[RBW] Re: Saddlebags and smaller bikes

2012-06-11 Thread Ginz
I'm on 48cm-ish frames.  I ran the Barley for a while and gave up on it.  
Too much droop and too inconvenient.  The Super C version might have made 
me a little happier.  I've switched to an Ostrich handbar bag with decaleur 
and mini-front rank.  More convenient and it works well.  
 
 

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[RBW] Re: Saddlebags and smaller bikes

2012-06-10 Thread Lynne Fitz
The set screws are Torx 6.  I learned that today.  My dad drilled them
out and retapped the holes.  Nothing moves on that rack now.  Doesn't
look as pretty, but I really don't care.  I think that is called
beausage.

On Jun 8, 7:09 pm, Lynne Fitz fitzb...@comcast.net wrote:
 right now I can't get the set screw out...  I've done myself in good
 here.

 On Jun 7, 5:09 pm, Mark Chandler gravelb...@hotmail.com wrote:







   Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2012 17:03:12 -0700
   Subject: [RBW] Re: Saddlebags and smaller bikes
   From: fitzb...@comcast.net
   To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com

   Itty bitty bike and a Carradice Barley.  I use the Carradice Bagman.
   But I'm crabby at it now, the rack part won't stay in the clamp.

  Remove the tiny set screws, and remove the rack/support from the clamp.  
  Check the rack/support to make sure there are no bad gouges, cracks, etc, 
  where the set screws make contact.  Replace the set screws with regular 
  allen-style bolts (example: bottle cage/rack boss bolts).  When you're sure 
  that the rack/support is fully seated in the clamp, remove the bolts, and 
  apply some blue/242 Loctite to the bolts' threads, and snug them down good. 
   Let the Loctite cure for 12-24 hours (with no load on the rack/support), 
  and you should be good.

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RE: [RBW] Re: Saddlebags and smaller bikes

2012-06-08 Thread Mark Chandler



 Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2012 17:03:12 -0700
 Subject: [RBW] Re: Saddlebags and smaller bikes
 From: fitzb...@comcast.net
 To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com
 
 Itty bitty bike and a Carradice Barley.  I use the Carradice Bagman.
 But I'm crabby at it now, the rack part won't stay in the clamp.
Remove the tiny set screws, and remove the rack/support from the clamp.  Check 
the rack/support to make sure there are no bad gouges, cracks, etc, where the 
set screws make contact.  Replace the set screws with regular allen-style bolts 
(example: bottle cage/rack boss bolts).  When you're sure that the rack/support 
is fully seated in the clamp, remove the bolts, and apply some blue/242 Loctite 
to the bolts' threads, and snug them down good.  Let the Loctite cure for 12-24 
hours (with no load on the rack/support), and you should be good.
  

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[RBW] Re: Saddlebags and smaller bikes

2012-06-08 Thread Lynne Fitz
right now I can't get the set screw out...  I've done myself in good
here.

On Jun 7, 5:09 pm, Mark Chandler gravelb...@hotmail.com wrote:
  Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2012 17:03:12 -0700
  Subject: [RBW] Re: Saddlebags and smaller bikes
  From: fitzb...@comcast.net
  To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com

  Itty bitty bike and a Carradice Barley.  I use the Carradice Bagman.
  But I'm crabby at it now, the rack part won't stay in the clamp.

 Remove the tiny set screws, and remove the rack/support from the clamp.  
 Check the rack/support to make sure there are no bad gouges, cracks, etc, 
 where the set screws make contact.  Replace the set screws with regular 
 allen-style bolts (example: bottle cage/rack boss bolts).  When you're sure 
 that the rack/support is fully seated in the clamp, remove the bolts, and 
 apply some blue/242 Loctite to the bolts' threads, and snug them down good.  
 Let the Loctite cure for 12-24 hours (with no load on the rack/support), and 
 you should be good.

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[RBW] Re: Saddlebags and smaller bikes

2012-06-07 Thread johnb
sorry I have a small saddle sack and it still rubs.

On Thursday, June 7, 2012 1:26:55 PM UTC-4, johnb wrote:

 I am challenged by short legs. I have a 52cm Atlantis with 26 wheels with 
 a medium saddlesack and SKS fenders. Because the bike frame is small and 
 the saddle sack is medium, the bag rubs back and forth throughout the ride 
 against the fender. When I put a rear rack on, it silences the bag but also 
 cuts 30% of its capacity out since it gets a bit smushed... For the moment, 
 I am tolerating the back and forth but there are days it bugs the — well 
 lets just say it gets on my nerves.

 So my question, are there good canvas saddlebags that hold tools, tube, 
 sunscreen and assorted sundries that will fit in my frame?


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[RBW] Re: Saddlebags and smaller bikes

2012-06-07 Thread Scot Brooks
What about incorporating the Nitto Saddlebag Grip to move it back a bit? Might 
get some more breathing room with your SS Medium. 

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[RBW] Re: Saddlebags and smaller bikes

2012-06-07 Thread Duplomacette
I'm having the same problem with my medium on my 54 cross check.
Pretty annoying. Nobody likes spending MORE money just to make the
thing they just spent money on work.

On Jun 7, 12:26 pm, johnb jbust...@gmail.com wrote:
 I am challenged by short legs. I have a 52cm Atlantis with 26 wheels with
 a medium saddlesack and SKS fenders. Because the bike frame is small and
 the saddle sack is medium, the bag rubs back and forth throughout the ride
 against the fender. When I put a rear rack on, it silences the bag but also
 cuts 30% of its capacity out since it gets a bit smushed... For the moment,
 I am tolerating the back and forth but there are days it bugs the — well
 lets just say it gets on my nerves.

 So my question, are there good canvas saddlebags that hold tools, tube,
 sunscreen and assorted sundries that will fit in my frame?

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[RBW] Re: Saddlebags and smaller bikes

2012-06-07 Thread Lynne Fitz
Itty bitty bike and a Carradice Barley.  I use the Carradice Bagman.
But I'm crabby at it now, the rack part won't stay in the clamp.

Lynne F

On Jun 7, 11:30 am, Duplomacette jjrhildr...@gmail.com wrote:
 I'm having the same problem with my medium on my 54 cross check.
 Pretty annoying. Nobody likes spending MORE money just to make the
 thing they just spent money on work.

 On Jun 7, 12:26 pm, johnb jbust...@gmail.com wrote:







  I am challenged by short legs. I have a 52cm Atlantis with 26 wheels with
  a medium saddlesack and SKS fenders. Because the bike frame is small and
  the saddle sack is medium, the bag rubs back and forth throughout the ride
  against the fender. When I put a rear rack on, it silences the bag but also
  cuts 30% of its capacity out since it gets a bit smushed... For the moment,
  I am tolerating the back and forth but there are days it bugs the — well
  lets just say it gets on my nerves.

  So my question, are there good canvas saddlebags that hold tools, tube,
  sunscreen and assorted sundries that will fit in my frame?

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Re: [RBW] Re: Saddlebags and smaller bikes

2012-06-07 Thread Bertin753
I had this problem. I removed the platform and filed slots into the ends for 
the set screws, then used loctite on the screws.

Patrick Moore
iPhone

On Jun 7, 2012, at 6:03 PM, Lynne Fitz fitzb...@comcast.net wrote:

 Itty bitty bike and a Carradice Barley.  I use the Carradice Bagman.
 But I'm crabby at it now, the rack part won't stay in the clamp.
 
 Lynne F
 
 On Jun 7, 11:30 am, Duplomacette jjrhildr...@gmail.com wrote:
 I'm having the same problem with my medium on my 54 cross check.
 Pretty annoying. Nobody likes spending MORE money just to make the
 thing they just spent money on work.
 
 On Jun 7, 12:26 pm, johnb jbust...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 I am challenged by short legs. I have a 52cm Atlantis with 26 wheels with
 a medium saddlesack and SKS fenders. Because the bike frame is small and
 the saddle sack is medium, the bag rubs back and forth throughout the ride
 against the fender. When I put a rear rack on, it silences the bag but also
 cuts 30% of its capacity out since it gets a bit smushed... For the moment,
 I am tolerating the back and forth but there are days it bugs the — well
 lets just say it gets on my nerves.
 
 So my question, are there good canvas saddlebags that hold tools, tube,
 sunscreen and assorted sundries that will fit in my frame?
 
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Re: [RBW] Re: Saddlebags and smaller bikes

2012-06-07 Thread Allingham II, Thomas J
See earlier in this thread ( or maybe even an earlier thread).  I had the same 
problem, and Loctite didn't solve it. But someone (don't remember who) said you 
just need to grind a little slot in the Bagman tubing, and it holds perfectly. 

Sent from my iPhone

On Jun 7, 2012, at 8:19 PM, Bertin753 bertin...@gmail.com wrote:

 I had this problem. I removed the platform and filed slots into the ends for 
 the set screws, then used loctite on the screws.
 
 Patrick Moore
 iPhone
 
 On Jun 7, 2012, at 6:03 PM, Lynne Fitz fitzb...@comcast.net wrote:
 
 Itty bitty bike and a Carradice Barley.  I use the Carradice Bagman.
 But I'm crabby at it now, the rack part won't stay in the clamp.
 
 Lynne F
 
 On Jun 7, 11:30 am, Duplomacette jjrhildr...@gmail.com wrote:
 I'm having the same problem with my medium on my 54 cross check.
 Pretty annoying. Nobody likes spending MORE money just to make the
 thing they just spent money on work.
 
 On Jun 7, 12:26 pm, johnb jbust...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 I am challenged by short legs. I have a 52cm Atlantis with 26 wheels with
 a medium saddlesack and SKS fenders. Because the bike frame is small and
 the saddle sack is medium, the bag rubs back and forth throughout the ride
 against the fender. When I put a rear rack on, it silences the bag but also
 cuts 30% of its capacity out since it gets a bit smushed... For the moment,
 I am tolerating the back and forth but there are days it bugs the — well
 lets just say it gets on my nerves.
 
 So my question, are there good canvas saddlebags that hold tools, tube,
 sunscreen and assorted sundries that will fit in my frame?
 
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Re: [RBW] Re: Saddlebags and smaller bikes

2012-06-07 Thread Bertin753


Patrick Moore
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On Jun 7, 2012, at 6:24 PM, Allingham II, Thomas J 
thomas.alling...@skadden.com wrote:

 See earlier in this thread ( or maybe even an earlier thread).  I had the 
 same problem, and Loctite didn't solve it. But someone (don't remember who) 
 said you just need to grind a little slot in the Bagman tubing, and it holds 
 perfectly.

That was I -- see below.
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Jun 7, 2012, at 8:19 PM, Bertin753 bertin...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I had this problem. I removed the platform and filed slots into the ends for 
 the set screws, then used loctite on the screws.
 
 Patrick Moore
 iPhone
 
 On Jun 7, 2012, at 6:03 PM, Lynne Fitz fitzb...@comcast.net wrote:
 
 Itty bitty bike and a Carradice Barley.  I use the Carradice Bagman.
 But I'm crabby at it now, the rack part won't stay in the clamp.
 
 Lynne F
 
 On Jun 7, 11:30 am, Duplomacette jjrhildr...@gmail.com wrote:
 I'm having the same problem with my medium on my 54 cross check.
 Pretty annoying. Nobody likes spending MORE money just to make the
 thing they just spent money on work.
 
 On Jun 7, 12:26 pm, johnb jbust...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 I am challenged by short legs. I have a 52cm Atlantis with 26 wheels with
 a medium saddlesack and SKS fenders. Because the bike frame is small and
 the saddle sack is medium, the bag rubs back and forth throughout the ride
 against the fender. When I put a rear rack on, it silences the bag but 
 also
 cuts 30% of its capacity out since it gets a bit smushed... For the 
 moment,
 I am tolerating the back and forth but there are days it bugs the — well
 lets just say it gets on my nerves.
 
 So my question, are there good canvas saddlebags that hold tools, tube,
 sunscreen and assorted sundries that will fit in my frame?
 
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[RBW] Re: Saddlebags and smaller bikes

2012-06-07 Thread dougP
johnb

If the swaying is the most objectionable problem, look into
stabilizing the bag with some shock cord to an attachment point lower
and to the rear.  A D-ring on the bag and a small hook at one of the
drop-out eyelets (they're made for panniers) provide the attachments.
Cord tied to the D-ring with a hook at the end, similar to a bungee
hook, and voila, stability restored.  May need some fiddling with the
length of the cord to get the optimal amount of tension.  Cheap
experiment to try before changing bags or going the rack route.

dougP

On Jun 7, 10:26 am, johnb jbust...@gmail.com wrote:
 I am challenged by short legs. I have a 52cm Atlantis with 26 wheels with
 a medium saddlesack and SKS fenders. Because the bike frame is small and
 the saddle sack is medium, the bag rubs back and forth throughout the ride
 against the fender. When I put a rear rack on, it silences the bag but also
 cuts 30% of its capacity out since it gets a bit smushed... For the moment,
 I am tolerating the back and forth but there are days it bugs the — well
 lets just say it gets on my nerves.

 So my question, are there good canvas saddlebags that hold tools, tube,
 sunscreen and assorted sundries that will fit in my frame?

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