down to seven left, but only one sold 
>> in the last several hours. Hmm.
>>
>> Eric
>> too many bikes, not enough budget
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Jul 14, 2022 at 7:49 PM Joe Bernard  wrote:
>>
>>> Still greens left in every size, both colors left in 60cm, 4:48pm pst 
>>> 7/14/22. AnaPurple is the popular one. 
>>>
>>> On Thursday, July 14, 2022 at 11:14:20 AM UTC-7 bmfo...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>
 I feel like a lot of recent riv designs not only would require a short 
 stem but also downsizing a frame size for a proper drop bar set up. Not 
 good or bad in my mind, just inherent in the long top tube designs they 
 have been favoring lately. I will likely end up buying a ROADUNO, and had 
 hoped to put drops on it but based off of what we know so far I'm not sure 
 I'll be able to without dropping down a size. I don't want to do so from 
 an 
 aesthetic perspective, so risers or swept back bars it'll be!

 On Thursday, July 14, 2022 at 12:47:18 PM UTC-5 Doug H. wrote:

> A Rosco Platy for Skye!!
> Doug
>
> On Thu, Jul 14, 2022 at 1:44 PM Joe Bernard  wrote:
>
>> Well that was fun. I like my version of the Rosco Platy Presale 
>> thread better so I'm back over here to say I hope everybody grabs the 
>> frame 
>> they want and shows them built up later so we can look at them. Have a 
>> nice 
>> day! 🙋‍♂️🙂 
>> Joe Bernard 
>>
>> On Tuesday, July 12, 2022 at 2:51:56 PM UTC-7 Joe Bernard wrote:
>>
>>> Here's the product page. My daughter saw the email before me and 
>>> sent a pic of the green one with this text: 
>>> "I don't even ride bikes and I love this."
>>>
>>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Rosco Platy!

[Joe Bernard]

I don't need another bike that's basically a production version of my 
custom and don't really have room for it, so it's probably good that they 
didn't do one in Mermaid. But there's a Mermaid demo there...

On Thursday, July 14, 2022 at 5:37:53 PM UTC-7 Eric Daume wrote:

> I've been eyeing the 60cm purple, down to seven left, but only one sold in 
> the last several hours. Hmm.
>
> Eric
> too many bikes, not enough budget
>
>
> On Thu, Jul 14, 2022 at 7:49 PM Joe Bernard  wrote:
>
>> Still greens left in every size, both colors left in 60cm, 4:48pm pst 
>> 7/14/22. AnaPurple is the popular one. 
>>
>> On Thursday, July 14, 2022 at 11:14:20 AM UTC-7 bmfo...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> I feel like a lot of recent riv designs not only would require a short 
>>> stem but also downsizing a frame size for a proper drop bar set up. Not 
>>> good or bad in my mind, just inherent in the long top tube designs they 
>>> have been favoring lately. I will likely end up buying a ROADUNO, and had 
>>> hoped to put drops on it but based off of what we know so far I'm not sure 
>>> I'll be able to without dropping down a size. I don't want to do so from an 
>>> aesthetic perspective, so risers or swept back bars it'll be!
>>>
>>> On Thursday, July 14, 2022 at 12:47:18 PM UTC-5 Doug H. wrote:
>>>
 A Rosco Platy for Skye!!
 Doug

 On Thu, Jul 14, 2022 at 1:44 PM Joe Bernard  wrote:

> Well that was fun. I like my version of the Rosco Platy Presale thread 
> better so I'm back over here to say I hope everybody grabs the frame they 
> want and shows them built up later so we can look at them. Have a nice 
> day! 
> 🙋‍♂️🙂 
> Joe Bernard 
>
> On Tuesday, July 12, 2022 at 2:51:56 PM UTC-7 Joe Bernard wrote:
>
>> Here's the product page. My daughter saw the email before me and sent 
>> a pic of the green one with this text: 
>> "I don't even ride bikes and I love this."
>>
>>
>> https://www.rivbike.com/products/rosco-platypus-presale-eta-early-august
>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Rosco Platy!

[Eric Daume]

I've been eyeing the 60cm purple, down to seven left, but only one sold in
the last several hours. Hmm.

Eric
too many bikes, not enough budget


On Thu, Jul 14, 2022 at 7:49 PM Joe Bernard  wrote:

> Still greens left in every size, both colors left in 60cm, 4:48pm pst
> 7/14/22. AnaPurple is the popular one.
>
> On Thursday, July 14, 2022 at 11:14:20 AM UTC-7 bmfo...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> I feel like a lot of recent riv designs not only would require a short
>> stem but also downsizing a frame size for a proper drop bar set up. Not
>> good or bad in my mind, just inherent in the long top tube designs they
>> have been favoring lately. I will likely end up buying a ROADUNO, and had
>> hoped to put drops on it but based off of what we know so far I'm not sure
>> I'll be able to without dropping down a size. I don't want to do so from an
>> aesthetic perspective, so risers or swept back bars it'll be!
>>
>> On Thursday, July 14, 2022 at 12:47:18 PM UTC-5 Doug H. wrote:
>>
>>> A Rosco Platy for Skye!!
>>> Doug
>>>
>>> On Thu, Jul 14, 2022 at 1:44 PM Joe Bernard  wrote:
>>>
 Well that was fun. I like my version of the Rosco Platy Presale thread
 better so I'm back over here to say I hope everybody grabs the frame they
 want and shows them built up later so we can look at them. Have a nice day!
 🙋‍♂️🙂
 Joe Bernard

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> Here's the product page. My daughter saw the email before me and sent
> a pic of the green one with this text:
> "I don't even ride bikes and I love this."
>
>
> https://www.rivbike.com/products/rosco-platypus-presale-eta-early-august
>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Rosco Platy!

[Joe Bernard]

Still greens left in every size, both colors left in 60cm, 4:48pm pst 
7/14/22. AnaPurple is the popular one. 

On Thursday, July 14, 2022 at 11:14:20 AM UTC-7 bmfo...@gmail.com wrote:

> I feel like a lot of recent riv designs not only would require a short 
> stem but also downsizing a frame size for a proper drop bar set up. Not 
> good or bad in my mind, just inherent in the long top tube designs they 
> have been favoring lately. I will likely end up buying a ROADUNO, and had 
> hoped to put drops on it but based off of what we know so far I'm not sure 
> I'll be able to without dropping down a size. I don't want to do so from an 
> aesthetic perspective, so risers or swept back bars it'll be!
>
> On Thursday, July 14, 2022 at 12:47:18 PM UTC-5 Doug H. wrote:
>
>> A Rosco Platy for Skye!!
>> Doug
>>
>> On Thu, Jul 14, 2022 at 1:44 PM Joe Bernard  wrote:
>>
>>> Well that was fun. I like my version of the Rosco Platy Presale thread 
>>> better so I'm back over here to say I hope everybody grabs the frame they 
>>> want and shows them built up later so we can look at them. Have a nice day! 
>>> 🙋‍♂️🙂 
>>> Joe Bernard 
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, July 12, 2022 at 2:51:56 PM UTC-7 Joe Bernard wrote:
>>>
 Here's the product page. My daughter saw the email before me and sent a 
 pic of the green one with this text: 
 "I don't even ride bikes and I love this."

 https://www.rivbike.com/products/rosco-platypus-presale-eta-early-august

 Joe and Skye Bernard 

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Re: [RBW] Re: Rosco Platy!

[Brian Forsee]

I feel like a lot of recent riv designs not only would require a short stem 
but also downsizing a frame size for a proper drop bar set up. Not good or 
bad in my mind, just inherent in the long top tube designs they have been 
favoring lately. I will likely end up buying a ROADUNO, and had hoped to 
put drops on it but based off of what we know so far I'm not sure I'll be 
able to without dropping down a size. I don't want to do so from an 
aesthetic perspective, so risers or swept back bars it'll be!

On Thursday, July 14, 2022 at 12:47:18 PM UTC-5 Doug H. wrote:

> A Rosco Platy for Skye!!
> Doug
>
> On Thu, Jul 14, 2022 at 1:44 PM Joe Bernard  wrote:
>
>> Well that was fun. I like my version of the Rosco Platy Presale thread 
>> better so I'm back over here to say I hope everybody grabs the frame they 
>> want and shows them built up later so we can look at them. Have a nice day! 
>> 🙋‍♂️🙂 
>> Joe Bernard 
>>
>> On Tuesday, July 12, 2022 at 2:51:56 PM UTC-7 Joe Bernard wrote:
>>
>>> Here's the product page. My daughter saw the email before me and sent a 
>>> pic of the green one with this text: 
>>> "I don't even ride bikes and I love this."
>>>
>>> https://www.rivbike.com/products/rosco-platypus-presale-eta-early-august
>>>
>>> Joe and Skye Bernard 
>>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Rosco Platy!

[Doug H.]

A Rosco Platy for Skye!!
Doug

On Thu, Jul 14, 2022 at 1:44 PM Joe Bernard  wrote:

> Well that was fun. I like my version of the Rosco Platy Presale thread
> better so I'm back over here to say I hope everybody grabs the frame they
> want and shows them built up later so we can look at them. Have a nice day!
> 🙋‍♂️🙂
> Joe Bernard
>
> On Tuesday, July 12, 2022 at 2:51:56 PM UTC-7 Joe Bernard wrote:
>
>> Here's the product page. My daughter saw the email before me and sent a
>> pic of the green one with this text:
>> "I don't even ride bikes and I love this."
>>
>> https://www.rivbike.com/products/rosco-platypus-presale-eta-early-august
>>
>> Joe and Skye Bernard
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[RBW] Re: Rosco Platy!

[Joe Bernard]

Well that was fun. I like my version of the Rosco Platy Presale thread 
better so I'm back over here to say I hope everybody grabs the frame they 
want and shows them built up later so we can look at them. Have a nice day! 
🙋‍♂️🙂 
Joe Bernard 

On Tuesday, July 12, 2022 at 2:51:56 PM UTC-7 Joe Bernard wrote:

> Here's the product page. My daughter saw the email before me and sent a 
> pic of the green one with this text: 
> "I don't even ride bikes and I love this."
>
> https://www.rivbike.com/products/rosco-platypus-presale-eta-early-august
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[RBW] Re: Rosco Platy!

[Johnny Alien]

With a short stem length almost any Riv can be set up with drop bars.

On Thursday, July 14, 2022 at 7:03:42 AM UTC-5 Matt Beecher wrote:

> I'd really like bike like this for a drop bar build, but I just could not 
> pull the trigger without knowing the top tube length.  My guess is that 
> this is designed for upright riding only, which seems to be the way Riv is 
> trending.  Good luck to all those who pick this up.  It looks like a nice 
> design.  
>
> Matt
>
> On Thursday, July 14, 2022 at 3:58:01 AM UTC-5 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
> wrote:
>
>> Good luck to all who will be vying for a Rosco Plat today! If you miss 
>> out, comfort yourselves with the arrival of the new Platypuses this fall. 
>> But I do hope you get the Rosco, if that's what your heart wants. Whichever 
>> you get, you won't be disappointed. There's magic in the Rivendell mixtes, 
>> and like Pam Murray once said to me, Every mile on a Rivendell mixte is a 
>> golden mile. After nearly 70,000 miles, she should know.
>>
>> Please let us know if and what you get today!
>>
>> Leah
>>
>> On Tuesday, July 12, 2022 at 6:13:58 PM UTC-4 Doug H. wrote:
>>
>>> I like both colors! Tough choice but since I have a Lime Green Clem I 
>>> would choose Anapurple...if I were to buy one
>>> Doug
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, July 12, 2022 at 5:51:56 PM UTC-4 Joe Bernard wrote:
>>>
 Here's the product page. My daughter saw the email before me and sent a 
 pic of the green one with this text: 
 "I don't even ride bikes and I love this."

 https://www.rivbike.com/products/rosco-platypus-presale-eta-early-august

 Joe and Skye Bernard 

>>>

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[RBW] Re: Rosco Platy!

[Matt Beecher]

I'd really like bike like this for a drop bar build, but I just could not 
pull the trigger without knowing the top tube length.  My guess is that 
this is designed for upright riding only, which seems to be the way Riv is 
trending.  Good luck to all those who pick this up.  It looks like a nice 
design.  

Matt

On Thursday, July 14, 2022 at 3:58:01 AM UTC-5 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
wrote:

> Good luck to all who will be vying for a Rosco Plat today! If you miss 
> out, comfort yourselves with the arrival of the new Platypuses this fall. 
> But I do hope you get the Rosco, if that's what your heart wants. Whichever 
> you get, you won't be disappointed. There's magic in the Rivendell mixtes, 
> and like Pam Murray once said to me, Every mile on a Rivendell mixte is a 
> golden mile. After nearly 70,000 miles, she should know.
>
> Please let us know if and what you get today!
>
> Leah
>
> On Tuesday, July 12, 2022 at 6:13:58 PM UTC-4 Doug H. wrote:
>
>> I like both colors! Tough choice but since I have a Lime Green Clem I 
>> would choose Anapurple...if I were to buy one
>> Doug
>>
>> On Tuesday, July 12, 2022 at 5:51:56 PM UTC-4 Joe Bernard wrote:
>>
>>> Here's the product page. My daughter saw the email before me and sent a 
>>> pic of the green one with this text: 
>>> "I don't even ride bikes and I love this."
>>>
>>> https://www.rivbike.com/products/rosco-platypus-presale-eta-early-august
>>>
>>> Joe and Skye Bernard 
>>>
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[RBW] Re: Rosco Platy!

[Bicycle Belle Ding Ding!]

Good luck to all who will be vying for a Rosco Plat today! If you miss out, 
comfort yourselves with the arrival of the new Platypuses this fall. But I 
do hope you get the Rosco, if that's what your heart wants. Whichever you 
get, you won't be disappointed. There's magic in the Rivendell mixtes, and 
like Pam Murray once said to me, Every mile on a Rivendell mixte is a 
golden mile. After nearly 70,000 miles, she should know.

Please let us know if and what you get today!

Leah

On Tuesday, July 12, 2022 at 6:13:58 PM UTC-4 Doug H. wrote:

> I like both colors! Tough choice but since I have a Lime Green Clem I 
> would choose Anapurple...if I were to buy one
> Doug
>
> On Tuesday, July 12, 2022 at 5:51:56 PM UTC-4 Joe Bernard wrote:
>
>> Here's the product page. My daughter saw the email before me and sent a 
>> pic of the green one with this text: 
>> "I don't even ride bikes and I love this."
>>
>> https://www.rivbike.com/products/rosco-platypus-presale-eta-early-august
>>
>> Joe and Skye Bernard 
>>
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[RBW] Re: Rosco Platy!

[Doug H.]

I like both colors! Tough choice but since I have a Lime Green Clem I would 
choose Anapurple...if I were to buy one
Doug

On Tuesday, July 12, 2022 at 5:51:56 PM UTC-4 Joe Bernard wrote:

> Here's the product page. My daughter saw the email before me and sent a 
> pic of the green one with this text: 
> "I don't even ride bikes and I love this."
>
> https://www.rivbike.com/products/rosco-platypus-presale-eta-early-august
>
> Joe and Skye Bernard 
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