Re: [RBW] Re: Silver2 shifters have arrived!
Dynasys / 11s / etc My experience tells me these levers will not pair well with a Dynasys or 11s RD. In fact, I think the Silver 1 shifters probably offer better adjustability when used as downtube shifters. I use those older style silvers to friction shift a 10s rear cluster on one bike and the levels require a comically light touch to shift. They shift great but I feel like I’m stirring a my tea with a tiny spoon. (This is a fun thing and makes me smile every time. Remember bike riding was fun?!) Fear not - months back on the riv blog they posted a bike hike to effectively increase the diameter of the level pully. They describe clamping a small plastic tube on the cable just where it exits the lever. Try this with the Silver2 shifter! The bike hack is a thing that anyone can do with hand tools. Side note - those mismatched levers that VO sells are also jarring to me. I like a mix of symmetry and wabi sabi on my bikes but that one big level one small lever looks off. Someone could pay a machinist to build a matching left hand / front lever and end up with a visually matching set. Couldn’t they? Jason SF,CA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/DB762494-F56A-4E92-9822-70094E91102E%40gmail.com.
[RBW] Re: Silver2 shifters have arrived!
James, Riv says same guts and it certainly feels like it in the stand. I just mounted one on a bar-end but can't ride report yet. Soon! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/8fc65d13-a451-4516-a1db-f983d3ddc06e%40googlegroups.com.
[RBW] Re: Silver2 shifters have arrived!
Do these have the same exact ratchet as the previous silver shifters? On Wednesday, November 27, 2019 at 10:45:53 PM UTC-5, dougP wrote: > > The long awaited Silver 2 shifters have arrived, just in time for the > holidays: > > https://www.rivbike.com/collections/shifting/products/kjalgjoihjga44451 > > The mounts for upright bars are delayed a bit but the shifters also work > as bar ends & down tubes. Treat yourself to something nice; maybe buy a > spare pair "just in case". Shifters sold individually so you can do all > sorts of crazy things. See the website for which-goes-where. > > dougP > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/b6ee8d17-b1e5-4367-9919-1e80629f23ac%40googlegroups.com.
[RBW] Re: Silver2 shifters have arrived!
I still use Microshift's barend made for Shimano's 10 speed mountain deraileurs, works great. Even better in friction mode. No pretty silver finish, though... On Saturday, November 30, 2019 at 7:55:55 PM UTC-5, Matt C. wrote: > I would love to know the answer to this as well before ordering a pair. As > far as I know dynasis requires about 1.1 mm more pull per shift than Shimano > road. I like 10 speed friction for road, so it would be nice to find > something that allows for this amount of travel to use for more off road > derailleurs. If someone calls Riv and asks, let the rest of us know! Thanks. > > Matt Cook in CT -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/06b7f90c-a30f-4393-b572-240cdf3b647b%40googlegroups.com.
[RBW] Re: Silver2 shifters have arrived!
I would love to know the answer to this as well before ordering a pair. As far as I know dynasis requires about 1.1 mm more pull per shift than Shimano road. I like 10 speed friction for road, so it would be nice to find something that allows for this amount of travel to use for more off road derailleurs. If someone calls Riv and asks, let the rest of us know! Thanks. Matt Cook in CT -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/28e5231f-7017-4753-aa0b-6c3db78542a4%40googlegroups.com.
[RBW] Re: Silver2 shifters have arrived!
"...isn't one of the key advantages of friction shifters the ability to work with all derailleurs?" That was one back in the day, yes, but it doesn't really apply now in a world of varying versions of 10, 11, and 12-speed systems. The continued primary advantage of Power Ratchet friction shifters is they're great. I'm going to ditch my 9-speed indexer for a Silver2 on my eClem L because it works better. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/7c7598bc-c8e4-4676-975a-72d941c8a32b%40googlegroups.com.
[RBW] Re: Silver2 shifters have arrived!
Like I said, I think the shifter is designed for the derailers Grant/Riv knows and sells. The Deore and Deore XT non-Dyna mechs will work with 10-speed cassettes and Shimano 10 bar-ends and brifters, and the latter can be replaced with Silver2. I don't work there and can't give an official pronouncement, but I would think the longer pull of Dyna-Sys would be incompatible. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/db65487d-6e26-4307-959e-039215d015c2%40googlegroups.com.
[RBW] Re: Silver2 shifters have arrived!
On Friday, November 29, 2019 at 11:08:57 PM UTC-8, Joe Bernard wrote: > > It doesn't say it on the Rivbike.com listing, but the Instagram post said > "works with 10, better with 9", and this is undoubtedly related to the > normal derailers they sell. I don't know anything about Dyna-Sys but if > that mech expects a longer throw at the shifter then it's no go. "Works with 10, better with 9" is a bit ambiguous, because Shimano's 10-speed road component requirements are different from 10-speed mountain component requirements. The 10-speed mountain components are Dyna-Sys, and require longer cable pull, but they offer useful functions like clutches to mitigate chain slap. This can be useful for the kind of mixed-terrain routes that Rivendell is known for (before mixed-terrain or gravel became a thing). Being Dyna-Sys compatible is also good for application flexibility, as users don't have to be concerned about whether a particular rear derailleur will work with this friction shifter; isn't one of the key advantages of friction shifters the ability to work with all derailleurs? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/72bfa4f7-255a-49ed-93c8-00dfaa825a6e%40googlegroups.com.
[RBW] Re: Silver2 shifters have arrived!
It doesn't say it on the Rivbike.com listing, but the Instagram post said "works with 10, better with 9", and this is undoubtedly related to the normal derailers they sell. I don't know anything about Dyna-Sys but if that mech expects a longer throw at the shifter then it's no go. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/e81cd3e3-5cc0-4106-9650-d75640c0b416%40googlegroups.com.
[RBW] Re: Silver2 shifters have arrived!
Maybe I missed it, but do these new shifters pull enough cable for the Shimano 10-speed Dyna-Sys mountain derailleurs? I know there’s an ENE “lopsided” version that does, but I’m not sure I can get over the asymmetry. :) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/b0a7d0f1-42cc-4704-a64a-095a868198f4%40googlegroups.com.
[RBW] Re: Silver2 shifters have arrived!
Congratulations to Grant and company for bringing the shifters to life. A lot of emotional and financial equity here. Hope they sell a bunch of them. I use my original Silvers as bar ends and downtubers. I'll be curious to hear how the Silver 2s compare when used in this manner. Best, Rich in ATL On Wednesday, November 27, 2019 at 10:45:53 PM UTC-5, dougP wrote: > > The long awaited Silver 2 shifters have arrived, just in time for the > holidays: > > https://www.rivbike.com/collections/shifting/products/kjalgjoihjga44451 > > The mounts for upright bars are delayed a bit but the shifters also work > as bar ends & down tubes. Treat yourself to something nice; maybe buy a > spare pair "just in case". Shifters sold individually so you can do all > sorts of crazy things. See the website for which-goes-where. > > dougP > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/d138c781-0beb-41d0-98c1-ec1c81a0e8d6%40googlegroups.com.
[RBW] Re: Silver2 shifters have arrived!
Added a pair to the basket, along with a wildlife hatchet. Been waiting a while for both, so it's good timing. Plenty of kindling to make for the winter, and I get to mess with the shifters like a worry-stone until the mounts arrive, or Spring - which ever comes first. Marty The long awaited Silver 2 shifters have arrived, just in time for the > holidays: > > https://www.rivbike.com/collections/shifting/products/kjalgjoihjga44451 > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/c406b373-359d-404c-89d1-340adf5f58dc%40googlegroups.com.
