[TANKS] Re: Intro and first Questions
Welcome! Ditto what everyone else has already said. I would also go for the Jagdtiger. MUCH simpler. No turret to mess around with. A Jagdpanther would also be nice! You may consider the C6C as a first controller. Very simple and quite inexpensive. Good luck! Paul H. - Original Message - From: To: "R/C Tank Combat" Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2008 1:49 PM Subject: [TANKS] Intro and first Questions > > Good Day to you all, I have been a long time lurker and have finally > taken the first step on to what seems an awesome path of tank building > and simulated warfare. > First I have never built an RC anything, but have always wanted to. I > am an Architectural Modeler, in the Dallas Fort Worth area so the > plans and the cad work will not be a problem. > > But as to finding parts, and what I am looking for, how do I program > and set up the remote controller and such? > I know these are very broad questions and they will become more > focused as time goes on. > > I hope to build a Tiger I or a Jagdtiger. > Engine - No clue > Tracks - The treadmill method from the t-34 wip on the site > Suspension - still haven't figured that out but was hoping to create > shocks for it > Chassis ply wood, with fiber glass turret (maybe) > Right now i am hoping to just get a mobile tank.(gun work could come > later) > > If you have any ideas or comments or know a better tank that would be > suited for someone beginning this hobby feel free to let me know. > > > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You are currently subscribed to the "R/C Tank Combat" group. To post a message, send email to rctankcombat@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe, send email to rctankcombat-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com Visit the group at http://groups.google.com/group/rctankcombat -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[TANKS] Re: Intro and first Questions
I can say for a fact that a turretless build like my Sturmtiger has TONS of room. Nice on a first build. I tried a smallish tank on my first build attempt...it wound up in the fireplace... ;) BTW, www.surpluscenter.com has tons of sprockets and such. I buy from them all the time as well as many on the list. Derek On Thu, Dec 11, 2008 at 7:05 PM, Thomas Lum wrote: > > As far as RC stuff, that is the last thing to worry about literally, > first concerns is motors because that will dictate your hull size, > then tracks because that will dictate wheel and sprockets. Others may > have a different opinion. > Tom > On Dec 11, 2008, at 7:15 PM, Cold comfort wrote: > >> >> Welcome to the group. I too would go with the Jagdtiger. Straight >> lines, no turret >> will make for a much faster build time and a lot easier on the head >> and pocket book. >> Best of all it looks really cool. Since you wont have a turret you >> will want 0 radius 360 >> turning capablilty, and porportional speed control would help too, but >> thats all easily >> upgradeable later as well. Good luck, the building part is more than >> half the fun, >> but sometimes it wont feel that way. >> Look forward to hearing about your progress. >> Greg >> >> On Dec 11, 2:49 pm, "tank.hunte...@gmail.com" >> wrote: >>> Good Day to you all, I have been a long time lurker and have finally >>> taken the first step on to what seems an awesome path of tank >>> building >>> and simulated warfare. >>> First I have never built an RC anything, but have always wanted to. I >>> am an Architectural Modeler, in the Dallas Fort Worth area so the >>> plans and the cad work will not be a problem. >>> >>> But as to finding parts, and what I am looking for, how do I program >>> and set up the remote controller and such? >>> I know these are very broad questions and they will become more >>> focused as time goes on. >>> >>> I hope to build a Tiger I or a Jagdtiger. >>> Engine - No clue >>> Tracks - The treadmill method from the t-34 wip on the site >>> Suspension - still haven't figured that out but was hoping to create >>> shocks for it >>> Chassis ply wood, with fiber glass turret (maybe) >>> Right now i am hoping to just get a mobile tank.(gun work could come >>> later) >>> >>> If you have any ideas or comments or know a better tank that would be >>> suited for someone beginning this hobby feel free to let me know. >> > > > > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You are currently subscribed to the "R/C Tank Combat" group. To post a message, send email to rctankcombat@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe, send email to rctankcombat-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com Visit the group at http://groups.google.com/group/rctankcombat -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[TANKS] Re: Intro and first Questions
As far as RC stuff, that is the last thing to worry about literally, first concerns is motors because that will dictate your hull size, then tracks because that will dictate wheel and sprockets. Others may have a different opinion. Tom On Dec 11, 2008, at 7:15 PM, Cold comfort wrote: > > Welcome to the group. I too would go with the Jagdtiger. Straight > lines, no turret > will make for a much faster build time and a lot easier on the head > and pocket book. > Best of all it looks really cool. Since you wont have a turret you > will want 0 radius 360 > turning capablilty, and porportional speed control would help too, but > thats all easily > upgradeable later as well. Good luck, the building part is more than > half the fun, > but sometimes it wont feel that way. > Look forward to hearing about your progress. > Greg > > On Dec 11, 2:49 pm, "tank.hunte...@gmail.com" > wrote: >> Good Day to you all, I have been a long time lurker and have finally >> taken the first step on to what seems an awesome path of tank >> building >> and simulated warfare. >> First I have never built an RC anything, but have always wanted to. I >> am an Architectural Modeler, in the Dallas Fort Worth area so the >> plans and the cad work will not be a problem. >> >> But as to finding parts, and what I am looking for, how do I program >> and set up the remote controller and such? >> I know these are very broad questions and they will become more >> focused as time goes on. >> >> I hope to build a Tiger I or a Jagdtiger. >> Engine - No clue >> Tracks - The treadmill method from the t-34 wip on the site >> Suspension - still haven't figured that out but was hoping to create >> shocks for it >> Chassis ply wood, with fiber glass turret (maybe) >> Right now i am hoping to just get a mobile tank.(gun work could come >> later) >> >> If you have any ideas or comments or know a better tank that would be >> suited for someone beginning this hobby feel free to let me know. > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You are currently subscribed to the "R/C Tank Combat" group. To post a message, send email to rctankcombat@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe, send email to rctankcombat-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com Visit the group at http://groups.google.com/group/rctankcombat -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[TANKS] Re: Intro and first Questions
Welcome to the group. I too would go with the Jagdtiger. Straight lines, no turret will make for a much faster build time and a lot easier on the head and pocket book. Best of all it looks really cool. Since you wont have a turret you will want 0 radius 360 turning capablilty, and porportional speed control would help too, but thats all easily upgradeable later as well. Good luck, the building part is more than half the fun, but sometimes it wont feel that way. Look forward to hearing about your progress. Greg On Dec 11, 2:49 pm, "tank.hunte...@gmail.com" wrote: > Good Day to you all, I have been a long time lurker and have finally > taken the first step on to what seems an awesome path of tank building > and simulated warfare. > First I have never built an RC anything, but have always wanted to. I > am an Architectural Modeler, in the Dallas Fort Worth area so the > plans and the cad work will not be a problem. > > But as to finding parts, and what I am looking for, how do I program > and set up the remote controller and such? > I know these are very broad questions and they will become more > focused as time goes on. > > I hope to build a Tiger I or a Jagdtiger. > Engine - No clue > Tracks - The treadmill method from the t-34 wip on the site > Suspension - still haven't figured that out but was hoping to create > shocks for it > Chassis ply wood, with fiber glass turret (maybe) > Right now i am hoping to just get a mobile tank.(gun work could come > later) > > If you have any ideas or comments or know a better tank that would be > suited for someone beginning this hobby feel free to let me know. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You are currently subscribed to the "R/C Tank Combat" group. To post a message, send email to rctankcombat@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe, send email to rctankcombat-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com Visit the group at http://groups.google.com/group/rctankcombat -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[TANKS] Re: Intro and first Questions
Welcome to the hobby. I've got drawings of the Tiger1 scaled to the three foot rule if your interested. Their not that detailed but will get you started. Tank T047 (http://rctankcombat.com/tanks/T047/) was built from them. With a little modification they could be the basis for the JagdTiger. I might clean them up and post them to the files section soon. Steve Tyng On Dec 11, 1:49 pm, "tank.hunte...@gmail.com" wrote: > Good Day to you all, I have been a long time lurker and have finally > taken the first step on to what seems an awesome path of tank building > and simulated warfare. > First I have never built an RC anything, but have always wanted to. I > am an Architectural Modeler, in the Dallas Fort Worth area so the > plans and the cad work will not be a problem. > > But as to finding parts, and what I am looking for, how do I program > and set up the remote controller and such? > I know these are very broad questions and they will become more > focused as time goes on. > > I hope to build a Tiger I or a Jagdtiger. > Engine - No clue > Tracks - The treadmill method from the t-34 wip on the site > Suspension - still haven't figured that out but was hoping to create > shocks for it > Chassis ply wood, with fiber glass turret (maybe) > Right now i am hoping to just get a mobile tank.(gun work could come > later) > > If you have any ideas or comments or know a better tank that would be > suited for someone beginning this hobby feel free to let me know. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You are currently subscribed to the "R/C Tank Combat" group. To post a message, send email to rctankcombat@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe, send email to rctankcombat-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com Visit the group at http://groups.google.com/group/rctankcombat -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[TANKS] Re: Drive Cog Patterns
I've uploaded the design of my Cromwell's drive sprocket. Check out TTS Sprocket.pdf in the files section. Steve Tyng On Dec 9, 11:14 pm, "Chrysanthos Kanellopoulos" wrote: > Glad to hear. It was ony a few minute break at work here. > Chrys > > > > - Original Message - > From: "Joker" > To: "R/C Tank Combat" > Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2008 11:17 PM > Subject: [TANKS] Re: Drive Cog Patterns > > > Thanks. This was great. I took the photo, scalled it, inverted the > > colors, and i'm using it as the template. Thanks again. > > > On Dec 8, 4:41 am, "Chrysanthos Kanellopoulos" > > wrote: > > > The diameter of the inner circle (green) could be 0.0873, with the clear > > > distance between the teeth 0.0350 = 1 3/8". That way, the pads fit > between > > > the teeth. > > > The width of the tooth ~ 0.064 or 0.0638 m. or 1/4" wide. > > > The diameter of the outer circle, on the edge of the teeth would then be > > > 0.0993 m. = 3,901 " > > > I hope that helps and it is not more confusing! > > > > Chrys > > > > JOkers sprocket7.3.jpg > > > 123KViewDownload > > > > JOkers sprocket7.4.jpg > > > 66KViewDownload > > > __ NOD32 3434 (20080911) Information __ > > > This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. > >http://www.eset.com > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You are currently subscribed to the "R/C Tank Combat" group. To post a message, send email to rctankcombat@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe, send email to rctankcombat-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com Visit the group at http://groups.google.com/group/rctankcombat -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[TANKS] Re: Intro and first Questions
A good place to start is the website with the FAQ and how-to articles. My advice would to find a tank you love because you are going to be seeing a lot of it! Both of your picks are great, I love the Jagdtiger. Just make sure you make good use of search on both the old site and the google group as well. Winter is the perfect time to get started! Tom On Dec 11, 2008, at 1:49 PM, tank.hunte...@gmail.com wrote: > > Good Day to you all, I have been a long time lurker and have finally > taken the first step on to what seems an awesome path of tank building > and simulated warfare. > First I have never built an RC anything, but have always wanted to. I > am an Architectural Modeler, in the Dallas Fort Worth area so the > plans and the cad work will not be a problem. > > But as to finding parts, and what I am looking for, how do I program > and set up the remote controller and such? > I know these are very broad questions and they will become more > focused as time goes on. > > I hope to build a Tiger I or a Jagdtiger. > Engine - No clue > Tracks - The treadmill method from the t-34 wip on the site > Suspension - still haven't figured that out but was hoping to create > shocks for it > Chassis ply wood, with fiber glass turret (maybe) > Right now i am hoping to just get a mobile tank.(gun work could come > later) > > If you have any ideas or comments or know a better tank that would be > suited for someone beginning this hobby feel free to let me know. > > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You are currently subscribed to the "R/C Tank Combat" group. To post a message, send email to rctankcombat@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe, send email to rctankcombat-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com Visit the group at http://groups.google.com/group/rctankcombat -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[TANKS] Re: Intro and first Questions
Hello, Build the jagdtiger for sure! mean looking tank. As for the tracks, the TTS (treadmill) is the way to go, and even better again is a sprocket driven TTS. Im assuming drawing up a simple sprocket and making the parts will be no problem for an Architectural Modeler! For motors I agree with Doug, it will be hard to find a nicer motor at that price. Programming the controllers is the least of your worries, 9/10 times they come with step by step detailed instructions, simply work through it and if you get stuck you can always ask the group. Have a look around www.mcmaster.com most if not every part needed to build the mechanical workings of a tank, also look at www.robotmarketplace.com, good site for motors, controllers, all that jazz. Have a look at my tank www.rctankcombat.com/tanks/T063 , the suspension I used is quite simple, all the parts are quite cheap too. Chris. b On Dec 12, 5:51 am, "Doug Conn" wrote: > Welcome ! > > Many first-timers build a Tiger 1 (I did). I think it's a fine choice. A > Jagdtiger would be a good choice, too. Nice and large with no turret. Plus, > it's a vehicle the hobby is lacking. > > For motors, you should at least consider the M01s offered by Joe > athttp://www.anvilus.com/motor01.html. They are reasonably priced and already > have gearing. > > - Doug > > > > -Original Message- > From: rctankcombat@googlegroups.com [mailto:rctankcom...@googlegroups.com] > > On Behalf Of tank.hunte...@gmail.com > Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2008 1:50 PM > To: R/C Tank Combat > Subject: [TANKS] Intro and first Questions > > Good Day to you all, I have been a long time lurker and have finally > taken the first step on to what seems an awesome path of tank building > and simulated warfare. > First I have never built an RC anything, but have always wanted to. I > am an Architectural Modeler, in the Dallas Fort Worth area so the > plans and the cad work will not be a problem. > > But as to finding parts, and what I am looking for, how do I program > and set up the remote controller and such? > I know these are very broad questions and they will become more > focused as time goes on. > > I hope to build a Tiger I or a Jagdtiger. > Engine - No clue > Tracks - The treadmill method from the t-34 wip on the site > Suspension - still haven't figured that out but was hoping to create > shocks for it > Chassis ply wood, with fiber glass turret (maybe) > Right now i am hoping to just get a mobile tank.(gun work could come > later) > > If you have any ideas or comments or know a better tank that would be > suited for someone beginning this hobby feel free to let me know.- Hide > quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You are currently subscribed to the "R/C Tank Combat" group. To post a message, send email to rctankcombat@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe, send email to rctankcombat-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com Visit the group at http://groups.google.com/group/rctankcombat -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[TANKS] Re: Intro and first Questions
Welcome ! Many first-timers build a Tiger 1 (I did). I think it's a fine choice. A Jagdtiger would be a good choice, too. Nice and large with no turret. Plus, it's a vehicle the hobby is lacking. For motors, you should at least consider the M01s offered by Joe at http://www.anvilus.com/motor01.html. They are reasonably priced and already have gearing. - Doug -Original Message- From: rctankcombat@googlegroups.com [mailto:rctankcom...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of tank.hunte...@gmail.com Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2008 1:50 PM To: R/C Tank Combat Subject: [TANKS] Intro and first Questions Good Day to you all, I have been a long time lurker and have finally taken the first step on to what seems an awesome path of tank building and simulated warfare. First I have never built an RC anything, but have always wanted to. I am an Architectural Modeler, in the Dallas Fort Worth area so the plans and the cad work will not be a problem. But as to finding parts, and what I am looking for, how do I program and set up the remote controller and such? I know these are very broad questions and they will become more focused as time goes on. I hope to build a Tiger I or a Jagdtiger. Engine - No clue Tracks - The treadmill method from the t-34 wip on the site Suspension - still haven't figured that out but was hoping to create shocks for it Chassis ply wood, with fiber glass turret (maybe) Right now i am hoping to just get a mobile tank.(gun work could come later) If you have any ideas or comments or know a better tank that would be suited for someone beginning this hobby feel free to let me know. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You are currently subscribed to the "R/C Tank Combat" group. To post a message, send email to rctankcombat@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe, send email to rctankcombat-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com Visit the group at http://groups.google.com/group/rctankcombat -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[TANKS] Re: HUMVEE's
Here is a 1/6th humvee, the military one. The body looks accurate, but it still doesn't look like the real thing because the body is too high above the wheels. The tires aren't accurate either, but they probably have better traction than scale tires. http://store.cubeberry.com/servlet/Detail?no=52 --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You are currently subscribed to the "R/C Tank Combat" group. To post a message, send email to rctankcombat@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe, send email to rctankcombat-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com Visit the group at http://groups.google.com/group/rctankcombat -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[TANKS] Re: HUMVEE's
Good to know. The wattage of two18 V motors will still be 4 times larger, as teh wattage is four times larger when you double the Voltage. Is that right? Chrys - Original Message - From: "Derek Engelhaupt" To: Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2008 8:54 PM Subject: [TANKS] Re: HUMVEE's > > Actually the 21st Century Hummer runs on (2) motors, one for each differential. > > Derek > > On Thu, Dec 11, 2008 at 9:18 AM, Chrysanthos Kanellopoulos > wrote: > > > > The specifications make me more optimistic about my Daimler. The 21st C. > > HUmvee weighs 8.8 lbs and runs on one 9.6 V motor. My Daimler is 28 lbs > > heavy and runs on two 18 Volt motors. The Wattage is 4 times larger for a > > weight somewhat less than 4 times the HUmvee's weight. > > That's as far as my science goes by analogy > > Chrys > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > __ NOD32 3434 (20080911) Information __ > > This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. > http://www.eset.com > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You are currently subscribed to the "R/C Tank Combat" group. To post a message, send email to rctankcombat@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe, send email to rctankcombat-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com Visit the group at http://groups.google.com/group/rctankcombat -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[TANKS] Intro and first Questions
Good Day to you all, I have been a long time lurker and have finally taken the first step on to what seems an awesome path of tank building and simulated warfare. First I have never built an RC anything, but have always wanted to. I am an Architectural Modeler, in the Dallas Fort Worth area so the plans and the cad work will not be a problem. But as to finding parts, and what I am looking for, how do I program and set up the remote controller and such? I know these are very broad questions and they will become more focused as time goes on. I hope to build a Tiger I or a Jagdtiger. Engine - No clue Tracks - The treadmill method from the t-34 wip on the site Suspension - still haven't figured that out but was hoping to create shocks for it Chassis ply wood, with fiber glass turret (maybe) Right now i am hoping to just get a mobile tank.(gun work could come later) If you have any ideas or comments or know a better tank that would be suited for someone beginning this hobby feel free to let me know. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You are currently subscribed to the "R/C Tank Combat" group. To post a message, send email to rctankcombat@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe, send email to rctankcombat-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com Visit the group at http://groups.google.com/group/rctankcombat -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[TANKS] Re: HUMVEE's
Actually the 21st Century Hummer runs on (2) motors, one for each differential. Derek On Thu, Dec 11, 2008 at 9:18 AM, Chrysanthos Kanellopoulos wrote: > > The specifications make me more optimistic about my Daimler. The 21st C. > HUmvee weighs 8.8 lbs and runs on one 9.6 V motor. My Daimler is 28 lbs > heavy and runs on two 18 Volt motors. The Wattage is 4 times larger for a > weight somewhat less than 4 times the HUmvee's weight. > That's as far as my science goes by analogy > Chrys > > > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You are currently subscribed to the "R/C Tank Combat" group. To post a message, send email to rctankcombat@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe, send email to rctankcombat-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com Visit the group at http://groups.google.com/group/rctankcombat -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[TANKS] Re: HUMVEE's
The specifications make me more optimistic about my Daimler. The 21st C. HUmvee weighs 8.8 lbs and runs on one 9.6 V motor. My Daimler is 28 lbs heavy and runs on two 18 Volt motors. The Wattage is 4 times larger for a weight somewhat less than 4 times the HUmvee's weight. That's as far as my science goes by analogy Chrys --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You are currently subscribed to the "R/C Tank Combat" group. To post a message, send email to rctankcombat@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit the group at http://groups.google.com/group/rctankcombat -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[TANKS] Re: Interesting motor on Ebay
I have two of these (bought them for testing). I'll let them go for $30 for the pair plus shipping. Steve Tyng On Dec 11, 5:39 am, "Chris. b" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Fantastic motor, If I had the cash I would buy all 5! I have used > these in my stug which has oodles of torque and heaps of speed. See > attachedhttp://au.youtube.com/watch?v=mvWlNJoCWhg(the sound is out a > bit) > > Also know as "EV-X" motors, stats here > (http://www.rctankcombat.com/archive/2005-02/msg00156.html > ) show they are very comperable to EV-W's > > Chris. b > > On Dec 11, 4:09 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > being a fan motor it may not have the torque as a scooter motor nor be > > reversible > > > Chris, > > _Odyssey Slipways_ (http://hometown.aol.com/odysseyslipways/index.html) > > **Make your life easier with all your friends, email, and > > favorite sites in one place. Try it now. > > (http://www.aol.com/?optin=new-dp&icid=aolcom40vanity&ncid=emlcntaolco...) > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You are currently subscribed to the "R/C Tank Combat" group. To post a message, send email to rctankcombat@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit the group at http://groups.google.com/group/rctankcombat -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[TANKS] Re: HUMVEE's
Mine look like this one: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8f9tqf04gXg Derek On Thu, Dec 11, 2008 at 12:18 AM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > In a message dated 12/11/2008 1:11:45 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > are they the big ones with the lights and stuff? > > Chris, > Odyssey Slipways > > never mind, i just got to reading all the emails on this and saw that it is > the same one > > Chris, > Odyssey Slipways > > > > Make your life easier with all your friends, email, and favorite sites in > one place. Try it now. > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You are currently subscribed to the "R/C Tank Combat" group. To post a message, send email to rctankcombat@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit the group at http://groups.google.com/group/rctankcombat -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[TANKS] Re: Interesting motor on Ebay
Fantastic motor, If I had the cash I would buy all 5! I have used these in my stug which has oodles of torque and heaps of speed. See attached http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=mvWlNJoCWhg (the sound is out a bit) Also know as "EV-X" motors, stats here ( http://www.rctankcombat.com/archive/2005-02/msg00156.html ) show they are very comperable to EV-W's Chris. b On Dec 11, 4:09 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > being a fan motor it may not have the torque as a scooter motor nor be > reversible > > Chris, > _Odyssey Slipways_ (http://hometown.aol.com/odysseyslipways/index.html) > **Make your life easier with all your friends, email, and > favorite sites in one place. Try it now. > (http://www.aol.com/?optin=new-dp&icid=aolcom40vanity&ncid=emlcntaolco...) --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You are currently subscribed to the "R/C Tank Combat" group. To post a message, send email to rctankcombat@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit the group at http://groups.google.com/group/rctankcombat -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
