[RBW] Re: Ruffy Tuffy tire problems
You didn't notice that problem w/ RPs though? I have some GBs coming... so guess I was tempted enough!!! On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 10:48 PM, Aaron Thomas aaron.a.tho...@gmail.comwrote: I have never tried taking them off-road. The casing seems very durable. But the tread did get a couple of cuts after not many miles of pavement riding, and that might be a cause for concern. They could probably handle some dirt paths, but probably no Rough Riders type stuff. On May 13, 10:02 pm, David Estes cyclotour...@gmail.com wrote: Interesting... do you think the Challenge can hold up to trail use? On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 9:24 PM, Aaron Thomas aaron.a.tho...@gmail.com wrote: Gino scared me away from the GB also. Instead, I gave the Challenge Parigi-Roubaix a try and liked them a lot. They have slightly more volume than the RT and RP, and so far have been puncture free. They ride a lot like the RP (i.e. no RT thud), although I've found their grip to be a little unsure in damp turns. No crashes yet, however. The one thing I don't particularly care for in the Parigi-Roubaix is the herringbone tread. It makes a lot of noise, and I suspect the herringbone pattern might account for some of the slippage I've felt in turns. If they came in a simple slick they'd be so much better! A On May 13, 9:14 pm, David Estes cyclotour...@gmail.com wrote: I don't recall reading about this w/ anyone else, so nice to see it's not just me (and my hot shed). Interesting that the JBs and RPs don't do this... I wonder about the Maxy Fasty are like. I really want to put some JBs on there, but clearance is REALLY tight for that under the rear brake arch. Tempted to try out some Grand Bois tires, but Gino's scared me away from them!!! ;-) I'll keep em' going for a while longer, but yeah, it's pretty nervous to see a crack in your tire! On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 9:08 PM, Aaron Thomas aaron.a.tho...@gmail.com wrote: Yup. Same thing happened to my Ruffy Tuffies. I sent photos to RBW and they said it was fairly common with RTs, but nothing to worry about unless it looked like the casing was splitting as well. I retired them soon thereafter, simply for peace of mind, even though they appeared to have tons of tread left. I switched to the Roll-y Pol-y and like them much better. And so far neither they nor the Jack Brown greens have split like the RTs did. Maybe it has to do with the thicker tread on the RTs compared to the thinner tread on the RP and JB green. If you haven't yet tried the RPs you ought to. In my experience they ride way better than the RTs -- they don't have that thuddy feel that the RTs do. Aaron On May 13, 8:51 pm, David Estes cyclotour...@gmail.com wrote: I've consistently had problems with Ruffy Tuffies over the years. Yet another pair is starting to separate along the tread: http://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclotourist/3529285691/ That said (and seen), I store my bikes in a hot shed. It's exposed to the southern sun and gets HOT in there (There is no electricty, so there isn't ozone from a motor in there). Also, these aren't brand new tires, but are several years old. Most I bought used. Buut, I have three sets of Paselas, one set of Col de la Vies, and one set of generic 650A tires in the same shed along w/ the kid's BMX bikes. NO PROBLEMS with any of those tires, and they are significantly older (one set of Paselas is probably close to 10 years). Has anyone else had this problem? The cracking/separation is very consistent, right along the line separating the different squares on the surface pattern. Sidewalls are fine. Low miles on 'em, you can still see the cross-file tread in the squares. Note: this isn't bagging on Rivendell/Grant/Panaracer/Lance Armstrong, just simply starting a discussion about what I've noticed. Am I doing something wrong in storing them, and if so, why isn't it a problem w/ other tires? This hasn't stopped me from buying Ruffy Tuffies, but I'm sure not getting my $$$ out of them. -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en
[RBW] Re: Ruffy Tuffy tire problems
I've got four or five years experience with RTs and have never seen a hint of this. My bikes are stored inside (my house) and the tires were purchased new. The photo shows a tire looking really dried out, I wonder what sort of treatment the previous owner gave them? I've also got two sets of Jack Browns in green with no hint of separation. And a set of Maxy Fasties. I wouldn't ride on a tire that looks like that either. I wonder if a solvent of some sort would do that? The GB's are nice tires, use some sort of flat protection though. I use Flat Aways from Panaracer. And I wouldn't ride them in situations such as is shown in your any bike, anywhere photo. Phil B Sonoma County --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Ruffy Tuffy tire problems
On May 14, 1:02 am, David Estes cyclotour...@gmail.com wrote: Interesting... do you think the Challenge can hold up to trail use? i've riding the challenge PR tire on dirt pretty frequently lately and have had no issues. while i really like that tire (and it seems be quite durable), I still prefer GB tires (i ride the 650b 32 and 42s) on dirt/gravel/etc - the challenge tires seem harsh in comparison, but they do roll very nicely on the road and provide a bit of extra comfort over cracked pavement. to me, it's a true road tire - just a bit wider. FWIW - I've only had one flat between the GB cypres and hetres over many, many miles. don't be scared - they're fantastic tires. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Ruffy Tuffy tire problems
Hi Phil, thanks for the input. I don't know if you're lucky or I'm unlucky! My problems have been over several tires, over several years. This happened as well on a set that I bought from Rivendell originally (but wasn't obsessively putting photos of everything on flickr at that point). thanks for the head up on the flat protection, I'll check that out! Ritchey used to have a Tom Slick model that measured an actual 30mm, but they don't carry it any more. That would have been a cool option for me. Thanks! David On Thu, May 14, 2009 at 6:16 AM, Phil B phi...@sonic.net wrote: I've got four or five years experience with RTs and have never seen a hint of this. My bikes are stored inside (my house) and the tires were purchased new. The photo shows a tire looking really dried out, I wonder what sort of treatment the previous owner gave them? I've also got two sets of Jack Browns in green with no hint of separation. And a set of Maxy Fasties. I wouldn't ride on a tire that looks like that either. I wonder if a solvent of some sort would do that? The GB's are nice tires, use some sort of flat protection though. I use Flat Aways from Panaracer. And I wouldn't ride them in situations such as is shown in your any bike, anywhere photo. Phil B Sonoma County -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Ruffy Tuffy tire problems
On May 14, 2009, at 12:48 AM, Aaron Thomas wrote: I have never tried taking them off-road. The casing seems very durable. But the tread did get a couple of cuts after not many miles of pavement riding, and that might be a cause for concern. All bike tires get some cuts after not many miles. It's just more noticeable with slicks and tires with a fine tread pattern. Coarse tread hides the cuts from notice. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Ruffy Tuffy tire problems
On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 10:51 PM, David Estes cyclotour...@gmail.com wrote: I've consistently had problems with Ruffy Tuffies over the years. Yet another pair is starting to separate along the tread: http://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclotourist/3529285691/ I don't have any RTs that are as old as yours (5 years at most), but none of them are as dry and cracked-looking as the one in your photos. The major split and separation aside, the rubber looks dry to me. I wonder if the heat of the shed is aging the rubber faster or something. -- Bill Connell St. Paul, MN --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Ruffy Tuffy tire problems
HI all, this is my first post to this group. About Grand Boise Tires. Got the GB 32 650 B for my Bleriot absolutely love they way they feel ride. So I thought it would be reasonable to get the GB 30's for my Rambouilett. Awful. They don't ride or feel the same. It amazes me that the same product in a slightly different size has such a radical difference. Btw, I also have a pair of ruffy tuffies with less than 100 miles if anyone's interested...I used to like them, now I don't. I guess tastes can change over time. Cheers, Chris On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 9:14 PM, David Estes cyclotour...@gmail.com wrote: I don't recall reading about this w/ anyone else, so nice to see it's not just me (and my hot shed). Interesting that the JBs and RPs don't do this... I wonder about the Maxy Fasty are like. I really want to put some JBs on there, but clearance is REALLY tight for that under the rear brake arch. Tempted to try out some Grand Bois tires, but Gino's scared me away from them!!! ;-) I'll keep em' going for a while longer, but yeah, it's pretty nervous to see a crack in your tire! On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 9:08 PM, Aaron Thomas aaron.a.tho...@gmail.com wrote: Yup. Same thing happened to my Ruffy Tuffies. I sent photos to RBW and they said it was fairly common with RTs, but nothing to worry about unless it looked like the casing was splitting as well. I retired them soon thereafter, simply for peace of mind, even though they appeared to have tons of tread left. I switched to the Roll-y Pol-y and like them much better. And so far neither they nor the Jack Brown greens have split like the RTs did. Maybe it has to do with the thicker tread on the RTs compared to the thinner tread on the RP and JB green. If you haven't yet tried the RPs you ought to. In my experience they ride way better than the RTs -- they don't have that thuddy feel that the RTs do. Aaron On May 13, 8:51 pm, David Estes cyclotour...@gmail.com wrote: I've consistently had problems with Ruffy Tuffies over the years. Yet another pair is starting to separate along the tread: http://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclotourist/3529285691/ That said (and seen), I store my bikes in a hot shed. It's exposed to the southern sun and gets HOT in there (There is no electricty, so there isn't ozone from a motor in there). Also, these aren't brand new tires, but are several years old. Most I bought used. Buut, I have three sets of Paselas, one set of Col de la Vies, and one set of generic 650A tires in the same shed along w/ the kid's BMX bikes. NO PROBLEMS with any of those tires, and they are significantly older (one set of Paselas is probably close to 10 years). Has anyone else had this problem? The cracking/separation is very consistent, right along the line separating the different squares on the surface pattern. Sidewalls are fine. Low miles on 'em, you can still see the cross-file tread in the squares. Note: this isn't bagging on Rivendell/Grant/Panaracer/Lance Armstrong, just simply starting a discussion about what I've noticed. Am I doing something wrong in storing them, and if so, why isn't it a problem w/ other tires? This hasn't stopped me from buying Ruffy Tuffies, but I'm sure not getting my $$$ out of them. -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Ruffy Tuffy tire problems
On Thu, May 14, 2009 at 4:05 AM, Christopher Paul zdree...@gmail.com wrote: HI all, this is my first post to this group. About Grand Boise Tires. Got the GB 32 650 B for my Bleriot absolutely love they way they feel ride. So I thought it would be reasonable to get the GB 30's for my Rambouilett. Awful. They don't ride or feel the same. It amazes me that the same product in a slightly different size has such a radical difference. Btw, I also have a pair of ruffy tuffies with less than 100 miles if anyone's interested...I used to like them, now I don't. I guess tastes can change over time. In what way are the 700x30 GB awful? They're my favorite tire of all time despite their limited treadwear. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Ruffy Tuffy tire problems
Quoting JimD rasterd...@comcast.net: In regards to Grand Bois 700c's My Mileage Has Varied (MMHV). I've given GB's several tries but don't find the ride with them significantly better than what I get with the Jack Brown Greens. I've found the GB's to be a bit fragile and get ~1000 miles (or less) on the rear using them.The JB's have been far more durable and give me more like 2500 miles on the the rear I replaced one Grand Bois 700x30 back tire at around 1800-1900 miles, when I got two flats in less than 40 miles and felt how thin the center tread area had gotten. At that mileage, the front still looked unworn. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Ruffy Tuffy tire problems
On May 14, 2009, at 9:25 AM, Bill Connell wrote: On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 10:51 PM, David Estes cyclotour...@gmail.com wrote: I've consistently had problems with Ruffy Tuffies over the years. Yet another pair is starting to separate along the tread: http://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclotourist/3529285691/ I don't have any RTs that are as old as yours (5 years at most), but none of them are as dry and cracked-looking as the one in your photos. The major split and separation aside, the rubber looks dry to me. I wonder if the heat of the shed is aging the rubber faster or something. Heat speeds up all chemical reactions, so that would make sense. And if there is an ozone source in the shed (e.g., an electric motor like in a refrigerator) this will deteriorate rubber very quickly. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Ruffy Tuffy tire problems
I'm over 1,000 miles on my GB Cypres. No flats, etc. Still love em. From: GeorgeS chobur...@gmail.com To: RBW Owners Bunch rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, May 14, 2009 6:12:38 PM Subject: [RBW] Re: Ruffy Tuffy tire problems I just put a pair of Grand Bois on my Rambouillet. So far so good. They have a springier feel than the Ruffy Tuffys. But now you've got me worried. Who is Gino and what terrible things has he said about these expensive tires? GeorgeS --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Ruffy Tuffy tire problems
He owns the internets!http://www.google.com/search?hl=enclient=firefox-arls=org.mozilla%3Aen-US%3Aofficialhs=hDpq=gino+%22big+wood%22btnG=Search On Thu, May 14, 2009 at 4:12 PM, GeorgeS chobur...@gmail.com wrote: I just put a pair of Grand Bois on my Rambouillet. So far so good. They have a springier feel than the Ruffy Tuffys. But now you've got me worried. Who is Gino and what terrible things has he said about these expensive tires? GeorgeS On May 13, 11:14 pm, David Estes cyclotour...@gmail.com wrote: I don't recall reading about this w/ anyone else, so nice to see it's not just me (and my hot shed). Interesting that the JBs and RPs don't do this... I wonder about the Maxy Fasty are like. I really want to put some JBs on there, but clearance is REALLY tight for that under the rear brake arch. Tempted to try out some Grand Bois tires, but Gino's scared me away from them!!! ;-) I'll keep em' going for a while longer, but yeah, it's pretty nervous to see a crack in your tire! On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 9:08 PM, Aaron Thomas aaron.a.tho...@gmail.com wrote: Yup. Same thing happened to my Ruffy Tuffies. I sent photos to RBW and they said it was fairly common with RTs, but nothing to worry about unless it looked like the casing was splitting as well. I retired them soon thereafter, simply for peace of mind, even though they appeared to have tons of tread left. I switched to the Roll-y Pol-y and like them much better. And so far neither they nor the Jack Brown greens have split like the RTs did. Maybe it has to do with the thicker tread on the RTs compared to the thinner tread on the RP and JB green. If you haven't yet tried the RPs you ought to. In my experience they ride way better than the RTs -- they don't have that thuddy feel that the RTs do. Aaron On May 13, 8:51 pm, David Estes cyclotour...@gmail.com wrote: I've consistently had problems with Ruffy Tuffies over the years. Yet another pair is starting to separate along the tread: http://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclotourist/3529285691/ That said (and seen), I store my bikes in a hot shed. It's exposed to the southern sun and gets HOT in there (There is no electricty, so there isn't ozone from a motor in there). Also, these aren't brand new tires, but are several years old. Most I bought used. Buut, I have three sets of Paselas, one set of Col de la Vies, and one set of generic 650A tires in the same shed along w/ the kid's BMX bikes. NO PROBLEMS with any of those tires, and they are significantly older (one set of Paselas is probably close to 10 years). Has anyone else had this problem? The cracking/separation is very consistent, right along the line separating the different squares on the surface pattern. Sidewalls are fine. Low miles on 'em, you can still see the cross-file tread in the squares. Note: this isn't bagging on Rivendell/Grant/Panaracer/Lance Armstrong, just simply starting a discussion about what I've noticed. Am I doing something wrong in storing them, and if so, why isn't it a problem w/ other tires? This hasn't stopped me from buying Ruffy Tuffies, but I'm sure not getting my $$$ out of them. -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Ruffy Tuffy tire problems
Yup. Same thing happened to my Ruffy Tuffies. I sent photos to RBW and they said it was fairly common with RTs, but nothing to worry about unless it looked like the casing was splitting as well. I retired them soon thereafter, simply for peace of mind, even though they appeared to have tons of tread left. I switched to the Roll-y Pol-y and like them much better. And so far neither they nor the Jack Brown greens have split like the RTs did. Maybe it has to do with the thicker tread on the RTs compared to the thinner tread on the RP and JB green. If you haven't yet tried the RPs you ought to. In my experience they ride way better than the RTs -- they don't have that thuddy feel that the RTs do. Aaron On May 13, 8:51 pm, David Estes cyclotour...@gmail.com wrote: I've consistently had problems with Ruffy Tuffies over the years. Yet another pair is starting to separate along the tread: http://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclotourist/3529285691/ That said (and seen), I store my bikes in a hot shed. It's exposed to the southern sun and gets HOT in there (There is no electricty, so there isn't ozone from a motor in there). Also, these aren't brand new tires, but are several years old. Most I bought used. Buut, I have three sets of Paselas, one set of Col de la Vies, and one set of generic 650A tires in the same shed along w/ the kid's BMX bikes. NO PROBLEMS with any of those tires, and they are significantly older (one set of Paselas is probably close to 10 years). Has anyone else had this problem? The cracking/separation is very consistent, right along the line separating the different squares on the surface pattern. Sidewalls are fine. Low miles on 'em, you can still see the cross-file tread in the squares. Note: this isn't bagging on Rivendell/Grant/Panaracer/Lance Armstrong, just simply starting a discussion about what I've noticed. Am I doing something wrong in storing them, and if so, why isn't it a problem w/ other tires? This hasn't stopped me from buying Ruffy Tuffies, but I'm sure not getting my $$$ out of them. -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Ruffy Tuffy tire problems
I don't recall reading about this w/ anyone else, so nice to see it's not just me (and my hot shed). Interesting that the JBs and RPs don't do this... I wonder about the Maxy Fasty are like. I really want to put some JBs on there, but clearance is REALLY tight for that under the rear brake arch. Tempted to try out some Grand Bois tires, but Gino's scared me away from them!!! ;-) I'll keep em' going for a while longer, but yeah, it's pretty nervous to see a crack in your tire! On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 9:08 PM, Aaron Thomas aaron.a.tho...@gmail.comwrote: Yup. Same thing happened to my Ruffy Tuffies. I sent photos to RBW and they said it was fairly common with RTs, but nothing to worry about unless it looked like the casing was splitting as well. I retired them soon thereafter, simply for peace of mind, even though they appeared to have tons of tread left. I switched to the Roll-y Pol-y and like them much better. And so far neither they nor the Jack Brown greens have split like the RTs did. Maybe it has to do with the thicker tread on the RTs compared to the thinner tread on the RP and JB green. If you haven't yet tried the RPs you ought to. In my experience they ride way better than the RTs -- they don't have that thuddy feel that the RTs do. Aaron On May 13, 8:51 pm, David Estes cyclotour...@gmail.com wrote: I've consistently had problems with Ruffy Tuffies over the years. Yet another pair is starting to separate along the tread: http://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclotourist/3529285691/ That said (and seen), I store my bikes in a hot shed. It's exposed to the southern sun and gets HOT in there (There is no electricty, so there isn't ozone from a motor in there). Also, these aren't brand new tires, but are several years old. Most I bought used. Buut, I have three sets of Paselas, one set of Col de la Vies, and one set of generic 650A tires in the same shed along w/ the kid's BMX bikes. NO PROBLEMS with any of those tires, and they are significantly older (one set of Paselas is probably close to 10 years). Has anyone else had this problem? The cracking/separation is very consistent, right along the line separating the different squares on the surface pattern. Sidewalls are fine. Low miles on 'em, you can still see the cross-file tread in the squares. Note: this isn't bagging on Rivendell/Grant/Panaracer/Lance Armstrong, just simply starting a discussion about what I've noticed. Am I doing something wrong in storing them, and if so, why isn't it a problem w/ other tires? This hasn't stopped me from buying Ruffy Tuffies, but I'm sure not getting my $$$ out of them. -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Ruffy Tuffy tire problems
Gino scared me away from the GB also. Instead, I gave the Challenge Parigi-Roubaix a try and liked them a lot. They have slightly more volume than the RT and RP, and so far have been puncture free. They ride a lot like the RP (i.e. no RT thud), although I've found their grip to be a little unsure in damp turns. No crashes yet, however. The one thing I don't particularly care for in the Parigi-Roubaix is the herringbone tread. It makes a lot of noise, and I suspect the herringbone pattern might account for some of the slippage I've felt in turns. If they came in a simple slick they'd be so much better! A On May 13, 9:14 pm, David Estes cyclotour...@gmail.com wrote: I don't recall reading about this w/ anyone else, so nice to see it's not just me (and my hot shed). Interesting that the JBs and RPs don't do this... I wonder about the Maxy Fasty are like. I really want to put some JBs on there, but clearance is REALLY tight for that under the rear brake arch. Tempted to try out some Grand Bois tires, but Gino's scared me away from them!!! ;-) I'll keep em' going for a while longer, but yeah, it's pretty nervous to see a crack in your tire! On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 9:08 PM, Aaron Thomas aaron.a.tho...@gmail.comwrote: Yup. Same thing happened to my Ruffy Tuffies. I sent photos to RBW and they said it was fairly common with RTs, but nothing to worry about unless it looked like the casing was splitting as well. I retired them soon thereafter, simply for peace of mind, even though they appeared to have tons of tread left. I switched to the Roll-y Pol-y and like them much better. And so far neither they nor the Jack Brown greens have split like the RTs did. Maybe it has to do with the thicker tread on the RTs compared to the thinner tread on the RP and JB green. If you haven't yet tried the RPs you ought to. In my experience they ride way better than the RTs -- they don't have that thuddy feel that the RTs do. Aaron On May 13, 8:51 pm, David Estes cyclotour...@gmail.com wrote: I've consistently had problems with Ruffy Tuffies over the years. Yet another pair is starting to separate along the tread: http://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclotourist/3529285691/ That said (and seen), I store my bikes in a hot shed. It's exposed to the southern sun and gets HOT in there (There is no electricty, so there isn't ozone from a motor in there). Also, these aren't brand new tires, but are several years old. Most I bought used. Buut, I have three sets of Paselas, one set of Col de la Vies, and one set of generic 650A tires in the same shed along w/ the kid's BMX bikes. NO PROBLEMS with any of those tires, and they are significantly older (one set of Paselas is probably close to 10 years). Has anyone else had this problem? The cracking/separation is very consistent, right along the line separating the different squares on the surface pattern. Sidewalls are fine. Low miles on 'em, you can still see the cross-file tread in the squares. Note: this isn't bagging on Rivendell/Grant/Panaracer/Lance Armstrong, just simply starting a discussion about what I've noticed. Am I doing something wrong in storing them, and if so, why isn't it a problem w/ other tires? This hasn't stopped me from buying Ruffy Tuffies, but I'm sure not getting my $$$ out of them. -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Ruffy Tuffy tire problems
I have never tried taking them off-road. The casing seems very durable. But the tread did get a couple of cuts after not many miles of pavement riding, and that might be a cause for concern. They could probably handle some dirt paths, but probably no Rough Riders type stuff. On May 13, 10:02 pm, David Estes cyclotour...@gmail.com wrote: Interesting... do you think the Challenge can hold up to trail use? On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 9:24 PM, Aaron Thomas aaron.a.tho...@gmail.comwrote: Gino scared me away from the GB also. Instead, I gave the Challenge Parigi-Roubaix a try and liked them a lot. They have slightly more volume than the RT and RP, and so far have been puncture free. They ride a lot like the RP (i.e. no RT thud), although I've found their grip to be a little unsure in damp turns. No crashes yet, however. The one thing I don't particularly care for in the Parigi-Roubaix is the herringbone tread. It makes a lot of noise, and I suspect the herringbone pattern might account for some of the slippage I've felt in turns. If they came in a simple slick they'd be so much better! A On May 13, 9:14 pm, David Estes cyclotour...@gmail.com wrote: I don't recall reading about this w/ anyone else, so nice to see it's not just me (and my hot shed). Interesting that the JBs and RPs don't do this... I wonder about the Maxy Fasty are like. I really want to put some JBs on there, but clearance is REALLY tight for that under the rear brake arch. Tempted to try out some Grand Bois tires, but Gino's scared me away from them!!! ;-) I'll keep em' going for a while longer, but yeah, it's pretty nervous to see a crack in your tire! On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 9:08 PM, Aaron Thomas aaron.a.tho...@gmail.com wrote: Yup. Same thing happened to my Ruffy Tuffies. I sent photos to RBW and they said it was fairly common with RTs, but nothing to worry about unless it looked like the casing was splitting as well. I retired them soon thereafter, simply for peace of mind, even though they appeared to have tons of tread left. I switched to the Roll-y Pol-y and like them much better. And so far neither they nor the Jack Brown greens have split like the RTs did. Maybe it has to do with the thicker tread on the RTs compared to the thinner tread on the RP and JB green. If you haven't yet tried the RPs you ought to. In my experience they ride way better than the RTs -- they don't have that thuddy feel that the RTs do. Aaron On May 13, 8:51 pm, David Estes cyclotour...@gmail.com wrote: I've consistently had problems with Ruffy Tuffies over the years. Yet another pair is starting to separate along the tread: http://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclotourist/3529285691/ That said (and seen), I store my bikes in a hot shed. It's exposed to the southern sun and gets HOT in there (There is no electricty, so there isn't ozone from a motor in there). Also, these aren't brand new tires, but are several years old. Most I bought used. Buut, I have three sets of Paselas, one set of Col de la Vies, and one set of generic 650A tires in the same shed along w/ the kid's BMX bikes. NO PROBLEMS with any of those tires, and they are significantly older (one set of Paselas is probably close to 10 years). Has anyone else had this problem? The cracking/separation is very consistent, right along the line separating the different squares on the surface pattern. Sidewalls are fine. Low miles on 'em, you can still see the cross-file tread in the squares. Note: this isn't bagging on Rivendell/Grant/Panaracer/Lance Armstrong, just simply starting a discussion about what I've noticed. Am I doing something wrong in storing them, and if so, why isn't it a problem w/ other tires? This hasn't stopped me from buying Ruffy Tuffies, but I'm sure not getting my $$$ out of them. -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
