Re: [RBW] Re: What is the Rivish upgrade from Synergy rims?
I like the A23 rims as a lighter faster rim, but it is harder to mount tires on them compared to the Synergy rim, for which I don't need tools to mount a tire. Whereas, with the A23s, I definitely need levers. This means longer flat repair times for me, but maybe it will get easier as the tires wear in... Toshi -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: What is the Rivish upgrade from Synergy rims?
Toshi, Is this with 650b or 700c tires? On May 23, 2013, at 9:36 AM, Toshi Takeuchi tto...@gmail.com wrote: I like the A23 rims as a lighter faster rim, but it is harder to mount tires on them compared to the Synergy rim, for which I don't need tools to mount a tire. Whereas, with the A23s, I definitely need levers. This means longer flat repair times for me, but maybe it will get easier as the tires wear in... Toshi -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: What is the Rivish upgrade from Synergy rims?
This is my experience with 700c rims--maybe it doesn't translate to 650b--Leslie? Toshi On Thu, May 23, 2013 at 9:40 AM, JL subfas...@gmail.com wrote: Toshi, Is this with 650b or 700c tires? On May 23, 2013, at 9:36 AM, Toshi Takeuchi tto...@gmail.com wrote: I like the A23 rims as a lighter faster rim, but it is harder to mount tires on them compared to the Synergy rim, for which I don't need tools to mount a tire. Whereas, with the A23s, I definitely need levers. This means longer flat repair times for me, but maybe it will get easier as the tires wear in... Toshi -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: What is the Rivish upgrade from Synergy rims?
Tires do fit more snugly on the 650B version of the A23 than on my Velocity Synergies in 650b. That is a very very good thing, in my opinion. The only significant shortcoming of Velocity Synergies in my opinion is that it's very difficult to get tires to run straight on them. The A23 is a tubeless ready rim, and as such had a very shallow well at the bead seat. The consequence is two-fold. First, if you don't modify your tire mounting techniques, you might need to use a tirelever to mount your tires. Second, you'll never have to try and work the tire bead into balance around the rim. Disclaimers/qualifiers: I've read that there was an oversized batch of Velocity Synergies in 650B, and I've never had one of those. I've also read that there was a batch of Synergies that cracked at the spoke holes and I've never had one of those. So, among 650B rims The things I prefer about the Synergies: I like the O/C idea, I like the parallel side walls and the height of the side walls. I like the price and the weight. The things I prefer about the A23: A little lighter than the Synergy. Inexpensive like the Synergy. Tires run straighter. I wish it had eyelets. I wish it had taller and parallel side walls The things I prefer about the Pacenti: Wicked light. Eyelets. Parallel tall sidewalls. Tires run straight. But, they are expensive and you can see them deform around the spoke holes when the wheel is properly tensioned. Will it hold up under normal use? We'll see. On Thursday, May 23, 2013 11:12:52 AM UTC-7, ttoshi wrote: This is my experience with 700c rims--maybe it doesn't translate to 650b--Leslie? Toshi On Thu, May 23, 2013 at 9:40 AM, JL subf...@gmail.com javascript: wrote: Toshi, Is this with 650b or 700c tires? On May 23, 2013, at 9:36 AM, Toshi Takeuchi tto...@gmail.comjavascript: wrote: I like the A23 rims as a lighter faster rim, but it is harder to mount tires on them compared to the Synergy rim, for which I don't need tools to mount a tire. Whereas, with the A23s, I definitely need levers. This means longer flat repair times for me, but maybe it will get easier as the tires wear in... Toshi -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com javascript:. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.comjavascript:. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com javascript:. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.comjavascript:. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: What is the Rivish upgrade from Synergy rims?
On Thursday, May 23, 2013 2:12:52 PM UTC-4, ttoshi wrote: This is my experience with 700c rims--maybe it doesn't translate to 650b--Leslie? Toshi, my experience is about the same as yours: it depends on both the rim, and which tire you're mounting. My 700c Dyads have, overall, been the easiest to mount tires on, no difficulties encountered, regardless of tire; some tires are easier than others (Pasela vs Ruffys, vs CX tires), but none have been hard. My 650b Synergys, depends on the tire: Conti Tour Rides were not fun to fit on 'em, but Pacenti NeoMotos were very easy (almost too easy, actually). Hetres on my 650b A23 are the worst I've encountered for mounting; I like how straight the A23's are, were really easy to build, and it seems to be a light yet stout rim. I love the Hetres, the way they ride. But mounting Hetres on the A23's took awhile, and levers, and effort; I hope the tires stretch out such that they would be easy to remount if I get a flat, because I wouldn't want to remount it sitting on the shoulder of a highway. I've not tried 700c A23's yet, since I've got the Dyads, but may one day. And I wish there were 650b Dyads around still (especially if in 36h). I will say, though, I do suspect that it's the 650b's that have a little more variability in actual rim diameter and tire sizes versus 700c's: 700c's have been the bread-n-butter for so long for all of the manufacturers, that I think they're just more consistent, whereas the 650b market is newer, smaller, and still has a larger range in sizes happening for tires and rims. Maybe not, but, that's my impression. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: What is the Rivish upgrade from Synergy rims?
I do not know if they are still made in the 650B size. I do not know the width That said - The Velocity Dyad is a world beater rim for a commuting bike On Friday, May 17, 2013 1:47:09 PM UTC+10, Michael wrote: Don't want a wider rim. Same size 650b. What's a good upgrade? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: What is the Rivish upgrade from Synergy rims?
Based on the variety of answers, a good question might be, what, in your instance, constitutes an upgrade? Weight, strength, finish? Kind of reminds me of Keith Bontrager's famous statement about bike parts--strong, light, cheap--choose two. On Thursday, May 16, 2013 11:47:09 PM UTC-4, Michael wrote: Don't want a wider rim. Same size 650b. What's a good upgrade? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: What is the Rivish upgrade from Synergy rims?
maybe from a cross section profile, but the Dyad is a stronger rim than the Synergy. It's more like the Atlas in function. ~mike On Sunday, May 19, 2013 8:42:37 PM UTC-7, Leslie wrote: The Atlas is like a beefed-up Synergy; the A23 is like a lighter Dyad. I haven't had any problems from my Synergies, but I like my A23 rims, and intend to keep building on them now. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: What is the Rivish upgrade from Synergy rims?
On Tuesday, May 21, 2013 5:42:51 PM UTC-4, Mike Schiller wrote: maybe from a cross section profile, but the Dyad is a stronger rim than the Synergy. It's more like the Atlas in function. Oh, I agree... I'm running 700c Dyads, and wish the 650b ones were still available.My first 650b wheelset are Synergy rims, and I've had no problems w/ them, but, do like the Dyad/A23 cross-section better than the boxy section rims. That's why my next set of rims I built were the A23 in 650b. My next set will probably be another A23 650b set, but I may build another 700c set, which could end up either A23 or Dyads -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: What is the Rivish upgrade from Synergy rims?
If I were up-grading, I would begin with tires. Choose lighter more supple. That rules out cheaper but not necessarily more flat resistant. Next I would look at hubs, unless I had a really substandard rim. If you listen to experienced wheel builders they all rate Mavic and Velocity rims highly. e.g from Peter Whites web site, Velocity and Mavic make the best rims I've found. Until recently I have ridden exclusively on 700c wheels and primarily on Mavic rims. Never had a bad one. I dented a Velocity rim on a curb, that wasn't the rims fault. For years I rode Campy NR hubs and found them durable and very easy to service. Ultegra hubs do seem to hold up better than the 105s, but for the money I have found the White Ind Hubs to be super. I use them on both my Ram Bilenkey tandem. I have a lot of bikes to maintain, mine, my wives, my daughters son-in-laws and have really come to appreciate low maintenance parts. That said, I have never been willing to spring for a PW hub; it just feels like overkill. But I do like PW BBs. Michael I just bought a fabulous Saluki with a basic wheel set. At some point I will probably upgrade the hubs. Rims, well maybe. On Tuesday, May 21, 2013 6:39:00 PM UTC-4, Leslie wrote: On Tuesday, May 21, 2013 5:42:51 PM UTC-4, Mike Schiller wrote: maybe from a cross section profile, but the Dyad is a stronger rim than the Synergy. It's more like the Atlas in function. Oh, I agree... I'm running 700c Dyads, and wish the 650b ones were still available.My first 650b wheelset are Synergy rims, and I've had no problems w/ them, but, do like the Dyad/A23 cross-section better than the boxy section rims. That's why my next set of rims I built were the A23 in 650b. My next set will probably be another A23 650b set, but I may build another 700c set, which could end up either A23 or Dyads -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: What is the Rivish upgrade from Synergy rims?
Not sure if Dyad rims are available in sizes other than 700c but I like mine fine and I am 260 lbs. I use Delta Cruiser tires however so they are only about 36mm wide at around 75-80 psi. I'd prefer wider but not enough room under the fenders with my Hillborne. The Dyad rim was recommended to me by Rich at Riv. I'd just call them and get a recommendation. On Friday, May 17, 2013 5:24:36 PM UTC-7, René wrote: Forgot to add that front Atlas rim is 32 holes and rear is 36. Should be irrelevant, but just in case. External rim width is the same for both: 25.5mm René — Sent from Mailbox https://bit.ly/SZvoJe for iPhone On Fri, May 17, 2013 at 2:57 PM, Joe Bunik jbu...@gmail.com javascript: wrote: No real horses in this race, but 1) Atlas is a stout rim 2) Pacenti (PL23 i presume???) is a weight-weenie rim 3) Synergy, what's the problem again??? 4) A23: the great unknown, to me. On 5/17/13, Garth gart...@gmail.com javascript: wrote: My experience has shown that a wider rim with the same tire results in the same, if not slightly lower profile(height) tire. It definitely does not get taller ! On Friday, May 17, 2013 4:30:36 PM UTC-4, Michael wrote: Here are the answers to the questions you all had. A: My rims are fine now. I don't want to upgrade yet, but will whenever they need it. That's why I wanted to know. Maybe by then there will be something new on the market anyway. A: I don't want the Atlases because I use 40mm wide tires and any wider and they won't fit under my Longboards. I am under the impression that the same tire on a wider rim will be wider when inflated. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com javascript:. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.comjavascript:. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com javascript:. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.comjavascript:. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: What is the Rivish upgrade from Synergy rims?
He wanted 650B rims. Velocity made a run of Dyads in 650B ( I have a set) but they are no longer available. The Atlas is the closest thing. ~mike On Sunday, May 19, 2013 9:57:35 AM UTC-7, charlie wrote: Not sure if Dyad rims are available in sizes other than 700c but I like mine fine and I am 260 lbs. I use Delta Cruiser tires however so they are only about 36mm wide at around 75-80 psi. I'd prefer wider but not enough room under the fenders with my Hillborne. The Dyad rim was recommended to me by Rich at Riv. I'd just call them and get a recommendation. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: What is the Rivish upgrade from Synergy rims?
I had to get a replacement Synergy OCR rim from Velocity because the original rim cracked around several of the eyelets. I've also found that the Synergy rims in 650b are not very consistent in their diameter. Different Synergy rims that I've purchased at different times have varied in outer diameter by more than half a millimetre, and this difference causes quite a difference in the difficulty of getting tyres to mount without wobble. On some Synergy rims I have no problem getting a tyre to mount true, and on other rims it's a real battle to get the same tyre to mount without substantial wobble. On Saturday, 18 May 2013 07:57:51 UTC+10, jbu...@gmail.com wrote: No real horses in this race, but 1) Atlas is a stout rim 2) Pacenti (PL23 i presume???) is a weight-weenie rim 3) Synergy, what's the problem again??? 4) A23: the great unknown, to me. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: What is the Rivish upgrade from Synergy rims?
The Atlas is like a beefed-up Synergy; the A23 is like a lighter Dyad. I haven't had any problems from my Synergies, but I like my A23 rims, and intend to keep building on them now. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: What is the Rivish upgrade from Synergy rims?
I like my A23 rims (650b) that I got from Anthony @ Longleaf; I wish the Dyad was still available in 650b, tho' The Atlas looks like it would be an 'upgrade', but it's going to be wider, tho'... On Thursday, May 16, 2013 11:47:09 PM UTC-4, Michael wrote: Don't want a wider rim. Same size 650b. What's a good upgrade? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: What is the Rivish upgrade from Synergy rims?
On Thursday, May 16, 2013 8:47:09 PM UTC-7, Michael wrote: What's a good upgrade? What's wrong with Synergy's that you think they need to be upgraded? They are the favorite rim of RBW's wheel builder, so I'm not sure what could be more Riv-ish. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: What is the Rivish upgrade from Synergy rims?
Made in the USA, too! I also have A23s. And one remaining Aerohead. (more than one 650B bike...) On Thursday, May 16, 2013 8:47:09 PM UTC-7, Michael wrote: Don't want a wider rim. Same size 650b. What's a good upgrade? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: What is the Rivish upgrade from Synergy rims?
I'm with the Jims! I have two pairs of riv-built synergy rims on a 2006 saluki and a 2008 protobleriot. no cracks, no problems, no need for an upgrade. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: What is the Rivish upgrade from Synergy rims?
I know cracking around the eyelets is/was? an issue but it cant be that every set of synergy rims are cracking around the eyelets. Was it only an issue with the Non-symmetrical rear setup? Mine have carried my generously large body for a while with no issues, granted I only do about 1k miles a year but it is on NYC streets so they aren't babied. On Fri, May 17, 2013 at 2:32 PM, Liesl li...@smm.org wrote: I'm with the Jims! I have two pairs of riv-built synergy rims on a 2006 saluki and a 2008 protobleriot. no cracks, no problems, no need for an upgrade. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: What is the Rivish upgrade from Synergy rims?
Here are the answers to the questions you all had. A: My rims are fine now. I don't want to upgrade yet, but will whenever they need it. That's why I wanted to know. Maybe by then there will be something new on the market anyway. A: I don't want the Atlases because I use 40mm wide tires and any wider and they won't fit under my Longboards. I am under the impression that the same tire on a wider rim will be wider when inflated. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: What is the Rivish upgrade from Synergy rims?
On Fri, 2013-05-17 at 13:30 -0700, Michael wrote: A: I don't want the Atlases because I use 40mm wide tires and any wider and they won't fit under my Longboards. I am under the impression that the same tire on a wider rim will be wider when inflated. We should get empiric confirmation of the actual width of a Hetre mounted on an Atlas rim. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: What is the Rivish upgrade from Synergy rims?
My experience has shown that a wider rim with the same tire results in the same, if not slightly lower profile(height) tire. It definitely does not get taller ! On Friday, May 17, 2013 4:30:36 PM UTC-4, Michael wrote: Here are the answers to the questions you all had. A: My rims are fine now. I don't want to upgrade yet, but will whenever they need it. That's why I wanted to know. Maybe by then there will be something new on the market anyway. A: I don't want the Atlases because I use 40mm wide tires and any wider and they won't fit under my Longboards. I am under the impression that the same tire on a wider rim will be wider when inflated. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: What is the Rivish upgrade from Synergy rims?
No real horses in this race, but 1) Atlas is a stout rim 2) Pacenti (PL23 i presume???) is a weight-weenie rim 3) Synergy, what's the problem again??? 4) A23: the great unknown, to me. On 5/17/13, Garth garth...@gmail.com wrote: My experience has shown that a wider rim with the same tire results in the same, if not slightly lower profile(height) tire. It definitely does not get taller ! On Friday, May 17, 2013 4:30:36 PM UTC-4, Michael wrote: Here are the answers to the questions you all had. A: My rims are fine now. I don't want to upgrade yet, but will whenever they need it. That's why I wanted to know. Maybe by then there will be something new on the market anyway. A: I don't want the Atlases because I use 40mm wide tires and any wider and they won't fit under my Longboards. I am under the impression that the same tire on a wider rim will be wider when inflated. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: What is the Rivish upgrade from Synergy rims?
Red Hetres on Atlas rim: Front 40.5mm / Rear 41.6mm. Difference is likely due to having a higher pressure on the rear tire. René — Sent from Mailbox for iPhone On Fri, May 17, 2013 at 1:51 PM, Steve Palincsar palin...@his.com wrote: On Fri, 2013-05-17 at 13:30 -0700, Michael wrote: A: I don't want the Atlases because I use 40mm wide tires and any wider and they won't fit under my Longboards. I am under the impression that the same tire on a wider rim will be wider when inflated. We should get empiric confirmation of the actual width of a Hetre mounted on an Atlas rim. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: What is the Rivish upgrade from Synergy rims?
Forgot to add that front Atlas rim is 32 holes and rear is 36. Should be irrelevant, but just in case. External rim width is the same for both: 25.5mm René — Sent from Mailbox for iPhone On Fri, May 17, 2013 at 2:57 PM, Joe Bunik jbu...@gmail.com wrote: No real horses in this race, but 1) Atlas is a stout rim 2) Pacenti (PL23 i presume???) is a weight-weenie rim 3) Synergy, what's the problem again??? 4) A23: the great unknown, to me. On 5/17/13, Garth garth...@gmail.com wrote: My experience has shown that a wider rim with the same tire results in the same, if not slightly lower profile(height) tire. It definitely does not get taller ! On Friday, May 17, 2013 4:30:36 PM UTC-4, Michael wrote: Here are the answers to the questions you all had. A: My rims are fine now. I don't want to upgrade yet, but will whenever they need it. That's why I wanted to know. Maybe by then there will be something new on the market anyway. A: I don't want the Atlases because I use 40mm wide tires and any wider and they won't fit under my Longboards. I am under the impression that the same tire on a wider rim will be wider when inflated. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: What is the Rivish upgrade from Synergy rims?
Pacenti PL23 On Thursday, May 16, 2013 11:47:09 PM UTC-4, Michael wrote: Don't want a wider rim. Same size 650b. What's a good upgrade? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: What is the Rivish upgrade from Synergy rims?
On Fri, 2013-05-17 at 17:22 -0700, René Sterental wrote: Red Hetres on Atlas rim: Front 40.5mm / Rear 41.6mm. Difference is likely due to having a higher pressure on the rear tire. Thank you! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.