Re: [RBW] Re: MIT Roadeo coming?

2018-08-04 Thread Mark Anderson
On Friday, August 3, 2018 at 12:39:58 PM UTC-5, Joe Bernard wrote:
>
> What the heck is niobium?? I have Oakley shades made of "unobtanium", 
> which sounds about as legit.


Niobium is element 41, a transition metal.  It was previously called 
columbium, but the name change was some time ago.  

Niobium bike tubes are steel with a wee bit of niobium alloyed in.  It 
presumably changes the properties of the steel in some way I can't be 
bothered to worry about.

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Re: [RBW] Re: MIT Roadeo coming?

2018-08-04 Thread Lum Gim Fong
A few years ago they had more sizes. Guess they got bought up.

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Re: [RBW] Re: MIT Roadeo coming?

2018-08-04 Thread Belopsky
Did anyone miss the part that Alex's only has 52cm in stock? OK cool.

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Re: [RBW] Re: MIT Roadeo coming?

2018-08-04 Thread Lum Gim Fong
I think it would have been nice for them to ask RBW first.
But RBW says they have had a really good relationship with “them” (toyo?). So 
they didn’t mind.

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Re: [RBW] Re: MIT Roadeo coming?

2018-08-04 Thread 'Tim' via RBW Owners Bunch
Quite a difference between Grant/Riv and Specialized. Specialized threatened to 
sue a bike shop called Cafe Roubaix and the guy had to change the name.

http://bikesnobnyc.blogspot.com/2013/12/roubaix-roubaix-roubaix-roubaix.html

I'm not so sure I'm on board with someone else making and selling a 
"Rivendell." 

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Re: [RBW] Re: MIT Roadeo coming?

2018-08-03 Thread Don Compton
The largest size is 56ctc. Oh well

On Friday, August 3, 2018 at 9:13:18 AM UTC-7, Brewster Fong wrote:
>
>
>
> https://alexscycle.com/collections/randonneur-frames/products/rivendell-rambouillet-frame-front-fork-1
>
> On Friday, August 3, 2018 at 7:39:16 AM UTC-7, Fullylugged wrote:
>>
>> Alex cycles has new Rams made with niobium tubing in blue and green in 
>> 50, 52, and 56 sizes for $1,625 plus shipping (frameset).  Good deal for 
>> those wanting them. I think supply is very limited. 
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone 
>>
>> > On Aug 3, 2018, at 8:56 AM, 'Tim' via RBW Owners Bunch <
>> rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com> wrote: 
>> > 
>> > Christopher, what do you mean that it's still possible to get a new Ram 
>> from Japan? Is there NOS out there? Nothing I have read or heard would lead 
>> me to believe that there are new Ramboullets coming out of Japan. This 
>> would not be the first time I've not known what I'm talking about. 
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Re: [RBW] Re: MIT Roadeo coming?

2018-08-03 Thread Joe Bernard
It's come up a few times here. This thead is the most information I've seen 
about The Mystery Rambouillet. 

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Re: [RBW] Re: MIT Roadeo coming?

2018-08-03 Thread 'Tim' via RBW Owners Bunch
I'm shocked, shocked, I tell you! Has the Alex Ram been mentioned here before 
and I missed it? I would have thought it would get mentioned more often. I 
don't recall ever having seen it mentioned on the Blug or Blahg. At that price 
I'd think they would sell quite a few of those.

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Re: [RBW] Re: MIT Roadeo coming?

2018-08-03 Thread Belopsky
actually only the 52 in green and blue is available

On Friday, August 3, 2018 at 12:13:18 PM UTC-4, Brewster Fong wrote:
>
>
>
> https://alexscycle.com/collections/randonneur-frames/products/rivendell-rambouillet-frame-front-fork-1
>
> On Friday, August 3, 2018 at 7:39:16 AM UTC-7, Fullylugged wrote:
>>
>> Alex cycles has new Rams made with niobium tubing in blue and green in 
>> 50, 52, and 56 sizes for $1,625 plus shipping (frameset).  Good deal for 
>> those wanting them. I think supply is very limited. 
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone 
>>
>> > On Aug 3, 2018, at 8:56 AM, 'Tim' via RBW Owners Bunch <
>> rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com> wrote: 
>> > 
>> > Christopher, what do you mean that it's still possible to get a new Ram 
>> from Japan? Is there NOS out there? Nothing I have read or heard would lead 
>> me to believe that there are new Ramboullets coming out of Japan. This 
>> would not be the first time I've not known what I'm talking about. 
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Re: [RBW] Re: MIT Roadeo coming?

2018-08-03 Thread bruce.herbit...@gmail.com
 I don't think they're using actual niobium tubes (these go in nuclear 
reactors) but rather an alloy.  See this page from Columbus.
Columbus Tubi


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On Friday, August 3, 2018, 1:59:57 PM CDT, Brewster Fong  
wrote:  
 
 Niobium tubing is Chinese-made tubing that I think Ritchey uses on its steel 
frames:

http://www.firmetal.com/niobium/niobium-tube-pipe.html

After all, weren't people asking what is Kaisei tubing just a few years ago?!  
Of course, Kaisei tubing use to be known as Ishiwata tubing which is good 
stuff!  

Good Luck!

On Friday, August 3, 2018 at 10:39:58 AM UTC-7, Joe Bernard wrote:
What the heck is niobium?? I have Oakley shades made of "unobtanium", which 
sounds about as legit. 


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Re: [RBW] Re: MIT Roadeo coming?

2018-08-03 Thread Brewster Fong
Niobium tubing is Chinese-made tubing that I think Ritchey uses on its 
steel frames:

http://www.firmetal.com/niobium/niobium-tube-pipe.html

After all, weren't people asking what is Kaisei tubing just a few years 
ago?!  Of course, Kaisei tubing use to be known as Ishiwata tubing which is 
good stuff!  

Good Luck!

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>
> What the heck is niobium?? I have Oakley shades made of "unobtanium", 
> which sounds about as legit. 

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Re: [RBW] Re: MIT Roadeo coming?

2018-08-03 Thread Bruce Herbitter
Beautiful bike!

Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 3, 2018, at 12:44 PM, Brian Campbell  wrote:
> 
> I bought a used custom on this list as my "poor man's" Roadeo. It fits 32's 
> without fenders and minus the seat bag and water bottle weighs just shy of 
> 22lbs. Light weight tubing throughout and no accomodations for racks.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On Tuesday, July 31, 2018 at 9:06:05 AM UTC-4, Lum Gim Fong wrote:
>> Let me qualify what I said by saying I thought I read Roadeo is 7/4/7. 
>> Legolas I thought I read that, too, but I think only way to get is custom 
>> .
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Re: [RBW] Re: MIT Roadeo coming?

2018-08-03 Thread Joe Bernard
What the heck is niobium?? I have Oakley shades made of "unobtanium", which 
sounds about as legit. 

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Re: [RBW] Re: MIT Roadeo coming?

2018-08-03 Thread Lum Gim Fong
RBW said Alex’s Rams might be made of leftover lugs but they don’t know what 
tubing they would be using so I wonder if it is really the same thing?

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Re: [RBW] Re: MIT Roadeo coming?

2018-08-03 Thread Brewster Fong

https://alexscycle.com/collections/randonneur-frames/products/rivendell-rambouillet-frame-front-fork-1

On Friday, August 3, 2018 at 7:39:16 AM UTC-7, Fullylugged wrote:
>
> Alex cycles has new Rams made with niobium tubing in blue and green in 50, 
> 52, and 56 sizes for $1,625 plus shipping (frameset).  Good deal for those 
> wanting them. I think supply is very limited. 
>
> Sent from my iPhone 
>
> > On Aug 3, 2018, at 8:56 AM, 'Tim' via RBW Owners Bunch <
> rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com > wrote: 
> > 
> > Christopher, what do you mean that it's still possible to get a new Ram 
> from Japan? Is there NOS out there? Nothing I have read or heard would lead 
> me to believe that there are new Ramboullets coming out of Japan. This 
> would not be the first time I've not known what I'm talking about. 
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Re: [RBW] Re: MIT Roadeo coming?

2018-08-03 Thread Bruce Herbitter
Alex cycles has new Rams made with niobium tubing in blue and green in 50, 52, 
and 56 sizes for $1,625 plus shipping (frameset).  Good deal for those wanting 
them. I think supply is very limited. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 3, 2018, at 8:56 AM, 'Tim' via RBW Owners Bunch 
>  wrote:
> 
> Christopher, what do you mean that it's still possible to get a new Ram from 
> Japan? Is there NOS out there? Nothing I have read or heard would lead me to 
> believe that there are new Ramboullets coming out of Japan. This would not be 
> the first time I've not known what I'm talking about. 
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Re: [RBW] Re: MIT Roadeo coming?

2018-07-31 Thread Patrick Moore
After reading the rest of the thread, I *did* hear from a couple of others!

Patrick Moore, who would take a 57.

On Tue, Jul 31, 2018 at 6:33 PM, Patrick Moore  wrote:

> I'd be interested to hear from others who have ridden both: does the
> Roadeo ride differently from the Ram and, if so, how? One earlier
> respondent said that the Roodeo was slightly quicker in handling and felt
> more spritely.
>
> I'd buy a Roadeo if this were true; I've owned a Ram, and though a worthy
> bike, it was a wee bit sedate for my use of it (that is, I wanted a true
> "road bike" and not at all an all rounder or tourer.)
>
> On Tue, Jul 31, 2018 at 5:10 PM, Justin, Oakland 
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>> If you already have a Ram then I don’t know if the Roadeo will be a huge
>> change. Unless there’s a tire you can’t fit.
>> -J
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Re: [RBW] Re: MIT Roadeo coming?

2018-07-31 Thread Patrick Moore
I'd be interested to hear from others who have ridden both: does the Roadeo
ride differently from the Ram and, if so, how? One earlier respondent said
that the Roodeo was slightly quicker in handling and felt more spritely.

I'd buy a Roadeo if this were true; I've owned a Ram, and though a worthy
bike, it was a wee bit sedate for my use of it (that is, I wanted a true
"road bike" and not at all an all rounder or tourer.)

On Tue, Jul 31, 2018 at 5:10 PM, Justin, Oakland 
wrote:

> If you already have a Ram then I don’t know if the Roadeo will be a huge
> change. Unless there’s a tire you can’t fit.
> -J
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