[RBW] Re: another plug for MUSA
Same here. I gave up the diapers two years ago with my first B-17 saddle on a new Bleriot. That was in early October of '07 and did the Claxton Century in November. Not a problem. Plain old cotton skivvies and whatever loose fitting pair of shorts I have. Haven't worn diaper shorts since. Guess we're just a couple hard asses Patrick. Stan Columbia, SC - Original Message - From: PATRICK MOORE To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, June 28, 2009 12:38 AM Subject: [RBW] Re: another plug for MUSA This is an excellent example of YMMV. I ride up to 35 miles in ordinary trousers (knickers, either cotton or wool in winter, regular shorts in summer) with any old cotton underwear, and I have no problems down there at all. I have found that my anatomy *does* like Flites. And, of course, we have low humidity; but that certainly doesn't stop me from sweating a lot. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: another plug for MUSA
I usually wear the MUSA green shorts (which are excellent) w/ the hanes or icebreaker product. But for longer rides, these are pretty good: http://www.andiamounderwear.com/ --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: another plug for MUSA
If I want a padded liner (like when breaking a new Brooks - but not a Selle An Atomica) the Zoic units from their MTB line are hands down better than the Andiamo, which I also have a sample of. From: Rick richardholc...@yahoo.com To: RBW Owners Bunch rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, June 28, 2009 6:46:03 AM Subject: [RBW] Re: another plug for MUSA I usually wear the MUSA green shorts (which are excellent) w/ the hanes or icebreaker product. But for longer rides, these are pretty good: http://www.andiamounderwear.com/ --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: another plug for MUSA
This is an excellent example of YMMV. I ride up to 35 miles in ordinary trousers (knickers, either cotton or wool in winter, regular shorts in summer) with any old cotton underwear, and I have no problems down there at all. I have found that my anatomy *does* like Flites. And, of course, we have low humidity; but that certainly doesn't stop me from sweating a lot. I used to keep a stash of nylon boxers, but I've discovered that, if your pants aren't too tight and your saddle is set up correctly, then I, at least, can be perfectly comfortable with your Target FOTLs,brief or boxer. No gloves, either. Lucky me! Note that tightish pants do dramatically increase crotchal discomfort (using a BSNYC technical term). On Tue, Jun 23, 2009 at 8:52 PM, Bruce fullylug...@yahoo.com wrote: Depends on what underwear you wear. I find wool boxers to be great under MUSA shorts and eschew chamois unless I'm on an as yet unbroken in leather saddle. The thin merino shorts from RBW are excellent when you want something light. I have a couple of pairs of these. http://www.rivbike.com/products/list/clothing?a=1page=4#product=22-606 And there are offerings from Ibex and other places to look at as well. I've had great service from UK Army surplus boxers: Undyed wool, and I had to use a safety pin to keep the fly closed while riding. YMMV http://www.northdoorway.com/ProductInfo.aspx?id=3402373 In non wool, these Champion Active Fit briefs (got mine for less at Costco) are surprisingly good. http://www.boxerbriefs.com/eshop/10browse.asp?category=Champion I agree on the Bag Balm or other friction reducer on rides over about 10 miles. -- *From:* GeorgeS chobur...@gmail.com *To:* RBW Owners Bunch rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com *Sent:* Tuesday, June 23, 2009 9:02:57 PM *Subject:* [RBW] Re: another plug for MUSA That said, these things are designed for use with underwear. If I'm going to be on a bike for more than an hour, I don't want underwear. I want chamoi (sp?) or it's new-age equivalent and a load of goop. Nothing worse than a wad of underwear in the wrong place and you've still got 40 miles to go. -- Patrick Moore Albuquerque, NM Professional Resumes. Contact resumespecialt...@gmail.com --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: another plug for MUSA
OK. I'll give the wool one's a try. My wife may not recognize me outside of Jockey cotton briefs which I've been wearing since I've been wearing underwear. G On Jun 23, 10:52 pm, Bruce fullylug...@yahoo.com wrote: Depends on what underwear you wear. I find wool boxers to be great under MUSA shorts and eschew chamois unless I'm on an as yet unbroken in leather saddle. The thin merino shorts from RBW are excellent when you want something light. I have a couple of pairs of these. http://www.rivbike.com/products/list/clothing?a=1page=4#product=22-606 And there are offerings from Ibex and other places to look at as well. I've had great service from UK Army surplus boxers: Undyed wool, and I had to use a safety pin to keep the fly closed while riding. YMMV http://www.northdoorway.com/ProductInfo.aspx?id=3402373 In non wool, these Champion Active Fit briefs (got mine for less at Costco) are surprisingly good. http://www.boxerbriefs.com/eshop/10browse.asp?category=Champion I agree on the Bag Balm or other friction reducer on rides over about 10 miles. From: GeorgeS chobur...@gmail.com To: RBW Owners Bunch rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 2009 9:02:57 PM Subject: [RBW] Re: another plug for MUSA That said, these thingsare designed for use with underwear. If I'm going to be on a bike for more than an hour, I don't want underwear. I want chamoi (sp?) or it's new-age equivalent and a load of goop. Nothing worse than a wad of underwear in the wrong place and you've still got 40 miles to go. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: another plug for MUSA
I tour and do long day rides on a B17 saddle with MUSA shorts and loose, cotton knit boxers (Hanes?). Saddle soreness is never an issue. I never would have believed this possible back in my bike shop days, when I recommended padded shorts for any kind of serous riding... What a bunch of hooey! I think the key is to go big and loose both on the shorts and boxers in order to stay cool and comfy. I've got a size 36 waist but ride with some big-ass boxers (size 40!) and size XL MUSA's. My kids make jokes when I'm folding laundry (serious tent-size proportions), but what price comfort? Probably shared more detail than y'all wanted to hear ;-) -br On Jun 24, 3:55 am, GeorgeS chobur...@gmail.com wrote: OK. I'll give the wool one's a try. My wife may not recognize me outside of Jockey cotton briefs which I've been wearing since I've been wearing underwear. G --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: another plug for MUSA
The biggest problem I have with this floppy pantleg or loose, open shirt approach is the occasional bee that gets filtered in while riding here in the NE. That's an experience you don't forget and one that doesn't happen with those real bike clothes (tighter openings). Yes, I have to pull over and remove my helmet once in awhile also but I've only been stung under loose shirts and shorts. I still wear both types of clothing depending on what type of riding I'm doing on a given day. om wrote: From: Bill Rhea billr...@yahoo.com Subject: [RBW] Re: another plug for MUSA To: RBW Owners Bunch rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Date: Wednesday, June 24, 2009, 1:30 PM I tour and do long day rides on a B17 saddle with MUSA shorts and loose, cotton knit boxers (Hanes?). Saddle soreness is never an issue. I never would have believed this possible back in my bike shop days, when I recommended padded shorts for any kind of serous riding... What a bunch of hooey! I think the key is to go big and loose both on the shorts and boxers in order to stay cool and comfy. I've got a size 36 waist but ride with some big-ass boxers (size 40!) and size XL MUSA's. My kids make jokes when I'm folding laundry (serious tent-size proportions), but what price comfort? Probably shared more detail than y'all wanted to hear ;-) -br On Jun 24, 3:55 am, GeorgeS chobur...@gmail.com wrote: OK. I'll give the wool one's a try. My wife may not recognize me outside of Jockey cotton briefs which I've been wearing since I've been wearing underwear. G --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: another plug for MUSA
During a few years riding in the hot and humid conditions of New York's Summer, I found the wool top was great, but generally preferred the coolest option down below - traditional black riding tighties. Knickers are appropriate for Spring and Fall. Best, Seth Los Angeles On Jun 21, 8:47 am, JoelMatthews joelmatth...@mac.com wrote: Any of you MUSA knickers owners from the Midwest or Southeast? I have knickers from Swrve, Richard Reisenberg, Chrome and Swobo. All are good, but all seem designed with West Coast weather in mind. Meaning where it is hot, humidity tends be low, and where it is humid, it usually is not all that hot. The only time we have comparable conditions here in the upper Midwest is Mid to late September through early November. Spring is almost always too cold for any knickers. Summer just gets too hot and humid. The Patagonia shorts I use in the Summer are comfortable. But Patagonia does not make (decent riding anyway) shorts that cover the knees. As sun screen does not seem to want to stay on knees, that means I usually wind up with sun burn right on the top of the joint. Maybe if the West Coast swell riding clothes designers could spend a couple of hours on a stationary bike in a sauna they could come up with something that works for us suffering souls back East. On Jun 21, 12:12 am, RoadieRyan rya...@hotmail.com wrote: I have been thinking about getting some of the shorts so its good to hear all the positive feedback on them, for those who commented about the need for a back knicker, until there is a musa one you might check out http://www.oregoncyclewear.com/messenger_knickers.html RR On Jun 19, 5:18 pm, PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.com wrote: I just got back from 17 miles mostly off road, much of it sandy, riding in heavy cotton shorts and regular underwear. It never occured to me that I could be uncomfortable. I know that I am fine up to the 30 - 35 miles that is my typical long ride. Cotton polo on top. No gloves, no helmet, Carolyn Custom hat, flip up shades -- need the shades to keep my eyes from getting too red; the cap acts as sun visor and sweat collector. Riv content: My 2008 Redline Monocog 20er is set up as close to Rivendell fashion as I can make it. And I wear the same things, in summer, on my two custom fixed Riv Roads. On Fri, Jun 19, 2009 at 1:45 PM, Bill Rhea billr...@yahoo.com wrote: I saw Grant's June 15 blog plugging the MUSA line. I think he deserves to be enthusiastic about these products and to toot his own horn a bit. I’ve got 3 pairs of MUSA knickers, each from a different production run. While they’re all good, the latest ones hit the ball out of the park in every metric that matter to me: comfort, durability, style, value, and sweat-shop avoidance. The only days I don’t wear them are when I know it’s going to be scorching, then I’ve got MUSA shorts. Are there any new colors on the horizon for the seersucker long sleeves? I walked through Palo Alto Bicycles the other day and was quite frankly appalled at what people spend on spandex shorts and tights. $60 doesn't bring you even close to getting a pair of shorts I guess everyone is entitled to their own tastes, but I'm still a bit puzzled why the vast majority of people I see riding recreationally on the road still cling (no pun) to their Lycra. Only on rare occasions do I see people riding briskly on the road in regular-looking clothes, but certainly never on the weekends where the armies of recreational cyclists congregate on the backroads of Woodside and Portola Valley. I've NEVER seen another human wearing MUSA knickers or shorts here in San Mateo County. Not commuting, not on the weekends. Where is everybody? -br -- Patrick Moore Albuquerque, NM Professional Resumes. Contact resumespecialt...@gmail.com- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: another plug for MUSA
Depends on what underwear you wear. I find wool boxers to be great under MUSA shorts and eschew chamois unless I'm on an as yet unbroken in leather saddle. The thin merino shorts from RBW are excellent when you want something light. I have a couple of pairs of these. http://www.rivbike.com/products/list/clothing?a=1page=4#product=22-606 And there are offerings from Ibex and other places to look at as well. I've had great service from UK Army surplus boxers: Undyed wool, and I had to use a safety pin to keep the fly closed while riding. YMMV http://www.northdoorway.com/ProductInfo.aspx?id=3402373 In non wool, these Champion Active Fit briefs (got mine for less at Costco) are surprisingly good. http://www.boxerbriefs.com/eshop/10browse.asp?category=Champion I agree on the Bag Balm or other friction reducer on rides over about 10 miles. From: GeorgeS chobur...@gmail.com To: RBW Owners Bunch rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 2009 9:02:57 PM Subject: [RBW] Re: another plug for MUSA That said, these thingsare designed for use with underwear. If I'm going to be on a bike for more than an hour, I don't want underwear. I want chamoi (sp?) or it's new-age equivalent and a load of goop. Nothing worse than a wad of underwear in the wrong place and you've still got 40 miles to go. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: another plug for MUSA
Between this posts and Grant's I found myself compelled to order some shorts. I'll probably order a shirt and a pair of pants to take on tour later this summer since they're light and so packable. On Jun 21, 3:26 pm, David Estes cyclotour...@gmail.com wrote: It's interesting that East Coast in general, and NYC specifically doesn't have a bunch of manufacturers... I would think there is a critical mass there. Today was a MUSA day for me! DE On Sun, Jun 21, 2009 at 3:20 PM, JoelMatthews joelmatth...@mac.com wrote: Well there is Ibex in Vermont, but they are primarily known for winter gear. Ibex does make (or more precisely has a factory in China make) organic cotton long shorts. I like wearing natural cloth whenever possible, but if the cotton is too thick, it will be uncomfortable on longer rides. The Midwest and East Coast does not otherwise seem to have the critical mass of bike centric merchandisers you have out West. Certainly the market is here and growing. I imagine one factor is the West Coast entered the bicycle renaissance earlier than we here out East and your companies had too much of a head start - with the web making their stuff easier to get here - for local business to catch on. On Jun 21, 4:55 pm, David Estes cyclotour...@gmail.com wrote: Serious question: aren't there any bike clothing designers on the East Coast? It seems like they would be more apt to design appropriate clothes. DE On Sun, Jun 21, 2009 at 8:47 AM, JoelMatthews joelmatth...@mac.com wrote: Any of you MUSA knickers owners from the Midwest or Southeast? I have knickers from Swrve, Richard Reisenberg, Chrome and Swobo. All are good, but all seem designed with West Coast weather in mind. Meaning where it is hot, humidity tends be low, and where it is humid, it usually is not all that hot. The only time we have comparable conditions here in the upper Midwest is Mid to late September through early November. Spring is almost always too cold for any knickers. Summer just gets too hot and humid. The Patagonia shorts I use in the Summer are comfortable. But Patagonia does not make (decent riding anyway) shorts that cover the knees. As sun screen does not seem to want to stay on knees, that means I usually wind up with sun burn right on the top of the joint. Maybe if the West Coast swell riding clothes designers could spend a couple of hours on a stationary bike in a sauna they could come up with something that works for us suffering souls back East. On Jun 21, 12:12 am, RoadieRyan rya...@hotmail.com wrote: I have been thinking about getting some of the shorts so its good to hear all the positive feedback on them, for those who commented about the need for a back knicker, until there is a musa one you might check out http://www.oregoncyclewear.com/messenger_knickers.html RR On Jun 19, 5:18 pm, PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.com wrote: I just got back from 17 miles mostly off road, much of it sandy, riding in heavy cotton shorts and regular underwear. It never occured to me that I could be uncomfortable. I know that I am fine up to the 30 - 35 miles that is my typical long ride. Cotton polo on top. No gloves, no helmet, Carolyn Custom hat, flip up shades -- need the shades to keep my eyes from getting too red; the cap acts as sun visor and sweat collector. Riv content: My 2008 Redline Monocog 20er is set up as close to Rivendell fashion as I can make it. And I wear the same things, in summer, on my two custom fixed Riv Roads. On Fri, Jun 19, 2009 at 1:45 PM, Bill Rhea billr...@yahoo.com wrote: I saw Grant's June 15 blog plugging the MUSA line. I think he deserves to be enthusiastic about these products and to toot his own horn a bit. I’ve got 3 pairs of MUSA knickers, each from a different production run. While they’re all good, the latest ones hit the ball out of the park in every metric that matter to me: comfort, durability, style, value, and sweat-shop avoidance. The only days I don’t wear them are when I know it’s going to be scorching, then I’ve got MUSA shorts. Are there any new colors on the horizon for the seersucker long sleeves? I walked through Palo Alto Bicycles the other day and was quite frankly appalled at what people spend on spandex shorts and tights. $60 doesn't bring you even close to getting a pair of shorts I guess everyone is entitled to their own tastes, but I'm still a bit puzzled why the vast majority of people I see riding recreationally on the road still cling (no pun) to their Lycra. Only on rare occasions do I see people riding briskly on the road in regular-looking clothes,
[RBW] Re: another plug for MUSA
MUSA in action: http://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclotourist/3650999235/ :-) On Mon, Jun 22, 2009 at 8:42 PM, Mike mjawn...@gmail.com wrote: Between this posts and Grant's I found myself compelled to order some shorts. I'll probably order a shirt and a pair of pants to take on tour later this summer since they're light and so packable. On Jun 21, 3:26 pm, David Estes cyclotour...@gmail.com wrote: It's interesting that East Coast in general, and NYC specifically doesn't have a bunch of manufacturers... I would think there is a critical mass there. Today was a MUSA day for me! DE On Sun, Jun 21, 2009 at 3:20 PM, JoelMatthews joelmatth...@mac.com wrote: Well there is Ibex in Vermont, but they are primarily known for winter gear. Ibex does make (or more precisely has a factory in China make) organic cotton long shorts. I like wearing natural cloth whenever possible, but if the cotton is too thick, it will be uncomfortable on longer rides. The Midwest and East Coast does not otherwise seem to have the critical mass of bike centric merchandisers you have out West. Certainly the market is here and growing. I imagine one factor is the West Coast entered the bicycle renaissance earlier than we here out East and your companies had too much of a head start - with the web making their stuff easier to get here - for local business to catch on. On Jun 21, 4:55 pm, David Estes cyclotour...@gmail.com wrote: Serious question: aren't there any bike clothing designers on the East Coast? It seems like they would be more apt to design appropriate clothes. DE On Sun, Jun 21, 2009 at 8:47 AM, JoelMatthews joelmatth...@mac.com wrote: Any of you MUSA knickers owners from the Midwest or Southeast? I have knickers from Swrve, Richard Reisenberg, Chrome and Swobo. All are good, but all seem designed with West Coast weather in mind. Meaning where it is hot, humidity tends be low, and where it is humid, it usually is not all that hot. The only time we have comparable conditions here in the upper Midwest is Mid to late September through early November. Spring is almost always too cold for any knickers. Summer just gets too hot and humid. The Patagonia shorts I use in the Summer are comfortable. But Patagonia does not make (decent riding anyway) shorts that cover the knees. As sun screen does not seem to want to stay on knees, that means I usually wind up with sun burn right on the top of the joint. Maybe if the West Coast swell riding clothes designers could spend a couple of hours on a stationary bike in a sauna they could come up with something that works for us suffering souls back East. On Jun 21, 12:12 am, RoadieRyan rya...@hotmail.com wrote: I have been thinking about getting some of the shorts so its good to hear all the positive feedback on them, for those who commented about the need for a back knicker, until there is a musa one you might check out http://www.oregoncyclewear.com/messenger_knickers.html RR On Jun 19, 5:18 pm, PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.com wrote: I just got back from 17 miles mostly off road, much of it sandy, riding in heavy cotton shorts and regular underwear. It never occured to me that I could be uncomfortable. I know that I am fine up to the 30 - 35 miles that is my typical long ride. Cotton polo on top. No gloves, no helmet, Carolyn Custom hat, flip up shades -- need the shades to keep my eyes from getting too red; the cap acts as sun visor and sweat collector. Riv content: My 2008 Redline Monocog 20er is set up as close to Rivendell fashion as I can make it. And I wear the same things, in summer, on my two custom fixed Riv Roads. On Fri, Jun 19, 2009 at 1:45 PM, Bill Rhea billr...@yahoo.com wrote: I saw Grant's June 15 blog plugging the MUSA line. I think he deserves to be enthusiastic about these products and to toot his own horn a bit. I’ve got 3 pairs of MUSA knickers, each from a different production run. While they’re all good, the latest ones hit the ball out of the park in every metric that matter to me: comfort, durability, style, value, and sweat-shop avoidance. The only days I don’t wear them are when I know it’s going to be scorching, then I’ve got MUSA shorts. Are there any new colors on the horizon for the seersucker long sleeves? I walked through Palo Alto Bicycles the other day and was quite frankly appalled at what people spend on spandex shorts and tights. $60 doesn't bring you even close to getting a pair of shorts I guess everyone is entitled to
[RBW] Re: another plug for MUSA
Any of you MUSA knickers owners from the Midwest or Southeast? I have knickers from Swrve, Richard Reisenberg, Chrome and Swobo. All are good, but all seem designed with West Coast weather in mind. Meaning where it is hot, humidity tends be low, and where it is humid, it usually is not all that hot. The only time we have comparable conditions here in the upper Midwest is Mid to late September through early November. Spring is almost always too cold for any knickers. Summer just gets too hot and humid. The Patagonia shorts I use in the Summer are comfortable. But Patagonia does not make (decent riding anyway) shorts that cover the knees. As sun screen does not seem to want to stay on knees, that means I usually wind up with sun burn right on the top of the joint. Maybe if the West Coast swell riding clothes designers could spend a couple of hours on a stationary bike in a sauna they could come up with something that works for us suffering souls back East. On Jun 21, 12:12 am, RoadieRyan rya...@hotmail.com wrote: I have been thinking about getting some of the shorts so its good to hear all the positive feedback on them, for those who commented about the need for a back knicker, until there is a musa one you might check out http://www.oregoncyclewear.com/messenger_knickers.html RR On Jun 19, 5:18 pm, PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.com wrote: I just got back from 17 miles mostly off road, much of it sandy, riding in heavy cotton shorts and regular underwear. It never occured to me that I could be uncomfortable. I know that I am fine up to the 30 - 35 miles that is my typical long ride. Cotton polo on top. No gloves, no helmet, Carolyn Custom hat, flip up shades -- need the shades to keep my eyes from getting too red; the cap acts as sun visor and sweat collector. Riv content: My 2008 Redline Monocog 20er is set up as close to Rivendell fashion as I can make it. And I wear the same things, in summer, on my two custom fixed Riv Roads. On Fri, Jun 19, 2009 at 1:45 PM, Bill Rhea billr...@yahoo.com wrote: I saw Grant's June 15 blog plugging the MUSA line. I think he deserves to be enthusiastic about these products and to toot his own horn a bit. I’ve got 3 pairs of MUSA knickers, each from a different production run. While they’re all good, the latest ones hit the ball out of the park in every metric that matter to me: comfort, durability, style, value, and sweat-shop avoidance. The only days I don’t wear them are when I know it’s going to be scorching, then I’ve got MUSA shorts. Are there any new colors on the horizon for the seersucker long sleeves? I walked through Palo Alto Bicycles the other day and was quite frankly appalled at what people spend on spandex shorts and tights. $60 doesn't bring you even close to getting a pair of shorts I guess everyone is entitled to their own tastes, but I'm still a bit puzzled why the vast majority of people I see riding recreationally on the road still cling (no pun) to their Lycra. Only on rare occasions do I see people riding briskly on the road in regular-looking clothes, but certainly never on the weekends where the armies of recreational cyclists congregate on the backroads of Woodside and Portola Valley. I've NEVER seen another human wearing MUSA knickers or shorts here in San Mateo County. Not commuting, not on the weekends. Where is everybody? -br -- Patrick Moore Albuquerque, NM Professional Resumes. Contact resumespecialt...@gmail.com- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: another plug for MUSA
Serious question: aren't there any bike clothing designers on the East Coast? It seems like they would be more apt to design appropriate clothes. DE On Sun, Jun 21, 2009 at 8:47 AM, JoelMatthews joelmatth...@mac.com wrote: Any of you MUSA knickers owners from the Midwest or Southeast? I have knickers from Swrve, Richard Reisenberg, Chrome and Swobo. All are good, but all seem designed with West Coast weather in mind. Meaning where it is hot, humidity tends be low, and where it is humid, it usually is not all that hot. The only time we have comparable conditions here in the upper Midwest is Mid to late September through early November. Spring is almost always too cold for any knickers. Summer just gets too hot and humid. The Patagonia shorts I use in the Summer are comfortable. But Patagonia does not make (decent riding anyway) shorts that cover the knees. As sun screen does not seem to want to stay on knees, that means I usually wind up with sun burn right on the top of the joint. Maybe if the West Coast swell riding clothes designers could spend a couple of hours on a stationary bike in a sauna they could come up with something that works for us suffering souls back East. On Jun 21, 12:12 am, RoadieRyan rya...@hotmail.com wrote: I have been thinking about getting some of the shorts so its good to hear all the positive feedback on them, for those who commented about the need for a back knicker, until there is a musa one you might check out http://www.oregoncyclewear.com/messenger_knickers.html RR On Jun 19, 5:18 pm, PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.com wrote: I just got back from 17 miles mostly off road, much of it sandy, riding in heavy cotton shorts and regular underwear. It never occured to me that I could be uncomfortable. I know that I am fine up to the 30 - 35 miles that is my typical long ride. Cotton polo on top. No gloves, no helmet, Carolyn Custom hat, flip up shades -- need the shades to keep my eyes from getting too red; the cap acts as sun visor and sweat collector. Riv content: My 2008 Redline Monocog 20er is set up as close to Rivendell fashion as I can make it. And I wear the same things, in summer, on my two custom fixed Riv Roads. On Fri, Jun 19, 2009 at 1:45 PM, Bill Rhea billr...@yahoo.com wrote: I saw Grant's June 15 blog plugging the MUSA line. I think he deserves to be enthusiastic about these products and to toot his own horn a bit. I’ve got 3 pairs of MUSA knickers, each from a different production run. While they’re all good, the latest ones hit the ball out of the park in every metric that matter to me: comfort, durability, style, value, and sweat-shop avoidance. The only days I don’t wear them are when I know it’s going to be scorching, then I’ve got MUSA shorts. Are there any new colors on the horizon for the seersucker long sleeves? I walked through Palo Alto Bicycles the other day and was quite frankly appalled at what people spend on spandex shorts and tights. $60 doesn't bring you even close to getting a pair of shorts I guess everyone is entitled to their own tastes, but I'm still a bit puzzled why the vast majority of people I see riding recreationally on the road still cling (no pun) to their Lycra. Only on rare occasions do I see people riding briskly on the road in regular-looking clothes, but certainly never on the weekends where the armies of recreational cyclists congregate on the backroads of Woodside and Portola Valley. I've NEVER seen another human wearing MUSA knickers or shorts here in San Mateo County. Not commuting, not on the weekends. Where is everybody? -br -- Patrick Moore Albuquerque, NM Professional Resumes. Contact resumespecialt...@gmail.com- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: another plug for MUSA
Well there is Ibex in Vermont, but they are primarily known for winter gear. Ibex does make (or more precisely has a factory in China make) organic cotton long shorts. I like wearing natural cloth whenever possible, but if the cotton is too thick, it will be uncomfortable on longer rides. The Midwest and East Coast does not otherwise seem to have the critical mass of bike centric merchandisers you have out West. Certainly the market is here and growing. I imagine one factor is the West Coast entered the bicycle renaissance earlier than we here out East and your companies had too much of a head start - with the web making their stuff easier to get here - for local business to catch on. On Jun 21, 4:55 pm, David Estes cyclotour...@gmail.com wrote: Serious question: aren't there any bike clothing designers on the East Coast? It seems like they would be more apt to design appropriate clothes. DE On Sun, Jun 21, 2009 at 8:47 AM, JoelMatthews joelmatth...@mac.com wrote: Any of you MUSA knickers owners from the Midwest or Southeast? I have knickers from Swrve, Richard Reisenberg, Chrome and Swobo. All are good, but all seem designed with West Coast weather in mind. Meaning where it is hot, humidity tends be low, and where it is humid, it usually is not all that hot. The only time we have comparable conditions here in the upper Midwest is Mid to late September through early November. Spring is almost always too cold for any knickers. Summer just gets too hot and humid. The Patagonia shorts I use in the Summer are comfortable. But Patagonia does not make (decent riding anyway) shorts that cover the knees. As sun screen does not seem to want to stay on knees, that means I usually wind up with sun burn right on the top of the joint. Maybe if the West Coast swell riding clothes designers could spend a couple of hours on a stationary bike in a sauna they could come up with something that works for us suffering souls back East. On Jun 21, 12:12 am, RoadieRyan rya...@hotmail.com wrote: I have been thinking about getting some of the shorts so its good to hear all the positive feedback on them, for those who commented about the need for a back knicker, until there is a musa one you might check out http://www.oregoncyclewear.com/messenger_knickers.html RR On Jun 19, 5:18 pm, PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.com wrote: I just got back from 17 miles mostly off road, much of it sandy, riding in heavy cotton shorts and regular underwear. It never occured to me that I could be uncomfortable. I know that I am fine up to the 30 - 35 miles that is my typical long ride. Cotton polo on top. No gloves, no helmet, Carolyn Custom hat, flip up shades -- need the shades to keep my eyes from getting too red; the cap acts as sun visor and sweat collector. Riv content: My 2008 Redline Monocog 20er is set up as close to Rivendell fashion as I can make it. And I wear the same things, in summer, on my two custom fixed Riv Roads. On Fri, Jun 19, 2009 at 1:45 PM, Bill Rhea billr...@yahoo.com wrote: I saw Grant's June 15 blog plugging the MUSA line. I think he deserves to be enthusiastic about these products and to toot his own horn a bit. I’ve got 3 pairs of MUSA knickers, each from a different production run. While they’re all good, the latest ones hit the ball out of the park in every metric that matter to me: comfort, durability, style, value, and sweat-shop avoidance. The only days I don’t wear them are when I know it’s going to be scorching, then I’ve got MUSA shorts. Are there any new colors on the horizon for the seersucker long sleeves? I walked through Palo Alto Bicycles the other day and was quite frankly appalled at what people spend on spandex shorts and tights. $60 doesn't bring you even close to getting a pair of shorts I guess everyone is entitled to their own tastes, but I'm still a bit puzzled why the vast majority of people I see riding recreationally on the road still cling (no pun) to their Lycra. Only on rare occasions do I see people riding briskly on the road in regular-looking clothes, but certainly never on the weekends where the armies of recreational cyclists congregate on the backroads of Woodside and Portola Valley. I've NEVER seen another human wearing MUSA knickers or shorts here in San Mateo County. Not commuting, not on the weekends. Where is everybody? -br -- Patrick Moore Albuquerque, NM Professional Resumes. Contact resumespecialt...@gmail.com- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to
[RBW] Re: another plug for MUSA
It's interesting that East Coast in general, and NYC specifically doesn't have a bunch of manufacturers... I would think there is a critical mass there. Today was a MUSA day for me! DE On Sun, Jun 21, 2009 at 3:20 PM, JoelMatthews joelmatth...@mac.com wrote: Well there is Ibex in Vermont, but they are primarily known for winter gear. Ibex does make (or more precisely has a factory in China make) organic cotton long shorts. I like wearing natural cloth whenever possible, but if the cotton is too thick, it will be uncomfortable on longer rides. The Midwest and East Coast does not otherwise seem to have the critical mass of bike centric merchandisers you have out West. Certainly the market is here and growing. I imagine one factor is the West Coast entered the bicycle renaissance earlier than we here out East and your companies had too much of a head start - with the web making their stuff easier to get here - for local business to catch on. On Jun 21, 4:55 pm, David Estes cyclotour...@gmail.com wrote: Serious question: aren't there any bike clothing designers on the East Coast? It seems like they would be more apt to design appropriate clothes. DE On Sun, Jun 21, 2009 at 8:47 AM, JoelMatthews joelmatth...@mac.com wrote: Any of you MUSA knickers owners from the Midwest or Southeast? I have knickers from Swrve, Richard Reisenberg, Chrome and Swobo. All are good, but all seem designed with West Coast weather in mind. Meaning where it is hot, humidity tends be low, and where it is humid, it usually is not all that hot. The only time we have comparable conditions here in the upper Midwest is Mid to late September through early November. Spring is almost always too cold for any knickers. Summer just gets too hot and humid. The Patagonia shorts I use in the Summer are comfortable. But Patagonia does not make (decent riding anyway) shorts that cover the knees. As sun screen does not seem to want to stay on knees, that means I usually wind up with sun burn right on the top of the joint. Maybe if the West Coast swell riding clothes designers could spend a couple of hours on a stationary bike in a sauna they could come up with something that works for us suffering souls back East. On Jun 21, 12:12 am, RoadieRyan rya...@hotmail.com wrote: I have been thinking about getting some of the shorts so its good to hear all the positive feedback on them, for those who commented about the need for a back knicker, until there is a musa one you might check out http://www.oregoncyclewear.com/messenger_knickers.html RR On Jun 19, 5:18 pm, PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.com wrote: I just got back from 17 miles mostly off road, much of it sandy, riding in heavy cotton shorts and regular underwear. It never occured to me that I could be uncomfortable. I know that I am fine up to the 30 - 35 miles that is my typical long ride. Cotton polo on top. No gloves, no helmet, Carolyn Custom hat, flip up shades -- need the shades to keep my eyes from getting too red; the cap acts as sun visor and sweat collector. Riv content: My 2008 Redline Monocog 20er is set up as close to Rivendell fashion as I can make it. And I wear the same things, in summer, on my two custom fixed Riv Roads. On Fri, Jun 19, 2009 at 1:45 PM, Bill Rhea billr...@yahoo.com wrote: I saw Grant's June 15 blog plugging the MUSA line. I think he deserves to be enthusiastic about these products and to toot his own horn a bit. I’ve got 3 pairs of MUSA knickers, each from a different production run. While they’re all good, the latest ones hit the ball out of the park in every metric that matter to me: comfort, durability, style, value, and sweat-shop avoidance. The only days I don’t wear them are when I know it’s going to be scorching, then I’ve got MUSA shorts. Are there any new colors on the horizon for the seersucker long sleeves? I walked through Palo Alto Bicycles the other day and was quite frankly appalled at what people spend on spandex shorts and tights. $60 doesn't bring you even close to getting a pair of shorts I guess everyone is entitled to their own tastes, but I'm still a bit puzzled why the vast majority of people I see riding recreationally on the road still cling (no pun) to their Lycra. Only on rare occasions do I see people riding briskly on the road in regular-looking clothes, but certainly never on the weekends where the armies of recreational cyclists congregate on the backroads of Woodside and Portola Valley. I've NEVER seen another human wearing MUSA knickers or shorts here in San Mateo County. Not commuting, not on the weekends. Where is everybody? -br --
[RBW] Re: another plug for MUSA
I have been thinking about getting some of the shorts so its good to hear all the positive feedback on them, for those who commented about the need for a back knicker, until there is a musa one you might check out http://www.oregoncyclewear.com/messenger_knickers.html RR On Jun 19, 5:18 pm, PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.com wrote: I just got back from 17 miles mostly off road, much of it sandy, riding in heavy cotton shorts and regular underwear. It never occured to me that I could be uncomfortable. I know that I am fine up to the 30 - 35 miles that is my typical long ride. Cotton polo on top. No gloves, no helmet, Carolyn Custom hat, flip up shades -- need the shades to keep my eyes from getting too red; the cap acts as sun visor and sweat collector. Riv content: My 2008 Redline Monocog 20er is set up as close to Rivendell fashion as I can make it. And I wear the same things, in summer, on my two custom fixed Riv Roads. On Fri, Jun 19, 2009 at 1:45 PM, Bill Rhea billr...@yahoo.com wrote: I saw Grant's June 15 blog plugging the MUSA line. I think he deserves to be enthusiastic about these products and to toot his own horn a bit. I’ve got 3 pairs of MUSA knickers, each from a different production run. While they’re all good, the latest ones hit the ball out of the park in every metric that matter to me: comfort, durability, style, value, and sweat-shop avoidance. The only days I don’t wear them are when I know it’s going to be scorching, then I’ve got MUSA shorts. Are there any new colors on the horizon for the seersucker long sleeves? I walked through Palo Alto Bicycles the other day and was quite frankly appalled at what people spend on spandex shorts and tights. $60 doesn't bring you even close to getting a pair of shorts I guess everyone is entitled to their own tastes, but I'm still a bit puzzled why the vast majority of people I see riding recreationally on the road still cling (no pun) to their Lycra. Only on rare occasions do I see people riding briskly on the road in regular-looking clothes, but certainly never on the weekends where the armies of recreational cyclists congregate on the backroads of Woodside and Portola Valley. I've NEVER seen another human wearing MUSA knickers or shorts here in San Mateo County. Not commuting, not on the weekends. Where is everybody? -br -- Patrick Moore Albuquerque, NM Professional Resumes. Contact resumespecialt...@gmail.com- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: another plug for MUSA
I love my MUSA shorts when its hot out. I'd like to see knickers in all black, or all-one color. On Jun 19, 12:45 pm, Bill Rhea billr...@yahoo.com wrote: I saw Grant's June 15 blog plugging the MUSA line. I think he deserves to be enthusiastic about these products and to toot his own horn a bit. I’ve got 3 pairs of MUSA knickers, each from a different production run. While they’re all good, the latest ones hit the ball out of the park in every metric that matter to me: comfort, durability, style, value, and sweat-shop avoidance. The only days I don’t wear them are when I know it’s going to be scorching, then I’ve got MUSA shorts. Are there any new colors on the horizon for the seersucker long sleeves? I walked through Palo Alto Bicycles the other day and was quite frankly appalled at what people spend on spandex shorts and tights. $60 doesn't bring you even close to getting a pair of shorts I guess everyone is entitled to their own tastes, but I'm still a bit puzzled why the vast majority of people I see riding recreationally on the road still cling (no pun) to their Lycra. Only on rare occasions do I see people riding briskly on the road in regular-looking clothes, but certainly never on the weekends where the armies of recreational cyclists congregate on the backroads of Woodside and Portola Valley. I've NEVER seen another human wearing MUSA knickers or shorts here in San Mateo County. Not commuting, not on the weekends. Where is everybody? -br --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: another plug for MUSA
I've been wearing my MUSA butternut shorts around the yard in the evenings as I tend to watering, mowing etc. It's in the upper 90s to 100 here now, and they are easily the most comfotable hot weather shorts I've tried. The Boosuckers are great too. The seersucker shirt has changed color over the years. Call RWHQs and ask what they have laying around. From: Bill Rhea billr...@yahoo.com To: RBW Owners Bunch rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Cc: gr...@rivbike.com Sent: Friday, June 19, 2009 2:45:09 PM Subject: [RBW] another plug for MUSA I saw Grant's June 15 blog plugging the MUSA line. I think he deserves to be enthusiastic about these products and to toot his own horn a bit. The only days I don’t wear them are when I know it’s going to be scorching, then I’ve got MUSA shorts. Are there any new colors on the horizon for the seersucker long sleeves? --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: another plug for MUSA
The MUSA knickers are great--I wore them for all of my riding for about two years. But I have to say, now that I've been using Swobo knickers for the last six months, I don't think I'd go back. I find the fit and comfort level to be better, and they don't twist around my waist they way the MUSA knickers used to do. The MUSA knickers win on price though! Dustin From: Esteban proto...@gmail.com Reply-To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Date: Fri, 19 Jun 2009 13:14:06 -0700 (PDT) To: RBW Owners Bunch rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: [RBW] Re: another plug for MUSA I love my MUSA shorts when its hot out. I'd like to see knickers in all black, or all-one color. On Jun 19, 12:45 pm, Bill Rhea billr...@yahoo.com wrote: I saw Grant's June 15 blog plugging the MUSA line. I think he deserves to be enthusiastic about these products and to toot his own horn a bit. I¹ve got 3 pairs of MUSA knickers, each from a different production run. While they¹re all good, the latest ones hit the ball out of the park in every metric that matter to me: comfort, durability, style, value, and sweat-shop avoidance. The only days I don¹t wear them are when I know it¹s going to be scorching, then I¹ve got MUSA shorts. Are there any new colors on the horizon for the seersucker long sleeves? I walked through Palo Alto Bicycles the other day and was quite frankly appalled at what people spend on spandex shorts and tights. $60 doesn't bring you even close to getting a pair of shorts I guess everyone is entitled to their own tastes, but I'm still a bit puzzled why the vast majority of people I see riding recreationally on the road still cling (no pun) to their Lycra. Only on rare occasions do I see people riding briskly on the road in regular-looking clothes, but certainly never on the weekends where the armies of recreational cyclists congregate on the backroads of Woodside and Portola Valley. I've NEVER seen another human wearing MUSA knickers or shorts here in San Mateo County. Not commuting, not on the weekends. Where is everybody? -br --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: another plug for MUSA
ONLY thing I would like in them is just a touch of Lycra, 1 or 2% just to give them a little stretch. On Fri, Jun 19, 2009 at 1:21 PM, Dustin Sharp dsh...@runbox.com wrote: The MUSA knickers are great--I wore them for all of my riding for about two years. But I have to say, now that I've been using Swobo knickers for the last six months, I don't think I'd go back. I find the fit and comfort level to be better, and they don't twist around my waist they way the MUSA knickers used to do. The MUSA knickers win on price though! Dustin From: Esteban proto...@gmail.com Reply-To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Date: Fri, 19 Jun 2009 13:14:06 -0700 (PDT) To: RBW Owners Bunch rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: [RBW] Re: another plug for MUSA I love my MUSA shorts when its hot out. I'd like to see knickers in all black, or all-one color. On Jun 19, 12:45 pm, Bill Rhea billr...@yahoo.com wrote: I saw Grant's June 15 blog plugging the MUSA line. I think he deserves to be enthusiastic about these products and to toot his own horn a bit. I¹ve got 3 pairs of MUSA knickers, each from a different production run. While they¹re all good, the latest ones hit the ball out of the park in every metric that matter to me: comfort, durability, style, value, and sweat-shop avoidance. The only days I don¹t wear them are when I know it¹s going to be scorching, then I¹ve got MUSA shorts. Are there any new colors on the horizon for the seersucker long sleeves? I walked through Palo Alto Bicycles the other day and was quite frankly appalled at what people spend on spandex shorts and tights. $60 doesn't bring you even close to getting a pair of shorts I guess everyone is entitled to their own tastes, but I'm still a bit puzzled why the vast majority of people I see riding recreationally on the road still cling (no pun) to their Lycra. Only on rare occasions do I see people riding briskly on the road in regular-looking clothes, but certainly never on the weekends where the armies of recreational cyclists congregate on the backroads of Woodside and Portola Valley. I've NEVER seen another human wearing MUSA knickers or shorts here in San Mateo County. Not commuting, not on the weekends. Where is everybody? -br -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: another plug for MUSA
Knickers are about the only MUSA product I don't have. Mainly because when I was searching for them, Rivendell was out. Otherwise, am also sold on the product line. Was bugging Grant this week about getting some more seersucker shirts in so I can have another one for my trip out to San Diego in August. Black pants, shorts, and knickers might be nice. Especially in the slightly heavier material of the grey and olive shorts. Eric Platt St. Paul, MN On Jun 19, 3:14 pm, Esteban proto...@gmail.com wrote: I love my MUSA shorts when its hot out. I'd like to see knickers in all black, or all-one color. On Jun 19, 12:45 pm, Bill Rhea billr...@yahoo.com wrote: I saw Grant's June 15 blog plugging the MUSA line. I think he deserves to be enthusiastic about these products and to toot his own horn a bit. I’ve got 3 pairs of MUSA knickers, each from a different production run. While they’re all good, the latest ones hit the ball out of the park in every metric that matter to me: comfort, durability, style, value, and sweat-shop avoidance. The only days I don’t wear them are when I know it’s going to be scorching, then I’ve got MUSA shorts. Are there any new colors on the horizon for the seersucker long sleeves? I walked through Palo Alto Bicycles the other day and was quite frankly appalled at what people spend on spandex shorts and tights. $60 doesn't bring you even close to getting a pair of shorts I guess everyone is entitled to their own tastes, but I'm still a bit puzzled why the vast majority of people I see riding recreationally on the road still cling (no pun) to their Lycra. Only on rare occasions do I see people riding briskly on the road in regular-looking clothes, but certainly never on the weekends where the armies of recreational cyclists congregate on the backroads of Woodside and Portola Valley. I've NEVER seen another human wearing MUSA knickers or shorts here in San Mateo County. Not commuting, not on the weekends. Where is everybody? -br- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---