Re: [RBW] Re: Clem for my husband

2015-12-15 Thread LeahFoy
Hi, All, I just wanted to post a quick update on my husband's new Clem. You 
will remember that he was enamored with Specialized and its garish modern style 
and garish modern colors. You will be amused to know that he has been studying 
MY bike and wondering how to make his more like it. You know, so we can 
"match." Anyway, this is a man who never spends money on himself. Therefore, 
you might imagine my shock when he wanted new cork grips ("like yours, Leah"), 
wanted those grips shellacked ("to match our saddles, Leah") and a new Brooks 
saddle ("They make them with SPRINGS?!?"). I took some extra liberties, 
however, and not only did he get his new cork grips (which I then shellacked, 
along with mine to "match") and his Brooks (in honey to "match", mind you), but 
I got him a silver bell (complements but doesn't "match" my brass bell), a 
bottle cage, a cygolight which has yet to arrive, and I wrapped an Irish strap 
around his bars. I don't know why I did that last thing. Now our bars do not 
"match." He has neither inquired nor complained about the cost of Riv-ing up 
his Clem, which is quite possibly a first.

I cringe to say it, but the magic of this bike is, for now, unnoticed by my 
husband. He has no notion of how special it is, and the attributes of his Clem 
that he's assigned value to are not typical, or even sensical. When I ask him 
about his favorite attributes of his bike, he offers this as the pinnacle of 
the bike's good points: it matches mine. I have to stifle laughter because he's 
ridiculous. Incorrigible and ridiculous and darling! His favorite, and I do 
mean all-time, incomparable, cherished, revered, favorite thing, is that it 
looks like our bikes are a matched pair. How silly it would be for me to be on 
my Riv and he on a Specialized! What a relief not to have made THAT mistake. 
Because, priorities! Also, if we can be seen riding our bikes in tandem, all 
the better, so that the neighborhood knows WE MATCH. Is it foolish to suppose 
that over time he will realize the true splendor of lugged steel magic bikes 
created by the elves at Rivendell? For this we hope!

His ride impressions are that the bike feels sturdy and sounds quiet. He is 
weirded out by friction shifting. You know how sometimes you'll think you're in 
gear and then when you apply more pressure to the pedals sometimes the gears 
will grind or slip? He HATES that.  "It was NOT out of gear! I was going along 
perfectly fine, didn't touch a thing and then IT DID THIS!" Completely 
confounded by friction shifting, can't see why this would ever be superior to 
his old Pile 'O Junk and its twisty numbered grip shifting mechanism. Somehow 
his chain popped off the rear cog and gouged the paint on his frame. That was a 
low point for sure. He definitely needs his saddle raised a few inches but 
staunchly opposes that idea ("I like it like this."). Not easily deterred, I 
raised it at least a couple of inches when I installed his Brooks. We'll see if 
he notices. He calls his bike his "gentleman's bike." He says it looks like a 
British gentleman just waiting to go for a ride. The only British thing on the 
bike is the saddle, and the rest of it is a conglomeration of parts from all 
over the world, but it's British if you ask HIM. His next idea is to figure out 
the bag situation. He doesn't want a Saddlesack because he doesn't want to lose 
his Pletscher rack. So he thinks about rear Back-a-Bike bags, but he isn't sure 
yet. 

Now, I have a couple of questions, and they are silly because I don't know 
anything about bikes, so bear with me. Look at the angle of his Brooks. He 
hasn't complained (because he's been away on business and hasn't ridden it 
yet), but it looks like I may want to nose it down a bit, and I better know how 
to do it before he asks. Mine adjusts effortlessly. Why can't I seem to do it 
with his? Also, when I ride his bike, I feel scrunched. He's 6 feet and I'm 
only 5' 6" but I feel like I want to stretch out more. When I sit on my bike it 
might as well be a favorite chair, it's so comfortable. Could this be because 
the Clem bars rise and reach back? Mine are Albatross, how different can they 
be? Can bars really made THAT much difference? 

Anyway, there's a link here, and if you would be so kind to examine the bike 
and give your opinion, I'd be grateful!

https://www.flickr.com/photos/daytondogg/albums/72157661891945032

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Re: [RBW] Re: Clem for my husband

2015-12-15 Thread Kathy

Just want to say - he is one lucky man.


On 12/15/2015 11:33 AM, LeahFoy wrote:

Hi, All, I just wanted to post a quick update on my husband's new Clem. You will remember that he was enamored with Specialized and its garish modern style and 
garish modern colors. You will be amused to know that he has been studying MY bike and wondering how to make his more like it. You know, so we can 
"match." Anyway, this is a man who never spends money on himself. Therefore, you might imagine my shock when he wanted new cork grips ("like 
yours, Leah"), wanted those grips shellacked ("to match our saddles, Leah") and a new Brooks saddle ("They make them with 
SPRINGS?!?"). I took some extra liberties, however, and not only did he get his new cork grips (which I then shellacked, along with mine to 
"match") and his Brooks (in honey to "match", mind you), but I got him a silver bell (complements but doesn't "match" my brass 
bell), a bottle cage, a cygolight which has yet to arrive, and I wrapped an Irish strap around his bars. I don't know why I did that last thing. Now our bars 
do not "match." He has neither inquired nor complained about the cost of Riv-ing up his Clem, which is quite possibly a first.

I cringe to say it, but the magic of this bike is, for now, unnoticed by my 
husband. He has no notion of how special it is, and the attributes of his Clem 
that he's assigned value to are not typical, or even sensical. When I ask him 
about his favorite attributes of his bike, he offers this as the pinnacle of 
the bike's good points: it matches mine. I have to stifle laughter because he's 
ridiculous. Incorrigible and ridiculous and darling! His favorite, and I do 
mean all-time, incomparable, cherished, revered, favorite thing, is that it 
looks like our bikes are a matched pair. How silly it would be for me to be on 
my Riv and he on a Specialized! What a relief not to have made THAT mistake. 
Because, priorities! Also, if we can be seen riding our bikes in tandem, all 
the better, so that the neighborhood knows WE MATCH. Is it foolish to suppose 
that over time he will realize the true splendor of lugged steel magic bikes 
created by the elves at Rivendell? For this we hope!

His ride impressions are that the bike feels sturdy and sounds quiet. He is weirded out by friction shifting. 
You know how sometimes you'll think you're in gear and then when you apply more pressure to the pedals 
sometimes the gears will grind or slip? He HATES that.  "It was NOT out of gear! I was going along 
perfectly fine, didn't touch a thing and then IT DID THIS!" Completely confounded by friction shifting, 
can't see why this would ever be superior to his old Pile 'O Junk and its twisty numbered grip shifting 
mechanism. Somehow his chain popped off the rear cog and gouged the paint on his frame. That was a low point 
for sure. He definitely needs his saddle raised a few inches but staunchly opposes that idea ("I like it 
like this."). Not easily deterred, I raised it at least a couple of inches when I installed his Brooks. 
We'll see if he notices. He calls his bike his "gentleman's bike." He says it looks like a British 
gentleman just waiting to go for a ride. The only British thing on the bike is the saddle, and the rest of it 
is a conglomeration of parts from all over the world, but it's British if you ask HIM. His next idea is to 
figure out the bag situation. He doesn't want a Saddlesack because he doesn't want to lose his Pletscher 
rack. So he thinks about rear Back-a-Bike bags, but he isn't sure yet.

Now, I have a couple of questions, and they are silly because I don't know anything 
about bikes, so bear with me. Look at the angle of his Brooks. He hasn't complained 
(because he's been away on business and hasn't ridden it yet), but it looks like I 
may want to nose it down a bit, and I better know how to do it before he asks. Mine 
adjusts effortlessly. Why can't I seem to do it with his? Also, when I ride his 
bike, I feel scrunched. He's 6 feet and I'm only 5' 6" but I feel like I want 
to stretch out more. When I sit on my bike it might as well be a favorite chair, 
it's so comfortable. Could this be because the Clem bars rise and reach back? Mine 
are Albatross, how different can they be? Can bars really made THAT much difference?

Anyway, there's a link here, and if you would be so kind to examine the bike 
and give your opinion, I'd be grateful!

https://www.flickr.com/photos/daytondogg/albums/72157661891945032




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Re: [RBW] Re: Clem for my husband

2015-12-15 Thread islaysteve
Leah, First of all, I'll agree with KC that you husband is one lucky man!  The 
saddle tilt doesn't look bad to me, that's about the same as I have on my bike. 
 Lots of guys like them tilted quite a bit.  Of course it's all personal, so 
just help him get it adjusted to his liking.  As far as shifting goes, I'll be 
counter-Rivish and suggest that if he prefers indexed shifting, there's no 
reason why he shouldn't have it (other than money, if course).  You'll need a 
set of indexing shifters to match the number of gears you have front and rear, 
and appropriate mounting for them.  If he decides to go that route, work with a 
good bike shop or come here for advice.  Cheers,
Steve

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Re: [RBW] Re: Clem for my husband

2015-12-15 Thread Zed Martinez
Leah, if it's the stock seat post from the Clem (the Kalloy), adjusting the 
saddle tilt just requires loosening the bolt a bit more than you'd expect 
to. It'll loosen for sliding on the rails before it'll loosen enough to let 
the angle adjustments click over each other. The trick is not losing the 
fore/aft adjustment as you do so. Some tape to mark the rails and stop them 
at the clamp helps.

The handlebars, yeah, I think it can matter a lot. A difference of 1/4" in 
any direction is something I can feel, and once you start talking even just 
a whole inch the entire feeling can be different. It looks like the Clem's 
bars are way up there, in the pictures, which will shorten the reach fast 
on that bike. I ride an albastache on mine that doesn't sweep back even 
half as much and I still need mine several inches lower than that not to 
feel cramped. Lowering the bars until the feeling opens up would be the 
first thing I'd try. You'd be surprised how much it'll affect the fit.

On Tuesday, December 15, 2015 at 2:33:07 PM UTC-5, LeahFoy wrote:
>
> Hi, All, I just wanted to post a quick update on my husband's new Clem. 
> You will remember that he was enamored with Specialized and its garish 
> modern style and garish modern colors. You will be amused to know that he 
> has been studying MY bike and wondering how to make his more like it. You 
> know, so we can "match." Anyway, this is a man who never spends money on 
> himself. Therefore, you might imagine my shock when he wanted new cork 
> grips ("like yours, Leah"), wanted those grips shellacked ("to match our 
> saddles, Leah") and a new Brooks saddle ("They make them with SPRINGS?!?"). 
> I took some extra liberties, however, and not only did he get his new cork 
> grips (which I then shellacked, along with mine to "match") and his Brooks 
> (in honey to "match", mind you), but I got him a silver bell (complements 
> but doesn't "match" my brass bell), a bottle cage, a cygolight which has 
> yet to arrive, and I wrapped an Irish strap around his bars. I don't know 
> why I did that last thing. Now our bars do not "match." He has neither 
> inquired nor complained about the cost of Riv-ing up his Clem, which is 
> quite possibly a first. 
>
> I cringe to say it, but the magic of this bike is, for now, unnoticed by 
> my husband. He has no notion of how special it is, and the attributes of 
> his Clem that he's assigned value to are not typical, or even sensical. 
> When I ask him about his favorite attributes of his bike, he offers this as 
> the pinnacle of the bike's good points: it matches mine. I have to stifle 
> laughter because he's ridiculous. Incorrigible and ridiculous and darling! 
> His favorite, and I do mean all-time, incomparable, cherished, revered, 
> favorite thing, is that it looks like our bikes are a matched pair. How 
> silly it would be for me to be on my Riv and he on a Specialized! What a 
> relief not to have made THAT mistake. Because, priorities! Also, if we can 
> be seen riding our bikes in tandem, all the better, so that the 
> neighborhood knows WE MATCH. Is it foolish to suppose that over time he 
> will realize the true splendor of lugged steel magic bikes created by the 
> elves at Rivendell? For this we hope! 
>
> His ride impressions are that the bike feels sturdy and sounds quiet. He 
> is weirded out by friction shifting. You know how sometimes you'll think 
> you're in gear and then when you apply more pressure to the pedals 
> sometimes the gears will grind or slip? He HATES that.  "It was NOT out of 
> gear! I was going along perfectly fine, didn't touch a thing and then IT 
> DID THIS!" Completely confounded by friction shifting, can't see why this 
> would ever be superior to his old Pile 'O Junk and its twisty numbered grip 
> shifting mechanism. Somehow his chain popped off the rear cog and gouged 
> the paint on his frame. That was a low point for sure. He definitely needs 
> his saddle raised a few inches but staunchly opposes that idea ("I like it 
> like this."). Not easily deterred, I raised it at least a couple of inches 
> when I installed his Brooks. We'll see if he notices. He calls his bike his 
> "gentleman's bike." He says it looks like a British gentleman just waiting 
> to go for a ride. The only British thing on the bike is the saddle, and the 
> rest of it is a conglomeration of parts from all over the world, but it's 
> British if you ask HIM. His next idea is to figure out the bag situation. 
> He doesn't want a Saddlesack because he doesn't want to lose his Pletscher 
> rack. So he thinks about rear Back-a-Bike bags, but he isn't sure yet. 
>
> Now, I have a couple of questions, and they are silly because I don't know 
> anything about bikes, so bear with me. Look at the angle of his Brooks. He 
> hasn't complained (because he's been away on business and hasn't ridden it 
> yet), but it looks like I may want to nose it down a bit, and I better know 
> how to do it before he asks. Mine 

Re: [RBW] Re: Clem for my husband

2015-12-15 Thread Deacon Patrick
Well, Leah, you knew this was not going to be a typical saga, right? Grin. 
Always a delight to read how your adventure into Rivendellianifying your 
hubbie, or at the least his steed, is progressing. Grin.

It looks like you have a wee bit of rail to slide the saddle back if need 
be. Saddle tilt is the same bolt, (the one under the seat on the seat 
post). Just loosen and tilt, hold in place, tighten, but it's one bolt for 
tilt and slide, so watch that one doesn't unintentionally shift when 
adjusting the other.

The whimsical Irish strap is brilliant!

With abandon,
Patrick

On Tuesday, December 15, 2015 at 12:33:07 PM UTC-7, LeahFoy wrote:
>
> Hi, All, I just wanted to post a quick update on my husband's new Clem. 

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Re: [RBW] Re: Clem for my husband

2015-12-15 Thread dougP
Leah:

First of all I've enjoyed following this story.  It sounds like you're 
having a lot of fun with the project and he's certainly being treated 
right.  

While the "magic goes unnoticed" for now, my guess is it'll grow on him.  
He's probably never had anyone comment on his POJ (the acronym suggested by 
Pile O'Junk) but NOW there will be the occasional comment, esp. if you are 
on your "matching bikes".  Even non-bikey people often detect quality and 
beautiful design.  Full disclosure:  my wife & I both have Atlantis' so we 
really hear a lot of "matching bikes" comments.  

As to the angle, from the photo it looks like the seatpost has a single 
large bolt on the underside of the clamp.  If you took this loose to 
install the Brooks, then loosening it up a bit should allow you to adjust 
the angle.  BTW, it would be a surprise if you raised the seat 2" and he 
didn't notice.  Once an optimal height is worked out (takes time), 
adjustments in the 1/8" to 1/4" range are usually noticeable.  Of course, 
if he was horribly low before this may improve things quite a bit.  

Shifting:  I'm going to go against conventional wisdom in this group & 
offer that if he likes gripshifters you might consider them.  While they 
are looked down upon by many, they are intuitive and once someone has used 
them and likes them, why mess with success?  All the shifter is doing is 
pulling a cable so there's no "right way".  

Luggage:  You say he doesn't want to lose his Pletscher rack.  Doesn't the 
rack make a good saddlebag support?  So wouldn't it stay?  Or maybe he 
still wants to be able to strap something to the rack, in addition to 
having a saddlebag?  Then a smaller bag?  Saddlesacks come in various sizes 
and there are other vendors with equally good looking & performing bags 
(Acorn, Carradice, etc.).  If just needs minor luggage capacity & wants the 
rack free for big things (basketball?), lots of nice front bags are 
available.  Riv's bar tube is super handy for keys, phone, wallet, small 
stuff.  Moving up, Acorn has a nice bag with a couple of rear pockets for 
organizing, and it's big enough to carry food, windshell, camera, etc.

Handlebars are HUGELY different.  So yes, your experience jumping between 
the two bikes is valid.  If you look around Riv's site, there may be an 
overlay of their various handlebars that shows how the width & shape 
compare.  And they only have a small selection.  Personal taste in height, 
reach, hand angle, etc., determines what's comfortable.  

Lastly, there are NO "silly questions".  No one is born knowing this 
stuff.  Much of the knowledge on this list is the result of decades of 
experience.  And we have vast collections of saddles, handlebars, stems, 
bags, tires, etc., etc., to prove it.

dougP

On Tuesday, December 15, 2015 at 11:33:07 AM UTC-8, LeahFoy wrote:
>
> Hi, All, I just wanted to post a quick update on my husband's new Clem. 
> You will remember that he was enamored with Specialized and its garish 
> modern style and garish modern colors. You will be amused to know that he 
> has been studying MY bike and wondering how to make his more like it. You 
> know, so we can "match." Anyway, this is a man who never spends money on 
> himself. Therefore, you might imagine my shock when he wanted new cork 
> grips ("like yours, Leah"), wanted those grips shellacked ("to match our 
> saddles, Leah") and a new Brooks saddle ("They make them with SPRINGS?!?"). 
> I took some extra liberties, however, and not only did he get his new cork 
> grips (which I then shellacked, along with mine to "match") and his Brooks 
> (in honey to "match", mind you), but I got him a silver bell (complements 
> but doesn't "match" my brass bell), a bottle cage, a cygolight which has 
> yet to arrive, and I wrapped an Irish strap around his bars. I don't know 
> why I did that last thing. Now our bars do not "match." He has neither 
> inquired nor complained about the cost of Riv-ing up his Clem, which is 
> quite possibly a first. 
>
> I cringe to say it, but the magic of this bike is, for now, unnoticed by 
> my husband. He has no notion of how special it is, and the attributes of 
> his Clem that he's assigned value to are not typical, or even sensical. 
> When I ask him about his favorite attributes of his bike, he offers this as 
> the pinnacle of the bike's good points: it matches mine. I have to stifle 
> laughter because he's ridiculous. Incorrigible and ridiculous and darling! 
> His favorite, and I do mean all-time, incomparable, cherished, revered, 
> favorite thing, is that it looks like our bikes are a matched pair. How 
> silly it would be for me to be on my Riv and he on a Specialized! What a 
> relief not to have made THAT mistake. Because, priorities! Also, if we can 
> be seen riding our bikes in tandem, all the better, so that the 
> neighborhood knows WE MATCH. Is it foolish to suppose that over time he 
> will realize the true splendor of lugged steel magic bikes 

Re: [RBW] Re: Clem for my husband

2015-12-15 Thread Jon Dukeman in the foothills of Colorado

Leah,
No rules against matchy- match. Fun is the key goal!

HIs saddle looks like it maybe a bit too much nose up.You can use the 
panels ( garage door???) in the back ground of the picture as a level bench 
mark and adjust the saddle slightly nose up to start and let him try 
it.Then I would ask your husband a few questions.
Does he feel like he is sliding forward or putting too much weigh on his 
hands??
Does he think about the saddle more than anything while riding? An 
indication that possibly he hasn't logged enough miles or ridden  enough 
rides to get his rear accustomed to any saddle. Or is it  irritating his 
pubic bone and adjustment needs to be made. You can use a sharpie to mark 
the seat rails and seat post and make small adjustments at a time to the 
nose of the saddle nose up or down. Alcohol will remove the marks when 
done. Finding the perfect saddle position my take some time. And you have 
you enter into the equation that it's a new saddle. Some seat posts don't 
adjust smoothly and can be difficult to make minute adjustments..be patient.
You probably know this...Concerning correct saddle height when his leg is 
at the bottom of the pedal stroke while riding ( pedal at the 6 o'clock 
position) there should be a slight bend in his knee. Not locked straight. 
When you find the correct saddle height measure from the top center of the 
saddle down to the top of the pedal axel and write it down.Then if you swap 
out a different saddle or pedals it's easy to adjust them to the correct 
height.
Try to have a weight balance between hands, seat and feet.  Being 
comfortable is key to enjoying his bike.
Another thing you could do to go to your local bike shop and have them look 
at his position on the bike.
Have fun with your bikes,
Jon


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Re: [RBW] Re: Clem for my husband

2015-12-06 Thread WETH
Awesome story and photographs!  Wishing you many happy years of family cycling!
Erl

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Re: [RBW] Re: Clem for my husband

2015-12-06 Thread Deacon Patrick
Ha! Things changed. We originally ordered five, but cut back to two and a 
Bike Friday Haul-a-Day for my wife. Here's a few pics:

New Clementines:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/32311885@N07/22712606132/in/dateposted-public/

Bike Friday Haul-a-Day:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/32311885@N07/21239277000/in/dateposted-public/

With abandon,
Patrick 

On Sunday, December 6, 2015 at 3:50:40 PM UTC-7, LeahFoy wrote:
>
> Deacon, I have been waiting to see your fleet of new bikes. I do so hope 
> you'll get the racks affixed soon and grace us with photos of the lineup. 
> Didn't you order 5? I'd love to see how you made each one individual for 
> each lass. 
>
> Jon, who knows what we'll get into? We almost have to load the bikes and 
> take them to ride elsewhere as we are waaa out in suburbia and on top 
> of a mountain. Trips to parks, some out-of-town stuff, to church, that kind 
> of thing. We've never bike-camped; could this be the year?!
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Clem for my husband

2015-12-06 Thread Jon Dukeman in the foothills of Colorado
Leah,
I'm in the same boat.I live in the foothills and usually drive 20-30 miles 
to ride with friends or to ride good trails.
You two have fun with your bikes.I've enjoyed your posts. Fun,Fun,Fun.
Jon
 

Jon, who knows what we'll get into? We almost have to load the bikes and 
> take them to ride elsewhere as we are waaa out in suburbia and on top 
> of a mountain. Trips to parks, some out-of-town stuff, to church, that kind 
> of thing. We've never bike-camped; could this be the year?!
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Clem for my husband

2015-12-06 Thread Jon Dukeman in the foothills of Colorado
Congrats on getting the Clem!
What fun memories you will make on those two bikes.
Coffee out??? Picnics ?
Enjoyed the pics.Thanks for sharing!
Have fun!
Jon


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Re: [RBW] Re: Clem for my husband

2015-12-06 Thread LeahFoy
Deacon, I have been waiting to see your fleet of new bikes. I do so hope you'll 
get the racks affixed soon and grace us with photos of the lineup. Didn't you 
order 5? I'd love to see how you made each one individual for each lass. 

Jon, who knows what we'll get into? We almost have to load the bikes and take 
them to ride elsewhere as we are waaa out in suburbia and on top of a 
mountain. Trips to parks, some out-of-town stuff, to church, that kind of 
thing. We've never bike-camped; could this be the year?!

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Re: [RBW] Re: Clem for my husband

2015-12-05 Thread cyclotourist
Great couple of bikes. Bummer about the chainguard. Seems like it
should be able to bend back into place to at least let you ride until
the new one comes in.

Kid you not: I watched FedEx driver "roll" a bike box end-over-end
into a truck. They don't care at all about the boxes or contents
thereof.

On Sat, Dec 5, 2015 at 7:59 PM, Deacon Patrick  wrote:
> Yes, great pictures. Love the kissing photo! Our kids have our family of
> bikes as their own family, with my wife's as the mama, mine as the Papa (and
> my Quickbeam as the uncle) and theirs as the kids. REI may be right on the
> rack. The eyelets are upsized on the frame and we needed a hardware run to
> get the right bolts, which is why my lassies still don't have their racks
> on. Fortunately we have lots of snow, so they are having snowball fights
> rather than begging to do grocery runs with me. Sardonic grin.
>
> With abandon,
> Patrick
>
> On Saturday, December 5, 2015 at 7:27:17 PM UTC-7, LeahFoy wrote:
>>
>> Ps Did you guys see the link at the end of the email? There's a big space
>> and I didn't mention it. Just in case.
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Dec 5, 2015, at 6:22 PM, dougP  wrote:
>>
>> FedEx & UPS have amazing powers.  At least the damage is minor & easily
>> repaired.  A friend rec'd his bike from one of them and the cardboard box
>> had 2 perfectly punched holes where someone had used a forklift to move the
>> box.  Amazingly, the forks missed everything inside.  Another time I was
>> assembling my Atlantis at the start of a tour when I discovered the front
>> wheel wouldn't drop in, and the fork legs bent out of alignment.  A bit of
>> judicious tweaking got things straightened out. But the bike had been
>> shipped in one of those 30# heavy duty plastic bike boxes!
>>
>> dougP
>>
>> On Saturday, December 5, 2015 at 5:35:01 PM UTC-8, LeahFoy wrote:
>>>
>>> J.P.'s Clem finally arrived at 7pm last night. We took it immediately to
>>> REI to have it assembled. Sadly, the box was damaged somewhere between
>>> Oregon and Nevada (thanks, FedEx), and when the mechanics assembled the
>>> bike, they noticed the chain guard was mangled. It was scratched up, bent
>>> inwards and hit the gears. Rivelo was gracious (as you know) and a
>>> replacement part is on the way. But geez, how hard did FedEx hit that box to
>>> do that kind of damage? The rest of the bike was largely intact. Maybe a
>>> paint ding or two, but Grant's philosophy came to mind - something about
>>> allowing a scratch, especially if the bike is really expensive - and we
>>> decided no big deal. The mechanics believed the wrong hardware was sent for
>>> the rack, which makes me nervous because I can't imagine the wrong parts
>>> were sent, and maybe the mechanics just don't understand. I wonder if they
>>> put the rack on correctly. I'm going to pretend they did for peace of mind.
>>> Also, anyone know the weight limit for the Clem Pletscher rack?
>>>
>>> We came home and we did a short ride without kids. It was so fun. I kept
>>> looking and looking at the bike and admiring the color. I don't think
>>> anyone's photos have showcased the true color of this bike. The blue is
>>> actually a creamy blue/teal that just looks suave and wild and rugged and
>>> gorgeous. My Betty looked washed out in comparison. How can this be?!? We
>>> don't have the cork grips or the Brooks yet, but we will, because my husband
>>> has a weird tendency to want to "match" with me. And I'm inclined to let
>>> him. Ha!
>>>
>>> Thanks to everyone who helped me make the decision, and thanks to John at
>>> Rivelo for making this happen! We'll ride more tomorrow!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> https://www.flickr.com/photos/daytondogg/albums/72157661891945032/with/22922164683/
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Re: [RBW] Re: Clem for my husband

2015-12-05 Thread Deacon Patrick
Delivery trucks are the slowest when they have to carry bikes! Always good 
to get the first dings out of the way. Grin. May you have many years 
matching and riding together!

With abandon,
Patrick

On Saturday, December 5, 2015 at 6:35:01 PM UTC-7, LeahFoy wrote:
>
> J.P.'s Clem finally arrived at 7pm last night. We took it immediately to 
> REI to have it assembled. Sadly, the box was damaged somewhere between 
> Oregon and Nevada (thanks, FedEx), and when the mechanics assembled the 
> bike, they noticed the chain guard was mangled. It was scratched up, bent 
> inwards and hit the gears. Rivelo was gracious (as you know) and a 
> replacement part is on the way. But geez, how hard did FedEx hit that box 
> to do that kind of damage? The rest of the bike was largely intact. Maybe a 
> paint ding or two, but Grant's philosophy came to mind - something about 
> allowing a scratch, especially if the bike is really expensive - and we 
> decided no big deal. The mechanics believed the wrong hardware was sent for 
> the rack, which makes me nervous because I can't imagine the wrong parts 
> were sent, and maybe the mechanics just don't understand. I wonder if they 
> put the rack on correctly. I'm going to pretend they did for peace of mind. 
> Also, anyone know the weight limit for the Clem Pletscher rack? 
>
> We came home and we did a short ride without kids. It was so fun. I kept 
> looking and looking at the bike and admiring the color. I don't think 
> anyone's photos have showcased the true color of this bike. The blue is 
> actually a creamy blue/teal that just looks suave and wild and rugged and 
> gorgeous. My Betty looked washed out in comparison. How can this be?!? We 
> don't have the cork grips or the Brooks yet, but we will, because my 
> husband has a weird tendency to want to "match" with me. And I'm inclined 
> to let him. Ha! 
>
> Thanks to everyone who helped me make the decision, and thanks to John at 
> Rivelo for making this happen! We'll ride more tomorrow! 
>
>
>
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/daytondogg/albums/72157661891945032/with/22922164683/

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Re: [RBW] Re: Clem for my husband

2015-12-05 Thread LeahFoy
J.P.'s Clem finally arrived at 7pm last night. We took it immediately to REI to 
have it assembled. Sadly, the box was damaged somewhere between Oregon and 
Nevada (thanks, FedEx), and when the mechanics assembled the bike, they noticed 
the chain guard was mangled. It was scratched up, bent inwards and hit the 
gears. Rivelo was gracious (as you know) and a replacement part is on the way. 
But geez, how hard did FedEx hit that box to do that kind of damage? The rest 
of the bike was largely intact. Maybe a paint ding or two, but Grant's 
philosophy came to mind - something about allowing a scratch, especially if the 
bike is really expensive - and we decided no big deal. The mechanics believed 
the wrong hardware was sent for the rack, which makes me nervous because I 
can't imagine the wrong parts were sent, and maybe the mechanics just don't 
understand. I wonder if they put the rack on correctly. I'm going to pretend 
they did for peace of mind. Also, anyone know the weight limit for the Clem 
Pletscher rack? 

We came home and we did a short ride without kids. It was so fun. I kept 
looking and looking at the bike and admiring the color. I don't think anyone's 
photos have showcased the true color of this bike. The blue is actually a 
creamy blue/teal that just looks suave and wild and rugged and gorgeous. My 
Betty looked washed out in comparison. How can this be?!? We don't have the 
cork grips or the Brooks yet, but we will, because my husband has a weird 
tendency to want to "match" with me. And I'm inclined to let him. Ha!

Thanks to everyone who helped me make the decision, and thanks to John at 
Rivelo for making this happen! We'll ride more tomorrow!


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Re: [RBW] Re: Clem for my husband

2015-12-05 Thread Kathy Carroll
Happy for you both.  I know that feeling.
On Dec 5, 2015 8:56 PM, "Deacon Patrick"  wrote:

> Delivery trucks are the slowest when they have to carry bikes! Always good
> to get the first dings out of the way. Grin. May you have many years
> matching and riding together!
>
> With abandon,
> Patrick
>
> On Saturday, December 5, 2015 at 6:35:01 PM UTC-7, LeahFoy wrote:
>>
>> J.P.'s Clem finally arrived at 7pm last night. We took it immediately to
>> REI to have it assembled. Sadly, the box was damaged somewhere between
>> Oregon and Nevada (thanks, FedEx), and when the mechanics assembled the
>> bike, they noticed the chain guard was mangled. It was scratched up, bent
>> inwards and hit the gears. Rivelo was gracious (as you know) and a
>> replacement part is on the way. But geez, how hard did FedEx hit that box
>> to do that kind of damage? The rest of the bike was largely intact. Maybe a
>> paint ding or two, but Grant's philosophy came to mind - something about
>> allowing a scratch, especially if the bike is really expensive - and we
>> decided no big deal. The mechanics believed the wrong hardware was sent for
>> the rack, which makes me nervous because I can't imagine the wrong parts
>> were sent, and maybe the mechanics just don't understand. I wonder if they
>> put the rack on correctly. I'm going to pretend they did for peace of mind.
>> Also, anyone know the weight limit for the Clem Pletscher rack?
>>
>> We came home and we did a short ride without kids. It was so fun. I kept
>> looking and looking at the bike and admiring the color. I don't think
>> anyone's photos have showcased the true color of this bike. The blue is
>> actually a creamy blue/teal that just looks suave and wild and rugged and
>> gorgeous. My Betty looked washed out in comparison. How can this be?!? We
>> don't have the cork grips or the Brooks yet, but we will, because my
>> husband has a weird tendency to want to "match" with me. And I'm inclined
>> to let him. Ha!
>>
>> Thanks to everyone who helped me make the decision, and thanks to John at
>> Rivelo for making this happen! We'll ride more tomorrow!
>>
>>
>>
>> https://www.flickr.com/photos/daytondogg/albums/72157661891945032/with/22922164683/
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Re: [RBW] Re: Clem for my husband

2015-12-05 Thread dougP
FedEx & UPS have amazing powers.  At least the damage is minor & easily 
repaired.  A friend rec'd his bike from one of them and the cardboard box 
had 2 perfectly punched holes where someone had used a forklift to move the 
box.  Amazingly, the forks missed everything inside.  Another time I was 
assembling my Atlantis at the start of a tour when I discovered the front 
wheel wouldn't drop in, and the fork legs bent out of alignment.  A bit of 
judicious tweaking got things straightened out. But the bike had been 
shipped in one of those 30# heavy duty plastic bike boxes!  

dougP

On Saturday, December 5, 2015 at 5:35:01 PM UTC-8, LeahFoy wrote:
>
> J.P.'s Clem finally arrived at 7pm last night. We took it immediately to 
> REI to have it assembled. Sadly, the box was damaged somewhere between 
> Oregon and Nevada (thanks, FedEx), and when the mechanics assembled the 
> bike, they noticed the chain guard was mangled. It was scratched up, bent 
> inwards and hit the gears. Rivelo was gracious (as you know) and a 
> replacement part is on the way. But geez, how hard did FedEx hit that box 
> to do that kind of damage? The rest of the bike was largely intact. Maybe a 
> paint ding or two, but Grant's philosophy came to mind - something about 
> allowing a scratch, especially if the bike is really expensive - and we 
> decided no big deal. The mechanics believed the wrong hardware was sent for 
> the rack, which makes me nervous because I can't imagine the wrong parts 
> were sent, and maybe the mechanics just don't understand. I wonder if they 
> put the rack on correctly. I'm going to pretend they did for peace of mind. 
> Also, anyone know the weight limit for the Clem Pletscher rack? 
>
> We came home and we did a short ride without kids. It was so fun. I kept 
> looking and looking at the bike and admiring the color. I don't think 
> anyone's photos have showcased the true color of this bike. The blue is 
> actually a creamy blue/teal that just looks suave and wild and rugged and 
> gorgeous. My Betty looked washed out in comparison. How can this be?!? We 
> don't have the cork grips or the Brooks yet, but we will, because my 
> husband has a weird tendency to want to "match" with me. And I'm inclined 
> to let him. Ha! 
>
> Thanks to everyone who helped me make the decision, and thanks to John at 
> Rivelo for making this happen! We'll ride more tomorrow! 
>
>
>
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/daytondogg/albums/72157661891945032/with/22922164683/

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Re: [RBW] Re: Clem for my husband

2015-12-05 Thread Leah Peterson
Ps Did you guys see the link at the end of the email? There's a big space and I 
didn't mention it. Just in case.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Dec 5, 2015, at 6:22 PM, dougP  wrote:
> 
> FedEx & UPS have amazing powers.  At least the damage is minor & easily 
> repaired.  A friend rec'd his bike from one of them and the cardboard box had 
> 2 perfectly punched holes where someone had used a forklift to move the box.  
> Amazingly, the forks missed everything inside.  Another time I was assembling 
> my Atlantis at the start of a tour when I discovered the front wheel wouldn't 
> drop in, and the fork legs bent out of alignment.  A bit of judicious 
> tweaking got things straightened out. But the bike had been shipped in one of 
> those 30# heavy duty plastic bike boxes!  
> 
> dougP
> 
>> On Saturday, December 5, 2015 at 5:35:01 PM UTC-8, LeahFoy wrote:
>> J.P.'s Clem finally arrived at 7pm last night. We took it immediately to REI 
>> to have it assembled. Sadly, the box was damaged somewhere between Oregon 
>> and Nevada (thanks, FedEx), and when the mechanics assembled the bike, they 
>> noticed the chain guard was mangled. It was scratched up, bent inwards and 
>> hit the gears. Rivelo was gracious (as you know) and a replacement part is 
>> on the way. But geez, how hard did FedEx hit that box to do that kind of 
>> damage? The rest of the bike was largely intact. Maybe a paint ding or two, 
>> but Grant's philosophy came to mind - something about allowing a scratch, 
>> especially if the bike is really expensive - and we decided no big deal. The 
>> mechanics believed the wrong hardware was sent for the rack, which makes me 
>> nervous because I can't imagine the wrong parts were sent, and maybe the 
>> mechanics just don't understand. I wonder if they put the rack on correctly. 
>> I'm going to pretend they did for peace of mind. Also, anyone know the 
>> weight limit for the Clem Pletscher rack? 
>> 
>> We came home and we did a short ride without kids. It was so fun. I kept 
>> looking and looking at the bike and admiring the color. I don't think 
>> anyone's photos have showcased the true color of this bike. The blue is 
>> actually a creamy blue/teal that just looks suave and wild and rugged and 
>> gorgeous. My Betty looked washed out in comparison. How can this be?!? We 
>> don't have the cork grips or the Brooks yet, but we will, because my husband 
>> has a weird tendency to want to "match" with me. And I'm inclined to let 
>> him. Ha! 
>> 
>> Thanks to everyone who helped me make the decision, and thanks to John at 
>> Rivelo for making this happen! We'll ride more tomorrow! 
>> 
>> 
>> https://www.flickr.com/photos/daytondogg/albums/72157661891945032/with/22922164683/
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Re: [RBW] Re: Clem for my husband

2015-12-05 Thread Deacon Patrick
Yes, great pictures. Love the kissing photo! Our kids have our family of 
bikes as their own family, with my wife's as the mama, mine as the Papa 
(and my Quickbeam as the uncle) and theirs as the kids. REI may be right on 
the rack. The eyelets are upsized on the frame and we needed a hardware run 
to get the right bolts, which is why my lassies still don't have their 
racks on. Fortunately we have lots of snow, so they are having snowball 
fights rather than begging to do grocery runs with me. Sardonic grin.

With abandon,
Patrick

On Saturday, December 5, 2015 at 7:27:17 PM UTC-7, LeahFoy wrote:
>
> Ps Did you guys see the link at the end of the email? There's a big space 
> and I didn't mention it. Just in case.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Dec 5, 2015, at 6:22 PM, dougP  wrote:
>
> FedEx & UPS have amazing powers.  At least the damage is minor & easily 
> repaired.  A friend rec'd his bike from one of them and the cardboard box 
> had 2 perfectly punched holes where someone had used a forklift to move the 
> box.  Amazingly, the forks missed everything inside.  Another time I was 
> assembling my Atlantis at the start of a tour when I discovered the front 
> wheel wouldn't drop in, and the fork legs bent out of alignment.  A bit of 
> judicious tweaking got things straightened out. But the bike had been 
> shipped in one of those 30# heavy duty plastic bike boxes!  
>
> dougP
>
> On Saturday, December 5, 2015 at 5:35:01 PM UTC-8, LeahFoy wrote:
>>
>> J.P.'s Clem finally arrived at 7pm last night. We took it immediately to 
>> REI to have it assembled. Sadly, the box was damaged somewhere between 
>> Oregon and Nevada (thanks, FedEx), and when the mechanics assembled the 
>> bike, they noticed the chain guard was mangled. It was scratched up, bent 
>> inwards and hit the gears. Rivelo was gracious (as you know) and a 
>> replacement part is on the way. But geez, how hard did FedEx hit that box 
>> to do that kind of damage? The rest of the bike was largely intact. Maybe a 
>> paint ding or two, but Grant's philosophy came to mind - something about 
>> allowing a scratch, especially if the bike is really expensive - and we 
>> decided no big deal. The mechanics believed the wrong hardware was sent for 
>> the rack, which makes me nervous because I can't imagine the wrong parts 
>> were sent, and maybe the mechanics just don't understand. I wonder if they 
>> put the rack on correctly. I'm going to pretend they did for peace of mind. 
>> Also, anyone know the weight limit for the Clem Pletscher rack? 
>>
>> We came home and we did a short ride without kids. It was so fun. I kept 
>> looking and looking at the bike and admiring the color. I don't think 
>> anyone's photos have showcased the true color of this bike. The blue is 
>> actually a creamy blue/teal that just looks suave and wild and rugged and 
>> gorgeous. My Betty looked washed out in comparison. How can this be?!? We 
>> don't have the cork grips or the Brooks yet, but we will, because my 
>> husband has a weird tendency to want to "match" with me. And I'm inclined 
>> to let him. Ha! 
>>
>> Thanks to everyone who helped me make the decision, and thanks to John at 
>> Rivelo for making this happen! We'll ride more tomorrow! 
>>
>>
>>
>> https://www.flickr.com/photos/daytondogg/albums/72157661891945032/with/22922164683/
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Re: [RBW] Re: Clem for my husband

2015-12-04 Thread Montclair BobbyB

*Boy it's apparent your hubby is one lucky guy for many reasons (+1)... *
On Wednesday, November 25, 2015 at 7:37:34 PM UTC-5, LeahFoy wrote:
>
> It wasn't the extra wobble in his ride, or the inexplicably crooked 
> handlebars, neither the SNAP that came from merely shifting gears, nor the 
> new creaking noises with every pedal stroke. Rather, it was his friend 
> getting a new Specialized mountain bike that whet my husband's appetite for 
> an upgraded bike. We all rode to church together on Sunday and his buddy 
> said, "Here, try mine! I'll ride yours." Said friend looked like a circus 
> bear wobbling around, gears popping on that  half-decade-oldTarget bike. No 
> longer able to deny its state of disrepair, my husband gave in, and after 
> church the three of us started talking bikes. 
>
> Immediately I thought of the Clem. Immediately he thought of Specialized. 
> The friend looked on with interest. 
>
> I measured his PBH, which he couldn't decide was a violation of some kind 
> or great fun. I waxed about all things steel. I droned on about long chain 
> stays. I decried fat frame tubes and lack of braze-ons. I flattered. I came 
> very close to nagging. How can you spend $600 on a bike when $900 more 
> would get you a magical, Elven-made steel treasure from Rivendell? I put 
> him on my bike and made him circle the block. "Boy, you're right; that does 
> ride nice. Can we get a bike that looks like the Specialized and rides like 
> the Rivendell?" *Eyeroll.* 
>
> There was but one green 52 Clem at Rivendell. "But I don't like green. I 
> just don't like green. It's a deal breaker. Did you see the color of the 
> Specialized? I like that color." Flat gray and lime green, you guys. 
> *Another eyeroll.* I had to tell Will we'd pass, which made me sad, but I 
> decided to give John a call at Rivelo. He had 2 blue Clems in my husband's 
> size left!
>
> Well, my husband's name is on a "French blue" 52 Clem out of Oregon's 
> Rivelo! I never thought this day would come. It almost didn't come - only 
> hours ago, he called and said, "I think me having this bike would just put 
> you over the moon. So I don't care if it's not exactly my style, you call 
> and get it." Listen, people, I don't need to be told twice. Within minutes 
> John and I were friends and exchanging info. I added a Pletscher rack, 
> which will delight my husband when he sees it will hold a basketball. It's 
> his new bike, but I feel like I received the gift somehow. He's a CEO who 
> wears suits, drives a luxury car, is a lover of all things new and modern, 
> and never has a spare moment; I'm a stay at home mom who wears skinny jeans 
> and boots, yearns for simpler times, and prefers to "bike there." He bikes 
> to be with the boys and me. And I'm wearing him down, you see. Just the 
> other day he submitted to a flannel shirt!
>
> And today he has a Rivendell. 
>
> Life is good.
>
> Happy Thanksgiving and Merry Christmas,
> Leah
>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Clem for my husband

2015-12-04 Thread cyclotour...@gmail.com
Happy New Bike Day!

On Friday, December 4, 2015 at 9:01:52 AM UTC-8, LeahFoy wrote:
>
> You are too kind. Guess what's arriving today? I asked him if he wanted to 
> be here for The Unboxing or if I should just proceed with having the bike 
> built. He doesn't understand about the magic of The Unboxing. He just wants 
> it ready to ride this weekend. *Grin*
>
> My only regret: his cork grips will not be here in time. You can't have it 
> all, I guess. 
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Re: [RBW] Re: Clem for my husband

2015-12-04 Thread LeahFoy
You are too kind. Guess what's arriving today? I asked him if he wanted to be 
here for The Unboxing or if I should just proceed with having the bike built. 
He doesn't understand about the magic of The Unboxing. He just wants it ready 
to ride this weekend. *Grin*

My only regret: his cork grips will not be here in time. You can't have it all, 
I guess. 

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Re: [RBW] Re: Clem for my husband

2015-12-04 Thread Jon Dukeman in the foothills of Colorado

Pics please!!!

>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Clem for my husband

2015-12-04 Thread dougP
For the best effect, he HAS to be there for the unboxing!  

dougP

On Friday, December 4, 2015 at 9:01:52 AM UTC-8, LeahFoy wrote:
>
> You are too kind. Guess what's arriving today? I asked him if he wanted to 
> be here for The Unboxing or if I should just proceed with having the bike 
> built. He doesn't understand about the magic of The Unboxing. He just wants 
> it ready to ride this weekend. *Grin*
>
> My only regret: his cork grips will not be here in time. You can't have it 
> all, I guess. 
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Clem for my husband

2015-12-04 Thread Deacon Patrick
+1. We can't know what we're missing until we haven't. Sardonic grin.

With abandon,
Patrick

On Friday, December 4, 2015 at 4:30:42 PM UTC-7, dougP wrote:
>
> For the best effect, he HAS to be there for the unboxing!  
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Re: [RBW] Re: Clem for my husband

2015-11-30 Thread Shoji Takahashi
Great story, Leah. Looking forward to reading the epilogue.

I've dropped hints to my wife about a Betty Foy and then the Cheviot. She 
was interested but not that interested. Fortunately, we're close enough in 
PBH to make it work for me! One of these days... 

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On Friday, November 27, 2015 at 12:23:48 AM UTC-5, Lungimsam wrote:
>
> Congrats on the accomplishment, Leah!
> One of the most entertaining posts I've ever read here!
> Been trying to get my wife on a Rivendell for a long time now. I thought 
> she was just about ready. Thought it was gonna be a lock...her Raleigh is 
> gettin old and the shifting is not great. Her brake lever is bent..I threw 
> the idea out there for a Rivendell again...I mean, who wouldn't accept a 
> 3,000$ gift from their spouse, right?
> Then she said she now wants an electric bike.

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Re: [RBW] Re: Clem for my husband

2015-11-27 Thread islaysteve
Leah, let me add my thanks and "like" to you for the great write-up, and the 
accomplishment!  I'm sure your husband will enjoy his bike more with every 
mile.  I look forward to your updates!

(Michael):  Perhaps a $3,000 Rivendell is not for everyone, but you're a great 
husband to want to give such a gift to your wife.  Just some thoughts-- Old  
Raleighs can make for great restoration projects.  See a recent post on Lovely 
Bicycle! for an example.  She might like riding it more if you made it 
beautiful and functional for her.  And, given the hilly terrain in your area, 
perhaps the dreaded e-bike wouldn't be the end of the world.  At least it might 
get her out and riding with you.  Cheers, Steve

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Re: [RBW] Re: Clem for my husband

2015-11-27 Thread George Millwood
Thanks for the story Leah, it gives all of us with recalcitrant spouses 
hope for the future!
 

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Re: [RBW] Re: Clem for my husband

2015-11-26 Thread BenG
I enjoyed your story, Leah. You're a good writer!

The new CEO I serve rides a carbon "triathlon" bike.  When I met him we were 
standing 20' from my mystery bike, and he was willing to take a look. Cast lugs 
with gold-lined cutouts, lots of steel tubes (some curvy), leather saddle, 
nickel-plated racks and a freeking basket. Struggling to come up with a 
positive response, he leaned over the drive side, saw the derailer and 
congratulated me on the great X7 model (it was an LX viewed upside-down).  Be 
patient!

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Re: [RBW] Re: Clem for my husband

2015-11-26 Thread Jon Dukeman in the foothills of Colorado
WOW! Great story Leah!
Your man is a lucky guy..not only because he has a new Rivendell... because 
he is married to a woman  who  loves bikes, knows bikes, loves to ride and 
appreciates and understands that a quality bike makes for a more 
pleasurable experience..
PICS PLEASE:)
Happy Thanksgiving!
Jon


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Re: [RBW] Re: Clem for my husband

2015-11-26 Thread Patrick Moore
The drama of this *histoire* is epic! I can't wait to see photos of the new
Clem. I'll wager 3:1 that your husband fully agrees with your decision
within a week of receipt.

Re the Target mtb: it really lasted 5 years of actual riding

On Wed, Nov 25, 2015 at 5:37 PM, LeahFoy  wrote:

>  It wasn't the extra wobble in his ride, or the inexplicably crooked
> handlebars, neither the SNAP that came from merely shifting gears, nor the
> new creaking noises with every pedal stroke. Rather, it was his friend
> getting a new Specialized mountain bike that whet my husband's appetite for
> an upgraded bike. We all rode to church together on Sunday and his buddy
> said, "Here, try mine! I'll ride yours." Said friend looked like a circus
> bear wobbling around, gears popping on that  half-decade-oldTarget bike. No
> longer able to deny its state of disrepair, my husband gave in, and after
> church the three of us started talking bikes.
>
> Immediately I thought of the Clem. Immediately he thought of Specialized.
> The friend looked on with interest.
>
> I measured his PBH, which he couldn't decide was a violation of some kind
> or great fun. I waxed about all things steel. I droned on about long chain
> stays. I decried fat frame tubes and lack of braze-ons. I flattered. I came
> very close to nagging. How can you spend $600 on a bike when $900 more
> would get you a magical, Elven-made steel treasure from Rivendell? I put
> him on my bike and made him circle the block. "Boy, you're right; that does
> ride nice. Can we get a bike that looks like the Specialized and rides like
> the Rivendell?" *Eyeroll.*
>
> There was but one green 52 Clem at Rivendell. "But I don't like green. I
> just don't like green. It's a deal breaker. Did you see the color of the
> Specialized? I like that color." Flat gray and lime green, you guys.
> *Another eyeroll.* I had to tell Will we'd pass, which made me sad, but I
> decided to give John a call at Rivelo. He had 2 blue Clems in my husband's
> size left!
>
> Well, my husband's name is on a "French blue" 52 Clem out of Oregon's
> Rivelo! I never thought this day would come. It almost didn't come - only
> hours ago, he called and said, "I think me having this bike would just put
> you over the moon. So I don't care if it's not exactly my style, you call
> and get it." Listen, people, I don't need to be told twice. Within minutes
> John and I were friends and exchanging info. I added a Pletscher rack,
> which will delight my husband when he sees it will hold a basketball. It's
> his new bike, but I feel like I received the gift somehow. He's a CEO who
> wears suits, drives a luxury car, is a lover of all things new and modern,
> and never has a spare moment; I'm a stay at home mom who wears skinny jeans
> and boots, yearns for simpler times, and prefers to "bike there." He bikes
> to be with the boys and me. And I'm wearing him down, you see. Just the
> other day he submitted to a flannel shirt!
>
> And today he has a Rivendell.
>
> Life is good.
>
> Happy Thanksgiving and Merry Christmas,
> Leah
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Re: [RBW] Re: Clem for my husband

2015-11-26 Thread LeahFoy
Not the dreaded e-bike! That may be worse than my husband's Target special! Ok, 
maybe not, but I just know Grant would disapprove. :)

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Re: [RBW] Re: Clem for my husband

2015-11-26 Thread LeahFoy
KC - I'm intrigued by your story! I urge you to tell it! How can you leave us 
hanging? Did he get a bike? What happened to his old one? Is it now "the guest 
bike"? How is your Cheviot? Does he insist you match? How does he feel about 
the color green? Was he horrified or delighted with the PBH trick? Haha!

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Re: [RBW] Re: Clem for my husband

2015-11-26 Thread Lungimsam
Congrats on the accomplishment, Leah!
One of the most entertaining posts I've ever read here!
Been trying to get my wife on a Rivendell for a long time now. I thought she 
was just about ready. Thought it was gonna be a lock...her Raleigh is gettin 
old and the shifting is not great. Her brake lever is bent..I threw the idea 
out there for a Rivendell again...I mean, who wouldn't accept a 3,000$ gift 
from their spouse, right?
Then she said she now wants an electric bike.

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Re: [RBW] Re: Clem for my husband

2015-11-26 Thread LeahFoy
Thanks, you all. You are too kind. BenG, I laughed at the CEO story out loud. 
Sigh, let him ride it a mile and I bet he makes you an offer. 

One of my husband's quirks is that he likes to "match." Like, on weekends, he 
watches me get dressed and then rummages through his closet for some 
correlating ensemble. Maddening and flattering! He's excited about his bike if 
we can have matching grips and a matching saddle. He wants to use his rack. He 
thinks it's cool he can bring his stuff.  I don't think he has thought two 
seconds about the ride! I'll update his thoughts and pics when the time comes. 
Don't get your hopes up, the nicest aspects of his Rivendell are likely to 
completely escape his notice.

Patrick - yes, if tooling around with his family and in our neighborhood counts 
as riding. It's very, very light riding. Anything more and he probably would 
have had a catastrophic event - that thing is unsafe! When he got on my Betty 
Foy, he looked back at me and called, "Hey, there's something wrong with your 
bike! The handlebars line up with the front wheel!"  Sigh again. I tried to 
relegate his bike to the trash, but he rescued it and insists it's now "the 
guest bike." Triple sigh.

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Re: [RBW] Re: Clem for my husband

2015-11-25 Thread LeahFoy
 It wasn't the extra wobble in his ride, or the inexplicably crooked 
handlebars, neither the SNAP that came from merely shifting gears, nor the new 
creaking noises with every pedal stroke. Rather, it was his friend getting a 
new Specialized mountain bike that whet my husband's appetite for an upgraded 
bike. We all rode to church together on Sunday and his buddy said, "Here, try 
mine! I'll ride yours." Said friend looked like a circus bear wobbling around, 
gears popping on that  half-decade-oldTarget bike. No longer able to deny its 
state of disrepair, my husband gave in, and after church the three of us 
started talking bikes. 

Immediately I thought of the Clem. Immediately he thought of Specialized. The 
friend looked on with interest. 

I measured his PBH, which he couldn't decide was a violation of some kind or 
great fun. I waxed about all things steel. I droned on about long chain stays. 
I decried fat frame tubes and lack of braze-ons. I flattered. I came very close 
to nagging. How can you spend $600 on a bike when $900 more would get you a 
magical, Elven-made steel treasure from Rivendell? I put him on my bike and 
made him circle the block. "Boy, you're right; that does ride nice. Can we get 
a bike that looks like the Specialized and rides like the Rivendell?" 
*Eyeroll.* 

There was but one green 52 Clem at Rivendell. "But I don't like green. I just 
don't like green. It's a deal breaker. Did you see the color of the 
Specialized? I like that color." Flat gray and lime green, you guys. *Another 
eyeroll.* I had to tell Will we'd pass, which made me sad, but I decided to 
give John a call at Rivelo. He had 2 blue Clems in my husband's size left!

Well, my husband's name is on a "French blue" 52 Clem out of Oregon's Rivelo! I 
never thought this day would come. It almost didn't come - only hours ago, he 
called and said, "I think me having this bike would just put you over the moon. 
So I don't care if it's not exactly my style, you call and get it." Listen, 
people, I don't need to be told twice. Within minutes John and I were friends 
and exchanging info. I added a Pletscher rack, which will delight my husband 
when he sees it will hold a basketball. It's his new bike, but I feel like I 
received the gift somehow. He's a CEO who wears suits, drives a luxury car, is 
a lover of all things new and modern, and never has a spare moment; I'm a stay 
at home mom who wears skinny jeans and boots, yearns for simpler times, and 
prefers to "bike there." He bikes to be with the boys and me. And I'm wearing 
him down, you see. Just the other day he submitted to a flannel shirt!

And today he has a Rivendell. 

Life is good.

Happy Thanksgiving and Merry Christmas,
Leah

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Re: [RBW] Re: Clem for my husband

2015-11-25 Thread KC
I am so happy for *you.*  He will now share your affliction and it will be 
wonderful.  May as well order the wald basket right now if you really want 
him to be able to carry the basketball.  
I would like to warn you not to let your husband ever meet or engage with 
Bill Lindsay as he then might get totally out of control.  
(My husband had absolutely no need for a new bike while I unflinchingly 
moved forward with my Cheviot I knew I had to have.  So I had him ride my 
daughter-in-laws Romulus and he immediately understood why he too needed a 
bike change)


On Wednesday, November 25, 2015 at 4:37:34 PM UTC-8, LeahFoy wrote:

> It wasn't the extra wobble in his ride, or the inexplicably crooked 
> handlebars, neither the SNAP that came from merely shifting gears, nor the 
> new creaking noises with every pedal stroke. Rather, it was his friend 
> getting a new Specialized mountain bike that whet my husband's appetite for 
> an upgraded bike. We all rode to church together on Sunday and his buddy 
> said, "Here, try mine! I'll ride yours." Said friend looked like a circus 
> bear wobbling around, gears popping on that  half-decade-oldTarget bike. No 
> longer able to deny its state of disrepair, my husband gave in, and after 
> church the three of us started talking bikes. 
>
> Immediately I thought of the Clem. Immediately he thought of Specialized. 
> The friend looked on with interest. 
>
> I measured his PBH, which he couldn't decide was a violation of some kind 
> or great fun. I waxed about all things steel. I droned on about long chain 
> stays. I decried fat frame tubes and lack of braze-ons. I flattered. I came 
> very close to nagging. How can you spend $600 on a bike when $900 more 
> would get you a magical, Elven-made steel treasure from Rivendell? I put 
> him on my bike and made him circle the block. "Boy, you're right; that does 
> ride nice. Can we get a bike that looks like the Specialized and rides like 
> the Rivendell?" *Eyeroll.* 
>
> There was but one green 52 Clem at Rivendell. "But I don't like green. I 
> just don't like green. It's a deal breaker. Did you see the color of the 
> Specialized? I like that color." Flat gray and lime green, you guys. 
> *Another eyeroll.* I had to tell Will we'd pass, which made me sad, but I 
> decided to give John a call at Rivelo. He had 2 blue Clems in my husband's 
> size left!
>
> Well, my husband's name is on a "French blue" 52 Clem out of Oregon's 
> Rivelo! I never thought this day would come. It almost didn't come - only 
> hours ago, he called and said, "I think me having this bike would just put 
> you over the moon. So I don't care if it's not exactly my style, you call 
> and get it." Listen, people, I don't need to be told twice. Within minutes 
> John and I were friends and exchanging info. I added a Pletscher rack, 
> which will delight my husband when he sees it will hold a basketball. It's 
> his new bike, but I feel like I received the gift somehow. He's a CEO who 
> wears suits, drives a luxury car, is a lover of all things new and modern, 
> and never has a spare moment; I'm a stay at home mom who wears skinny jeans 
> and boots, yearns for simpler times, and prefers to "bike there." He bikes 
> to be with the boys and me. And I'm wearing him down, you see. Just the 
> other day he submitted to a flannel shirt!
>
> And today he has a Rivendell. 
>
> Life is good.
>
> Happy Thanksgiving and Merry Christmas,
> Leah
>
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Clem for my husband

2015-11-25 Thread Bill Lindsay
That's the best thing I've read this week.  It's not even close. 
 Fan-Tas-Tic.  Thank you for posting that

Bill Lindsay
El Cerrito CA

On Wednesday, November 25, 2015 at 4:37:34 PM UTC-8, LeahFoy wrote:
>
> It wasn't the extra wobble in his ride, or the inexplicably crooked 
> handlebars, neither the SNAP that came from merely shifting gears, nor the 
> new creaking noises with every pedal stroke. Rather, it was his friend 
> getting a new Specialized mountain bike that whet my husband's appetite for 
> an upgraded bike. We all rode to church together on Sunday and his buddy 
> said, "Here, try mine! I'll ride yours." Said friend looked like a circus 
> bear wobbling around, gears popping on that  half-decade-oldTarget bike. No 
> longer able to deny its state of disrepair, my husband gave in, and after 
> church the three of us started talking bikes. 
>
> Immediately I thought of the Clem. Immediately he thought of Specialized. 
> The friend looked on with interest. 
>
> I measured his PBH, which he couldn't decide was a violation of some kind 
> or great fun. I waxed about all things steel. I droned on about long chain 
> stays. I decried fat frame tubes and lack of braze-ons. I flattered. I came 
> very close to nagging. How can you spend $600 on a bike when $900 more 
> would get you a magical, Elven-made steel treasure from Rivendell? I put 
> him on my bike and made him circle the block. "Boy, you're right; that does 
> ride nice. Can we get a bike that looks like the Specialized and rides like 
> the Rivendell?" *Eyeroll.* 
>
> There was but one green 52 Clem at Rivendell. "But I don't like green. I 
> just don't like green. It's a deal breaker. Did you see the color of the 
> Specialized? I like that color." Flat gray and lime green, you guys. 
> *Another eyeroll.* I had to tell Will we'd pass, which made me sad, but I 
> decided to give John a call at Rivelo. He had 2 blue Clems in my husband's 
> size left!
>
> Well, my husband's name is on a "French blue" 52 Clem out of Oregon's 
> Rivelo! I never thought this day would come. It almost didn't come - only 
> hours ago, he called and said, "I think me having this bike would just put 
> you over the moon. So I don't care if it's not exactly my style, you call 
> and get it." Listen, people, I don't need to be told twice. Within minutes 
> John and I were friends and exchanging info. I added a Pletscher rack, 
> which will delight my husband when he sees it will hold a basketball. It's 
> his new bike, but I feel like I received the gift somehow. He's a CEO who 
> wears suits, drives a luxury car, is a lover of all things new and modern, 
> and never has a spare moment; I'm a stay at home mom who wears skinny jeans 
> and boots, yearns for simpler times, and prefers to "bike there." He bikes 
> to be with the boys and me. And I'm wearing him down, you see. Just the 
> other day he submitted to a flannel shirt!
>
> And today he has a Rivendell. 
>
> Life is good.
>
> Happy Thanksgiving and Merry Christmas,
> Leah
>
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Clem for my husband

2015-11-25 Thread David Person
Great story Leah.  Thanks for sharing with the group.  It is beginning to feel 
like flannel shirt weather here in So. Cal.

David P.

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Re: [RBW] Re: Clem for my husband

2015-11-25 Thread dougP
That's a great story, Leah.  Congratulations to both of you.  Maybe he 
needs a railroad shirt from Rivendell to help expand his sartorial 
choices?  

dougP

On Wednesday, November 25, 2015 at 4:37:34 PM UTC-8, LeahFoy wrote:
>
> It wasn't the extra wobble in his ride, or the inexplicably crooked 
> handlebars, neither the SNAP that came from merely shifting gears, nor the 
> new creaking noises with every pedal stroke. Rather, it was his friend 
> getting a new Specialized mountain bike that whet my husband's appetite for 
> an upgraded bike. We all rode to church together on Sunday and his buddy 
> said, "Here, try mine! I'll ride yours." Said friend looked like a circus 
> bear wobbling around, gears popping on that  half-decade-oldTarget bike. No 
> longer able to deny its state of disrepair, my husband gave in, and after 
> church the three of us started talking bikes. 
>
> Immediately I thought of the Clem. Immediately he thought of Specialized. 
> The friend looked on with interest. 
>
> I measured his PBH, which he couldn't decide was a violation of some kind 
> or great fun. I waxed about all things steel. I droned on about long chain 
> stays. I decried fat frame tubes and lack of braze-ons. I flattered. I came 
> very close to nagging. How can you spend $600 on a bike when $900 more 
> would get you a magical, Elven-made steel treasure from Rivendell? I put 
> him on my bike and made him circle the block. "Boy, you're right; that does 
> ride nice. Can we get a bike that looks like the Specialized and rides like 
> the Rivendell?" *Eyeroll.* 
>
> There was but one green 52 Clem at Rivendell. "But I don't like green. I 
> just don't like green. It's a deal breaker. Did you see the color of the 
> Specialized? I like that color." Flat gray and lime green, you guys. 
> *Another eyeroll.* I had to tell Will we'd pass, which made me sad, but I 
> decided to give John a call at Rivelo. He had 2 blue Clems in my husband's 
> size left!
>
> Well, my husband's name is on a "French blue" 52 Clem out of Oregon's 
> Rivelo! I never thought this day would come. It almost didn't come - only 
> hours ago, he called and said, "I think me having this bike would just put 
> you over the moon. So I don't care if it's not exactly my style, you call 
> and get it." Listen, people, I don't need to be told twice. Within minutes 
> John and I were friends and exchanging info. I added a Pletscher rack, 
> which will delight my husband when he sees it will hold a basketball. It's 
> his new bike, but I feel like I received the gift somehow. He's a CEO who 
> wears suits, drives a luxury car, is a lover of all things new and modern, 
> and never has a spare moment; I'm a stay at home mom who wears skinny jeans 
> and boots, yearns for simpler times, and prefers to "bike there." He bikes 
> to be with the boys and me. And I'm wearing him down, you see. Just the 
> other day he submitted to a flannel shirt!
>
> And today he has a Rivendell. 
>
> Life is good.
>
> Happy Thanksgiving and Merry Christmas,
> Leah
>
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Clem for my husband

2015-11-25 Thread John A. Bennett
Thank you, Leah. Much appreciated! 

John and Darby at Rivelo in Sunny (really) Portland, Oregon

On Wednesday, November 25, 2015 at 4:37:34 PM UTC-8, LeahFoy wrote:
>
> It wasn't the extra wobble in his ride, or the inexplicably crooked 
> handlebars, neither the SNAP that came from merely shifting gears, nor the 
> new creaking noises with every pedal stroke. Rather, it was his friend 
> getting a new Specialized mountain bike that whet my husband's appetite for 
> an upgraded bike. We all rode to church together on Sunday and his buddy 
> said, "Here, try mine! I'll ride yours." Said friend looked like a circus 
> bear wobbling around, gears popping on that  half-decade-oldTarget bike. No 
> longer able to deny its state of disrepair, my husband gave in, and after 
> church the three of us started talking bikes. 
>
> Immediately I thought of the Clem. Immediately he thought of Specialized. 
> The friend looked on with interest. 
>
> I measured his PBH, which he couldn't decide was a violation of some kind 
> or great fun. I waxed about all things steel. I droned on about long chain 
> stays. I decried fat frame tubes and lack of braze-ons. I flattered. I came 
> very close to nagging. How can you spend $600 on a bike when $900 more 
> would get you a magical, Elven-made steel treasure from Rivendell? I put 
> him on my bike and made him circle the block. "Boy, you're right; that does 
> ride nice. Can we get a bike that looks like the Specialized and rides like 
> the Rivendell?" *Eyeroll.* 
>
> There was but one green 52 Clem at Rivendell. "But I don't like green. I 
> just don't like green. It's a deal breaker. Did you see the color of the 
> Specialized? I like that color." Flat gray and lime green, you guys. 
> *Another eyeroll.* I had to tell Will we'd pass, which made me sad, but I 
> decided to give John a call at Rivelo. He had 2 blue Clems in my husband's 
> size left!
>
> Well, my husband's name is on a "French blue" 52 Clem out of Oregon's 
> Rivelo! I never thought this day would come. It almost didn't come - only 
> hours ago, he called and said, "I think me having this bike would just put 
> you over the moon. So I don't care if it's not exactly my style, you call 
> and get it." Listen, people, I don't need to be told twice. Within minutes 
> John and I were friends and exchanging info. I added a Pletscher rack, 
> which will delight my husband when he sees it will hold a basketball. It's 
> his new bike, but I feel like I received the gift somehow. He's a CEO who 
> wears suits, drives a luxury car, is a lover of all things new and modern, 
> and never has a spare moment; I'm a stay at home mom who wears skinny jeans 
> and boots, yearns for simpler times, and prefers to "bike there." He bikes 
> to be with the boys and me. And I'm wearing him down, you see. Just the 
> other day he submitted to a flannel shirt!
>
> And today he has a Rivendell. 
>
> Life is good.
>
> Happy Thanksgiving and Merry Christmas,
> Leah
>
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Clem for my husband

2015-11-22 Thread Kathy Carroll
So worth a trip to RBW to test ride.
On Nov 22, 2015 6:23 PM, "dougP"  wrote:

> Someone's getting a super duper Christmas present.  I can hear him now:
> "I would never have believed a bike could be so much fun and feel this good
> to ride."
>
> dougP
>
> On Sunday, November 22, 2015 at 11:37:42 AM UTC-8, LeahFoy wrote:
>>
>> So, my husband rides - get ready for this - a Target Schwinn, purchased
>> over 5 years ago that feels as though it is going to fall apart at any
>> moment. Wobbly. Poor shifting. Bent bars. Awful. He never spends money on
>> himself, but my excitement over my bike has rubbed off on him, and he's
>> willing to look at the Clem. Now, I see there's not but a few left, so I
>> better get serious fast. I measured his PBH and he is about 86.3 cm. Does
>> that put him on a 59 Clem? He's 6ft tall, about 180, if that matters at all.
>>
>> Hopeful in Nevada,
>> Leah
>>
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