[RBW] Re: Canti-Rom Complete - 63 cm - California Sale Desired so I Can Deliver It

[DTL]

Damn if i lived in Cali! (and not Australia) Ha.

On Thursday, August 15, 2024 at 10:05:32 AM UTC+10 Jimmy Warren wrote:

> Bump - Asking price changed to $1400 delivered if I deliver in person (see 
> description below.)
>
> On Aug 6, 2024, at 5:00 PM, James Warren  wrote:
>
> 
>
> Hi RBW Forum Friends,
>
> Photos show a bike that’s been in my large bike collection but has always 
> gotten way too few miles. (I have a collection of Rivs and Bridgestones.) 
> It’s a sport-touring road bike that has even more big-tire versatility due 
> to its cantilever brakes. (38 mm tires fit easily.)  I’ve taken great care 
> of it since 2006 (when I got it via trade for a Heron touring on this 
> forum), and the frame has very few scratches and is in outstanding 
> condition.
>
> I have a 93 cm PBH, so this frame is about 1 cm too small for me. The long 
> and high Nitto stem in the photos shows how I addressed it and made the 
> frame size work for me. I have many other stems if the buyer wants a 
> different dimension stem swapped in (I could mail that stem later.) The 
> saddle height in the photos is probably a bit lower than my usual 81 cm.
>
> Asking $1500, with delivery included assuming I deliver it unboxed. 
> Avoiding packing time and shipping is my desire, and I’d like to deliver to 
> the Californian buyer during the week of August 11 through 18 as part of 
> my drive home to Los Angeles from San Francisco. Preference given to buyers 
> for whom shipping is not required. PayPal or Venmo
>
> Components:
> Dia Compe canti brakes
> Tiagra drop bar brake levers
> Nitto stem
> Nitto Noodle handlebar - 44 cm
> Riv Silver bar-end shifters
> Shimano Ultegra headset
> Suntour XC-Pro crank triple: 46-36-24
> 12-34 SRAM 9-speed cassette
> Dura Ace front derailleur
> Deore rear derailleur
> MKS sneaker pedals
> Thomson seatpost
> Seller San Marcos saddle
> Panaracer Pasela 700x37 tires
> Rear wheel is Lesnik-built: Alex DM18 with LX hub, 36 spokes
> Front wheel has a Sun CR-18 rim and a hub labeled Shimano, 36 spokes
>
> If interested, email me at:
> jimmac...@gmail.com
>
> Thank you,
> Jim Warren, long-time Forum member
>
> Photos, and I have more:
>
> 
> 
>
> 
>
>
>
>

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[RBW] Re: Canti-Rom Complete - 63 cm - California Sale Desired so I Can Deliver It

[James Warren]

Bump - Asking price changed to $1400 delivered if I deliver in person (see 
description below.)

> On Aug 6, 2024, at 5:00 PM, James Warren  wrote:
> 
> 
> Hi RBW Forum Friends,
> 
> Photos show a bike that’s been in my large bike collection but has always 
> gotten way too few miles. (I have a collection of Rivs and Bridgestones.) 
> It’s a sport-touring road bike that has even more big-tire versatility due to 
> its cantilever brakes. (38 mm tires fit easily.)  I’ve taken great care of it 
> since 2006 (when I got it via trade for a Heron touring on this forum), and 
> the frame has very few scratches and is in outstanding condition.
> 
> I have a 93 cm PBH, so this frame is about 1 cm too small for me. The long 
> and high Nitto stem in the photos shows how I addressed it and made the frame 
> size work for me. I have many other stems if the buyer wants a different 
> dimension stem swapped in (I could mail that stem later.) The saddle height 
> in the photos is probably a bit lower than my usual 81 cm.
> 
> Asking $1500, with delivery included assuming I deliver it unboxed. Avoiding 
> packing time and shipping is my desire, and I’d like to deliver to the 
> Californian buyer during the week of August 11 through 18 as part of my drive 
> home to Los Angeles from San Francisco. Preference given to buyers for whom 
> shipping is not required. PayPal or Venmo
> 
> Components:
> Dia Compe canti brakes
> Tiagra drop bar brake levers
> Nitto stem
> Nitto Noodle handlebar - 44 cm
> Riv Silver bar-end shifters
> Shimano Ultegra headset
> Suntour XC-Pro crank triple: 46-36-24
> 12-34 SRAM 9-speed cassette
> Dura Ace front derailleur
> Deore rear derailleur
> MKS sneaker pedals
> Thomson seatpost
> Seller San Marcos saddle
> Panaracer Pasela 700x37 tires
> Rear wheel is Lesnik-built: Alex DM18 with LX hub, 36 spokes
> Front wheel has a Sun CR-18 rim and a hub labeled Shimano, 36 spokes
> 
> If interested, email me at:
> jimmacwar...@gmail.com 
> 
> Thank you,
> Jim Warren, long-time Forum member
> 
> Photos, and I have more:
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 

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Re: [RBW] Re: Canti-Rom

[Joe Broach]

Luke,

I think the 700x49 fluted were a one time run. They're just about prefect
on the canti-Rom width wise--maybe a touch of a squeeze at the chainstays.

Best,
joe broach
pdx or
On Apr 18, 2015 7:51 AM, "lukeheller"  wrote:

> So I've been limiting my Rom's tire size all these years? Doh. Blast those
> silly VO fenders.
>
> Joe, do you mean 700x50 fenders? Their site indicates they sell 45's and
> 50's, no 49's. I am running the 45's on my Rom and it seems that's all that
> the chainstays will take but maybe I'm wrong.
>
> What are those fenders the OP has on his Rom? They look simply yet good.
> Chromoplastic?
> What's the fender to use to maximize tire clearance?
>
> On Thursday, April 16, 2015 at 6:32:22 PM UTC-4, joe b. wrote:
>>
>> That is weird, Luke. My 63 C-Rom fit Pasela 32s + VO 700x49 fenders
>> nicely. The brake bridge is a little low on these and becomes the tight
>> spot (I wonder if someone forgot to deduct the fender boss thickness), but
>> I've run the slightly bigger GB Cypres 700x32 under the same fenders with
>> no issue. Agree that 35s are a no-go with metal fenders, though, at least
>> in back.
>>
>> Best,
>> joe broach
>> pdx or
>>
>> On Mon, Apr 13, 2015 at 8:50 PM, lukeheller  wrote:
>>
>>> I'm shocked to see you can fender a 35.
>>>
>>> I tried to fender a 32 pasela under my hammered VO fenders on my 63cm
>>> Canti-Rom and it was too tight. Perhaps I need different fenders! I never
>>> liked those hammered fenders anyways besides the looks.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Friday, April 10, 2015 at 4:45:45 PM UTC-4, Dave Johnston wrote:

 The Rom's and Rams are awesome they have a nice sport touring geometry
 so they feel like a nice neutral road bike. It's hard to find a canti
 equiped bike that can handle 35mm tires that doesn't feel like a hybrid or
 Touring bike. I wish my Ram had come with canti's, I like the power and
 feel better and there is more clearance for fenders.

 Dave J

 On Wednesday, April 8, 2015 at 1:43:50 AM UTC-4, exliontamer wrote:
>
> This is my first show off a bike post and thought this would be the
> appropriate place to do it. I acquired a 61cm Cantilever Romulus frame
> recently and decided to build it into what you see. I managed to squeeze
> 35mm Marathon Supremes under the fenders. It rides great & it's ready for
> the rain.
>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Canti-Rom

[exliontamer]

The fenders are SKS Chromoplastics. It took a bit of finagling, drilling, 
hacksawing, and screw searching to get a workable line. I'm pretty sure 
they're P45s. 

On Saturday, April 18, 2015 at 9:51:59 AM UTC-5, lukeheller wrote:
>
> So I've been limiting my Rom's tire size all these years? Doh. Blast those 
> silly VO fenders.
>
> Joe, do you mean 700x50 fenders? Their site indicates they sell 45's and 
> 50's, no 49's. I am running the 45's on my Rom and it seems that's all that 
> the chainstays will take but maybe I'm wrong.
>
> What are those fenders the OP has on his Rom? They look simply yet good. 
> Chromoplastic? 
> What's the fender to use to maximize tire clearance?
>
> On Thursday, April 16, 2015 at 6:32:22 PM UTC-4, joe b. wrote:
>>
>> That is weird, Luke. My 63 C-Rom fit Pasela 32s + VO 700x49 fenders 
>> nicely. The brake bridge is a little low on these and becomes the tight 
>> spot (I wonder if someone forgot to deduct the fender boss thickness), but 
>> I've run the slightly bigger GB Cypres 700x32 under the same fenders with 
>> no issue. Agree that 35s are a no-go with metal fenders, though, at least 
>> in back.
>>
>> Best,
>> joe broach
>> pdx or
>>
>> On Mon, Apr 13, 2015 at 8:50 PM, lukeheller  wrote:
>>
>>> I'm shocked to see you can fender a 35. 
>>>
>>> I tried to fender a 32 pasela under my hammered VO fenders on my 63cm 
>>> Canti-Rom and it was too tight. Perhaps I need different fenders! I never 
>>> liked those hammered fenders anyways besides the looks.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Friday, April 10, 2015 at 4:45:45 PM UTC-4, Dave Johnston wrote:

 The Rom's and Rams are awesome they have a nice sport touring geometry 
 so they feel like a nice neutral road bike. It's hard to find a canti 
 equiped bike that can handle 35mm tires that doesn't feel like a hybrid or 
 Touring bike. I wish my Ram had come with canti's, I like the power and 
 feel better and there is more clearance for fenders.

 Dave J

 On Wednesday, April 8, 2015 at 1:43:50 AM UTC-4, exliontamer wrote:
>
> This is my first show off a bike post and thought this would be the 
> appropriate place to do it. I acquired a 61cm Cantilever Romulus frame 
> recently and decided to build it into what you see. I managed to squeeze 
> 35mm Marathon Supremes under the fenders. It rides great & it's ready for 
> the rain. 
>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Canti-Rom

[lukeheller]

So I've been limiting my Rom's tire size all these years? Doh. Blast those 
silly VO fenders.

Joe, do you mean 700x50 fenders? Their site indicates they sell 45's and 
50's, no 49's. I am running the 45's on my Rom and it seems that's all that 
the chainstays will take but maybe I'm wrong.

What are those fenders the OP has on his Rom? They look simply yet good. 
Chromoplastic? 
What's the fender to use to maximize tire clearance?

On Thursday, April 16, 2015 at 6:32:22 PM UTC-4, joe b. wrote:
>
> That is weird, Luke. My 63 C-Rom fit Pasela 32s + VO 700x49 fenders 
> nicely. The brake bridge is a little low on these and becomes the tight 
> spot (I wonder if someone forgot to deduct the fender boss thickness), but 
> I've run the slightly bigger GB Cypres 700x32 under the same fenders with 
> no issue. Agree that 35s are a no-go with metal fenders, though, at least 
> in back.
>
> Best,
> joe broach
> pdx or
>
> On Mon, Apr 13, 2015 at 8:50 PM, lukeheller  > wrote:
>
>> I'm shocked to see you can fender a 35. 
>>
>> I tried to fender a 32 pasela under my hammered VO fenders on my 63cm 
>> Canti-Rom and it was too tight. Perhaps I need different fenders! I never 
>> liked those hammered fenders anyways besides the looks.
>>
>>
>> On Friday, April 10, 2015 at 4:45:45 PM UTC-4, Dave Johnston wrote:
>>>
>>> The Rom's and Rams are awesome they have a nice sport touring geometry 
>>> so they feel like a nice neutral road bike. It's hard to find a canti 
>>> equiped bike that can handle 35mm tires that doesn't feel like a hybrid or 
>>> Touring bike. I wish my Ram had come with canti's, I like the power and 
>>> feel better and there is more clearance for fenders.
>>>
>>> Dave J
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, April 8, 2015 at 1:43:50 AM UTC-4, exliontamer wrote:

 This is my first show off a bike post and thought this would be the 
 appropriate place to do it. I acquired a 61cm Cantilever Romulus frame 
 recently and decided to build it into what you see. I managed to squeeze 
 35mm Marathon Supremes under the fenders. It rides great & it's ready for 
 the rain. 

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Re: [RBW] Re: Canti-Rom

[Joe Broach]

That is weird, Luke. My 63 C-Rom fit Pasela 32s + VO 700x49 fenders nicely.
The brake bridge is a little low on these and becomes the tight spot (I
wonder if someone forgot to deduct the fender boss thickness), but I've run
the slightly bigger GB Cypres 700x32 under the same fenders with no issue.
Agree that 35s are a no-go with metal fenders, though, at least in back.

Best,
joe broach
pdx or

On Mon, Apr 13, 2015 at 8:50 PM, lukeheller  wrote:

> I'm shocked to see you can fender a 35.
>
> I tried to fender a 32 pasela under my hammered VO fenders on my 63cm
> Canti-Rom and it was too tight. Perhaps I need different fenders! I never
> liked those hammered fenders anyways besides the looks.
>
>
> On Friday, April 10, 2015 at 4:45:45 PM UTC-4, Dave Johnston wrote:
>>
>> The Rom's and Rams are awesome they have a nice sport touring geometry so
>> they feel like a nice neutral road bike. It's hard to find a canti equiped
>> bike that can handle 35mm tires that doesn't feel like a hybrid or Touring
>> bike. I wish my Ram had come with canti's, I like the power and feel better
>> and there is more clearance for fenders.
>>
>> Dave J
>>
>> On Wednesday, April 8, 2015 at 1:43:50 AM UTC-4, exliontamer wrote:
>>>
>>> This is my first show off a bike post and thought this would be the
>>> appropriate place to do it. I acquired a 61cm Cantilever Romulus frame
>>> recently and decided to build it into what you see. I managed to squeeze
>>> 35mm Marathon Supremes under the fenders. It rides great & it's ready for
>>> the rain.
>>>
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[RBW] Re: Canti-Rom

[jpp]

I have always liked Brifters.  I often think my next bike I will switch 
back to them. In my experience the breaking aspect of them is really 
exaggerated.   I used to work at a bike shop and actually saw very few 
failures ever.  Plus my previous commuter bike had 105 STI's and I never 
had a problem with them, even after thousands of miles.  

On Wednesday, April 8, 2015 at 1:43:50 AM UTC-4, exliontamer wrote:
>
> This is my first show off a bike post and thought this would be the 
> appropriate place to do it. I acquired a 61cm Cantilever Romulus frame 
> recently and decided to build it into what you see. I managed to squeeze 
> 35mm Marathon Supremes under the fenders. It rides great & it's ready for 
> the rain. 
>

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[RBW] Re: Canti-Rom

[Leslie]

On Tuesday, April 14, 2015 at 10:25:56 AM UTC-4, DMG wrote:
>
> Weird, I have 32 Soma branded Panaracers on my Canti-Rom with Honjo 
> fenders and they fit fine (not spacious, but definitely sufficient). If 
> you're using the Velo-Orange struts, that could be more of an issue since 
> the bolts protrude pretty far into the interior. I'm using Berthoud struts, 
> which use much smaller bolts. Weird that no one has come up with a system 
> that puts the bolt head on the inside and the nut on the outside, but I 
> guess that would look a little ugly.
>

On my Ram, I converted my VO fenders to using a Berthoud strut;  I was 
catching my toe on the eye-bolt/strut/cup-washer assembly on the back of 
the front fender: by switching to the Berthoud strut, which is flattened 
across the back, and uses two smaller bolts off to the sides from the 
center, it's really improved the situation...  the times my toe does come 
on contact, which is far less often now, it can slide down the fender 
instead of catching.   (Canti-Rom is fenderless...  but, w/ 40's in there, 
I'm not getting a fender in there, too...)


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[RBW] Re: Canti-Rom

[DMG]

Weird, I have 32 Soma branded Panaracers on my Canti-Rom with Honjo fenders 
and they fit fine (not spacious, but definitely sufficient). If you're 
using the Velo-Orange struts, that could be more of an issue since the 
bolts protrude pretty far into the interior. I'm using Berthoud struts, 
which use much smaller bolts. Weird that no one has come up with a system 
that puts the bolt head on the inside and the nut on the outside, but I 
guess that would look a little ugly.

Dan, DC

On Tuesday, April 14, 2015 at 10:06:26 AM UTC-4, lukeheller wrote:
>
> I'm shocked to see you can fender a 35. 
>
> I tried to fender a 32 pasela under my hammered VO fenders on my 63cm 
> Canti-Rom and it was too tight. Perhaps I need different fenders! I never 
> liked those hammered fenders anyways besides the looks.
>
> On Friday, April 10, 2015 at 4:45:45 PM UTC-4, Dave Johnston wrote:
>>
>> The Rom's and Rams are awesome they have a nice sport touring geometry so 
>> they feel like a nice neutral road bike. It's hard to find a canti equiped 
>> bike that can handle 35mm tires that doesn't feel like a hybrid or Touring 
>> bike. I wish my Ram had come with canti's, I like the power and feel better 
>> and there is more clearance for fenders.
>>
>> Dave J
>>
>> On Wednesday, April 8, 2015 at 1:43:50 AM UTC-4, exliontamer wrote:
>>>
>>> This is my first show off a bike post and thought this would be the 
>>> appropriate place to do it. I acquired a 61cm Cantilever Romulus frame 
>>> recently and decided to build it into what you see. I managed to squeeze 
>>> 35mm Marathon Supremes under the fenders. It rides great & it's ready for 
>>> the rain. 
>>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: Canti-Rom

[lukeheller]

I'm shocked to see you can fender a 35. 

I tried to fender a 32 pasela under my hammered VO fenders on my 63cm 
Canti-Rom and it was too tight. Perhaps I need different fenders! I never 
liked those hammered fenders anyways besides the looks.

On Friday, April 10, 2015 at 4:45:45 PM UTC-4, Dave Johnston wrote:
>
> The Rom's and Rams are awesome they have a nice sport touring geometry so 
> they feel like a nice neutral road bike. It's hard to find a canti equiped 
> bike that can handle 35mm tires that doesn't feel like a hybrid or Touring 
> bike. I wish my Ram had come with canti's, I like the power and feel better 
> and there is more clearance for fenders.
>
> Dave J
>
> On Wednesday, April 8, 2015 at 1:43:50 AM UTC-4, exliontamer wrote:
>>
>> This is my first show off a bike post and thought this would be the 
>> appropriate place to do it. I acquired a 61cm Cantilever Romulus frame 
>> recently and decided to build it into what you see. I managed to squeeze 
>> 35mm Marathon Supremes under the fenders. It rides great & it's ready for 
>> the rain. 
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: Canti-Rom

[Dave Johnston]

The Rom's and Rams are awesome they have a nice sport touring geometry so 
they feel like a nice neutral road bike. It's hard to find a canti equiped 
bike that can handle 35mm tires that doesn't feel like a hybrid or Touring 
bike. I wish my Ram had come with canti's, I like the power and feel better 
and there is more clearance for fenders.

Dave J

On Wednesday, April 8, 2015 at 1:43:50 AM UTC-4, exliontamer wrote:
>
> This is my first show off a bike post and thought this would be the 
> appropriate place to do it. I acquired a 61cm Cantilever Romulus frame 
> recently and decided to build it into what you see. I managed to squeeze 
> 35mm Marathon Supremes under the fenders. It rides great & it's ready for 
> the rain. 
>

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[RBW] Re: Canti-Rom

[Leslie]

On Wednesday, April 8, 2015 at 1:43:50 AM UTC-4, exliontamer wrote:
>
> This is my first show off a bike post and thought this would be the 
> appropriate place to do it. I acquired a 61cm Cantilever Romulus frame 
> recently and decided to build it into what you see. I managed to squeeze 
> 35mm Marathon Supremes under the fenders. It rides great & it's ready for 
> the rain. 
>

I love my Ram, my first Riv, and have set it up for long road rides.
Then I got the Bomba, it's a load-bearer brute.  But then I picked up my 
canti-Rom...  I left it simple, put MSO's on it, and it's become my 
most-ridden bike now... my frequent ride on our local Greenbelt, the Bomba 
is 'overkill' for it, and the fenders on the Ram aren't happy coming down 
the gravel hill;  but the canti-Rom is the perfect bike for that ride.  Has 
become my go-to bike.Enjoy that one...  canti-Roms are awesome.   



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[RBW] Re: Canti-Rom

[Mike Schiller]

I'm really am happy with Campy Veloce Ergopower levers running shimErgo 
10-8.  You can get a pair for around $100 if you shop on-line. I really 
like them off-road as it's much quicker to shift in techy terrain.  


and I always liked the canti Roms... I prefer canti's to caliper brakes by 
a far margin, but could never find one on my size. 

~mike


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[RBW] Re: Canti-rom and dt shifters?

[Michael Gordon]

My canti-rom had bosses for dt shifters.

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Re: [RBW] Re: Canti-Rom

[clyde canter]

Oops.
Guess the original topic was to do with trail riding with Ram/ Roms.
I'm sure they  are both excellant choices for the creeper.
I have a Rambouilletnever had it off road to speak of...but I wouldn't
be the least bit leary of it for
"sane" off road use.

C
On Fri, Sep 3, 2010 at 1:41 PM, clyde canter  wrote:

> Cross levers really help on the descent from
> Whiite topthat is if  your're running drop bars of course.
> 3 of my metrics this year have been the creeper trail on my Sam35
> Pasela TGs and fendered.
> That's usually my longest ride(s) of the year...what is it like 67-68 miles
> or so from Abingdon to WT and back? So that's a bit over 100K . I try to do
> 5 or 6  solo metrics a year. Couldn't ask for a better machine(Sam Hill)
>  for that trail...IMHO.
> Hope to see you up there some time.I'll be the struggling old guy on
> the Sam Hillborne...
> Say hello.
> Clyde in Virginia
>
> On Fri, Sep 3, 2010 at 11:01 AM, Leslie  wrote:
>
>> FWIW, I've ridden the whole of the Creeper on my Ram, in two parts...
>> From Abingdon to Damascus and back by myself, then from Damascus to
>> Whitetop and back a few weeks later w/ my son.  A few weeks from now
>> should be fine weather, the last of this heat will be gone; but you'll
>> be too early for the colors (but, you won't have the crowds w/o the
>> colors, either)...
>>
>> FWIW,
>>
>> -L
>>
>> PS: running 32 Paselas w/ Tourguards...
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sep 2, 6:32 pm, roadrunner  wrote:
>> > FWIW: I am running Marathon 35s on Mavic 622x19 rims with SKS fenders
>> > just fine on my 59 cm Canti-Romulus. All in preparation for packed
>> > gravel rail-trails riding in Virginia including the Virginia Creeper
>> > and New River in a few weeks.  Rode same across the Southern Tier and
>> > the Pacific Coast(Seattle to Montara), both trips fully loaded.
>> > Extremely versatile bike.
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Re: [RBW] Re: Canti-Rom

[clyde canter]

Cross levers really help on the descent from
Whiite topthat is if  your're running drop bars of course.
3 of my metrics this year have been the creeper trail on my Sam35 Pasela
TGs and fendered.
That's usually my longest ride(s) of the year...what is it like 67-68 miles
or so from Abingdon to WT and back? So that's a bit over 100K . I try to do
5 or 6  solo metrics a year. Couldn't ask for a better machine(Sam Hill)
 for that trail...IMHO.
Hope to see you up there some time.I'll be the struggling old guy on the
Sam Hillborne...
Say hello.
Clyde in Virginia

On Fri, Sep 3, 2010 at 11:01 AM, Leslie  wrote:

> FWIW, I've ridden the whole of the Creeper on my Ram, in two parts...
> From Abingdon to Damascus and back by myself, then from Damascus to
> Whitetop and back a few weeks later w/ my son.  A few weeks from now
> should be fine weather, the last of this heat will be gone; but you'll
> be too early for the colors (but, you won't have the crowds w/o the
> colors, either)...
>
> FWIW,
>
> -L
>
> PS: running 32 Paselas w/ Tourguards...
>
>
>
>
> On Sep 2, 6:32 pm, roadrunner  wrote:
> > FWIW: I am running Marathon 35s on Mavic 622x19 rims with SKS fenders
> > just fine on my 59 cm Canti-Romulus. All in preparation for packed
> > gravel rail-trails riding in Virginia including the Virginia Creeper
> > and New River in a few weeks.  Rode same across the Southern Tier and
> > the Pacific Coast(Seattle to Montara), both trips fully loaded.
> > Extremely versatile bike.
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[RBW] Re: Canti-Rom

[Leslie]

FWIW, I've ridden the whole of the Creeper on my Ram, in two parts...
>From Abingdon to Damascus and back by myself, then from Damascus to
Whitetop and back a few weeks later w/ my son.  A few weeks from now
should be fine weather, the last of this heat will be gone; but you'll
be too early for the colors (but, you won't have the crowds w/o the
colors, either)...

FWIW,

-L

PS: running 32 Paselas w/ Tourguards...




On Sep 2, 6:32 pm, roadrunner  wrote:
> FWIW: I am running Marathon 35s on Mavic 622x19 rims with SKS fenders
> just fine on my 59 cm Canti-Romulus. All in preparation for packed
> gravel rail-trails riding in Virginia including the Virginia Creeper
> and New River in a few weeks.  Rode same across the Southern Tier and
> the Pacific Coast(Seattle to Montara), both trips fully loaded.
> Extremely versatile bike.

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[RBW] Re: Canti Rom Sizing

[EricP]

Am going to be a contrarian here.  At 6' and 89 PBH normally I'd be on
a 61 or so frame.  Except for the Bleriot, every single time I've
tried a Rivendell in that size it's felt like I've been on the rack.
Arms straight out with no bend to reach the hoods.  Scoot forward on
saddle to get into drops.  For those bikes, an 8, 7 or even 6 cm stem
would work best for me.

Yes, if I lost a lot more weight, would probably have more stomach
clearance and then could bend over easier and wouldn't need to
compromise setup.

Just pointing out that for some of us, top tube length is something to
take into consideration.

Eric Platt
St. Paul, MN

On Aug 5, 9:47 pm, Rene Sterental  wrote:
> Mike,
>
> I can run a 100mm stem but then I get pain in my neck as I'm not so
> flexible anymore. I believe that unless one is sort of
> disproportionate, Riv bikes fit really well based on PBH. Make some
> allowances for flexibility if you will. With your PBH being lower than
> mine, I'd say we're both riding frames based on our PBH. Stem
> selection finetunes thr fit, along with handlebar height.
>
> How this helps the OT I'm not sure... Unless he can find the
> recommended PBH range for the frame size he's looking at and knows
> whether he's of average proportions or not.
>
> I'd also suggest going for the middle of the range as usually there is
> some overlap.
>
> René
>
> On 8/5/10, Michael_S  wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > I think that a 59cm is on the tall side of the range for someone 5'
> > 9". As Seth said ,standover is usually secondary to the Top tube
> > measurement. Of course stem length and saddle setback can adjust for
> > minor ( 1-2cm) differences. I usually try to start with the top tube
> > measurement and a 100mm stem and pick a bike size that can work 10mm
> > either way. To me a bike with a 7 or 8 cm stem is a sign of a too big
> > bike. FWIW I am 5'11" and have a 85 PBM and usually end up on a 58 or
> > 59 cm frame.
>
> > ~Mike~
>
> > On Aug 5, 4:41 pm, Rene Sterental  wrote:
> >> I'm 5'11" with PBH of 89.5 and ride a 61cm AHH with 35mm tires and a
> >> 61cm Atlantis with 50mm tires. The Atlantis with the 50mm tires is
> >> quite taller, but gives me enough clearance. Bigger tires, assuming
> >> they'd fit would make it uncomfortable but still rideable.
>
> >> The top tube is perfect and I use 8cm stems on both.
>
> >> My saddle height is at 87 IIRC; otherwise it's at 77... I'm on
> >> vacation with the family and the sun is impairing my recolection...
> >> :-)
>
> >> René
>
> >> On 8/5/10, Ralph Rognstad Jr.  wrote:
>
> >> > I am just shy of 6'2" (PBH of 89) and ride a 63cm Canti Rom, usually
> >> > with 28's or 32's. Works for me, but did seem a little tall at first.
> >> > Ralph
>
> >> > jandrews_nyc wrote:
> >> >> Hi,
> >> >> I am helping a friend who is interested in purchasing a used
> >> >> Cantilever Romulus.  His PBH is 84.  The bike is a 59.  Riv website
> >> >> says for most smaller/av riders its PBH minus around 25 to get frame
> >> >> size...thats 84-25 = 59!but I'm nervous it will be way up there
> >> >> and the Romulus geometry chart has the standover for the Rom listed as
> >> >> 83.8cm and that's on 700x27's.  He'd like to put 700x35's on.
> >> >> Can anyone help me with this.  Experience with this frame.  Is a 59
> >> >> just a bit too big for a 5'9'' rider with a PBH of 84?
> >> >> Thank you!
> >> >> Jason
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[RBW] Re: Canti Rom Sizing

[Michael_S]

I think that a 59cm is on the tall side of the range for someone 5'
9". As Seth said ,standover is usually secondary to the Top tube
measurement. Of course stem length and saddle setback can adjust for
minor ( 1-2cm) differences. I usually try to start with the top tube
measurement and a 100mm stem and pick a bike size that can work 10mm
either way. To me a bike with a 7 or 8 cm stem is a sign of a too big
bike. FWIW I am 5'11" and have a 85 PBM and usually end up on a 58 or
59 cm frame.

~Mike~

On Aug 5, 4:41 pm, Rene Sterental  wrote:
> I'm 5'11" with PBH of 89.5 and ride a 61cm AHH with 35mm tires and a
> 61cm Atlantis with 50mm tires. The Atlantis with the 50mm tires is
> quite taller, but gives me enough clearance. Bigger tires, assuming
> they'd fit would make it uncomfortable but still rideable.
>
> The top tube is perfect and I use 8cm stems on both.
>
> My saddle height is at 87 IIRC; otherwise it's at 77... I'm on
> vacation with the family and the sun is impairing my recolection...
> :-)
>
> René
>
> On 8/5/10, Ralph Rognstad Jr.  wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > I am just shy of 6'2" (PBH of 89) and ride a 63cm Canti Rom, usually
> > with 28's or 32's. Works for me, but did seem a little tall at first. Ralph
>
> > jandrews_nyc wrote:
> >> Hi,
> >> I am helping a friend who is interested in purchasing a used
> >> Cantilever Romulus.  His PBH is 84.  The bike is a 59.  Riv website
> >> says for most smaller/av riders its PBH minus around 25 to get frame
> >> size...thats 84-25 = 59!but I'm nervous it will be way up there
> >> and the Romulus geometry chart has the standover for the Rom listed as
> >> 83.8cm and that's on 700x27's.  He'd like to put 700x35's on.
> >> Can anyone help me with this.  Experience with this frame.  Is a 59
> >> just a bit too big for a 5'9'' rider with a PBH of 84?
> >> Thank you!
> >> Jason
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[RBW] Re: canti-rom

[Esteban]

Rom porn:

http://www.flickr.com/search/?q=romulus%20rivendell&w=all

Quite a handsome bicycle.  I love mine (sidepull 59").  I sometimes
think of selling it to help fund an Ebisu or Toei but this bike
does everything I need it to...

Esteban
San Diego, Calif.

On Dec 3, 9:04 am, franklyn  wrote:
> I had two Romulus--the first one a 59cm side-pull 
> (http://www.flickr.com/photos/franklyn/sets/72157600050554321/) that was just
> a tad too big for me (so I thought at the time, but my idea of fitting
> has changed since, and the second one a 57cm (http://www.flickr.com/
> photos/franklyn/sets/72157603538257284/) that I bought used to replace
> the 59cm. I ended up selling the 57cm Romulus last year to fund a
> custom bike. I like the Romulus a lot as a all-round road bike. I also
> prefer the appearance over its fancier cousins. My taste has trended
> toward simple--thus my current choice of Ebisu.
>
> If I have the space and extra cash, i would have kept my Romulus.
>
> Franklyn
>
> On Dec 3, 8:11 am, Cycletex  wrote:
>
>
>
> > I agree Seth. I really like my Quickbeam lugs. Nothing fancy, just
> > simple lugs. Nicely understated as you say.
>
> > On Dec 3, 7:08 am, Seth Vidal  wrote:
>
> > > I just received the canti-rom frame/fork last night. It is in rather
> > > stunning shape and after looking it over I have to ask:
>
> > >  Does anyone know why riv stopped making the simpler lug design? The
> > > more ornate lugs like on the AHH and atlantis are beautiful but there
> > > is something nicely understated about the ones on the romulus. I don't
> > > know about anyone else but if there was  a bike riv was going to bring
> > > back as a taiwanese-built model I think this would be a good choice.
> > > It's just beautiful.
>
> > > -sv

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[RBW] Re: canti-rom

[franklyn]

I had two Romulus--the first one a 59cm side-pull (http://
www.flickr.com/photos/franklyn/sets/72157600050554321/) that was just
a tad too big for me (so I thought at the time, but my idea of fitting
has changed since, and the second one a 57cm (http://www.flickr.com/
photos/franklyn/sets/72157603538257284/) that I bought used to replace
the 59cm. I ended up selling the 57cm Romulus last year to fund a
custom bike. I like the Romulus a lot as a all-round road bike. I also
prefer the appearance over its fancier cousins. My taste has trended
toward simple--thus my current choice of Ebisu.

If I have the space and extra cash, i would have kept my Romulus.

Franklyn

On Dec 3, 8:11 am, Cycletex  wrote:
> I agree Seth. I really like my Quickbeam lugs. Nothing fancy, just
> simple lugs. Nicely understated as you say.
>
> On Dec 3, 7:08 am, Seth Vidal  wrote:
>
> > I just received the canti-rom frame/fork last night. It is in rather
> > stunning shape and after looking it over I have to ask:
>
> >  Does anyone know why riv stopped making the simpler lug design? The
> > more ornate lugs like on the AHH and atlantis are beautiful but there
> > is something nicely understated about the ones on the romulus. I don't
> > know about anyone else but if there was  a bike riv was going to bring
> > back as a taiwanese-built model I think this would be a good choice.
> > It's just beautiful.
>
> > -sv
>
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[RBW] Re: canti-rom

[Cycletex]

I agree Seth. I really like my Quickbeam lugs. Nothing fancy, just
simple lugs. Nicely understated as you say.

On Dec 3, 7:08 am, Seth Vidal  wrote:
> I just received the canti-rom frame/fork last night. It is in rather
> stunning shape and after looking it over I have to ask:
>
>  Does anyone know why riv stopped making the simpler lug design? The
> more ornate lugs like on the AHH and atlantis are beautiful but there
> is something nicely understated about the ones on the romulus. I don't
> know about anyone else but if there was  a bike riv was going to bring
> back as a taiwanese-built model I think this would be a good choice.
> It's just beautiful.
>
> -sv

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RE: [RBW] Re: canti-rom

[Allingham II, Thomas J]

Seth: Try www.bike123.com. Larry Black, who runs the place, has something like 
2500 bikes, and I think he still has an almost new Rom for sale.  I think it's 
a 59 or 61.  He quoted me $2000, but maybe he'll negotiate; I didn't pursue it. 

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To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [RBW] Re: canti-rom

On Thu, Dec 3, 2009 at 9:40 AM, newenglandbike  wrote:
>
>
> On Dec 3, 8:08 am, Seth Vidal  wrote:
>> I just received the canti-rom frame/fork last night.
>
> Congrats on such a nice bike man!   Those are pretty hard to find, I 
> understand.   Plus, I'm guessing the cantis will let you run slightly 
> larger tires with fenders?   I agree, the Romulus and Redwood are 
> among the nicest bikes Rivendell has put out there.   It's a shame 
> they couldn't be continued for very long.
>

Well, I won't get to keep it for long. It's getting a headset pressed on today 
and it is off to my brother's house for him.
...

hmmm..

If anyone out there has a romulus in a 59 or a 61 they are considering thinning 
out  they should let me know, I may want to be all matchy-matchy with my 
brother. :) Or maybe I should wait to see what next year brings from riv.

-sv

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Re: [RBW] Re: canti-rom

[Seth Vidal]

On Thu, Dec 3, 2009 at 9:40 AM, newenglandbike  wrote:
>
>
> On Dec 3, 8:08 am, Seth Vidal  wrote:
>> I just received the canti-rom frame/fork last night.
>
> Congrats on such a nice bike man!   Those are pretty hard to find, I
> understand.   Plus, I'm guessing the cantis will let you run slightly
> larger tires with fenders?   I agree, the Romulus and Redwood are
> among the nicest bikes Rivendell has put out there.   It's a shame
> they couldn't be continued for very long.
>

Well, I won't get to keep it for long. It's getting a headset pressed
on today and it is off to my brother's house for him.
...

hmmm..

If anyone out there has a romulus in a 59 or a 61 they are considering
thinning out  they should let me know, I may want to be all
matchy-matchy with my brother. :) Or maybe I should wait to see what
next year brings from riv.

-sv

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[RBW] Re: canti-rom

[newenglandbike]

On Dec 3, 8:08 am, Seth Vidal  wrote:
> I just received the canti-rom frame/fork last night.

Congrats on such a nice bike man!   Those are pretty hard to find, I
understand.   Plus, I'm guessing the cantis will let you run slightly
larger tires with fenders?   I agree, the Romulus and Redwood are
among the nicest bikes Rivendell has put out there.   It's a shame
they couldn't be continued for very long.

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[RBW] Re: canti-rom

[Rocky B]

actually the lugs on the romulus look just like the lugs on the
quickbeam...

On Dec 3, 8:07 am, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery 
wrote:
> I had a canti-rom for awhile. It was a wonderful bicycle for long road
> rides, and I liked the simple lugs, 1-color paint, etc.
>
> Actually, the lugs on the Atlantis and other Japanese frames got much
> more ornate toward the end. Perhaps GP thought that fancier lugs would
> help justify the rapidly increasing prices during the last couple
> years, or maybe the extra cost in the lugwork seemed tiny compared to
> the extra cost from currency exchange. In any case, the simpler,
> rounded lugs of ~2004/2005-ish were more of a middle point than an
> ultimate end of the evolution of these frames.
>
> On Dec 3, 7:08 am, Seth Vidal  wrote:
>
>
>
> > I just received the canti-rom frame/fork last night. It is in rather
> > stunning shape and after looking it over I have to ask:
>
> >  Does anyone know why riv stopped making the simpler lug design? The
> > more ornate lugs like on the AHH and atlantis are beautiful but there
> > is something nicely understated about the ones on the romulus. I don't
> > know about anyone else but if there was  a bike riv was going to bring
> > back as a taiwanese-built model I think this would be a good choice.
> > It's just beautiful.
>
> > -sv- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

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[RBW] Re: canti-rom

[Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery]

I had a canti-rom for awhile. It was a wonderful bicycle for long road
rides, and I liked the simple lugs, 1-color paint, etc.

Actually, the lugs on the Atlantis and other Japanese frames got much
more ornate toward the end. Perhaps GP thought that fancier lugs would
help justify the rapidly increasing prices during the last couple
years, or maybe the extra cost in the lugwork seemed tiny compared to
the extra cost from currency exchange. In any case, the simpler,
rounded lugs of ~2004/2005-ish were more of a middle point than an
ultimate end of the evolution of these frames.



On Dec 3, 7:08 am, Seth Vidal  wrote:
> I just received the canti-rom frame/fork last night. It is in rather
> stunning shape and after looking it over I have to ask:
>
>  Does anyone know why riv stopped making the simpler lug design? The
> more ornate lugs like on the AHH and atlantis are beautiful but there
> is something nicely understated about the ones on the romulus. I don't
> know about anyone else but if there was  a bike riv was going to bring
> back as a taiwanese-built model I think this would be a good choice.
> It's just beautiful.
>
> -sv

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