[RBW] Re: Would you go back to a 5-speed cassette if you could?
Dear Sam, 1. No. 2. yes, or the gearing consistent with a 30T rear cog, anyway. 3. yes, but why do that to yourself unless you're looking to make a half-step system work well, esp. given that 8s cassettes fit your rivendell freehub anyway, and they're easy to friction shift? Or, if you're looking to be modern, 10 of 11 on the back with an STI/Ergo lever? 4. I ride with sub-30T 10s cassettes anyway. I adjust my chainring range to match my gearing needs. Best, Will William M. deRosset Fort Collins, CO On Sunday, August 9, 2015 at 10:35:14 PM UTC-6, Lungimsam wrote: For those of you who rode back on the days of 39/50 and sub30T rear 5 and 6 speed cassettes: 1. Would you go back to a sub-30T 5-speed cassette if you could, now that you have ridden with 30+ T cogs in modern cassettes? 2. Was anyone riding 30+t cogs back in the day? Seems like sub30 was the standard. 3. Could I use Compass Cycles' 5 and 6 speed cassettes on my Rivendells with enough spacers on the freehub to make up for the extra space? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Would you go back to a 5-speed cassette if you could?
And if that's your intention, the 7-speed K cassette (13-34) half-steps with 44/48 chain rings. On 08/11/2015 02:07 PM, William deRosset wrote: 3. yes, but why do that to yourself unless you're looking to make a half-step system work well, esp. given that 8s cassettes fit your rivendell freehub anyway, and they're easy to friction shift? Or, if you're looking to be modern, 10 of 11 on the back with an STI/Ergo lever? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Would you go back to a 5-speed cassette if you could?
I like to go where the mass market is, because it's where there's the highest efficiency of scale and least expensive parts. For me at the moment, that means 9 speed. 8 speed is not any less expensive, so I'll take the higher cog count. 7 speed is rarer these days, and rare doesn't meet my criteria. When I can buy 10 speed stuff at the same price as 9 speed, I'll probably go that route when it becomes time to replace the shifters. Until then sticking with 9 speed. It works fine. On Mon, Aug 10, 2015 at 4:25 PM, Garth garth...@gmail.com wrote: My take on all parts bicycle is that if you have it or it's available , it's as current as current can be . The orignal lightbulb still burns in a California firehouse . It's as it ever was . Time and date are but myths . There's nothing to count but counting itself ! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Keep the metal side up and the rubber side down! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Would you go back to a 5-speed cassette if you could?
Does Phil Wood still make a freewheel hub? Royce still makes an FW Hub http://www.royceuk.co.uk/Rear-Hub-Screw-On-for-Single-Speed-or-Gear-Block.html. Definitely as good if not better than Phil Priced around the same. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Would you go back to a 5-speed cassette if you could?
For pictures more info on this cassette: http://blog.jonesbikes.com/6-speed-cassettes/ On 08/10/2015 10:53 AM, Matthew J wrote: Jeff Jones of Jones Bike a while back modified 9 speed cassettes into 6 speed that in turn could be used with single speed Chris King and similar MTB hubs. Meaning you can build a dishless rear wheel that nonetheless offers a range of gears. Paired my Jones cassette with a single 44 up front on thebike https://www.flickr.com/photos/22538785@N05/sets/72157644990725641 I use for fully loaded camping trips. Works great for me. Can not imagine using any other set up for this kind of riding. Wish Mr. Jones would go back to making these. Or if his book of business is too packed (would not be surprised if so) perhaps he could share his process with someone else. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Would you go back to a 5-speed cassette if you could?
Ah shucks . . . lol . . . for SS only and not in 135mm length though . Paul however does ! The Jono hub, it's 32 hole only though . http://www.paulcomp.com/jonohub.html *What makes the Jono Hub unique is its quick-release axle which features changeable end caps. This system allows the Jono Hub to work with five, six, seven and even some eight speed freewheels. The modular axle can fit frames with axle spacings from 121mm all the way to 135mm. It comes as a kit with all necessary fittings for assembly with a variety of chainline and axle width measurements.* On Monday, August 10, 2015 at 10:58:26 AM UTC-4, Matthew J wrote: Does Phil Wood still make a freewheel hub? Royce still makes an FW Hub http://www.royceuk.co.uk/Rear-Hub-Screw-On-for-Single-Speed-or-Gear-Block.html. Definitely as good if not better than Phil Priced around the same. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Would you go back to a 5-speed cassette if you could?
I agree. I'd be happy with 7, or 6, or 5. Segmenting further makes sense if you are riding a pace-line with the club, but fror recreational, or commuting cycling, not so much. It would be wonderful to go back to less complex, intelligently spaced, cassettes. This new business of 1x11 suggests that simplifying the drivetrain is a consumer desire. I'd like a 2 ring front and a 5-6-7 cassette in back. Actually, I'd be happy with a 5 speed internal hub. On Monday, August 10, 2015 at 7:06:06 AM UTC-5, Garth wrote: 1. and 2. 5 speed ? Maybe , but 6 , definitely. I like others here still recall when 5 and 6 speed was the normal freewheel . I never felt out of gears then , nor today. I have right now on my Bombadil a Sachs 13-28 6-speed FW with a 24/36/48 crank. Even with some the steep hills around here , I rarely if ever even shift into the 24 ring . 3. The Compass CS are nothing special and to a bit overpriced for what they are . Anyone can make up a custom CS to as many or few cogs as they like . If someone made a 135mm CS hub for 6 or 7 speed I'd certainly be interested . I have no use for 8sp , just too much shifting . Yes, you can use a spacer blah blah blah, but it's not the same thing. I'm not one who needs a gear every 5 inches as I find varying cadence and intensity instead of shifting all the time very refreshing . I'm not a damn machine ! On Monday, August 10, 2015 at 12:35:14 AM UTC-4, Lungimsam wrote: For those of you who rode back on the days of 39/50 and sub30T rear 5 and 6 speed cassettes: 1. Would you go back to a sub-30T 5-speed cassette if you could, now that you have ridden with 30+ T cogs in modern cassettes? 2. Was anyone riding 30+t cogs back in the day? Seems like sub30 was the standard. 3. Could I use Compass Cycles' 5 and 6 speed cassettes on my Rivendells with enough spacers on the freehub to make up for the extra space? On Monday, August 10, 2015 at 12:35:14 AM UTC-4, Lungimsam wrote: For those of you who rode back on the days of 39/50 and sub30T rear 5 and 6 speed cassettes: 1. Would you go back to a sub-30T 5-speed cassette if you could, now that you have ridden with 30+ T cogs in modern cassettes? 2. Was anyone riding 30+t cogs back in the day? Seems like sub30 was the standard. 3. Could I use Compass Cycles' 5 and 6 speed cassettes on my Rivendells with enough spacers on the freehub to make up for the extra space? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Would you go back to a 5-speed cassette if you could?
Yes Will , I see no reason why this cannot be done . FW , CS , internal hubs . . . it's all good ! There are so many bicycles worldwide no one knows . There's always the cutting edge for those that want it, but many people have had enough of upgrade-itis . We want permanence , stability . Marketing . . .. hmmm . Doesn't matter how a product is marketed if at all. * Build it and they will come .* Yep. ... literally out-of-the-cornfield ! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Would you go back to a 5-speed cassette if you could?
Jeff Jones of Jones Bike a while back modified 9 speed cassettes into 6 speed that in turn could be used with single speed Chris King and similar MTB hubs. Meaning you can build a dishless rear wheel that nonetheless offers a range of gears. Paired my Jones cassette with a single 44 up front on the bike https://www.flickr.com/photos/22538785@N05/sets/72157644990725641 I use for fully loaded camping trips. Works great for me. Can not imagine using any other set up for this kind of riding. Wish Mr. Jones would go back to making these. Or if his book of business is too packed (would not be surprised if so) perhaps he could share his process with someone else. On Sunday, August 9, 2015 at 11:35:14 PM UTC-5, Lungimsam wrote: For those of you who rode back on the days of 39/50 and sub30T rear 5 and 6 speed cassettes: 1. Would you go back to a sub-30T 5-speed cassette if you could, now that you have ridden with 30+ T cogs in modern cassettes? 2. Was anyone riding 30+t cogs back in the day? Seems like sub30 was the standard. 3. Could I use Compass Cycles' 5 and 6 speed cassettes on my Rivendells with enough spacers on the freehub to make up for the extra space? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Would you go back to a 5-speed cassette if you could?
Marketing . . .. hmmm . Doesn't matter how a product is marketed if at all. * Build it and they will come .* Yep. ... literally out-of-the-cornfield ! I would certainly be interested in a lighter Rohloff with less gear range. Just I think much of the market for that hub is looking for maximum range. Also, it could be going from 14 to 5 IGH would not make all that much difference weight wise? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Would you go back to a 5-speed cassette if you could?
I know that Jan found a new Rohloff to have considerable drag in at least certain gears. Can anyone say how the drag compares to a good derailleur setup, once the hub's inwards have been worn in? I too think that a lighter, perhaps lower-drag, Rohloff quality internal gear hub would be worth a $K or so, though I'd probably argue with other users about the ratios. Me, I'd like exactly 50 60 65 70 80 but I suppose that, given the physical nature of epicyclics you can't simply choose what ratios you get. (I know that the aforesaid gear inches would depend on the ring and cog and wheel diameter.) Patrick Ptolemy was wrong about epicyclics, but did a damned good job with them in saving the phenomena nonetheless Moore On Mon, Aug 10, 2015 at 10:49 AM, Matthew J matthewj...@gmail.com wrote: Marketing . . .. hmmm . Doesn't matter how a product is marketed if at all. * Build it and they will come .* Yep. ... literally out-of-the-cornfield ! I would certainly be interested in a lighter Rohloff with less gear range. Just I think much of the market for that hub is looking for maximum range. Also, it could be going from 14 to 5 IGH would not make all that much difference weight wise? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Resumes, LinkedIn profiles, bios, and letters that get interviews. By-the-hour resume and LinkedIn coaching. Other professional writing services. http://www.resumespecialties.com/ www.linkedin.com/in/patrickmooreresumespec/ Patrick Moore Alburquerque, Nouvelle Mexique, Vereinigte Staaten * *The point which is the pivot of the norm is the motionless center of a circumference on the rim of which all conditions, distinctions, and individualities revolve. *Chuang Tzu *Kinei hos eromenon. It moves as the being-loved. *Aristotle *The Love that moves the Sun and all the other stars. *Dante -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Would you go back to a 5-speed cassette if you could?
My Atlantis in roadie mode had a 12-23 cassette, but with a TA Zephyr 46/34/22 rings. Remember Campy triples ?, ahhh micro ratchet front shifters. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Would you go back to a 5-speed cassette if you could?
I am remembering one of my favorite bikes... a Raleigh Super Tourer (1976). It was a Raleigh Competition frame, with upright North Road bars, a 5 ring cluster in the rear, no front der... a delightful town cruiser: 531 double butted, fast, nimble, fun. It came w/ 5 and 10 speed options. 10 speed was a 2 ring front chain wheel. The 5 was simple and just right. It was the best bike I rode until an Atlantis sailed into my life... On Monday, August 10, 2015 at 11:05:15 AM UTC-5, Garth wrote: Yes Will , I see no reason why this cannot be done . FW , CS , internal hubs . . . it's all good ! There are so many bicycles worldwide no one knows . There's always the cutting edge for those that want it, but many people have had enough of upgrade-itis . We want permanence , stability . Marketing . . .. hmmm . Doesn't matter how a product is marketed if at all. * Build it and they will come .* Yep. ... literally out-of-the-cornfield ! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Would you go back to a 5-speed cassette if you could?
Thanks Steve. When I first saw the link got all excited only to realize the linked blog entry is from 2012. Jeff mentions the longer Shimano limit screw he would send out with the cassette. I use an original Deer Head Deore rear derailer with mine. No problem with it shifting into the spokes. And while I have indexed Shimano shifter, I set it up to work in friction mode. I know what gear I am in. Maybe if I were using the bike for competitive off roading I would go indexed. On Monday, August 10, 2015 at 9:58:58 AM UTC-5, Steve Palincsar wrote: For pictures more info on this cassette: http://blog.jonesbikes.com/6-speed-cassettes/ On 08/10/2015 10:53 AM, Matthew J wrote: Jeff Jones of Jones Bike a while back modified 9 speed cassettes into 6 speed that in turn could be used with single speed Chris King and similar MTB hubs. Meaning you can build a dishless rear wheel that nonetheless offers a range of gears. Paired my Jones cassette with a single 44 up front on the bike https://www.flickr.com/photos/22538785@N05/sets/72157644990725641 I use for fully loaded camping trips. Works great for me. Can not imagine using any other set up for this kind of riding. Wish Mr. Jones would go back to making these. Or if his book of business is too packed (would not be surprised if so) perhaps he could share his process with someone else. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Would you go back to a 5-speed cassette if you could?
Actually, I'd be happy with a 5 speed internal hub. Imagine it would be hard to market, but I imagine a modern Rohloff or Alfine quality IGH with the weight savings of 5 speeds. On Monday, August 10, 2015 at 10:23:01 AM UTC-5, Will wrote: I agree. I'd be happy with 7, or 6, or 5. Segmenting further makes sense if you are riding a pace-line with the club, but fror recreational, or commuting cycling, not so much. It would be wonderful to go back to less complex, intelligently spaced, cassettes. This new business of 1x11 suggests that simplifying the drivetrain is a consumer desire. I'd like a 2 ring front and a 5-6-7 cassette in back. Actually, I'd be happy with a 5 speed internal hub. On Monday, August 10, 2015 at 7:06:06 AM UTC-5, Garth wrote: 1. and 2. 5 speed ? Maybe , but 6 , definitely. I like others here still recall when 5 and 6 speed was the normal freewheel . I never felt out of gears then , nor today. I have right now on my Bombadil a Sachs 13-28 6-speed FW with a 24/36/48 crank. Even with some the steep hills around here , I rarely if ever even shift into the 24 ring . 3. The Compass CS are nothing special and to a bit overpriced for what they are . Anyone can make up a custom CS to as many or few cogs as they like . If someone made a 135mm CS hub for 6 or 7 speed I'd certainly be interested . I have no use for 8sp , just too much shifting . Yes, you can use a spacer blah blah blah, but it's not the same thing. I'm not one who needs a gear every 5 inches as I find varying cadence and intensity instead of shifting all the time very refreshing . I'm not a damn machine ! On Monday, August 10, 2015 at 12:35:14 AM UTC-4, Lungimsam wrote: For those of you who rode back on the days of 39/50 and sub30T rear 5 and 6 speed cassettes: 1. Would you go back to a sub-30T 5-speed cassette if you could, now that you have ridden with 30+ T cogs in modern cassettes? 2. Was anyone riding 30+t cogs back in the day? Seems like sub30 was the standard. 3. Could I use Compass Cycles' 5 and 6 speed cassettes on my Rivendells with enough spacers on the freehub to make up for the extra space? On Monday, August 10, 2015 at 12:35:14 AM UTC-4, Lungimsam wrote: For those of you who rode back on the days of 39/50 and sub30T rear 5 and 6 speed cassettes: 1. Would you go back to a sub-30T 5-speed cassette if you could, now that you have ridden with 30+ T cogs in modern cassettes? 2. Was anyone riding 30+t cogs back in the day? Seems like sub30 was the standard. 3. Could I use Compass Cycles' 5 and 6 speed cassettes on my Rivendells with enough spacers on the freehub to make up for the extra space? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Would you go back to a 5-speed cassette if you could?
I'm still stuck in the 70's on half my bikes. My Hetchins is 48/36 with a 14-28 5 speed freewheel in back...love riding this bike. My Paramount has what I consider my favorite gear combo49/44/28 with a 14-30 5 speed in back. With the half-step gearing I can get any gear needed including a good hill climbing range. Recently I've been putting a lot of miles on 77 Trek with a 6 speed freewheel 14-28 and a 46/28 up front. I also have bikes with 7,8, and 9 speed cassettes so I'm not a total gear curmudgeon...slowly easing into the 2000's. When I do ride my 9 speed cassette (Riv Custom 46/ 30 11-32) I never use the big or the little cogs so i wonder to myself why bother with more. I've never broken a freewheel axle and have a drawer full of freewheels so I won't be jumping ship soon. I like how Jack Taylor sums it up in the first minute of this clip...they've gone berserkyou don't which one you need ya know. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ALNsQpCL8LY Rob Markwardt On Sunday, August 9, 2015 at 9:35:14 PM UTC-7, Lungimsam wrote: For those of you who rode back on the days of 39/50 and sub30T rear 5 and 6 speed cassettes: 1. Would you go back to a sub-30T 5-speed cassette if you could, now that you have ridden with 30+ T cogs in modern cassettes? 2. Was anyone riding 30+t cogs back in the day? Seems like sub30 was the standard. 3. Could I use Compass Cycles' 5 and 6 speed cassettes on my Rivendells with enough spacers on the freehub to make up for the extra space? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Would you go back to a 5-speed cassette if you could?
My take on all parts bicycle is that if you have it or it's available , it's as current as current can be . The orignal lightbulb still burns in a California firehouse . It's as it ever was . Time and date are but myths . There's nothing to count but counting itself ! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Would you go back to a 5-speed cassette if you could?
On 08/10/2015 08:27 AM, Garth wrote: Also , if you really want to run 5 or 6 speeds, I'd recommend a dedicated FW hub and have a wheel built. Phil Wood has both 6 and 7 speed FW hubs. I use a 6 on my 7 on one bike , 7 on the other. You can still get decent albeit lower end Shimano 14-28 6sp FW's for under $15. IRD also recently released re-engineered Classica FW's in a host of ranges from 5 to 7 speed. Does Phil Wood still make a freewheel hub? I was just looking at their web site and could find only cassette rear hubs. Also, if you were starting from scratch and having a new wheel built with a new hub, it may be worth considering the improvements to be gained in the cassette design. There is a reason freewheel hubs went out of style: problems such as bent and broken axles and difficulty in removing freewheels that are solved in the freehub design. Of course, if period-correctness is important, then one should definitely stick with freewheels. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Would you go back to a 5-speed cassette if you could?
Yep Steve, scroll down their hub page a bit , it'll say : Phil Wood offers the following types of hub: - ROAD, freewheel and cassette rear options - TOURING, freewheel and cassette rear options - TANDEM, 6-bolt disc brake and drum brake options - MOUNTAIN, standard and 6-bolt disc brake options - KISS-OFF (single-speed) mountain, standard and 6-bolt disc brake options - TRACK, single-fixed, double-fixed, fixed-free options - BMX (freewheel) - WHEELCHAIR As far a FW-CS debate , c'mon . . . .who's limitations are we arguing for but our own ? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Would you go back to a 5-speed cassette if you could?
ps, '77 Raleighs came with a 14-35t 5-speed, and I hated the thing because
every step was a cliff.
My first rebuild ('79) was around a Zeus/Rigida wheelset with a 14-26t
5-speed, and I liked it much better
2. Was anyone riding 30+t cogs back in the day? Seems like sub30 was the
standard.
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[RBW] Re: Would you go back to a 5-speed cassette if you could?
I'm with Patrick in that I prefer single-tooth jumps in my cruising range but I also prefer a wide gear range and a 1x drivetrain so that pretty much requires a 9-speed or higher cog. On Sunday, August 9, 2015 at 11:35:14 PM UTC-5, Lungimsam wrote: For those of you who rode back on the days of 39/50 and sub30T rear 5 and 6 speed cassettes: 1. Would you go back to a sub-30T 5-speed cassette if you could, now that you have ridden with 30+ T cogs in modern cassettes? 2. Was anyone riding 30+t cogs back in the day? Seems like sub30 was the standard. 3. Could I use Compass Cycles' 5 and 6 speed cassettes on my Rivendells with enough spacers on the freehub to make up for the extra space? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Would you go back to a 5-speed cassette if you could?
Also , if you really want to run 5 or 6 speeds, I'd recommend a dedicated FW hub and have a wheel built. Phil Wood has both 6 and 7 speed FW hubs. I use a 6 on my 7 on one bike , 7 on the other. You can still get decent albeit lower end Shimano 14-28 6sp FW's for under $15. IRD also recently released re-engineered Classica FW's in a host of ranges from 5 to 7 speed. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Would you go back to a 5-speed cassette if you could?
1. and 2. 5 speed ? Maybe , but 6 , definitely. I like others here still recall when 5 and 6 speed was the normal freewheel . I never felt out of gears then , nor today. I have right now on my Bombadil a Sachs 13-28 6-speed FW with a 24/36/48 crank. Even with some the steep hills around here , I rarely if ever even shift into the 24 ring . 3. The Compass CS are nothing special and to a bit overpriced for what they are . Anyone can make up a custom CS to as many or few cogs as they like . If someone made a 135mm CS hub for 6 or 7 speed I'd certainly be interested . I have no use for 8sp , just too much shifting . Yes, you can use a spacer blah blah blah, but it's not the same thing. I'm not one who needs a gear every 5 inches as I find varying cadence and intensity instead of shifting all the time very refreshing . I'm not a damn machine ! On Monday, August 10, 2015 at 12:35:14 AM UTC-4, Lungimsam wrote: For those of you who rode back on the days of 39/50 and sub30T rear 5 and 6 speed cassettes: 1. Would you go back to a sub-30T 5-speed cassette if you could, now that you have ridden with 30+ T cogs in modern cassettes? 2. Was anyone riding 30+t cogs back in the day? Seems like sub30 was the standard. 3. Could I use Compass Cycles' 5 and 6 speed cassettes on my Rivendells with enough spacers on the freehub to make up for the extra space? On Monday, August 10, 2015 at 12:35:14 AM UTC-4, Lungimsam wrote: For those of you who rode back on the days of 39/50 and sub30T rear 5 and 6 speed cassettes: 1. Would you go back to a sub-30T 5-speed cassette if you could, now that you have ridden with 30+ T cogs in modern cassettes? 2. Was anyone riding 30+t cogs back in the day? Seems like sub30 was the standard. 3. Could I use Compass Cycles' 5 and 6 speed cassettes on my Rivendells with enough spacers on the freehub to make up for the extra space? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Would you go back to a 5-speed cassette if you could?
I don't know about sub-30, but a 5-speed with a good range would be fine in the hilly area I live. I tend to skip cogs on 8- and 9-speed cassettes because the small jumps are useless to me. On Sunday, August 9, 2015 at 9:35:14 PM UTC-7, Lungimsam wrote: For those of you who rode back on the days of 39/50 and sub30T rear 5 and 6 speed cassettes: 1. Would you go back to a sub-30T 5-speed cassette if you could, now that you have ridden with 30+ T cogs in modern cassettes? 2. Was anyone riding 30+t cogs back in the day? Seems like sub30 was the standard. 3. Could I use Compass Cycles' 5 and 6 speed cassettes on my Rivendells with enough spacers on the freehub to make up for the extra space? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
