Re: [RBW] Re: Wald 137 bag recommendations?

[ericyue...@gmail.com]

Thanks for all the responses!  I've been looking at the RAL and Hungry 
bags, so appreciate the feedback on those.  The Reload Deluxe Waldo also 
looks good; there's so many options!

On Saturday, April 3, 2021 at 10:23:43 AM UTC-7 Benjamin Kelley wrote:

> It's a bit spendy, but is the perfect day to day bag for me for shopping.  
> The Blue Lug 137 Tote.   
> https://global.bluelug.com/blue-lug-137-tote-bag-wax-grey.html
> Footprint is the size of the 137 basket and it has a simple roll top 
> closure with a toggle, and the strap detaches from one side and you run it 
> under the basket.
>
> On Sat, Apr 3, 2021 at 10:06 AM George Cline  wrote:
>
>> I've got the Wald bag for my 137. No external pockets but I just toss my 
>> lock and grocery sacks inside it. It has pretty long straps that can be 
>> pulled over the shoulder, but I usually just leave it velcro'ed to the 
>> basket, (small town, not much chance of it getting ripped off!). The only 
>> negative for me was the zipper tabs made a lot of noise bouncing around so 
>> I wrapped them with tape. About $36 shipped from Wald, they're a pretty 
>> good deal!
>>
>> George in NoCal
>>
>>
>> [image: IMG_20210403_075459377.jpg]
>> On Saturday, April 3, 2021 at 7:22:19 AM UTC-7 pbsm...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> There's also the RAL WB Loader from Simworks. I've got one. I mostly 
>>> like the design but I'm not crazy about the plastic hardware. 
>>> [image: 20210225_114028-01.jpeg]
>>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Wald 137 bag recommendations?

['j glenn' via RBW Owners Bunch]

I've got a Trout Moose bag that works fine.  Its bike specific, lighter, 
tighter and matchy matchy, but I cant say its superior to the canvas coal 
tote it replaced. And the tote had handles. 
On Saturday, April 3, 2021 at 8:16:24 AM UTC-4 Jon BALER wrote:

> That Hungry bag looks pretty nice.  Cool to see a company put the straps 
> to secure bag on the basket, which is way simpler and just as effective.
>
> The ILE Porteur Rackbag-Small- can also fit in a 137 basket, and has some 
> interesting features.  I've been using one with a basket, but find it's 
> better with a demi porteur rack.
> I just use two bungees to keep in the basket, which easily moved to the 
> side for bag loading/unloading.
> https://ilequipment.com/products/porteur-rackbag-small
>
> On Fri, Apr 2, 2021 at 9:53 PM Patch T  wrote:
>
>> Eric, I've gone through a lot since I've posted.
>>
>> The Outershell bag couldn't adapt well to random large loads, I sold it. 
>> Maybe a little too technical for my needs. Also, off-bike, it looked odd 
>> hanging from my person. And was too similar to my rando bag, a 
>> characteristic I thought I would enjoy more.
>>
>> Riv's Shopsack gets used the most. Alas, no outer pockets, but this I 
>> remedy with stem bags/caddies. I wish mine had an internal pocket. And a 
>> shoulder strap, or longer handles.
>>
>> I used a North St duffel; also doesn't expand, I kept running out of 
>> room. Great for the daily commute or gym run, but without the stop at the 
>> market.
>>
>> I currently have a Porcelain Rocket Meanwhile 
>> , and love it's 
>> simplicity and weather-proofedness, as well as it's HUGE volume potential, 
>> and ease of cinching down. But no shoulder-capable straps, or 
>> internal/external pockets. Small handles. So close! 
>>
>> If someone would buy my Porcelain Rocket bag, I would get one of these  
>> from
>>  
>> Hungry. I think it's perfect for me. (I've said that before) Does someone 
>> want to buy my Porcelain Rocket bag? It's in great condition! 
>>
>> I have yet to try the Sugarloaf. I worry it isn't roomy enough.
>>
>> Still looking for the perfect basket bag in BK/NY,
>> Patch
>>
>>
>> On Friday, April 2, 2021 at 6:55:29 PM UTC-4 ericyue...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Putting a 137 on my new Sam Hillborne build so am in the market for a 
>>> bag to go into it.  This thread was useful, but I know there are a lot more 
>>> options now so I figured I'd see if folks have any other recommendations.  
>>> I have pretty much the same criteria as the OP.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Eric
>>> On Saturday, July 21, 2018 at 10:03:24 AM UTC-7 Patch T wrote:
>>>
 Thanks Ana! You're absolutely right, and I've been using a basket with 
 net and various tote bags for years. Simply looking to up the basket's 
 efficiency considering the growing number of basket-specific bags in 
 production out there. 

 And honestly, I wouldn't mind at all if I didn't have to untangle 
 another basket net ever again!



 I still haven't decided y'all. Torn between minimalism and non. It's an 
 identity crisis of sorts.

 Patch
 BK/NY

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Re: [RBW] Re: Wald 137 bag recommendations?

[Jon Schultz]

That Hungry bag looks pretty nice.  Cool to see a company put the straps to
secure bag on the basket, which is way simpler and just as effective.

The ILE Porteur Rackbag-Small- can also fit in a 137 basket, and has some
interesting features.  I've been using one with a basket, but find it's
better with a demi porteur rack.
I just use two bungees to keep in the basket, which easily moved to the
side for bag loading/unloading.
https://ilequipment.com/products/porteur-rackbag-small

On Fri, Apr 2, 2021 at 9:53 PM Patch T  wrote:

> Eric, I've gone through a lot since I've posted.
>
> The Outershell bag couldn't adapt well to random large loads, I sold it.
> Maybe a little too technical for my needs. Also, off-bike, it looked odd
> hanging from my person. And was too similar to my rando bag, a
> characteristic I thought I would enjoy more.
>
> Riv's Shopsack gets used the most. Alas, no outer pockets, but this I
> remedy with stem bags/caddies. I wish mine had an internal pocket. And a
> shoulder strap, or longer handles.
>
> I used a North St duffel; also doesn't expand, I kept running out of room.
> Great for the daily commute or gym run, but without the stop at the market.
>
> I currently have a Porcelain Rocket Meanwhile
> , and love it's
> simplicity and weather-proofedness, as well as it's HUGE volume potential,
> and ease of cinching down. But no shoulder-capable straps, or
> internal/external pockets. Small handles. So close!
>
> If someone would buy my Porcelain Rocket bag, I would get one of these
> from
> Hungry. I think it's perfect for me. (I've said that before) Does someone
> want to buy my Porcelain Rocket bag? It's in great condition!
>
> I have yet to try the Sugarloaf. I worry it isn't roomy enough.
>
> Still looking for the perfect basket bag in BK/NY,
> Patch
>
>
> On Friday, April 2, 2021 at 6:55:29 PM UTC-4 ericyue...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>>
>> Putting a 137 on my new Sam Hillborne build so am in the market for a bag
>> to go into it.  This thread was useful, but I know there are a lot more
>> options now so I figured I'd see if folks have any other recommendations.
>> I have pretty much the same criteria as the OP.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Eric
>> On Saturday, July 21, 2018 at 10:03:24 AM UTC-7 Patch T wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks Ana! You're absolutely right, and I've been using a basket with
>>> net and various tote bags for years. Simply looking to up the basket's
>>> efficiency considering the growing number of basket-specific bags in
>>> production out there.
>>>
>>> And honestly, I wouldn't mind at all if I didn't have to untangle
>>> another basket net ever again!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I still haven't decided y'all. Torn between minimalism and non. It's an
>>> identity crisis of sorts.
>>>
>>> Patch
>>> BK/NY
>>>
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[RBW] Re: Wald 137 bag recommendations?

[Patch T]

Eric, I've gone through a lot since I've posted.

The Outershell bag couldn't adapt well to random large loads, I sold it. 
Maybe a little too technical for my needs. Also, off-bike, it looked odd 
hanging from my person. And was too similar to my rando bag, a 
characteristic I thought I would enjoy more.

Riv's Shopsack gets used the most. Alas, no outer pockets, but this I 
remedy with stem bags/caddies. I wish mine had an internal pocket. And a 
shoulder strap, or longer handles.

I used a North St duffel; also doesn't expand, I kept running out of room. 
Great for the daily commute or gym run, but without the stop at the market.

I currently have a Porcelain Rocket Meanwhile 
, and love it's simplicity 
and weather-proofedness, as well as it's HUGE volume potential, and ease of 
cinching down. But no shoulder-capable straps, or internal/external 
pockets. Small handles. So close! 

If someone would buy my Porcelain Rocket bag, I would get one of these  
from 
Hungry. I think it's perfect for me. (I've said that before) Does someone 
want to buy my Porcelain Rocket bag? It's in great condition! 

I have yet to try the Sugarloaf. I worry it isn't roomy enough.

Still looking for the perfect basket bag in BK/NY,
Patch


On Friday, April 2, 2021 at 6:55:29 PM UTC-4 ericyue...@gmail.com wrote:

>
> Putting a 137 on my new Sam Hillborne build so am in the market for a bag 
> to go into it.  This thread was useful, but I know there are a lot more 
> options now so I figured I'd see if folks have any other recommendations.  
> I have pretty much the same criteria as the OP.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Eric
> On Saturday, July 21, 2018 at 10:03:24 AM UTC-7 Patch T wrote:
>
>> Thanks Ana! You're absolutely right, and I've been using a basket with 
>> net and various tote bags for years. Simply looking to up the basket's 
>> efficiency considering the growing number of basket-specific bags in 
>> production out there. 
>>
>> And honestly, I wouldn't mind at all if I didn't have to untangle another 
>> basket net ever again!
>>
>>
>>
>> I still haven't decided y'all. Torn between minimalism and non. It's an 
>> identity crisis of sorts.
>>
>> Patch
>> BK/NY
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: Wald 137 bag recommendations?

[ericyue...@gmail.com]

Putting a 137 on my new Sam Hillborne build so am in the market for a bag 
to go into it.  This thread was useful, but I know there are a lot more 
options now so I figured I'd see if folks have any other recommendations.  
I have pretty much the same criteria as the OP.

Thanks,

Eric
On Saturday, July 21, 2018 at 10:03:24 AM UTC-7 Patch T wrote:

> Thanks Ana! You're absolutely right, and I've been using a basket with net 
> and various tote bags for years. Simply looking to up the basket's 
> efficiency considering the growing number of basket-specific bags in 
> production out there. 
>
> And honestly, I wouldn't mind at all if I didn't have to untangle another 
> basket net ever again!
>
>
>
> I still haven't decided y'all. Torn between minimalism and non. It's an 
> identity crisis of sorts.
>
> Patch
> BK/NY
>

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[RBW] Re: Wald 137 bag recommendations?

[Patch T]

Thanks Ana! You're absolutely right, and I've been using a basket with net 
and various tote bags for years. Simply looking to up the basket's 
efficiency considering the growing number of basket-specific bags in 
production out there. 

And honestly, I wouldn't mind at all if I didn't have to untangle another 
basket net ever again!



I still haven't decided y'all. Torn between minimalism and non. It's an 
identity crisis of sorts.

Patch
BK/NY

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[RBW] Re: Wald 137 bag recommendations?

[Dave Grossman]

Has anyone actually tried the very inexpensive version Wald sells for the 
basket?

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[RBW] Re: Wald 137 bag recommendations?

[nick b]

I ride with a Sackville Shopsack a lot.  You can put shitloads in it and it 
expands well.  I keep double d-rings on it so it stays in well when being 
ridden on decent roads and then I use a bungee net when I'm going to be 
riding dirt.  It's VERY expandable and secure.  Maybe worth a look for 
you.  It meets all of your requirements but the outside compartments.  
However, I usually end up strapping things between the net at the bag and 
then keep a stem caddy on my bike for the rest.  I've used other basket 
bags and don't like them as much as that option.

On Saturday, July 14, 2018 at 8:24:08 AM UTC-7, Patch T wrote:
>
> A google search for Wald 137 bags show a lot more options than a year+ ago 
> when I was looking last. I had decided to opt for a rando-style bag and am 
> not sure I totally love it. I miss the basket. 
> What are folks' favorites?
>
> My main criteria are:
>
> - easy in and out
> - shoulder strappable
> - very secure to basket for 'rough' riding
> - generous volume
> - outside compartments for stowage of things
> - weatherproof
>
> Mostly familiar with Sugarloaf and Dark Realm bags. What else though?
>
> Patch
> BK/NY
>
>

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[RBW] Re: Wald 137 bag recommendations?

[Joe Bernard]

Ian, your question was why most basket bags aren't designed with long handles. 
Your solution for them works, but if I was designing a basket bag..no way José. 
The trick is to offer a detachable long strap and let the buyer decide if they 
want to use it. Making it a permanent part of the bag and hoping they don't 
screw it up sounds like a liability nightmare. 

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[RBW] Re: Wald 137 bag recommendations?

[ian m]

Having ridden with cloth totes in a basket for many years I can say with 
confidence neither visual nor reality has ever been a problem.

Plus, with a nice canvas rolltop, you would roll the handles right up!

On Monday, July 16, 2018 at 10:21:28 PM UTC-4, Joe Bernard wrote:
>
> The problem with long handles in baskets over spinning wheels...I'll let 
> the visual take you from there. 

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[RBW] Re: Wald 137 bag recommendations?

[Patch T]

Again, thanks all for your replies.

I think I am mostly sold on the Outer Shell. It's pretty much a rando bag 
fit for a basket, best of both worlds. I like the one-handed open/close 
function. Also, seems there is a bit of an inner sleeve with a closure that 
can expand some to accommodate the rare large load. Not as roomy as a 
rolltop, though. Map case, external pocket, internal pockets. I love 
pockets.

p

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[RBW] Re: Wald 137 bag recommendations?

[ChrisB]

Hi Patch

Another data point:

I've got the larger Wald basket on my bike; I'm totally sold on it for 
versatility and ease of use. A bag that fits perfectly, has many colour 
options and meets a lot of your criteria is the Patagonia Tormiro Pack. It 
has two neatly designed external pockets that's are accessible when the bag 
is flat in the basket and a laptop sleeve. Off the bike, it's a 
bucket-style rucksack and kind of vintage-looking.

Often on discount plus it's Patagonia; well made and conscientious goods. 
Just put a net over the top if you're bounding down single-track!

Best, Chris

On Saturday, 14 July 2018 16:24:08 UTC+1, Patch T wrote:
>
> A google search for Wald 137 bags show a lot more options than a year+ ago 
> when I was looking last. I had decided to opt for a rando-style bag and am 
> not sure I totally love it. I miss the basket. 
> What are folks' favorites?
>
> My main criteria are:
>
> - easy in and out
> - shoulder strappable
> - very secure to basket for 'rough' riding
> - generous volume
> - outside compartments for stowage of things
> - weatherproof
>
> Mostly familiar with Sugarloaf and Dark Realm bags. What else though?
>
> Patch
> BK/NY
>
>

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[RBW] Re: Wald 137 bag recommendations?

[Joe Bernard]

The problem with long handles in baskets over spinning wheels...I'll let the 
visual take you from there. 

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[RBW] Re: Wald 137 bag recommendations?

[ian m]

I don't understand why these tote style bags always have tiny little 
handles. I would love one with slightly longer handles so you can either 
carry it or put it over a shoulder comfortably. This is the case with like 
90% of cloth tote bags!

I like the roll top feature, easy way to keep water out. Plain bag, tall 
enough to roll down, slightly longer straps. That's all I need!

On Saturday, July 14, 2018 at 11:24:08 AM UTC-4, Patch T wrote:
>
> A google search for Wald 137 bags show a lot more options than a year+ ago 
> when I was looking last. I had decided to opt for a rando-style bag and am 
> not sure I totally love it. I miss the basket. 
> What are folks' favorites?
>
> My main criteria are:
>
> - easy in and out
> - shoulder strappable
> - very secure to basket for 'rough' riding
> - generous volume
> - outside compartments for stowage of things
> - weatherproof
>
> Mostly familiar with Sugarloaf and Dark Realm bags. What else though?
>
> Patch
> BK/NY
>
>

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[RBW] Re: Wald 137 bag recommendations?

[Jon BALER]

 

I have a reload bag, and I’ve been very happy with.  I don’t think it has a 
shoulder strap, just tote handles.  You could probably rig up something to 
the buckles.  I like how the roll top bag allows to me to expand capacity 
as needed.  

 

I don’t understand why the bag makers bother putting features on the bag to 
attach it to the basket.   I just have bungees over the top of my basket, 
which keeps the bag in place and the roll top closed.  I simply stretch the 
bungees around the basket perimeter when I need to get to the bag.  I also 
put mating Velcro over the Velcro on the bag opening, because I found it 
unnecessary and complicated interior bag access.  The bungees and roll-top 
keep it closed just fine.

 

The ball bungees typically stay in the same place, but I can quickly adjust 
them multiple ways for small or large loads if needed.   The swift bag has 
limited capacity, and a zipper that can require two hands to open.  And 
putting a zipper on top of the bag where water intrusion is most likely 
seems like a bad idea.


On Sunday, July 15, 2018 at 10:13:40 PM UTC-4, Dave Small wrote:
>
> Hi Patch,
>
> I just got mine and haven't used it yet, but it has straps on the sides 
> that lock it into place.  It won't bounce out.  This big question is, I 
> think, is it roomy enough for you and can you live without external 
> pockets?  The price sure is right.  
>
> Dave
>
> On Sunday, July 15, 2018 at 10:20:23 AM UTC-4, Patch T wrote:
>>
>>
>> Dave, do you have the Acorn? Looks roomy and simple. Does it seem to be 
>> able to hold tight on bumpy terrain?
>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: Wald 137 bag recommendations?

['Dave Small' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Hi Patch,

I just got mine and haven't used it yet, but it has straps on the sides 
that lock it into place.  It won't bounce out.  This big question is, I 
think, is it roomy enough for you and can you live without external 
pockets?  The price sure is right.  

Dave

On Sunday, July 15, 2018 at 10:20:23 AM UTC-4, Patch T wrote:
>
>
> Dave, do you have the Acorn? Looks roomy and simple. Does it seem to be 
> able to hold tight on bumpy terrain?
>
>

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[RBW] Re: Wald 137 bag recommendations?

[Jeremy Tavan]

I haven't spent much time riding rough places with the OuterShell bag, but 
it's fairly structured with rigid plastic inserts, and that's before you 
add the foam camera inserts. I wouldn't be particularly worried about 
floppiness.

On Sunday, July 15, 2018 at 7:20:23 AM UTC-7, Patch T wrote:
>
>
> The OuterShell looks like a rando bag made to fit in a basket. My main 
> concern with my rando bag is it's floppiness. Fine for smooth roads, but 
> moves around too much on trails. Perhaps inside a basket the OuterShell 
> basket bag would be more structured? 
>
> Jeremy, can you speak to this?
>
> Wish the Sugarloaf was a little bigger too. Looks to be the most secure. 
>
> Dave, do you have the Acorn? Looks roomy and simple. Does it seem to be 
> able to hold tight on bumpy terrain?
>
> Others come very close but no cigars yet. Thanks all for input! 
>

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[RBW] Re: Wald 137 bag recommendations?

[Patch T]

The OuterShell looks like a rando bag made to fit in a basket. My main 
concern with my rando bag is it's floppiness. Fine for smooth roads, but 
moves around too much on trails. Perhaps inside a basket the OuterShell 
basket bag would be more structured? 

Jeremy, can you speak to this?

Wish the Sugarloaf was a little bigger too. Looks to be the most secure. 

Dave, do you have the Acorn? Looks roomy and simple. Does it seem to be 
able to hold tight on bumpy terrain?

Others come very close but no cigars yet. Thanks all for input! 

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[RBW] Re: Wald 137 bag recommendations?

[Jeremy Tavan]

I have bought far too many Wald 137-specific bags because I just love 
bag-in-basket loading. I'm not sure what would best meet your criteria, but 
a few thoughts:

RELoad - Capacious, available in custom colorsets, relatively easy in and 
out, relatively secure, has outside pocket. Not enough individual 
compartments for my commute load.
Swift Sugarloaf - Fits my commute load...barely. Would be perfect if about 
30% taller. VERY secure, easy in and out, slim exterior pockets don't hold 
much. Lots of interior compartments. My favorite so far.
Outershell - Rugged, nice camera inserts, hasn't gotten a ton of use yet, 
slightly weird securing with lots of long bungee.
Acorn Basket Tote (1 strap) - Don't own one yet, but I love the simplicity 
and capacity.
Acorn Basket Bag (2 steraps) - Capcious, a little awkward over the 
shoulder, but meets most other requirements and has a great look. They 
don't seem to list it on their web site any more.
Shopsack Medium - Not what you're looking for, probably. 

On Saturday, July 14, 2018 at 8:24:08 AM UTC-7, Patch T wrote:
>
> A google search for Wald 137 bags show a lot more options than a year+ ago 
> when I was looking last. I had decided to opt for a rando-style bag and am 
> not sure I totally love it. I miss the basket. 
> What are folks' favorites?
>
> My main criteria are:
>
> - easy in and out
> - shoulder strappable
> - very secure to basket for 'rough' riding
> - generous volume
> - outside compartments for stowage of things
> - weatherproof
>
> Mostly familiar with Sugarloaf and Dark Realm bags. What else though?
>
> Patch
> BK/NY
>
>

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[RBW] Re: Wald 137 bag recommendations?

['Dave Small' via RBW Owners Bunch]

I'll suggest the Acorn Basket Tote in case you're unfamiliar with it:

https://www.acornbags.com/products/basket-tote

It doesn't have outside storage compartments, but I think it meets your 
other criteria (depending on how "generous" you want the volume to be) and 
it's made of canvas by the hands of 2 magic elves in California.  Acorns 
are usually out of stock, but I just checked and khaki is in stock as I 
type this.  

Dave
Indy/Boston

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[RBW] Re: Wald 137 bag recommendations?

[Shawn Granton]

On Saturday, July 14, 2018 at 8:24:08 AM UTC-7, Patch T wrote:
>
> A google search for Wald 137 bags show a lot more options than a year+ ago 
> when I was looking last. I had decided to opt for a rando-style bag and am 
> not sure I totally love it. I miss the basket. 
> What are folks' favorites?
>
> My main criteria are:
>
> - easy in and out
> - shoulder strappable
> - very secure to basket for 'rough' riding
> - generous volume
> - outside compartments for stowage of things
> - weatherproof
>
> Patch-
You are right in thinking there are more options for a basket bag then 
before. I think most of your criteria can be met easily, except for the 
"outside compartments". 

Troutmoose makes a simple but durable bag: 
https://troutmoose.com/shop/small-rolltop-basketrack-bag/  

For deluxe, Makeshifter has one with all the bells and whistles including 
exterior pockets: 
http://www.makeshiftercanvasworks.com/shop-online/basket-bag

yours,
Shawn

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[RBW] Re: Wald 137 bag recommendations?

[Joe Bernard]

ClembaSack? I guess it doesn't match all your requests - only one inner pocket, 
grab handles not shoulderable - but it's a nice bag that fits. 

https://www.rivbike.com/products/sackville-clem-bag

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[RBW] Re: Wald 137 bag recommendations?

[Patch T]

Outershell?
ReLoad?

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