[RBW] Re: Suggest a small bike for a 5'2 woman
I ride a 47 Homer (same as a Saluki) with Albatross and an 8cm dirt drop. Fits pretty good with a drops set-up for me and I'm 5'2.5'' -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Suggest a small bike for a 5'2 woman
Endless Velo Love has ridden and owned a lot of bikes (including SH and AHH). Also includes go-fast, and some just-ride bikes. Might give you some ideas, though some were mentioned earlier this thread (Surly Crosscheck, Pacer, Trek Carbon, Trek Aluminum, SH, AHH/Saluki): http://endlessvelolove.blogspot.com/p/endless-bicycles.html On Thursday, January 30, 2014 10:58:09 PM UTC-5, dougP wrote: My wife is 5'-2 and rides a 47 cm Atlantis. The TT is around 51 cm, c-c. I didn't try to account for the slightly sloping top tube. On the blug Riv mentions having 47 cm Salukis. That would make a really nice road bike. dougP On Thursday, January 30, 2014 11:14:16 AM UTC-8, Anne Paulson wrote: A new member of my bike club posted that she wants to buy a new road bike. She doesn't have much experience on the road. So I suggested some issues she ought to think about. Now she returns saying that she is trying to decide between two Trek carbon bikes, one of them a 47 cm and the other a 50 cm. She likes the bigger bike because the handlebars are higher and wider, but the salesperson says the reach is too long on the bigger bike. I want to gently suggest that she look in another direction (not a racing bike with a stupidly high low gear and stupidly low handlebars! I did not say that to her). I would've suggested a Sam, but it seems like even the 47 cm would be too long for her: the two bikes she is looking at have effective top tube lengths of 50.9 and 51.9 (something like that) and the Sam is quite a bit longer at 54.5 cm. Any suggestions for a fun road bike for a small woman? I think a Sam would be in her price range. -- -- Anne Paulson It isn't a contest. Enjoy the ride. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Suggest a small bike for a 5'2 woman
The Blug notes that there's a stash of small bike frames-- even a 47-cm Saluki. It might be worthwhile for her to talk to Riv-- they also seem quite good at steering folks to other venues if the price and/or style would better suit the customer. --shoji On Thursday, January 30, 2014 2:14:16 PM UTC-5, Anne Paulson wrote: A new member of my bike club posted that she wants to buy a new road bike. She doesn't have much experience on the road. So I suggested some issues she ought to think about. Now she returns saying that she is trying to decide between two Trek carbon bikes, one of them a 47 cm and the other a 50 cm. She likes the bigger bike because the handlebars are higher and wider, but the salesperson says the reach is too long on the bigger bike. I want to gently suggest that she look in another direction (not a racing bike with a stupidly high low gear and stupidly low handlebars! I did not say that to her). I would've suggested a Sam, but it seems like even the 47 cm would be too long for her: the two bikes she is looking at have effective top tube lengths of 50.9 and 51.9 (something like that) and the Sam is quite a bit longer at 54.5 cm. Any suggestions for a fun road bike for a small woman? I think a Sam would be in her price range. -- -- Anne Paulson It isn't a contest. Enjoy the ride. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Suggest a small bike for a 5'2 woman
Hi Anne, I'm 5'2 and have a 75cm PBH. 50/51 Rivs fit perfectly; specifically my 50 saluki and 51 protobleriot. The little Hunq I rode at Riv also fit well (not sure what size Hunq's come in). Given the little frames at Riv, I would see if you can get your friend to go visit with you under the guise of looking at lots of options so she knows she's making a good decision. What's her time frame? liesl -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Suggest a small bike for a 5'2 woman
A 47cm 'Luki would be an fantastic bike!!! Something w/ 650B wheels would best in that size to avoid TCO. Also right now on ebay is this incredibly awesome bike: http://www.ebay.com/itm/131105366157 On Thursday, January 30, 2014 11:27:03 AM UTC-8, Shoji Takahashi wrote: The Blug notes that there's a stash of small bike frames-- even a 47-cm Saluki. It might be worthwhile for her to talk to Riv-- they also seem quite good at steering folks to other venues if the price and/or style would better suit the customer. --shoji On Thursday, January 30, 2014 2:14:16 PM UTC-5, Anne Paulson wrote: A new member of my bike club posted that she wants to buy a new road bike. She doesn't have much experience on the road. So I suggested some issues she ought to think about. Now she returns saying that she is trying to decide between two Trek carbon bikes, one of them a 47 cm and the other a 50 cm. She likes the bigger bike because the handlebars are higher and wider, but the salesperson says the reach is too long on the bigger bike. I want to gently suggest that she look in another direction (not a racing bike with a stupidly high low gear and stupidly low handlebars! I did not say that to her). I would've suggested a Sam, but it seems like even the 47 cm would be too long for her: the two bikes she is looking at have effective top tube lengths of 50.9 and 51.9 (something like that) and the Sam is quite a bit longer at 54.5 cm. Any suggestions for a fun road bike for a small woman? I think a Sam would be in her price range. -- -- Anne Paulson It isn't a contest. Enjoy the ride. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Suggest a small bike for a 5'2 woman
I don't know this woman personally. If I did, we'd be making the trip to Walnut Creek! She's a member of my bike club, Western Wheelers. My bike club is filled with wonderful people who love to ride, but mostly they are riding these racing-type bikes. On Thu, Jan 30, 2014 at 11:36 AM, Liesl li...@smm.org wrote: Hi Anne, I'm 5'2 and have a 75cm PBH. 50/51 Rivs fit perfectly; specifically my 50 saluki and 51 protobleriot. The little Hunq I rode at Riv also fit well (not sure what size Hunq's come in). Given the little frames at Riv, I would see if you can get your friend to go visit with you under the guise of looking at lots of options so she knows she's making a good decision. What's her time frame? liesl -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- -- Anne Paulson It isn't a contest. Enjoy the ride. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Suggest a small bike for a 5'2 woman
Surly Pacer is available in small sizes. On Thursday, January 30, 2014 1:14:16 PM UTC-6, Anne Paulson wrote: A new member of my bike club posted that she wants to buy a new road bike. She doesn't have much experience on the road. So I suggested some issues she ought to think about. Now she returns saying that she is trying to decide between two Trek carbon bikes, one of them a 47 cm and the other a 50 cm. She likes the bigger bike because the handlebars are higher and wider, but the salesperson says the reach is too long on the bigger bike. I want to gently suggest that she look in another direction (not a racing bike with a stupidly high low gear and stupidly low handlebars! I did not say that to her). I would've suggested a Sam, but it seems like even the 47 cm would be too long for her: the two bikes she is looking at have effective top tube lengths of 50.9 and 51.9 (something like that) and the Sam is quite a bit longer at 54.5 cm. Any suggestions for a fun road bike for a small woman? I think a Sam would be in her price range. -- -- Anne Paulson It isn't a contest. Enjoy the ride. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Suggest a small bike for a 5'2 woman
good one on the Pacer recommendation, Jim! Have a short friend who loves hers. Crosscheck too? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Suggest a small bike for a 5'2 woman
Thanks Anne, et al, for starting this thread. My 'life partner' (about 5'2) has had a 51cm/26 wheel Rambouillet for a decade, which she loves. I finally got it set up right for her (a few years back) with short reach drops and a *5* cm stem -- no way to make the top tube shorter! I've been looking for a rain bike frame for her for awhileand was mostly looking for older Schwinns and Treks with nice tubing. But I hadn't considered the Soma San Marcos: very interesting, particularly the very slack seat angle! (I'm using a high-setback seatpost on my partner's bike, rather than the nice Nitto it came with) Does anyone know if one can fit 38mm tires (would like to use the Soma B-lines) on that bike *with* fenders? That's the design goal of the bike I want to build for her... By the way: true that the Pacers come small, but look at that seat angle! (75.5) That's going to make the top tube *very* long, once you get the bike set up comfortably! (notice that the reach is almost the same on the 42cm frame as on the 54cm.. only .4 inches=1cm difference) If these frames can take 38s plus fenders, I'm going to start selling old frames to finance one... Art Tacoma -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Suggest a small bike for a 5'2 woman
Soma Fab makes their ES road frame in sizes down to a 47. http://www.somafab.com/archives/product/es She could get one built up at American Cyclery in SF. It will fit 32mm tires and can get built with reasonable gearing. mike -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Suggest a small bike for a 5'2 woman
Re. the Soma San Marcos, I think the geometry figures with respect to the seat-tube angle are incorrect -- there's just no way that every size frame has a seat-tube angle of 71.5! And I've NEVER seen a small road bike where that's even possible. -- Liz On Thursday, January 30, 2014 4:51:58 PM UTC-5, art wrote: Thanks Anne, et al, for starting this thread. My 'life partner' (about 5'2) has had a 51cm/26 wheel Rambouillet for a decade, which she loves. I finally got it set up right for her (a few years back) with short reach drops and a *5* cm stem -- no way to make the top tube shorter! I've been looking for a rain bike frame for her for awhileand was mostly looking for older Schwinns and Treks with nice tubing. But I hadn't considered the Soma San Marcos: very interesting, particularly the very slack seat angle! (I'm using a high-setback seatpost on my partner's bike, rather than the nice Nitto it came with) Does anyone know if one can fit 38mm tires (would like to use the Soma B-lines) on that bike *with* fenders? That's the design goal of the bike I want to build for her... By the way: true that the Pacers come small, but look at that seat angle! (75.5) That's going to make the top tube *very* long, once you get the bike set up comfortably! (notice that the reach is almost the same on the 42cm frame as on the 54cm.. only .4 inches=1cm difference) If these frames can take 38s plus fenders, I'm going to start selling old frames to finance one... Art Tacoma -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Suggest a small bike for a 5'2 woman
There's definitely a way to make the seat tube angle 71.5 on all the bikes, and since Grant likes a seat tube angle of 71.5, and he's the designer, that's what the bikes have. But notice, if you make the seat tube angle more relaxed on a smaller bike, that necessarily moves the saddle backwards and makes the top tube longer. And that's why Grant's small bikes have longer top tubes: precisely because of the slacker seat tube. On Thu, Jan 30, 2014 at 1:57 PM, Elisabeth Sherwood elisabeth.sherw...@gmail.com wrote: Re. the Soma San Marcos, I think the geometry figures with respect to the seat-tube angle are incorrect -- there's just no way that every size frame has a seat-tube angle of 71.5! And I've NEVER seen a small road bike where that's even possible. -- Liz On Thursday, January 30, 2014 4:51:58 PM UTC-5, art wrote: Thanks Anne, et al, for starting this thread. My 'life partner' (about 5'2) has had a 51cm/26 wheel Rambouillet for a decade, which she loves. I finally got it set up right for her (a few years back) with short reach drops and a *5* cm stem -- no way to make the top tube shorter! I've been looking for a rain bike frame for her for awhileand was mostly looking for older Schwinns and Treks with nice tubing. But I hadn't considered the Soma San Marcos: very interesting, particularly the very slack seat angle! (I'm using a high-setback seatpost on my partner's bike, rather than the nice Nitto it came with) Does anyone know if one can fit 38mm tires (would like to use the Soma B-lines) on that bike *with* fenders? That's the design goal of the bike I want to build for her... By the way: true that the Pacers come small, but look at that seat angle! (75.5) That's going to make the top tube *very* long, once you get the bike set up comfortably! (notice that the reach is almost the same on the 42cm frame as on the 54cm.. only .4 inches=1cm difference) If these frames can take 38s plus fenders, I'm going to start selling old frames to finance one... Art Tacoma -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- -- Anne Paulson It isn't a contest. Enjoy the ride. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Suggest a small bike for a 5'2 woman
The smaller San Marcos frames also have 650b wheels, which gives Grant even more wiggle room to design a slack seat angle. Like Anne said, the seat tube is longer because the seat tube angle really is that relaxed. Longer chainstays helps a designer too. In smaller frames, short chainstays + big wheels = steep seat tube angle. I'm sorry for the misinformation earlier; the 51cm top tube measurement is inside-to-inside, not c-to-c. Tim -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Suggest a small bike for a 5'2 woman
And for the list: The technical discussion in Riv Reader #26 is Grant's treastise on this subject. How handlebar height affects how far the bars are from you, and why that means top tube length is something you shouldn't harp on. On Thu, Jan 30, 2014 at 6:54 PM, Tim Gavin tim.ga...@littlevillagemag.comwrote: The smaller San Marcos frames also have 650b wheels, which gives Grant even more wiggle room to design a slack seat angle. Like Anne said, the seat tube is longer because the seat tube angle really is that relaxed. Longer chainstays helps a designer too. In smaller frames, short chainstays + big wheels = steep seat tube angle. I'm sorry for the misinformation earlier; the 51cm top tube measurement is inside-to-inside, not c-to-c. Tim -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Suggest a small bike for a 5'2 woman
The Salsa Vaya is also worth a look. It uses 26 inch wheels in the smaller sizes. Dan Abelson On Thu, Jan 30, 2014 at 7:25 PM, Tim Gavin tim.ga...@littlevillagemag.comwrote: And for the list: The technical discussion in Riv Reader #26 is Grant's treastise on this subject. How handlebar height affects how far the bars are from you, and why that means top tube length is something you shouldn't harp on. On Thu, Jan 30, 2014 at 6:54 PM, Tim Gavin tim.ga...@littlevillagemag.com wrote: The smaller San Marcos frames also have 650b wheels, which gives Grant even more wiggle room to design a slack seat angle. Like Anne said, the seat tube is longer because the seat tube angle really is that relaxed. Longer chainstays helps a designer too. In smaller frames, short chainstays + big wheels = steep seat tube angle. I'm sorry for the misinformation earlier; the 51cm top tube measurement is inside-to-inside, not c-to-c. Tim -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Suggest a small bike for a 5'2 woman
My wife is 5'-2 and rides a 47 cm Atlantis. The TT is around 51 cm, c-c. I didn't try to account for the slightly sloping top tube. On the blug Riv mentions having 47 cm Salukis. That would make a really nice road bike. dougP On Thursday, January 30, 2014 11:14:16 AM UTC-8, Anne Paulson wrote: A new member of my bike club posted that she wants to buy a new road bike. She doesn't have much experience on the road. So I suggested some issues she ought to think about. Now she returns saying that she is trying to decide between two Trek carbon bikes, one of them a 47 cm and the other a 50 cm. She likes the bigger bike because the handlebars are higher and wider, but the salesperson says the reach is too long on the bigger bike. I want to gently suggest that she look in another direction (not a racing bike with a stupidly high low gear and stupidly low handlebars! I did not say that to her). I would've suggested a Sam, but it seems like even the 47 cm would be too long for her: the two bikes she is looking at have effective top tube lengths of 50.9 and 51.9 (something like that) and the Sam is quite a bit longer at 54.5 cm. Any suggestions for a fun road bike for a small woman? I think a Sam would be in her price range. -- -- Anne Paulson It isn't a contest. Enjoy the ride. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
