Re: [RBW] New Here. I am thinking of selling my Betty Foy, any advice on value?

2019-04-23 Thread Cinza
hmm.. I have to check to see if I have been hoping of by levering off the 
seat as you describe.. probably I do.  But I solved my problem by lowering 
my handlebars which are wide and constricting and leveling my saddle with 
the spanner wrench The saddle was dreadfully saggy and tilted upwards as 
well.  Life is easier now and its a slide off the seat rather digging 
myself out of a sling 

On Saturday, April 20, 2019 at 10:50:34 AM UTC-7, Joe Bernard wrote:
>
> Unfortunately bikes really aren't designed for what you're trying to do. 
> If you can't find a curb at a stop-light/sign to reach your foot out to, 
> then you need to push your right foot down on the pedal and lever off the 
> saddle as you reach your left foot down to the road to stop. 
>
> Now you should have both feet on the ground and standing over the frame. 
> Spin the right pedal forward to step on again, then push on it with your 
> right foot to start pedaling again as you lever back up onto the saddle. 
>

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Re: [RBW] New Here. I am thinking of selling my Betty Foy, any advice on value?

2019-04-23 Thread cinzaw
Thanks for the vote of confidence... All is good. I've written a post on 
the details of my solution which actually are interesting for anyone who 
might be thinking about a similar problem.

On Saturday, April 20, 2019 at 4:14:45 PM UTC-7, Deacon Patrick wrote:
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> Cinzaw, sounds like you have it well in hand and have the experience to 
> suss it out. Let us know how you get on.
>
> With abandon,
> Patrick
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Re: [RBW] New Here. I am thinking of selling my Betty Foy, any advice on value?

2019-04-20 Thread Joe Bernard
Ah, I see. I had an Electra version of old Dutch bikes (Amsterdam, also crazy 
heavy), and it was the only non-recumbent I ever owned that I could reach the 
ground on like in your pic.  

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Re: [RBW] New Here. I am thinking of selling my Betty Foy, any advice on value?

2019-04-20 Thread 'Deacon Patrick' via RBW Owners Bunch
Cinzaw, sounds like you have it well in hand and have the experience to suss it 
out. Let us know how you get on.

With abandon,
Patrick

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Re: [RBW] New Here. I am thinking of selling my Betty Foy, any advice on value?

2019-04-20 Thread Steve Palincsar
You're not going to be able to do that with any standard geometry diamond 
frame bike that fits you properly.  If that's really a requirement you need 
a semi-recumbent like a Rans.  Or, alternatively, you could reconsider the 
idea and learn how to dismount properly at a stop sign, one foot on the 
ground and one still on the pedal.

On Saturday, April 20, 2019 at 1:18:42 PM UTC-4, cinzaw wrote:
>
> Thank you Doug.
>
> Yup, I want my toes  (not whole foot) to touch the ground if I am on the 
> seat with a slight tilt towards the standing foot. (waiting at stop signs 
> and such instead of jumping off the bike) I found snugging the spanner 
> on my Brooks made getting off easier. 
>
>  I love this bike and am going to try and make it work. 
>
> Thanks for the suggestions, glad to know there are choices but I LOVE 
> my Betty for its quality and ride... it's going to be hard to find a 
> replacement if I do not sort this out.
>
>
> :
>>
>> Hey cinzaw.
>>
>> If I'm understanding what you wrote, you want to be able to touch both 
>> feet to the ground while seated on the saddle?  If that is what you're 
>> saying, that is not really related to the bike fitting you or not.  That 
>> saddle height will also be far too low for efficient and safe pedaling, 
>> IMHO.  OTOH, there are bikes designed with a very slack seat tube angle to 
>> allow this and still have adequate reach to the pedals for efficient 
>> pedaling.  Electra was the first I know of to do this, but I'm sure there 
>> are lots like that available now...
>>
>> Regards, Doug
>>
>> On Fri, Apr 19, 2019 at 1:56 PM cinzaw  wrote:
>>
>>> I have a blue Betty Foy I got fall of  2012 in quite  good condition.  
>>> It is a smidge too tall for my toes to hit the ground even with the post 
>>> all the way down.  I may sell it if I can not get a good fit with a 
>>> different saddle.  (currently B67  .. I will try B17s or C19)  
>>>
>>> Any general advice on selling?   Condition very good, paint has nicks 
>>> from locking.  Albatross handles, cork grips, gears on the handles Set 
>>> for upright .
>>>
>>> How much might I hope for?
>>>
>>> ps.. My BF  a wonderful ride.. like a Rolls, but terrifying to jump off 
>>> of in slippery conditions when I don't quite have my feet on the ground.
>>>
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Re: [RBW] New Here. I am thinking of selling my Betty Foy, any advice on value?

2019-04-20 Thread Joe Bernard
Unfortunately bikes really aren't designed for what you're trying to do. If you 
can't find a curb at a stop-light/sign to reach your foot out to, then you need 
to push your right foot down on the pedal and lever off the saddle as you reach 
your left foot down to the road to stop. 

Now you should have both feet on the ground and standing over the frame. Spin 
the right pedal forward to step on again, then push on it with your right foot 
to start pedaling again as you lever back up onto the saddle. 

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Re: [RBW] New Here. I am thinking of selling my Betty Foy, any advice on value?

2019-04-20 Thread cinzaw
Thank you Doug.

Yup, I want my toes  (not whole foot) to touch the ground if I am on the 
seat with a slight tilt towards the standing foot. (waiting at stop signs 
and such instead of jumping off the bike) I found snugging the spanner 
on my Brooks made getting off easier. 

 I love this bike and am going to try and make it work. 

Thanks for the suggestions, glad to know there are choices but I LOVE 
my Betty for its quality and ride... it's going to be hard to find a 
replacement if I do not sort this out.


:
>
> Hey cinzaw.
>
> If I'm understanding what you wrote, you want to be able to touch both 
> feet to the ground while seated on the saddle?  If that is what you're 
> saying, that is not really related to the bike fitting you or not.  That 
> saddle height will also be far too low for efficient and safe pedaling, 
> IMHO.  OTOH, there are bikes designed with a very slack seat tube angle to 
> allow this and still have adequate reach to the pedals for efficient 
> pedaling.  Electra was the first I know of to do this, but I'm sure there 
> are lots like that available now...
>
> Regards, Doug
>
> On Fri, Apr 19, 2019 at 1:56 PM cinzaw > 
> wrote:
>
>> I have a blue Betty Foy I got fall of  2012 in quite  good condition.  It 
>> is a smidge too tall for my toes to hit the ground even with the post all 
>> the way down.  I may sell it if I can not get a good fit with a different 
>> saddle.  (currently B67  .. I will try B17s or C19)  
>>
>> Any general advice on selling?   Condition very good, paint has nicks 
>> from locking.  Albatross handles, cork grips, gears on the handles Set 
>> for upright .
>>
>> How much might I hope for?
>>
>> ps.. My BF  a wonderful ride.. like a Rolls, but terrifying to jump off 
>> of in slippery conditions when I don't quite have my feet on the ground.
>>
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Re: [RBW] New Here. I am thinking of selling my Betty Foy, any advice on value?

2019-04-20 Thread Doug Van Cleve
Hey cinzaw.

If I'm understanding what you wrote, you want to be able to touch both feet
to the ground while seated on the saddle?  If that is what you're saying,
that is not really related to the bike fitting you or not.  That saddle
height will also be far too low for efficient and safe pedaling, IMHO.
OTOH, there are bikes designed with a very slack seat tube angle to allow
this and still have adequate reach to the pedals for efficient pedaling.
Electra was the first I know of to do this, but I'm sure there are lots
like that available now...

Regards, Doug

On Fri, Apr 19, 2019 at 1:56 PM cinzaw  wrote:

> I have a blue Betty Foy I got fall of  2012 in quite  good condition.  It
> is a smidge too tall for my toes to hit the ground even with the post all
> the way down.  I may sell it if I can not get a good fit with a different
> saddle.  (currently B67  .. I will try B17s or C19)
>
> Any general advice on selling?   Condition very good, paint has nicks from
> locking.  Albatross handles, cork grips, gears on the handles Set for
> upright .
>
> How much might I hope for?
>
> ps.. My BF  a wonderful ride.. like a Rolls, but terrifying to jump off of
> in slippery conditions when I don't quite have my feet on the ground.
>
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