Re: [RBW] Best Nitto handlebars for Shimano 105 shifters?

2014-03-19 Thread Patrick Moore
Isn't the Nitto 185 very close to the Cinelli 64? I used to ride 185s and
"Giro d'Italias" exclusively, and I thought that the latter was another
name for the 64.

(Just googled and it seems that the same bar goes by both names.)

At any rate, both of those I used were 90 mm reach and 140 mm drop: short
indeed, but deeper than, say, the Maes reproductions that Compass sells
(125 mm, IIRC -- and 115 mm reach).

I think that the 185 would do very well if you don't mind your bar ends
tilted down; put them horizontal, as I prefer, and the ramp is pretty much
non-existent. But with ends tilted down, the short ramp would complement
long hoods.

And yes, an old 26.4 Cinelli fits just fine, thank you, in a steel Tioga
"Dog Bone" 25.5 mm stem.


On Wed, Mar 19, 2014 at 1:03 PM, Ron Mc  wrote:

> Cinelli 64 (the original dream bar) is very short reach and shallow drop.
>  But it's perfectly flat across the top.  You might want to look at this
> wider bar geometry chart since it shows many different bars with brifters
> in place, gives reach and drop when available
> http://ruedatropical.com/2009/03/road-drop-bar-geometry/
>
>

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Re: [RBW] Best Nitto handlebars for Shimano 105 shifters?

2014-03-19 Thread Ron Mc
Cinelli 64 (the original dream bar) is very short reach and shallow drop. 
 But it's perfectly flat across the top.  You might want to look at this 
wider bar geometry chart since it shows many different bars with brifters 
in place, gives reach and drop when available 
 http://ruedatropical.com/2009/03/road-drop-bar-geometry/

On Wednesday, March 19, 2014 1:29:45 PM UTC-5, JL wrote:
>
> The combination of shimano sti levers, which have long hoods, and nitto 
> noodle bars is not ideal. The hood length on non sti brake levers is much 
> shorter - my guess would be about 1.5cm shorter.  Nitto noodles already 
> have a long ramp. That, and the location of the curve make the noodle/sti 
> match troublesome.  The shape of shimano's sti levers does not help the 
> matter.  Try nitto bars with a shorter ramp and different curve profile. 
> M176, M185, M186, and M195  The 185 has a more traditional bend than 
> some of the others.
> Noodles have a reach of 96mm, if you move to a bar with a reach of around 
> 80mm it should work better. 
>
> I recently went through this process, hence all the information. I opted 
> to go with ritchey biomax bars. 
>
> Here is a link to someone's blog (not mine) that includes a pretty 
> exhaustive list of Nitto handlebars and their information.  
> http://stuffdavelikes.wordpress.com/a-full-list-of-nitto-bars/
>
> jason
> SF,CA
>

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Re: [RBW] Best Nitto handlebars for Shimano 105 shifters?

2014-03-19 Thread JL
The combination of shimano sti levers, which have long hoods, and nitto noodle 
bars is not ideal. The hood length on non sti brake levers is much shorter - my 
guess would be about 1.5cm shorter.  Nitto noodles already have a long ramp. 
That, and the location of the curve make the noodle/sti match troublesome.  The 
shape of shimano's sti levers does not help the matter.  Try nitto bars with a 
shorter ramp and different curve profile. M176, M185, M186, and M195  The 
185 has a more traditional bend than some of the others.
Noodles have a reach of 96mm, if you move to a bar with a reach of around 80mm 
it should work better. 

I recently went through this process, hence all the information. I opted to go 
with ritchey biomax bars. 

Here is a link to someone's blog (not mine) that includes a pretty exhaustive 
list of Nitto handlebars and their information.  
http://stuffdavelikes.wordpress.com/a-full-list-of-nitto-bars/

jason
SF,CA

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Re: [RBW] Best Nitto handlebars for Shimano 105 shifters?

2014-03-19 Thread Joan Oppel
A friend of mine has the Mark's bar with Shimano shifters (Ultegra) and really likes it.  The difference between the Mark's bar and my Noodle is obvious when the bikes are together.  For the record, I like the long ramps on the Noodle, and sometimes rest my entire forearm there for a different position.  But, as they say - everyone's different.  Anyway, here's the Riv description, picture of comparison to Noodle, etchttp://www.rivbike.com/product-p/hb6.htmJoan   On 03/18/14, Bruce Smitham wrote: Hi group,I currently have 46cm Nitto noodle 177 bars with Shimano 105 shifters on my Sam Hillborne. I like everything except the ramp and hood reach is a little far away to comfortably brake. I'm looking for a different Nitto handlebar and it's a little confusing. I want a shorter ramp so when I move from the flats it moves quickly to the hoods. Does anyone have any knowledge of the dirt drop or rando bars? It would help if you know the model number. Looking for 26.0 X 44cmI appreciate any feedback,Bruce, San Diego-- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com.Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch.For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.



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Re: [RBW] Best Nitto handlebars for Shimano 105 shifters?

2014-03-18 Thread Bertin753
Nitto 185?

Patrick Moore
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> On Mar 18, 2014, at 7:22 PM, Bruce Smitham  wrote:
> 
> Hi group,
> 
> I currently have 46cm Nitto noodle 177 bars with Shimano 105 shifters on my 
> Sam Hillborne. I like everything except the ramp and hood reach is a little 
> far away to comfortably brake. I'm looking for a different Nitto handlebar 
> and it's a little confusing. I want a shorter ramp so when I move from the 
> flats it moves quickly to the hoods. Does anyone have any knowledge of the 
> dirt drop or rando bars? It would help if you know the model number. Looking 
> for 26.0 X 44cm
> 
> I appreciate any feedback,
> 
> Bruce, San Diego
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