Re: [RBW] Saddle Position Question

[Patrick Moore]

I don't recall the name, but I don't think it was Salsa, since this maker
(I used the post with a Pro some 10+ years ago) was from a small, boutique
maker. I do recall the the design included a stubby tube at the top of the
shaft, and the cradle rotating around this stub, with a separate bolt for
rotation and a separate one for saddle rail position in the clamps. All was
silver. IIRC, there was only moderate setback, but it wasn't a zero-setback
post like the earlier Sycros I owned.

On Sun, Jan 5, 2020 at 6:40 AM George Schick  wrote:

> "... I could never get the tilt right, and this was even after I invested
> in an infinitely-adjustable-tile post -- forget name -- that had an easily
> rotated tilt separate from the fore/aft adjustment ..."
>
> Patrick - was it a Salsa Shaft?  I've got one of those on two different
> bikes and they're the most "finely tunable" seat post I've ever owned.
>
> On Thursday, January 2, 2020 at 11:59:38 AM UTC-6, Patrick Moore wrote:
>>
>> Saddle choice and setup is as personal as love, so I offer this FWIW. But
>> my experience is that tilt is as crucial to comfort as height and sit bones
>> and fore/aft position, and that a bad position will have to sliding forward
>> to put excessive weight on shoulders, arms, and hands.
>>
>> I've tried the following Brooks saddles, at least one of each, with some,
>> multiple iterations.
>> B 17
>> B 17 N
>> Pro
>> Flyer
>> B 67
>> The situp-and-beg model like the B 67 but without the springs
>>
>> Also:
>>
>> Sugino Belt
>> Ideal of some sort, at least 1 if not 2 of these.
>>
>> For all of them, I found that tilt was crucial to comfort (and I'm not
>> using "crucial" in any sly secret way), far more so than with any other of
>> the many other makes and models I've used.
>>
>> I found that, on road bikes, the Pro was the most comfortable; the B 17
>> and even B 17 N chafed. But while the Pro was comfortable in butt and
>> thighs, I could never get the tilt right, and this was even after I
>> invested in an infinitely-adjustable-tile post -- forget name -- that had
>> an easily rotated tilt separate from the fore/aft adjustment. The Pro was
>> as comfortable, tilt apart, as the original issue Flites I now use, but I
>> could never get it adjusted just right to avoid sliding forward and getting
>> goosed.
>>
>> On Thu, Jan 2, 2020 at 9:41 AM Andrew Nussbaum  wrote:
>>
>>> I'm in the process of dialing in the fit on my Toyo Atlantis
>>>  and am in need of the
>>> group's advice on saddle positioning. I'm using albatross bars for a more
>>> upright position--a choice which I've come to love.  But when I sit more
>>> upright, I'm noticing that I slide "down" on my B17 saddle. I have
>>> positioned the saddle to be parallel to the ground, with perhaps a slight
>>> upward tilt.  I'd like my sit bones to be resting on the rear of the
>>> saddle.  Should I simply give the saddle a more upward tilt?  Any thoughts
>>> are welcome.
>>>
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Re: [RBW] Saddle Position Question

[George Schick]

"... I could never get the tilt right, and this was even after I invested 
in an infinitely-adjustable-tile post -- forget name -- that had an easily 
rotated tilt separate from the fore/aft adjustment ..."

Patrick - was it a Salsa Shaft?  I've got one of those on two different 
bikes and they're the most "finely tunable" seat post I've ever owned.  

On Thursday, January 2, 2020 at 11:59:38 AM UTC-6, Patrick Moore wrote:
>
> Saddle choice and setup is as personal as love, so I offer this FWIW. But 
> my experience is that tilt is as crucial to comfort as height and sit bones 
> and fore/aft position, and that a bad position will have to sliding forward 
> to put excessive weight on shoulders, arms, and hands.
>
> I've tried the following Brooks saddles, at least one of each, with some, 
> multiple iterations.
> B 17
> B 17 N
> Pro
> Flyer
> B 67
> The situp-and-beg model like the B 67 but without the springs
>
> Also:
>
> Sugino Belt
> Ideal of some sort, at least 1 if not 2 of these.
>
> For all of them, I found that tilt was crucial to comfort (and I'm not 
> using "crucial" in any sly secret way), far more so than with any other of 
> the many other makes and models I've used. 
>
> I found that, on road bikes, the Pro was the most comfortable; the B 17 
> and even B 17 N chafed. But while the Pro was comfortable in butt and 
> thighs, I could never get the tilt right, and this was even after I 
> invested in an infinitely-adjustable-tile post -- forget name -- that had 
> an easily rotated tilt separate from the fore/aft adjustment. The Pro was 
> as comfortable, tilt apart, as the original issue Flites I now use, but I 
> could never get it adjusted just right to avoid sliding forward and getting 
> goosed.
>
> On Thu, Jan 2, 2020 at 9:41 AM Andrew Nussbaum  > wrote:
>
>> I'm in the process of dialing in the fit on my Toyo Atlantis 
>>  and am in need of the 
>> group's advice on saddle positioning. I'm using albatross bars for a more 
>> upright position--a choice which I've come to love.  But when I sit more 
>> upright, I'm noticing that I slide "down" on my B17 saddle. I have 
>> positioned the saddle to be parallel to the ground, with perhaps a slight 
>> upward tilt.  I'd like my sit bones to be resting on the rear of the 
>> saddle.  Should I simply give the saddle a more upward tilt?  Any thoughts 
>> are welcome.  
>>
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>>  
>> 
>> .
>>
>
>
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>
>
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Re: [RBW] Saddle Position Question

[Tom Norton]

My B17 tilt,in the words of Doug Fattic,is an aberation!! But it has to be 
there or I slide forward.

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Re: [RBW] Saddle Position Question

[Peter White]

https://www.peterwhitecycles.com/fitting.php

On Thu, Jan 2, 2020 at 11:41 AM Andrew Nussbaum  wrote:

> I'm in the process of dialing in the fit on my Toyo Atlantis
>  and am in need of the
> group's advice on saddle positioning. I'm using albatross bars for a more
> upright position--a choice which I've come to love.  But when I sit more
> upright, I'm noticing that I slide "down" on my B17 saddle. I have
> positioned the saddle to be parallel to the ground, with perhaps a slight
> upward tilt.  I'd like my sit bones to be resting on the rear of the
> saddle.  Should I simply give the saddle a more upward tilt?  Any thoughts
> are welcome.
>
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Re: [RBW] Saddle Position Question

[Patrick Moore]

Saddle choice and setup is as personal as love, so I offer this FWIW. But
my experience is that tilt is as crucial to comfort as height and sit bones
and fore/aft position, and that a bad position will have to sliding forward
to put excessive weight on shoulders, arms, and hands.

I've tried the following Brooks saddles, at least one of each, with some,
multiple iterations.
B 17
B 17 N
Pro
Flyer
B 67
The situp-and-beg model like the B 67 but without the springs

Also:

Sugino Belt
Ideal of some sort, at least 1 if not 2 of these.

For all of them, I found that tilt was crucial to comfort (and I'm not
using "crucial" in any sly secret way), far more so than with any other of
the many other makes and models I've used.

I found that, on road bikes, the Pro was the most comfortable; the B 17 and
even B 17 N chafed. But while the Pro was comfortable in butt and thighs, I
could never get the tilt right, and this was even after I invested in an
infinitely-adjustable-tile post -- forget name -- that had an easily
rotated tilt separate from the fore/aft adjustment. The Pro was as
comfortable, tilt apart, as the original issue Flites I now use, but I
could never get it adjusted just right to avoid sliding forward and getting
goosed.

On Thu, Jan 2, 2020 at 9:41 AM Andrew Nussbaum  wrote:

> I'm in the process of dialing in the fit on my Toyo Atlantis
>  and am in need of the
> group's advice on saddle positioning. I'm using albatross bars for a more
> upright position--a choice which I've come to love.  But when I sit more
> upright, I'm noticing that I slide "down" on my B17 saddle. I have
> positioned the saddle to be parallel to the ground, with perhaps a slight
> upward tilt.  I'd like my sit bones to be resting on the rear of the
> saddle.  Should I simply give the saddle a more upward tilt?  Any thoughts
> are welcome.
>
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[RBW] Saddle Position Question

[Joe Bernard]

What Tom said, plus you may find that what looks and feels almost comically 
up-tilted at first becomes the thing you like. I find the rear portion of a 
broken-in B17 to be as comfy as a couch, and with the saddle tilted way back so 
there isn't even a hint of sliding forward/down towards the bars. Rich @ Riv 
uses this position, and you can get a look at mine on my "eClem again" thread. 

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[RBW] Saddle Position Question

[tc]

Yep, continue tilting the nose up no more than 1/8” at a time till it feels 
right. I know that doesn’t sound like much, but you need to do this in small 
increments. You’ll know it when you’ve reached the right tilt for you. 
Everyone’s different...

Tom

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[RBW] Saddle Position Question

[Andrew Nussbaum]

I'm in the process of dialing in the fit on my Toyo Atlantis 
 and am in need of the group's 
advice on saddle positioning. I'm using albatross bars for a more upright 
position--a choice which I've come to love.  But when I sit more upright, 
I'm noticing that I slide "down" on my B17 saddle. I have positioned the 
saddle to be parallel to the ground, with perhaps a slight upward tilt.  
I'd like my sit bones to be resting on the rear of the saddle.  Should I 
simply give the saddle a more upward tilt?  Any thoughts are welcome.  

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