Re: [RBW] anybody use a Berthoud Decaleur?

2010-11-15 Thread Steve Palincsar
On Mon, 2010-11-15 at 14:07 -0800, William wrote:
 I have a buddy who makes really nice handlebar bags.  Pretty similar
 to Ostrich.  I picked up a couple from him, and despite the cost of
 the bags and the front rack, for some strange psychological reason I
 couldn't talk myself into pulling the trigger on a decaleuruntil
 now.  I just got in a very slick Gilles Berthoud decaleur.  I'm going
 to set it up on my Hilsen as soon as I can get around to it.  I was
 surprised that there does not appear to be a single youtube how-to
 video with 'decaleur' as a tag, so maybe I'll video my work, too.
 
 Are there any warnings to setting up a Berthoud decaleur?

None I know of, other than be sure you've got the right one in the right
size.  Many people use a paper clip as a cotter pin, but they don't last
long in my experience.  A Clippiola circular paperclip, on the other
hand, works great and lasts forever.

You need an awl to make the holes in the leather strip in the back.
I've used the awl/glass picker tool on my Swiss Army Knife to do that.



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Re: [RBW] anybody use a Berthoud Decaleur?

2010-11-15 Thread Clayton Scott
I use one. The only thing I hated was the paper clip that holds the rod in.
I use a rubber O-ring inbetween the center tube one the tube attached to the
bag that is on the bent end (if that makes sense). Eliminates rattle and
pape rclip is no longer needed.

On Mon, Nov 15, 2010 at 2:07 PM, William tapebu...@gmail.com wrote:

 I have a buddy who makes really nice handlebar bags.  Pretty similar
 to Ostrich.  I picked up a couple from him, and despite the cost of
 the bags and the front rack, for some strange psychological reason I
 couldn't talk myself into pulling the trigger on a decaleuruntil
 now.  I just got in a very slick Gilles Berthoud decaleur.  I'm going
 to set it up on my Hilsen as soon as I can get around to it.  I was
 surprised that there does not appear to be a single youtube how-to
 video with 'decaleur' as a tag, so maybe I'll video my work, too.

 Are there any warnings to setting up a Berthoud decaleur?

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Re: [RBW] anybody use a Berthoud Decaleur?

2010-11-15 Thread Clayton Scott
Let's try this again (hit send too soon).

I use one. The only thing I hated was the paper clip that holds the rod in.
Instead I use a rubber O-ring between the center tube attached to
contraption bolted to stem and the tube attached to the bag that is closest
to the bent end of the rod (if that makes sense). That way I can remove the
rod and the bag without having to remove the O-ring.  Eliminates rattle and
paper clip is no longer needed.

On Mon, Nov 15, 2010 at 2:11 PM, Clayton Scott clayton...@gmail.com wrote:

 I use one. The only thing I hated was the paper clip that holds the rod in.
 I use a rubber O-ring inbetween the center tube one the tube attached to the
 bag that is on the bent end (if that makes sense). Eliminates rattle and
 pape rclip is no longer needed.


 On Mon, Nov 15, 2010 at 2:07 PM, William tapebu...@gmail.com wrote:

 I have a buddy who makes really nice handlebar bags.  Pretty similar
 to Ostrich.  I picked up a couple from him, and despite the cost of
 the bags and the front rack, for some strange psychological reason I
 couldn't talk myself into pulling the trigger on a decaleuruntil
 now.  I just got in a very slick Gilles Berthoud decaleur.  I'm going
 to set it up on my Hilsen as soon as I can get around to it.  I was
 surprised that there does not appear to be a single youtube how-to
 video with 'decaleur' as a tag, so maybe I'll video my work, too.

 Are there any warnings to setting up a Berthoud decaleur?

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Re: [RBW] anybody use a Berthoud Decaleur?

2010-11-15 Thread Steve Palincsar
On Mon, 2010-11-15 at 14:16 -0800, Clayton Scott wrote:
 Let's try this again (hit send too soon).
 
 
 I use one. The only thing I hated was the paper clip that holds the
 rod in.
 Instead I use a rubber O-ring between the center tube attached to
 contraption bolted to stem and the tube attached to the bag that is
 closest to the bent end of the rod (if that makes sense). That way I
 can remove the rod and the bag without having to remove the O-ring.
 Eliminates rattle and paper clip is no longer needed.

A circular Clippiola paper clip does the same thing.




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Re: [RBW] anybody use a Berthoud Decaleur?

2010-11-15 Thread Clayton Scott
Except you still need to remove the clip to remove the bag.
The O-ring does not need to be removed and on top of that eliminates rattle
of rod in tubes.
(Of course maybe the cippiola clip helps with rattle too, not sure about
that. Never tried)





On Mon, Nov 15, 2010 at 2:36 PM, Steve Palincsar palin...@his.com wrote:

 On Mon, 2010-11-15 at 14:16 -0800, Clayton Scott wrote:
  Let's try this again (hit send too soon).
 
 
  I use one. The only thing I hated was the paper clip that holds the
  rod in.
  Instead I use a rubber O-ring between the center tube attached to
  contraption bolted to stem and the tube attached to the bag that is
  closest to the bent end of the rod (if that makes sense). That way I
  can remove the rod and the bag without having to remove the O-ring.
  Eliminates rattle and paper clip is no longer needed.

 A circular Clippiola paper clip does the same thing.




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Re: [RBW] anybody use a Berthoud Decaleur?

2010-11-15 Thread Clayton Scott
Here is picture of O-ring setup:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/claytonesseff/4780906703/in/set-72157624467335916/

That should explain what I was trying to say.



On Mon, Nov 15, 2010 at 2:47 PM, Clayton Scott clayton...@gmail.com wrote:

 Except you still need to remove the clip to remove the bag.
 The O-ring does not need to be removed and on top of that eliminates rattle
 of rod in tubes.
 (Of course maybe the cippiola clip helps with rattle too, not sure about
 that. Never tried)





 On Mon, Nov 15, 2010 at 2:36 PM, Steve Palincsar palin...@his.com wrote:

 On Mon, 2010-11-15 at 14:16 -0800, Clayton Scott wrote:
  Let's try this again (hit send too soon).
 
 
  I use one. The only thing I hated was the paper clip that holds the
  rod in.
  Instead I use a rubber O-ring between the center tube attached to
  contraption bolted to stem and the tube attached to the bag that is
  closest to the bent end of the rod (if that makes sense). That way I
  can remove the rod and the bag without having to remove the O-ring.
  Eliminates rattle and paper clip is no longer needed.

 A circular Clippiola paper clip does the same thing.




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Re: [RBW] anybody use a Berthoud Decaleur?

2010-11-15 Thread Steve Palincsar
On Mon, 2010-11-15 at 14:49 -0800, Clayton Scott wrote:
 Here is picture of O-ring setup: 
 
 
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/claytonesseff/4780906703/in/set-72157624467335916/
 
 
 That should explain what I was trying to say.

For those unfamiliar with the Berthoud decaleur, it should be pointed
out, what's show here is a very special custom setup, not the standard
decaleur.  Who made that lovely custom stem, anyway, Tony Don't Fear
the Pear?




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Re: [RBW] anybody use a Berthoud Decaleur?

2010-11-15 Thread Clayton Scott
Yes, it was Tony Pereira. Thanks for the compliments.

And yes, it is a modified version that ommits the crossbar that bolts onto
the stem.
Bag to decaleur attachment is the same.



On Mon, Nov 15, 2010 at 2:52 PM, Steve Palincsar palin...@his.com wrote:

 On Mon, 2010-11-15 at 14:49 -0800, Clayton Scott wrote:
  Here is picture of O-ring setup:
 
 
 
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/claytonesseff/4780906703/in/set-72157624467335916/
 
 
  That should explain what I was trying to say.

 For those unfamiliar with the Berthoud decaleur, it should be pointed
 out, what's show here is a very special custom setup, not the standard
 decaleur.  Who made that lovely custom stem, anyway, Tony Don't Fear
 the Pear?




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