[TANKS] Re: Check out TANK HUNTER plans model plans electric powered - eBay (item 1901934

2008-12-14 Thread Steve Tyng

Though it resembles a JagdPanther it is not a scale version of it.
For instance the JagdPanther does not have return idlers.  Also, the
tracks as depicted are to thin.

As long as it met the three foot rule I'd shoot at it!

Steve Tyng




On Dec 13, 11:26 pm, odysseyslipw...@aol.com wrote:
 _Click  here: TANK HUNTER plans model plans electric powered - eBay (item
 190193439949  end time Dec-19-08 09:33:57 PST)_
 (http://cgi.ebay.com/TANK-HUNTER-plans-model-plans-electric-powered_W0...
 efaultDomain_0?_trksid=p3286.m20.l1116)  

 since i don't have every book covering all German tanks, does anyone know  
 how close these drawings might be for this tank? are the amount of road 
 wheels  
 correct? their placement? hull lay out?

 would have been too easy if he had drawings for the Elephant or Stug

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[TANKS] Re: rotomolded plastic Panther hull and turret

2008-12-14 Thread Steve Tyng

Rotomolding your own parts doesn't seem to be beyond the resourceful
do-it-yourselfer.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t6ISPfo6U1A
http://www.bjbenterprises.com/pdf/TC-850.pdf
http://www.solsylva.com/cnc/rotomolder.shtml

Steve Tyng



On Dec 12, 8:48 pm, Joe Sommer anvil...@comcast.net wrote:
 The rotomolded plastic Panther arrived today from
 Tim Loeb at Plastic Panzershttp://www.plasticpanzers.8k.com/

 It is awesome.

 While it is too big for DW960 drill motors, it is perfect
 for an aluminum hull with M01 motors.

 I will post a couple photos before I begin hacking into it.

 Joe
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[TANKS] Re: rotomolded plastic Panther hull and turret

2008-12-14 Thread Michael Clark
I've seen several that have been made for art projects and custom toys. It
doesn't look to be that hard to make happen.

Another design:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-PzkuMcF46Yfeature=related



On Sun, Dec 14, 2008 at 10:36 AM, Steve Tyng steve...@gmail.com wrote:


 Rotomolding your own parts doesn't seem to be beyond the resourceful
 do-it-yourselfer.

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t6ISPfo6U1A
 http://www.bjbenterprises.com/pdf/TC-850.pdf
 http://www.solsylva.com/cnc/rotomolder.shtml

 Steve Tyng



 On Dec 12, 8:48 pm, Joe Sommer anvil...@comcast.net wrote:
  The rotomolded plastic Panther arrived today from
  Tim Loeb at Plastic Panzershttp://www.plasticpanzers.8k.com/
 
  It is awesome.
 
  While it is too big for DW960 drill motors, it is perfect
  for an aluminum hull with M01 motors.
 
  I will post a couple photos before I begin hacking into it.
 
  Joe
 


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[TANKS] Re: rotomolded plastic Panther hull and turret

2008-12-14 Thread Joe Sommer


On Dec 14, 10:36 am, Steve Tyng steve...@gmail.com wrote:
 Rotomolding your own parts doesn't seem to be beyond the resourceful
 do-it-yourselfer.

Unfortunately, Anvilus Machine Works does not have
enough space for a rotomolding gimbal large enough
to make a 36 inch long tank hull.

Smooth-On also sells liquid rotomolding material.
http://www.smooth-on.com/Urethane-Plastic-a/c5_1120_1207/index.html
The trial size is only $25.

I believe that the rotomolded tank hulls were
made from polyethylene pellets melted in a heated
rotomold.

Joe



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[TANKS] Re: rotomolded plastic Panther hull and turret

2008-12-14 Thread Steve Tyng

 Unfortunately, Anvilus Machine Works does not have
 enough space for a rotomolding gimbal large enough
 to make a 36 inch long tank hull.

Since I have the space AND if I were still under the delusion there
was money to be made in this hobby, I might have built one.


Steve Tyng




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[TANKS] Re: rotomolded plastic Panther hull and turret

2008-12-14 Thread jvragu47



On Dec 14, 4:28 pm, Chris Malton chr...@cmalton.me.uk wrote:
 Money to be made?  Money to be spent, maybe, but money to be made!?

 Since when did we ever make any money battling these monsters?

 Chris

Chris,
We do not provide info nor stats and the side wagers at our
battles since this is strictly a gentlemens sport.

John laying 3 to 1 on scoring 1st kill in spring Pittelli
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[TANKS] Re: rotomolded plastic Panther hull and turret

2008-12-14 Thread Doug Conn

What is GRP ?

- Doug

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On Behalf Of Chris. b
Sent: Sunday, December 14, 2008 8:45 PM
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does rotomolding have any advantages? Why not just use GRP? Seems like
its extra effort for similar results.



Chris. b

On Dec 15, 11:22 am, jvragu47 jpl...@yahoo.com wrote:
 On Dec 14, 4:28 pm, Chris Malton chr...@cmalton.me.uk wrote: Money to
be made?  Money to be spent, maybe, but money to be made!?

  Since when did we ever make any money battling these monsters?

  Chris

 Chris,

 We do not provide info nor stats and the side wagers at our
 battles since this is strictly a gentlemens sport.

 John laying 3 to 1 on scoring 1st kill in spring Pittelli


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[TANKS] Re: rotomolded plastic Panther hull and turret

2008-12-14 Thread OdysseySlipways
 
In a message dated 12/14/2008 8:45:19 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
barthelso...@hotmail.com writes:

does  rotomolding have any advantages? Why not just use GRP? Seems like
its extra  effort for similar results.



Chris. b


i don't really see any benefits to using a rotocast for any of the parts of  
the tank.
 
tanks parts such as the turret and body just wouldn't cut it with the  
rotocast, you'd be better off making egg shells with it when it comes to this  
sport/hobby.
 
items just as engine grill vents, mufflers, road wheels, turret hatches and  
the likes can be cast in a tough resin such as Task 3 and will hold up just  
fine.
 
for the hulls and turrets, make them out of fiberglass, metal plating,  heavy 
vacuum form plastic or (the standard) wood, just don't waste your time and  
money on the rotocast
 
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[TANKS] Re: rotomolded plastic Panther hull and turret

2008-12-14 Thread OdysseySlipways
 
 
In a message dated 12/14/2008 8:54:04 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
dwconn...@comcast.net writes:

What is  GRP ?

- Doug


glass reinforced P? (plastic comes to mind, but i know that's not  right), 
pretty much fiberglass
 
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[TANKS] Re: rotomolded plastic Panther hull and turret

2008-12-14 Thread Paul Hilton

I would guess that it's (GRP) this:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glass-reinforced_plastic

I would also guess the the main advantage of rotomolding would be the hollow 
core.  I'm not sure that there is any advantage other than that.  Perhaps 
speed and repeatability.  I kind of like the method I used for the BT-7 
turret shell.  I covered a styrofoam core with aluminum foil and applied 
fiberglass and resin to the outside of it.

Paul H.
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To: rctankcombat@googlegroups.com
Sent: Sunday, December 14, 2008 8:53 PM
Subject: [TANKS] Re: rotomolded plastic Panther hull and turret



 What is GRP ?

 - Doug

 -Original Message-
 From: rctankcombat@googlegroups.com [mailto:rctankcom...@googlegroups.com]
 On Behalf Of Chris. b
 Sent: Sunday, December 14, 2008 8:45 PM
 To: R/C Tank Combat
 Subject: [TANKS] Re: rotomolded plastic Panther hull and turret


 does rotomolding have any advantages? Why not just use GRP? Seems like
 its extra effort for similar results.



 Chris. b

 On Dec 15, 11:22 am, jvragu47 jpl...@yahoo.com wrote:
 On Dec 14, 4:28 pm, Chris Malton chr...@cmalton.me.uk wrote: Money to
 be made?  Money to be spent, maybe, but money to be made!?

  Since when did we ever make any money battling these monsters?

  Chris

 Chris,

 We do not provide info nor stats and the side wagers at our
 battles since this is strictly a gentlemens sport.

 John laying 3 to 1 on scoring 1st kill in spring Pittelli


 
 



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[TANKS] Re: rotomolded plastic Panther hull and turret

2008-12-14 Thread Paul Hilton
Hah!  No, not worried about shorts.  Resin doesn't like sticking to the 
aluminum.  Mostly it stays on the form.  Any remaining on the inside is easily 
peeled off.  The only parts that give me fits are areas of the foil that are 
folded ofer that I've missed, thy have to be chipped off.

Paul H.  
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  Sent: Sunday, December 14, 2008 9:23 PM
  Subject: [TANKS] Re: rotomolded plastic Panther hull and turret


  In a message dated 12/14/2008 9:21:33 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, 
phil...@defnet.com writes:
I would guess that it's (GRP) this:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glass-reinforced_plastic

I would also guess the the main advantage of rotomolding would be the 
hollow 
core.  I'm not sure that there is any advantage other than that.  Perhaps 
speed and repeatability.  I kind of like the method I used for the BT-7 
turret shell.  I covered a styrofoam core with aluminum foil and applied 
fiberglass and resin to the outside of it.

Paul H.
  well i'd be, i guessed right

  i was told once before to use latex paint over the finished foam core. not 
too worried about having any shorts in the turret?

  Chris,
  Odyssey Slipways





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[TANKS] Well, I have a rolling chassis...what next?

2008-12-14 Thread NavyShooter

Ok, I've got a rolling chassis.  I'm short 3 wheels, and haven't
tightened the nuts down on my torsion bars yet, so it's not actually
rolling, but it's almost there.

How do I include a pic with this, or post one?

Brad


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[TANKS] Re: Well, I have a rolling chassis...what next?

2008-12-14 Thread NavyShooter

Ignore last, here's the pic, in the files section:

http://rctankcombat.googlegroups.com/web/Dec%2008%20134%20%28Small%29.jpg?gsc=W1__IyEAAABxqxOqe6qWFUgT6yi4-rStP0dZXG8SP6E3OTZKQc8OX0zfKN-m9S9niuHrq-IEXAE


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[TANKS] Re: Well, I have a rolling chassis...what next?

2008-12-14 Thread Derek Engelhaupt

Holy cow, that thing is going to be heavy...;)

Nice work.  Next thing is to get it to move under it's own power.
Then you can get a designation number.

Derek (too lazy right now to get a designation)



On Sun, Dec 14, 2008 at 9:17 PM, NavyShooter cof...@ns.sympatico.ca wrote:

 Ignore last, here's the pic, in the files section:

 http://rctankcombat.googlegroups.com/web/Dec%2008%20134%20%28Small%29.jpg?gsc=W1__IyEAAABxqxOqe6qWFUgT6yi4-rStP0dZXG8SP6E3OTZKQc8OX0zfKN-m9S9niuHrq-IEXAE


 


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[TANKS] Re: rotomolded plastic Panther hull and turret

2008-12-14 Thread OdysseySlipways
 
 
In a message dated 12/14/2008 9:43:05 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
phil...@defnet.com writes:

Hah!  No, not worried about shorts.  Resin doesn't like  sticking to the 
aluminum.  Mostly it stays on the form.  Any  remaining on the inside is easily 
peeled off.  The only parts that give  me fits are areas of the foil that are 
folded ofer that I've missed, thy have  to be chipped off.
 
Paul H.  




i would have thought the foil would have bonded nicely to the resin,  was it 
epoxy resin or (can't think of the other type that's out there)
 
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[TANKS] Re: rotomolded plastic Panther hull and turret

2008-12-14 Thread Chris. b

GRP is fibreglass (glass reinforced plastic)

Fibre glass resin are usually epoxy or polyester, polyester is your
basic DIY type resin.
I have found coating parts in vaselline (petrolleum jelly) works
really well for releasing parts. I plan on making my next tank out of
composite materials like fibreglass.

Chris. b




On Dec 15, 2:59 pm, odysseyslipw...@aol.com wrote:
 In a message dated 12/14/2008 9:43:05 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,  

 phil...@defnet.com writes:

 Hah!  No, not worried about shorts.  Resin doesn't like  sticking to the
 aluminum.  Mostly it stays on the form.  Any  remaining on the inside is 
 easily
 peeled off.  The only parts that give  me fits are areas of the foil that are
 folded ofer that I've missed, thy have  to be chipped off.

 Paul H.  

 i would have thought the foil would have bonded nicely to the resin,  was it
 epoxy resin or (can't think of the other type that's out there)

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