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Re: [RBW] Re: Susie Longbolts – offload yours on me or talk me out of it?!

2023-11-21 Thread Ryan Frahm

I will chime in just to say that I think Richard is right about how amazing 
these bikes are to ride! In my opinion, I’d go for a Gus. If I had, I’d 
likely still have it. I’m 170lbs so on Will’s suggestion I went for the 
Susie. In my experience, the Susie turns into a noodle at speed through the 
rough. It was better with a different bar (I had a Tosco 60cm) but I bet 
the Gus is awesome with the stiffer steering. 

I think it really depends how aggressively you ride though. Just cruising 
through rough roads the Susie rode like a dream! I was just honestly 
worried I was going to break it every time I rode it more aggressively 
though. I do still jump often as a note. Just my experience. 

On Tuesday, November 21, 2023 at 11:18:55 AM UTC-8 krhe...@gmail.com wrote:

> @Richard -
> You are more than welcome.
>
> I'm glad to hear that you are trying to express your inner joy and 
> happiness riding your bikes. 
>
> Excellent question presented.
>
> Kim Hetzel.
>
>
>
> On Tue, Nov 21, 2023, 10:45 AM Richard Rose  wrote:
>
>> Thanks Kim. I am only writing in a somewhat lame attempt to put into 
>> words the joy riding these bikes brings me. How many forms of exercise 
>> exist where you cannot wait for the next workout?
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Nov 21, 2023, at 11:59 AM, Kim H.  wrote:
>>
>> 
>> @Richard -
>> I always enjoy reading your posts, whether it's about riding your Gus or 
>> your Clem. 
>>
>> Kim Hetzel.
>>
>> On Tue, Nov 21, 2023, 6:28 AM Richard Rose  wrote:
>>
>>> This exactly is why I was not disappointed when I thought I wanted a 
>>> Susie but found a Gus instead. I am 170lbs. but wanted no limitations in 
>>> regards to loading the bike or jumping it. I mean, at 68 I am only jumping 
>>> by accident, but I do enjoy the rough stuff including drops of up to two 
>>> feet. On my local trail there is this one jump, not much more that a foot 
>>> in height but it seems like more as it’s a downhill landing leading to a 
>>> flat bridge. It’s a fun feature that I did once on the Gus & the Bosco 
>>> slipped. Nothing too dramatic but alarming nonetheless. Problem has been 
>>> solved with the Albacore bar - solid as a rock. So that is still my “one 
>>> jump”.:)
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>> On Nov 20, 2023, at 8:53 PM, Kim H.  wrote:
>>>
>>> 
>>> From the RBW website about Susie W. Longbolts:
>>>
>>> "It’s like the Gus but for riders under 210 pounds and who promise to 
>>> ride them with loads of 25lbs or less, and no jumps or canyon-crossings. 
>>> It's a Gus for lightweights and light loads. A Susie/Wolbis frame 
>>> weighs only about 12oz less than the same sized Gus frame, and there is NO 
>>> ride difference. If you make the weight limit and have no plans for 
>>> off-road bikepacking or death-defying showoff stuff, get this over Gus. 
>>> Also, it uses a quill stem and has a Riv-standard 1-inch threaded steerer.
>>>
>>> Our 210 lb weight limit is a conservative hunch, not laboratory-derived. 
>>> A lot of it depends on tire pressure and even more importantly, technique. 
>>> It's not like the Susie has super thin-walled tubes or anything, but it 
>>> doesn't have the same abuse cushion that Gus has."
>>>
>>> Kim Hetzel.
>>>
>>> On Monday, November 20, 2023 at 4:52:11 PM UTC-8 rmro...@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 This review is pretty convincing.
 [image: Rivendell-Gus-Boots-Willsen-Review-hero.jpeg]

 The Rivendell Gus Boots Willsen Hillibike Makes a Case for 550mm 
 Chainstays 
 
 bikerumor.com 
 
 

 Sent from my iPhone

 On Nov 20, 2023, at 2:43 PM, Joe Bernard  wrote:

 I believe Large in this instance means 56cm, they seem open to 
 shipping. They're not coming up very often s...



 https://sfbay.craigslist.org/sfc/bik/d/san-francisco-large-gold-rivendell/7689088638.html

 On Monday, November 20, 2023 at 9:06:25 AM UTC-8 Max S wrote:

> Thinking of getting a fatter-tired bike going for casual Zone 2 
> sorties and quiet trail riding. (Mainly need a frame as an excuse to use 
> my 
> idle Bullmoose bars... so it goes.) 
>
> If you have a Susie, what's your experience been like? Would you 
> recommend it and for what? Should I try to find a 56 cm Susie (Riv is out 
> of stock), or should I get something else?.. Should I get something 
> custom 
> made that'll be lighter?.. 
>
> - Max "idle lunchtime thoughts on this cool November day while not 
> wanting to do any work nor organize my already overflowing bike room" in 
> MI 
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Re: [RBW] Re: Susie Longbolts – offload yours on me or talk me out of it?!

2023-11-21 Thread Kim H.

@Richard -
You are more than welcome.

I'm glad to hear that you are trying to express your inner joy and
happiness riding your bikes.

Excellent question presented.

Kim Hetzel.



On Tue, Nov 21, 2023, 10:45 AM Richard Rose  wrote:

> Thanks Kim. I am only writing in a somewhat lame attempt to put into words
> the joy riding these bikes brings me. How many forms of exercise exist
> where you cannot wait for the next workout?
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Nov 21, 2023, at 11:59 AM, Kim H.  wrote:
>
> 
> @Richard -
> I always enjoy reading your posts, whether it's about riding your Gus or
> your Clem.
>
> Kim Hetzel.
>
> On Tue, Nov 21, 2023, 6:28 AM Richard Rose  wrote:
>
>> This exactly is why I was not disappointed when I thought I wanted a
>> Susie but found a Gus instead. I am 170lbs. but wanted no limitations in
>> regards to loading the bike or jumping it. I mean, at 68 I am only jumping
>> by accident, but I do enjoy the rough stuff including drops of up to two
>> feet. On my local trail there is this one jump, not much more that a foot
>> in height but it seems like more as it’s a downhill landing leading to a
>> flat bridge. It’s a fun feature that I did once on the Gus & the Bosco
>> slipped. Nothing too dramatic but alarming nonetheless. Problem has been
>> solved with the Albacore bar - solid as a rock. So that is still my “one
>> jump”.:)
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Nov 20, 2023, at 8:53 PM, Kim H.  wrote:
>>
>> 
>> From the RBW website about Susie W. Longbolts:
>>
>> "It’s like the Gus but for riders under 210 pounds and who promise to
>> ride them with loads of 25lbs or less, and no jumps or canyon-crossings.
>> It's a Gus for lightweights and light loads. A Susie/Wolbis frame
>> weighs only about 12oz less than the same sized Gus frame, and there is NO
>> ride difference. If you make the weight limit and have no plans for
>> off-road bikepacking or death-defying showoff stuff, get this over Gus.
>> Also, it uses a quill stem and has a Riv-standard 1-inch threaded steerer.
>>
>> Our 210 lb weight limit is a conservative hunch, not laboratory-derived.
>> A lot of it depends on tire pressure and even more importantly, technique.
>> It's not like the Susie has super thin-walled tubes or anything, but it
>> doesn't have the same abuse cushion that Gus has."
>>
>> Kim Hetzel.
>>
>> On Monday, November 20, 2023 at 4:52:11 PM UTC-8 rmro...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> This review is pretty convincing.
>>> [image: Rivendell-Gus-Boots-Willsen-Review-hero.jpeg]
>>>
>>> The Rivendell Gus Boots Willsen Hillibike Makes a Case for 550mm
>>> Chainstays
>>> 
>>> bikerumor.com
>>> 
>>> 
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>> On Nov 20, 2023, at 2:43 PM, Joe Bernard  wrote:
>>>
>>> I believe Large in this instance means 56cm, they seem open to
>>> shipping. They're not coming up very often s...
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> https://sfbay.craigslist.org/sfc/bik/d/san-francisco-large-gold-rivendell/7689088638.html
>>>
>>> On Monday, November 20, 2023 at 9:06:25 AM UTC-8 Max S wrote:
>>>
 Thinking of getting a fatter-tired bike going for casual Zone 2 sorties
 and quiet trail riding. (Mainly need a frame as an excuse to use my idle
 Bullmoose bars... so it goes.)

 If you have a Susie, what's your experience been like? Would you
 recommend it and for what? Should I try to find a 56 cm Susie (Riv is out
 of stock), or should I get something else?.. Should I get something custom
 made that'll be lighter?..

 - Max "idle lunchtime thoughts on this cool November day while not
 wanting to do any work nor organize my already overflowing bike room" in MI

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Re: [RBW] Re: Susie Longbolts – offload yours on me or talk me out of it?!

2023-11-21 Thread Richard Rose

Thanks Kim. I am only writing in a somewhat lame attempt to put into words the joy riding these bikes brings me. How many forms of exercise exist where you cannot wait for the next workout?Sent from my iPhoneOn Nov 21, 2023, at 11:59 AM, Kim H. wrote:@Richard -I always enjoy reading your posts, whether it's about riding your Gus or your Clem. Kim Hetzel.On Tue, Nov 21, 2023, 6:28 AM Richard Rose wrote:This exactly is why I was not disappointed when I thought I wanted a Susie but found a Gus instead. I am 170lbs. but wanted no limitations in regards to loading the bike or jumping it. I mean, at 68 I am only jumping by accident, but I do enjoy the rough stuff including drops of up to two feet. On my local trail there is this one jump, not much more that a foot in height but it seems like more as it’s a downhill landing leading to a flat bridge. It’s a fun feature that I did once on the Gus & the Bosco slipped. Nothing too dramatic but alarming nonetheless. Problem has been solved with the Albacore bar - solid as a rock. So that is still my “one jump”.:)Sent from my iPhoneOn Nov 20, 2023, at 8:53 PM, Kim H. wrote:From the RBW website about Susie W. Longbolts:
"It’s like the Gus but for riders under 210 pounds and who promise to
ride them with loads of 25lbs or less, and no jumps or canyon-crossings.
It's a Gus for lightweights and light loads. A Susie/Wolbis frame
weighs only about 12oz less than the same sized Gus frame, and there is
NO ride difference. If you make the weight limit and have no plans for
off-road bikepacking or death-defying showoff stuff, get this over Gus.
Also, it uses a quill stem and has a Riv-standard 1-inch threaded
steerer.
Our 210 lb weight limit is a conservative hunch, not
laboratory-derived. A lot of it depends on tire pressure and even more
importantly, technique. It's not like the Susie has super thin-walled
tubes or anything, but it doesn't have the same abuse cushion that Gus
has."Kim Hetzel.

On Monday, November 20, 2023 at 4:52:11 PM UTC-8 rmro...@gmail.com wrote:This review is pretty convincing.The Rivendell Gus Boots Willsen Hillibike Makes a Case for 550mm Chainstaysbikerumor.comSent from my iPhoneOn Nov 20, 2023, at 2:43 PM, Joe Bernard wrote:I believe Large in this instance means 56cm, they seem open to shipping. They're not coming up very often s...https://sfbay.craigslist.org/sfc/bik/d/san-francisco-large-gold-rivendell/7689088638.htmlOn Monday, November 20, 2023 at 9:06:25 AM UTC-8 Max S wrote:Thinking of getting a fatter-tired bike going for casual Zone 2 sorties and quiet trail riding. (Mainly need a frame as an excuse to use my idle Bullmoose bars... so it goes.) If you have a Susie, what's your experience been like? Would you recommend it and for what? Should I try to find a 56 cm Susie (Riv is out of stock), or should I get something else?.. Should I get something custom made that'll be lighter?.. - Max "idle lunchtime thoughts on this cool November day while not wanting to do any work nor organize my already overflowing bike room" in MI

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Re: [RBW] Re: Susie Longbolts – offload yours on me or talk me out of it?!

2023-11-21 Thread Kim H.

@Richard -
I always enjoy reading your posts, whether it's about riding your Gus or
your Clem.

Kim Hetzel.

On Tue, Nov 21, 2023, 6:28 AM Richard Rose  wrote:

> This exactly is why I was not disappointed when I thought I wanted a Susie
> but found a Gus instead. I am 170lbs. but wanted no limitations in regards
> to loading the bike or jumping it. I mean, at 68 I am only jumping by
> accident, but I do enjoy the rough stuff including drops of up to two feet.
> On my local trail there is this one jump, not much more that a foot in
> height but it seems like more as it’s a downhill landing leading to a flat
> bridge. It’s a fun feature that I did once on the Gus & the Bosco slipped.
> Nothing too dramatic but alarming nonetheless. Problem has been solved with
> the Albacore bar - solid as a rock. So that is still my “one jump”.:)
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Nov 20, 2023, at 8:53 PM, Kim H.  wrote:
>
> 
> From the RBW website about Susie W. Longbolts:
>
> "It’s like the Gus but for riders under 210 pounds and who promise to ride
> them with loads of 25lbs or less, and no jumps or canyon-crossings. It's
> a Gus for lightweights and light loads. A Susie/Wolbis frame weighs only
> about 12oz less than the same sized Gus frame, and there is NO ride
> difference. If you make the weight limit and have no plans for off-road
> bikepacking or death-defying showoff stuff, get this over Gus. Also, it
> uses a quill stem and has a Riv-standard 1-inch threaded steerer.
>
> Our 210 lb weight limit is a conservative hunch, not laboratory-derived.
> A lot of it depends on tire pressure and even more importantly, technique.
> It's not like the Susie has super thin-walled tubes or anything, but it
> doesn't have the same abuse cushion that Gus has."
>
> Kim Hetzel.
>
> On Monday, November 20, 2023 at 4:52:11 PM UTC-8 rmro...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> This review is pretty convincing.
>> [image: Rivendell-Gus-Boots-Willsen-Review-hero.jpeg]
>>
>> The Rivendell Gus Boots Willsen Hillibike Makes a Case for 550mm
>> Chainstays
>> 
>> bikerumor.com
>> 
>> 
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Nov 20, 2023, at 2:43 PM, Joe Bernard  wrote:
>>
>> I believe Large in this instance means 56cm, they seem open to shipping.
>> They're not coming up very often s...
>>
>>
>>
>> https://sfbay.craigslist.org/sfc/bik/d/san-francisco-large-gold-rivendell/7689088638.html
>>
>> On Monday, November 20, 2023 at 9:06:25 AM UTC-8 Max S wrote:
>>
>>> Thinking of getting a fatter-tired bike going for casual Zone 2 sorties
>>> and quiet trail riding. (Mainly need a frame as an excuse to use my idle
>>> Bullmoose bars... so it goes.)
>>>
>>> If you have a Susie, what's your experience been like? Would you
>>> recommend it and for what? Should I try to find a 56 cm Susie (Riv is out
>>> of stock), or should I get something else?.. Should I get something custom
>>> made that'll be lighter?..
>>>
>>> - Max "idle lunchtime thoughts on this cool November day while not
>>> wanting to do any work nor organize my already overflowing bike room" in MI
>>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Susie Longbolts – offload yours on me or talk me out of it?!

2023-11-21 Thread Richard Rose

This exactly is why I was not disappointed when I thought I wanted a Susie but found a Gus instead. I am 170lbs. but wanted no limitations in regards to loading the bike or jumping it. I mean, at 68 I am only jumping by accident, but I do enjoy the rough stuff including drops of up to two feet. On my local trail there is this one jump, not much more that a foot in height but it seems like more as it’s a downhill landing leading to a flat bridge. It’s a fun feature that I did once on the Gus & the Bosco slipped. Nothing too dramatic but alarming nonetheless. Problem has been solved with the Albacore bar - solid as a rock. So that is still my “one jump”.:)Sent from my iPhoneOn Nov 20, 2023, at 8:53 PM, Kim H. wrote:From the RBW website about Susie W. Longbolts:
"It’s like the Gus but for riders under 210 pounds and who promise to
ride them with loads of 25lbs or less, and no jumps or canyon-crossings.
It's a Gus for lightweights and light loads. A Susie/Wolbis frame
weighs only about 12oz less than the same sized Gus frame, and there is
NO ride difference. If you make the weight limit and have no plans for
off-road bikepacking or death-defying showoff stuff, get this over Gus.
Also, it uses a quill stem and has a Riv-standard 1-inch threaded
steerer.
Our 210 lb weight limit is a conservative hunch, not
laboratory-derived. A lot of it depends on tire pressure and even more
importantly, technique. It's not like the Susie has super thin-walled
tubes or anything, but it doesn't have the same abuse cushion that Gus
has."Kim Hetzel.

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Re: [RBW] Re: Susie Longbolts – offload yours on me or talk me out of it?!

2023-11-20 Thread Kim H.

>From the RBW website about Susie W. Longbolts:

"It’s like the Gus but for riders under 210 pounds and who promise to ride 
them with loads of 25lbs or less, and no jumps or canyon-crossings. It's 
a Gus for lightweights and light loads. A Susie/Wolbis frame weighs only 
about 12oz less than the same sized Gus frame, and there is NO ride 
difference. If you make the weight limit and have no plans for off-road 
bikepacking or death-defying showoff stuff, get this over Gus. Also, it 
uses a quill stem and has a Riv-standard 1-inch threaded steerer.

Our 210 lb weight limit is a conservative hunch, not laboratory-derived. 
A lot of it depends on tire pressure and even more importantly, technique. 
It's not like the Susie has super thin-walled tubes or anything, but it 
doesn't have the same abuse cushion that Gus has."

Kim Hetzel.

On Monday, November 20, 2023 at 4:52:11 PM UTC-8 rmro...@gmail.com wrote:

> This review is pretty convincing.
> [image: Rivendell-Gus-Boots-Willsen-Review-hero.jpeg]
>
> The Rivendell Gus Boots Willsen Hillibike Makes a Case for 550mm Chainstays 
> 
> bikerumor.com 
> 
> 
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Nov 20, 2023, at 2:43 PM, Joe Bernard  wrote:
>
> I believe Large in this instance means 56cm, they seem open to shipping. 
> They're not coming up very often s...
>
>
>
> https://sfbay.craigslist.org/sfc/bik/d/san-francisco-large-gold-rivendell/7689088638.html
>
> On Monday, November 20, 2023 at 9:06:25 AM UTC-8 Max S wrote:
>
>> Thinking of getting a fatter-tired bike going for casual Zone 2 sorties 
>> and quiet trail riding. (Mainly need a frame as an excuse to use my idle 
>> Bullmoose bars... so it goes.) 
>>
>> If you have a Susie, what's your experience been like? Would you 
>> recommend it and for what? Should I try to find a 56 cm Susie (Riv is out 
>> of stock), or should I get something else?.. Should I get something custom 
>> made that'll be lighter?.. 
>>
>> - Max "idle lunchtime thoughts on this cool November day while not 
>> wanting to do any work nor organize my already overflowing bike room" in MI 
>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Susie Longbolts – offload yours on me or talk me out of it?!

2023-11-20 Thread Richard Rose

Just re-reading my post. To be clear, it’s the Gus that was a bit more precise up front. Credit I guess to the 1 1/8” threadless steer tube? Possibly insignificant.Sent from my iPhoneOn Nov 20, 2023, at 2:43 PM, Joe Bernard wrote:I believe Large in this instance means 56cm, they seem open to shipping. They're not coming up very often s...https://sfbay.craigslist.org/sfc/bik/d/san-francisco-large-gold-rivendell/7689088638.htmlOn Monday, November 20, 2023 at 9:06:25 AM UTC-8 Max S wrote:Thinking of getting a fatter-tired bike going for casual Zone 2 sorties and quiet trail riding. (Mainly need a frame as an excuse to use my idle Bullmoose bars... so it goes.) If you have a Susie, what's your experience been like? Would you recommend it and for what? Should I try to find a 56 cm Susie (Riv is out of stock), or should I get something else?.. Should I get something custom made that'll be lighter?.. - Max "idle lunchtime thoughts on this cool November day while not wanting to do any work nor organize my already overflowing bike room" in MI

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[RBW] Re: Susie Longbolts – offload yours on me or talk me out of it?!

2023-11-20 Thread Joe Bernard

I believe Large in this instance means 56cm, they seem open to shipping. 
They're not coming up very often s...

https://sfbay.craigslist.org/sfc/bik/d/san-francisco-large-gold-rivendell/7689088638.html

On Monday, November 20, 2023 at 9:06:25 AM UTC-8 Max S wrote:

> Thinking of getting a fatter-tired bike going for casual Zone 2 sorties 
> and quiet trail riding. (Mainly need a frame as an excuse to use my idle 
> Bullmoose bars... so it goes.) 
>
> If you have a Susie, what's your experience been like? Would you recommend 
> it and for what? Should I try to find a 56 cm Susie (Riv is out of stock), 
> or should I get something else?.. Should I get something custom made 
> that'll be lighter?.. 
>
> - Max "idle lunchtime thoughts on this cool November day while not wanting 
> to do any work nor organize my already overflowing bike room" in MI 
>

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[RBW] Re: Susie Longbolts – offload yours on me or talk me out of it?!

2023-11-20 Thread Mack Penner

Hi Max,

In the spirit of talking you in rather than talking you out: I completely 
love my 59 cm Susie and it would be great for what you describe. 

The only time I think I could stand to add another mountain bike is when I 
don't ride the Susie for a period of time. Otherwise, it does everything 
I'd ever ask of it, from the prairie single track I usually ride to 
occasional visits to the Rockies. 

But thinking of it as a mountain bike sells it short; hillibike is apt. The 
best thing about it is its versatility. It does not ever tempt me (well, I 
don't own a car, but the point stands) to drive to a trailhead, because it 
is super pleasant for cruising along city streets. And for related reasons 
it would make a great touring bike (I'll try that next summer). Last week, 
I did a 65km ride that was half city cruising with my dad, half mtb ride. 
Then, a couple days later, I did 50kms on trails, gravel roads, city 
streets, and a large hike-a-bike segment. Best bike around for that kind of 
mix-and-match stuff. 

And I wouldn't worry for a second about weight. Mine is rackless, but 
otherwise built without a care for weight: super heavy dynamo hub (w front 
and rear lights), super heavy Flyer saddle, super heavy xtra wide steel 
bars, heavy Cliffhanger rims, and heavy 2.8 inch tires. It's right around 
30 pounds and it rides light. My 2TT appaloosa doesn't ever compare, the 
Susie is tons more "sporty." And oh the flex! It's like a dual sus bike 
without all the drawbacks. I also think, fwiw, that it's a great candidate 
for a "light build," and one day I'll prob cannibalize another bike to try 
it out with a light wheelset, 2.2ish inch tires... it would fly. 

Mack 

On Monday, November 20, 2023 at 10:06:25 AM UTC-7 Max S wrote:

> Thinking of getting a fatter-tired bike going for casual Zone 2 sorties 
> and quiet trail riding. (Mainly need a frame as an excuse to use my idle 
> Bullmoose bars... so it goes.) 
>
> If you have a Susie, what's your experience been like? Would you recommend 
> it and for what? Should I try to find a 56 cm Susie (Riv is out of stock), 
> or should I get something else?.. Should I get something custom made 
> that'll be lighter?.. 
>
> - Max "idle lunchtime thoughts on this cool November day while not wanting 
> to do any work nor organize my already overflowing bike room" in MI 
>

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