Re: [RBW] Re: Once you go Riv can you ever go back?
Mike, If I may, I'll keep your mom in my prayers. With abandon, Patrick -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Once you go Riv can you ever go back?
Thank you Patrick. This list is a great little community. --mike On Wednesday, November 20, 2013 2:53:05 AM UTC-8, Deacon Patrick wrote: Mike, If I may, I'll keep your mom in my prayers. With abandon, Patrick -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Once you go Riv can you ever go back?
Yep a pre-ride gospel might work but I know my audience and it worked better post ride. I just know what kind of ride I like these days and if I ride with them I sort of know it'll be a rush push, so if I remain true to what I like and when I occasionally ride with them it'll be in a relaxed manner perhaps it will rub off? Peace, ~Hugh On Wed, Nov 20, 2013 at 12:01 PM, Montclair BobbyB montclairbob...@gmail.com wrote: *What I took away from this experience is that while on the ride I barely had time to take a picture, I kept looking at all the amazing dirt roads we were passing and that's where I wanted to ride. * *... no smiles just grimaces...* SO TRUE!!! ... Maybe a little pre-ride gospel: *Take time to see and enjoy the beauty, and the world always looks brighter from behind a smile...* Peace, BB On Monday, November 18, 2013 12:31:34 AM UTC-5, hsmitham wrote: Mike, Timely, I was going to make a similar post...an old riding partner returned to Los Angeles after living in Massachusetts for three years I always rode race bike mode with him and wore a sausage suit, this Summer I was cleaning out my Bike clothing closet and stuffed all my kits into two bags and stowed them in my attic preferring comfort clothing. While he was living out East he complained about the road conditions and traffic and the only real option was to ride on dirt roads, hearing that I suggested he look into Rivendell that's about the time I drank the kool-Aid and bought my AHH. So leading up to this Saturday he offers to loan me a skinny tired bike I said thank you very much I'll stick with my 42 mm's All the old suspects showed up and some new faces I showed up with the AHH in my comfortable clothing, bandanna, tennis shoes and low saddle long flap saddle bag...off we rolled on a climby 30 mile loop and I gotta say I kept up only falling off the back on descents but up top with no problem...later while having lunch the topic of clip-less pedals came up and they were all surprised I was not using them (while on the ride one of them fell down and was unable to disengage from the pedal and gave up some skin to the asphalt Gods) and how efficient I was. I got to spread the Riv gospel a bit. What I took away from this experience is that while on the ride I barely had time to take a picture, I kept looking at all the amazing dirt roads we were passing and that's where I wanted to ride. The area was bursting with racer types no smiles just grimaces...yeah I'm not going back! I may ride a road bike with 28 mm tires but won't be wearing clingy aero wear. ~Hugh On Sunday, November 17, 2013 6:21:23 PM UTC-8, Mike wrote: I was getting ready for today's ride and trying to decide between getting kitted up in bibs, jersey, clipless pedals or my standard rambling kit--Sambas, Chrome knickers, wool undershirt and t-shirt. I just couldn't get excited about the bibs and all that. Over the past year I've pretty much done less than 5 rides in a traditional kit. I'm not anti clipless pedals and clingy cycling clothes. My riding today is more like a hike rather than a trail run so I just don't see a need for the bibs and all the other stuff. It's so much more comfortable in my rambling kit. I even did multiple 80+ mile rides in this kit. And as for my bikes... I've been preferring my LHT to my Hilsen as the LHT is even more Riv'ed out than my Hilsen. just a tad more comfy and stable. Although contrary to Grant's preferences, I prefer the one pannier for holding my lock, yams (the new corn dog), book, layers, tools, etc. On today's ride I couldn't help but think, have I gone past the point of no return? Images from today's ride: http://www.flickr.com/ photos/41335973@N00/sets/72157637785515593/ --mike -- You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this topic, visit https://groups.google.com/d/topic/rbw-owners-bunch/PpxcDPxBsyk/unsubscribe . To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Once you go Riv can you ever go back?
Mike, Good to know others can ride that distance without padded shorts. No VP's I went with the Grip Kings and I like them, my wife has the VP's on her Betty and I can see why you like em. Sorry to hear you Mom is battling an illness, hope she recovers quickly. Best, ~Hugh On Mon, Nov 18, 2013 at 10:18 AM, Mike mjawn...@gmail.com wrote: Hey Hugh, I've ton many 80+ mile days in MUSA and Chrome shorts with ExOfficio underwear with no issues. Oh, and the saddle is a B17. I think body type and position can have a lot to do with what works. It sounds like you've also gone to platform pedals? Hope you're using the VPs, I love mine. And Mike W., I'll likely put the Albas on my Hilsen. While I hate dealin with re-cabling the brakes and shifters, it's really not that hard. Finding the time between attending to my newborn daughter and my mom's illness is really the barrier. Hell, I haven't even sat down to look at the new Riv catalog. There's just not enough time. It sure was great to get out for a 4hr ride yesterday with everything that's been going on. After Feb I should be able to get out biweekly for a ride in the 4 to 5hr range along with shorter weekly rambles. --mike -- You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this topic, visit https://groups.google.com/d/topic/rbw-owners-bunch/PpxcDPxBsyk/unsubscribe . To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Once you go Riv can you ever go back?
Hugh, the Grip Kings with spikes work pretty well. But if you find yourself needing more gription when riding off-road, go with the VPs. I'm glad you're experiencing your Hilsen from platform pedals. My very first ride on my Hilsen, home from the bike shop, was on Grip Kings and it felt so odd. I quickly swapped them out for SPDs and didn't ride it with platforms until like 2 years later. Now they really seem like the best choice for that bike. I wonder if I'll feel the same way about the Alba bars when I finally try them on the Hilsen. Thanks for the well wishes with my mom, sadly my mom has stage IV lung cancer and is on hospice. She's doing well today. We're just taking it a day at a time. --mike -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Once you go Riv can you ever go back?
Mike, Sorry to hear that. At that point you just cherish each day...one of our neighbors has cancer which started as breast cancer and has now moved to her bones, she just keeps doing radiation and knows it's the kind that will never go away. I brought she and her husband some food today. Very nice people. I'll keep you and your Mom in my thoughts. Best, ~Hugh On Tue, Nov 19, 2013 at 9:07 PM, Mike mjawn...@gmail.com wrote: Hugh, the Grip Kings with spikes work pretty well. But if you find yourself needing more gription when riding off-road, go with the VPs. I'm glad you're experiencing your Hilsen from platform pedals. My very first ride on my Hilsen, home from the bike shop, was on Grip Kings and it felt so odd. I quickly swapped them out for SPDs and didn't ride it with platforms until like 2 years later. Now they really seem like the best choice for that bike. I wonder if I'll feel the same way about the Alba bars when I finally try them on the Hilsen. Thanks for the well wishes with my mom, sadly my mom has stage IV lung cancer and is on hospice. She's doing well today. We're just taking it a day at a time. --mike -- You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this topic, visit https://groups.google.com/d/topic/rbw-owners-bunch/PpxcDPxBsyk/unsubscribe . To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Once you go Riv can you ever go back?
Mike, I have some Ibex shirts and I like them okay...I'm sure I'll wear them now that the weather is cooling down some, I wish I bought a size larger though. So far I have found that my Patagucci long sleeve gone again shirt is ideal it dries super quick ventilates awesome and I can cover up my arms either when it's cool or the sun is too intense. http://www.patagonia.com/us/product/mens-long-sleeved-gone-again-shirt?p=54110-0 I have two MUSA wool t shirts that I find great either by them selves or as a base layer. I also have a long sleeve wool jersey but down here in SoCal it always feels overkill other then early Spring. On miles above thirty I still need to experiment with saddle comfort as I'm just wearing the wool boxer briefs and am really comfortable, this past weekend I felt I could do fifty with no problems on a spirited ride. I think it all comes down to what works for the individual. As for me I'm still working it out, in the Spring I plan on picking up another LS shirt like the gone again just to rotate. Best, ~Hugh On Mon, Nov 18, 2013 at 8:34 AM, Mike Schiller mikeybi...@rocketmail.comwrote: There is a middle ground. There are some nicely fitting wool shorts and jerseys that are made. A little looser fit and no flashy ads or colors. I prefer this kind of gear for more strenuous rides. Ibex, Ground Effect and others make some good quality stuff, made in the US or from the wool source. On tour, or on more casual rides, some baggies and a looser shirt are great for the mixed social situations and more relaxed pace. ~mike Carlsbad, Ca -- You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this topic, visit https://groups.google.com/d/topic/rbw-owners-bunch/PpxcDPxBsyk/unsubscribe . To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Once you go Riv can you ever go back?
Hey Hugh, I've ton many 80+ mile days in MUSA and Chrome shorts with ExOfficio underwear with no issues. Oh, and the saddle is a B17. I think body type and position can have a lot to do with what works. It sounds like you've also gone to platform pedals? Hope you're using the VPs, I love mine. And Mike W., I'll likely put the Albas on my Hilsen. While I hate dealin with re-cabling the brakes and shifters, it's really not that hard. Finding the time between attending to my newborn daughter and my mom's illness is really the barrier. Hell, I haven't even sat down to look at the new Riv catalog. There's just not enough time. It sure was great to get out for a 4hr ride yesterday with everything that's been going on. After Feb I should be able to get out biweekly for a ride in the 4 to 5hr range along with shorter weekly rambles. --mike -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.