Re: [RBW] Saddles for wet butts

[Lester Lammers]

Riv has Aardvark saddle covers, they work and are less $ than another 
saddle.

On Monday, June 24, 2019 at 2:01:41 AM UTC-4, Joe Bernard wrote:
>
> Or just cover your trusty leather saddle. 10 miles is too long for me to 
> fake it, I gotta have my B17. 

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Re: [RBW] Saddles for wet butts

[Lester Lammers]

Covering it with a plastic bag would help too.

On Monday, June 24, 2019 at 12:15:24 AM UTC-4, Drw wrote:
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> Thanks Dave. This is great Info and what I was hoping to hear. 

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Re: [RBW] Saddles for wet butts

[Nick Payne]

The normal Cambium doesn't seem to have any problem with rain either. The 
one on my touring bike has been ridden multiple times in day-long rain, and 
hasn't suffered.

On Monday, 24 June 2019 12:12:16 UTC+10, David Bivins wrote:
>
> The all-weather Cambium will last forever. It's basically a plastic 
> saddle. You can wipe off water with your hand and keep your bum dry. It's 
> wonderful. You'll never have to replace it.
>
> On Sun, Jun 23, 2019 at 9:27 PM Drw > 
> wrote:
>
>> I want to start riding my bike to the beach, swim, ride home. It’s like a 
>> 10 mile round trip. I don’t want to bring/change clothes. My guess is the 
>> all weather cambium would fit the bill, but would I be better off with a 
>> cheapo throwaway that I can replace after the warm season?
>>
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Re: [RBW] Saddles for wet butts

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Or just cover your trusty leather saddle. 10 miles is too long for me to fake 
it, I gotta have my B17. 

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Re: [RBW] Saddles for wet butts

[Drw]

Thanks Dave. This is great Info and what I was hoping to hear. 

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Re: [RBW] Saddles for wet butts

[David Bivins]

The all-weather Cambium will last forever. It's basically a plastic saddle.
You can wipe off water with your hand and keep your bum dry. It's
wonderful. You'll never have to replace it.

On Sun, Jun 23, 2019 at 9:27 PM Drw  wrote:

> I want to start riding my bike to the beach, swim, ride home. It’s like a
> 10 mile round trip. I don’t want to bring/change clothes. My guess is the
> all weather cambium would fit the bill, but would I be better off with a
> cheapo throwaway that I can replace after the warm season?
>
> I guess I’m asking what can withstand the wet, salt and sand... or if
> there is a thing.
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[RBW] Saddles for wet butts

[Drw]

I want to start riding my bike to the beach, swim, ride home. It’s like a 10 
mile round trip. I don’t want to bring/change clothes. My guess is the all 
weather cambium would fit the bill, but would I be better off with a cheapo 
throwaway that I can replace after the warm season? 

I guess I’m asking what can withstand the wet, salt and sand... or if there is 
a thing.

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[RBW] Saddles destroying my jeans! Advice?

['Mojo' via RBW Owners Bunch]

I too have found the WTB saddles quite comfortable. The Pure is about 148mm 
across the back (from memory), and like Brooks has a flat back and a fore-aft 
dip. The make four different Pure saddles starting at about $40.

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Re: [RBW] Saddles destroying my jeans! Advice?

[Christopher Murray]

Get some Wranglers!! 

Cheers!
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Re: [RBW] Saddles destroying my jeans! Advice?

[Bill Gibson]

Slick Saddle Cover. Slides a little, so it wears out instead of pants.
Don't need to go fancy. Even a shower cap works. I'm not sure the stretchy
vinyl kind of saddle covers are still around, which are good, but I have a
Carradice that works. But you know why bike shorts are black.

On Mon, Apr 3, 2017 at 7:56 PM, Eric Karnes  wrote:

> Hi all-
>
> Looking for some advice. I have a Brooks Cambium on my SimpleOne commuter.
> I love the saddle, but it's destroyed two pairs of nice jeans in very short
> order (and every leather Brooks I've had has bled dye pretty badly). I'd
> love to solve it with a dedicated pair of riding pants, but this is my main
> mode of transportation, so I need to be able to ride it in my everyday
> clothes.
>
> Anyone recommend a saddle that doesn't wear out the crotches of pants too
> easily and doesn't bleed dye? It needn't be super comfortable over long
> distances, as this is my city ride.
>
> Thanks!
>
> Eric
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[RBW] Saddles destroying my jeans! Advice?

[Eric Karnes]

Hi all-

Looking for some advice. I have a Brooks Cambium on my SimpleOne commuter. I 
love the saddle, but it's destroyed two pairs of nice jeans in very short order 
(and every leather Brooks I've had has bled dye pretty badly). I'd love to 
solve it with a dedicated pair of riding pants, but this is my main mode of 
transportation, so I need to be able to ride it in my everyday clothes.

Anyone recommend a saddle that doesn't wear out the crotches of pants too 
easily and doesn't bleed dye? It needn't be super comfortable over long 
distances, as this is my city ride.

Thanks!

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Re: [RBW] Saddles

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On 04/06/2016 11:22 PM, DonandDebi Ward wrote:

I have the Berthoud Aravis which is extremely comfortable and have used for 
several brevets of various lengths.  It took about 500 miles before it was just 
right, I have about 5,000  miles on this saddle.


The Aravis is the Ti rail version; the steel railed version of this 
saddle is called the Aspin, and it's about $85 less.   I've got four of 
the Aspins and one Aravis.  Totally agree about the 500 miles.




I also have a Rivet Pearl which I also like, it took  1,000 miles before it was 
just right but the cut out irritated my privates a bit.  I solved that by using 
a saddles cover all the time, probably have 2,000 miles on this one.


I tried a Pearl (and and Indy) and neither worked for me.




Just put a brand new Brooks C17 on one of my rando bikes went for a 30 mile 
ride after work.  First ride out of the box just as comfortable as my Berthoud 
and more comfortable than the Rivet.  Half the price of the Berthoud and less 
than the Rivet.  Better looking, better construction than the Rivet and on par 
in both these areas w the Berthoud.  Absolutely no break in period necessary 
with the C17.  Will be buying more c17's in the future for dome of my other 
bikes.


.


Took a C17 around the parking lot on a friend's bike and it didn't work 
for me at all, couldn't bear to be on it.


YMMV for sure.

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[RBW] Saddles

[DonandDebi Ward]

I have the Berthoud Aravis which is extremely comfortable and have used for 
several brevets of various lengths.  It took about 500 miles before it was just 
right, I have about 5,000  miles on this saddle.

I also have a Rivet Pearl which I also like, it took  1,000 miles before it was 
just right but the cut out irritated my privates a bit.  I solved that by using 
a saddles cover all the time, probably have 2,000 miles on this one.

Just put a brand new Brooks C17 on one of my rando bikes went for a 30 mile 
ride after work.  First ride out of the box just as comfortable as my Berthoud 
and more comfortable than the Rivet.  Half the price of the Berthoud and less 
than the Rivet.  Better looking, better construction than the Rivet and on par 
in both these areas w the Berthoud.  Absolutely no break in period necessary 
with the C17.  Will be buying more c17's in the future for dome of my other 
bikes.


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Re: [RBW] Saddles

[Jim Bronson]

Just to be contrary, I use a Terry Liberator Y Gel and it's the favorite
saddle I've ever had.
On Apr 5, 2016 9:41 AM, "Jay in Tel Aviv"  wrote:

> Seeking the collective wisdom of the group before spending $$ on
> another new saddle that may or may not fit me on my Sam Hillborne.
>
> HISTORY
> Brooks B17N - too narrow, what was I thinking?
> Brooks B17 - OK, never really comfortable, just OK. Have to sit way back
> for sufficient width
> Selle Anatomica - very comfortable even if slightly narrower than the B17.
> Perfect except for the broken rims. Bent 2 - no mas.
> Brooks C17 - OK, similar to the B17
> Brooks B17 imperial (with laces and cutout) - similar to B17. This time I
> used emperical observation to check the width. I used my han to feel under
> the saddle for my sit bones. Sitting all the way back, one is just insode
> the rivets and the other is actually hanging off. Saddle is all the way
> back on a VO setback post. Alba bars.
>
> IDEAS
> Brooks B68 - no longer made
> Brooks C19 - wider than the B17
> Rivet Pearl - slightly narrower than the B17 but people seem to love them
> and the Selle Anatomicas were great until they broke.
> Great prices for either on xxcycle.com
>
> What say you wise folks?
>
> Thanks,
> Jay
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[RBW] Saddles, epilogue

[Jay in Tel Aviv]

I ordered the Rivet.
That means I will have an almost new Honey B17 Imperial for sale in a 
couple weeks.
Stay tuned.
 
Jay

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[RBW] Saddles

[Jay in Tel Aviv]

Seeking the collective wisdom of the group before spending $$ on 
another new saddle that may or may not fit me on my Sam Hillborne.
 
HISTORY
Brooks B17N - too narrow, what was I thinking?
Brooks B17 - OK, never really comfortable, just OK. Have to sit way back 
for sufficient width
Selle Anatomica - very comfortable even if slightly narrower than the B17. 
Perfect except for the broken rims. Bent 2 - no mas.
Brooks C17 - OK, similar to the B17
Brooks B17 imperial (with laces and cutout) - similar to B17. This time I 
used emperical observation to check the width. I used my han to feel under 
the saddle for my sit bones. Sitting all the way back, one is just insode 
the rivets and the other is actually hanging off. Saddle is all the way 
back on a VO setback post. Alba bars.
 
IDEAS
Brooks B68 - no longer made
Brooks C19 - wider than the B17
Rivet Pearl - slightly narrower than the B17 but people seem to love them 
and the Selle Anatomicas were great until they broke.
Great prices for either on xxcycle.com
 
What say you wise folks?
 
Thanks,
Jay
 
 

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Re: [RBW] Saddles - A Weighty Question

[Philip Williamson]

I'm impressed, Eric, that you dropped 80+ pounds (dang), and I appreciate 
your using at present instead of presently. I work with a very kind 
English major who misuses presently every time he can. 

I'm at 241, and I was 250 for the last couple years. No issues at all with 
my 9 year old Brooks B17 saddle rails. I think leaning forward will put 
less stress on the rails, compared to sitting dead upright on the saddle, 
because your body will act as another spring. Pedaling harder will 
similarly unweight the seat, so if your Rivendell works like mine, you'll 
be fine. My wife did break her B72 rails (one, then another one). I 
replaced them with a donor chassis: 
http://www.biketinker.com/2011/projects/brooks-saddle-repaired/ that has 
held up for a couple of years. I think it was more the iffy seat post clamp 
than any weight issue, but she's not a flyweight either.  

I think a B17 would work fine for a long time, but adjusting your existing 
saddle a bit fore and aft and tweaking the tilt a bit could bring 
everything together again as well. Basically what everyone else said...

Philip 
www.biketinker.com




On Sunday, August 25, 2013 5:56:14 PM UTC-7, EricP wrote:

 When I was using a B-17 my weight was over 300 (at the start) down to the 
 220 range.  Never had a problem with the rails.  Not using them at present, 
 but it is unrelated to my weight. 
 Eric Platt
 St. Paul, MN


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  wrote:

 Hi all, 

 I have a Brooks B67 S saddle on my Betty Foy, but I'm finding that the 
 saddle isn't as comfortable as it used to be when I was riding completely 
 upright on my Dutch bike. I'm leaning a bit more forward on the Betty Foy, 
 and that's putting some uncomfortable pressure on sensitive parts. 

 My concern is that because I'm a heavyweight rider, a saddle like the B17 
 won't stand up to my weight, and I'll damage the seat rails. Have any of 
 you who are in excess of 220# had any issues with the B17 saddle? 

 If you have other recommendations, I'm happy to entertain them. 

 Thanks!
 Cecily

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Re: [RBW] Saddles - A Weighty Question

[Eric Platt]

Philip,

Thank you.  Actually have dropped between 130--140 pounds from peak (was
370).  Pretty sure I purchased the first B-17 while still in the 350
range.  Figured it should be able to hold my weight.  However, have a touch
of doubt to when it was first purchased, so erred on the side of caution
with weight.

As silly as it seems, don't believe I've ever bent Brooks rails in the
past, although many of my friends who weigh less have.  And it is not due
to superior bike handling skills.  More likely pure, dumb luck.

Will join the choir on suggesting adjust a lot first before trying
something else.

As to seatposts, have only had slippage issues with Nitto posts.  Happened
with two different posts on two different bikes.  But as no one else seems
to have this problem, it's probably unique to my riding technique and
style.

Eric Platt
St. Paul, MN


On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 1:19 AM, Philip Williamson 
philip.william...@gmail.com wrote:

 I'm impressed, Eric, that you dropped 80+ pounds (dang), and I appreciate
 your using at present instead of presently. I work with a very kind
 English major who misuses presently every time he can.

 I'm at 241, and I was 250 for the last couple years. No issues at all with
 my 9 year old Brooks B17 saddle rails. I think leaning forward will put
 less stress on the rails, compared to sitting dead upright on the saddle,
 because your body will act as another spring. Pedaling harder will
 similarly unweight the seat, so if your Rivendell works like mine, you'll
 be fine. My wife did break her B72 rails (one, then another one). I
 replaced them with a donor chassis:
 http://www.biketinker.com/2011/projects/brooks-saddle-repaired/ that has
 held up for a couple of years. I think it was more the iffy seat post clamp
 than any weight issue, but she's not a flyweight either.

 I think a B17 would work fine for a long time, but adjusting your existing
 saddle a bit fore and aft and tweaking the tilt a bit could bring
 everything together again as well. Basically what everyone else said...

 Philip
 www.biketinker.com





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[RBW] Saddles - A Weighty Question

[Cecily Walker]

Hi all, 

I have a Brooks B67 S saddle on my Betty Foy, but I'm finding that the 
saddle isn't as comfortable as it used to be when I was riding completely 
upright on my Dutch bike. I'm leaning a bit more forward on the Betty Foy, 
and that's putting some uncomfortable pressure on sensitive parts. 

My concern is that because I'm a heavyweight rider, a saddle like the B17 
won't stand up to my weight, and I'll damage the seat rails. Have any of 
you who are in excess of 220# had any issues with the B17 saddle? 

If you have other recommendations, I'm happy to entertain them. 

Thanks!
Cecily

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Re: [RBW] Saddles - A Weighty Question

[Eric Platt]

When I was using a B-17 my weight was over 300 (at the start) down to the
220 range.  Never had a problem with the rails.  Not using them at present,
but it is unrelated to my weight.
Eric Platt
St. Paul, MN


On Sun, Aug 25, 2013 at 7:42 PM, Cecily Walker cecily.wal...@gmail.comwrote:

 Hi all,

 I have a Brooks B67 S saddle on my Betty Foy, but I'm finding that the
 saddle isn't as comfortable as it used to be when I was riding completely
 upright on my Dutch bike. I'm leaning a bit more forward on the Betty Foy,
 and that's putting some uncomfortable pressure on sensitive parts.

 My concern is that because I'm a heavyweight rider, a saddle like the B17
 won't stand up to my weight, and I'll damage the seat rails. Have any of
 you who are in excess of 220# had any issues with the B17 saddle?

 If you have other recommendations, I'm happy to entertain them.

 Thanks!
 Cecily

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Re: [RBW] Saddles - A Weighty Question

[Anne Paulson]

I don't think there would be an issue with a B17 as far as weight.

I do, however, think you may end up considering a saddle with a
cutout. If a B17 or a B67 is causing pressure where you don't want any
pressure, you'll try tilting the nose down, but tilting the nose down
enough to get the front of the saddle out of the way makes you slide
forward off the saddle.

On Sun, Aug 25, 2013 at 5:42 PM, Cecily Walker cecily.wal...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi all,

 I have a Brooks B67 S saddle on my Betty Foy, but I'm finding that the
 saddle isn't as comfortable as it used to be when I was riding completely
 upright on my Dutch bike. I'm leaning a bit more forward on the Betty Foy,
 and that's putting some uncomfortable pressure on sensitive parts.

 My concern is that because I'm a heavyweight rider, a saddle like the B17
 won't stand up to my weight, and I'll damage the seat rails. Have any of you
 who are in excess of 220# had any issues with the B17 saddle?

 If you have other recommendations, I'm happy to entertain them.

 Thanks!
 Cecily

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Re: [RBW] Saddles - A Weighty Question

[Cecily Walker]

Yes, Anne's right. I've experimented with tilting the saddle downward on 
other bikes, and whenever I did that I ended up sliding forward. I'll try a 
really small adjustment to see if that helps, but I'm reluctant to tilt it 
down too far. 

I'll consider a saddle with a cutout after I've monkeyed around with the 
saddle a bit more. 

On Sunday, August 25, 2013 8:36:18 PM UTC-7, Anne Paulson wrote:

 I don't think there would be an issue with a B17 as far as weight. 

 I do, however, think you may end up considering a saddle with a 
 cutout. If a B17 or a B67 is causing pressure where you don't want any 
 pressure, you'll try tilting the nose down, but tilting the nose down 
 enough to get the front of the saddle out of the way makes you slide 
 forward off the saddle. 

 On Sun, Aug 25, 2013 at 5:42 PM, Cecily Walker 
 cecily...@gmail.comjavascript: 
 wrote: 
  Hi all, 
  
  I have a Brooks B67 S saddle on my Betty Foy, but I'm finding that the 
  saddle isn't as comfortable as it used to be when I was riding 
 completely 
  upright on my Dutch bike. I'm leaning a bit more forward on the Betty 
 Foy, 
  and that's putting some uncomfortable pressure on sensitive parts. 
  
  My concern is that because I'm a heavyweight rider, a saddle like the 
 B17 
  won't stand up to my weight, and I'll damage the seat rails. Have any of 
 you 
  who are in excess of 220# had any issues with the B17 saddle? 
  
  If you have other recommendations, I'm happy to entertain them. 
  
  Thanks! 
  Cecily 
  
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[RBW] Saddles Sold

[Eric Norris]

Both the Avocet and Selle San Marco are on their way to new homes. Thanks to 
everyone for your interest.

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[RBW] Saddles for Sale

[Eric Norris]

Selle San Marcos and Avocet. Photos and info here:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/campyonlyguy/sets/7215762957954/with/7133452615/

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[RBW] Saddles, Racks, 'N Tires for sale

[Marc Schwartz]

Prices include shipping to CONUS. Thank you all for any interest.

Velo Orange Constructeur front rack. Never used, never mounted. Like new.
This is an older version made of chrome plated carbon steel, easier to cut, 
drill, and bend than the current stainless steel model. No pre-drilled holes in 
lower mounting tabs.  All else identical to current catalog version.  No 
mounting hardware is included. $55.00

Velo Orange Constructeur rear rack. Never used, never mounted. Like new. 
Stainless Steel. Current catalog version, includes provided mounting bolts.
$45.00

Brooks Professional Saddle, large copper rivets, copper rails. Excellent 
lightly used condition. $80.00

Velo Orange model 6 saddle. Similar shape to Brooks Swallow.  Natural cowhide 
color (light tan) no longer available. Excellent lightly used condition.
$60.00

 Lightly used pair of Panaracer Col de la Vie. Approx 500 miles used.  $40.00/ 
pair

Photos will be emailed individually upon request. Sold to first confirmed I'll 
buy it. Paypal please. Please reply to mschw...@nmsu.edu 

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[RBW] Saddles

[avillage]

Howdy. This is a bit embarassing and here goes anyway. I cycle commute
to work each day on my Bleriot with a Brooks B-17. The saddle was
reasonably comfortable and I thought it would break in and do the job.
Previously, I'd ridden an Avocet O2 for years, a wonderful saddle,
nearly as wide as the B-17, comfy, just right. They are no more, I
think, after a long search. Anyway, I rode throughout this year
noticing that the B-17 just wasn't that comfortable for me. Then,
recently, I get this small knot on my butt right just in front of
the sits bones that is not terribly painful against the saddle. Red in
color, etc. I just returned from a hiking trip in the West and the
knot is much smaller. Upon returning, I make a trip to the doc (not
just for the know, but a 20,000 mile tune-up), she looks at the knot
and believes it nothing, probably caused by the hard saddle.

Ok, so now what to do...the B-17 has not been totally comfortable and
not that bad, either and it may be causing me a physical problem.
Maybe not. And, I don't really like saddle shopping because the
finding the  right saddle is a function of how does it compare to
the Avocet. I'd love to hear some thoughts on this and get some other
saddle ideas.

Thanks all.
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