[TANKS] Can't sleep anymore - dreaming of tank-designs
Just wanted to wish you guys a wonderful Christmas and happy newyear beforehand. I've been busy with all kinds of things, not tank- related. Last night I couldn't sleep because I was thinking about my 6-wheel propulsion system, and my new garage (available 06-2009) where I can start mass-producing the different things developing in my mind. Sorry to keep TNT-team waiting :( --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You are currently subscribed to the R/C Tank Combat group. To post a message, send email to rctankcombat@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe, send email to rctankcombat-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com Visit the group at http://groups.google.com/group/rctankcombat -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[TANKS] Re: Seeking advice for a first tank
I would recommend a tank destroyer, Or a WW1 Mark V. (The Mark V had no suspension, and the boogies are bolted on both sides, making the whole track assembly strong. Also, a hinge track would look quite good I suspect) I'd go with the simplest, Because in my experience, everything gets more difficult. My Sherman tank chahsis (carries a four year old) Worked well initially, but there;'s a lot of wear and weight, things get loose,... aim for reliability and simplicity Steven C. -Original Message- From: rctankcombat@googlegroups.com [mailto:rctankcom...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Steve Tyng Sent: Friday, December 19, 2008 7:27 AM To: R/C Tank Combat Subject: [TANKS] Re: Seeking advice for a first tank For your first tank I wouldn't even recommend a sprung suspension. I'd build a solid suspension and worry about all the other details that your tank must have to be operational. Since everything suspension-wise is outside on the Sherman to begin with, it would be an easy matter to upgrade to a suspension later on. Steve Tyng mike wrote: Fellow hobbyiststs, You probably forgot (like me) that I was going to build an M4 Sherman. The problem is its lack of information. Can somebody share a way to acquire some reasonable blueprints? The model is specifically the M4A3 76mm (Wet) Sherman VVSS similar to the HVSS E8 I believe. Would you recommend Horizontal or Vertical Suspension? HVSS is more advanced, but would it be more difficult to build? Also, I plan to build its geometric frame of the tank's body out of either aluminum/steel squared bars or maybe just 1in wood. Whatever it may be, the armour is most likely 1/2in ply as in accordance with The Prophecy. Can you provide any constructive criticism, advice, or ideas? Thank you for supporting amateurs and I hope to participate more in this hobby. -Mike M�ne @ http://moonrcprojects.googlepages.com The contents of this electronic mail message and any attachments are confidential, possibly privileged and intended for the addressee(s) only. Only the addressee(s) may read, disseminate, retain or otherwise use this message. If received in error, please immediately inform the sender and then delete this message without disclosing its contents to anyone. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You are currently subscribed to the R/C Tank Combat group. To post a message, send email to rctankcombat@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe, send email to rctankcombat-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com Visit the group at http://groups.google.com/group/rctankcombat -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[TANKS] Re: HUMVEE's
If you have Windows Vista, right click anywhere on the page, then find page info in the dropdown box. Click on page info and then find translate page into English. Click on translate page into English and then you too can read Cantonese or Mandarin (aka Chinese). Works for most other major languages as well. I don't know if it is available in other versions of Windows. I used this tool quite a lot researching Soviet tanks on the web browser Colossus. Have fun with it. Paul H. - Original Message - From: callum.king.underw...@googlemail.com callum.king.underw...@hotmail.com To: R/C Tank Combat rctankcombat@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, December 19, 2008 10:32 AM Subject: [TANKS] Re: HUMVEE's Can anyone here actually read chinese. On Dec 18, 5:15 pm, Paul Hilton phil...@defnet.com wrote: You guys might get a kick out of this. I just bought two canary yellow H3 Hummers from wally world. Not sure if I'll be able to use them, seem kind of small. The price was right $35, and there was onlt two left. Maybe, after lots of paint and a few add-ons, I'll be able to pass one off as one of these: http://auto.tom.com/drive/dfhm.html Seems fitting as they were made in china. Paul H. - Original Message - From: Mike Måne To: rctankcombat@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, December 15, 2008 7:14 PM Subject: [TANKS] Re: HUMVEE's sorry, here are the pictures On Mon, Dec 15, 2008 at 6:14 PM, Mike Måne mike082...@gmail.com wrote: I haven't been on the Group lately, but seeing the title Humvee I couldn't resist. First of all, the $70 hummer that Paul uploaded from Walmart is the H3. It's my personal least favourite because its narrow shape and body is noticeably similar to the Jeep. However, it might not be too difficult to convert the body to the H-1 military vehicle. After all, it has a fairly simple geometry. Concerning its armament, one could easily build a trainable CROW turret. Also, as most HMMWV's, one could attach a TOW launcher. Attached are a couple photos. On Thu, Dec 11, 2008 at 1:38 PM, HV henryverheg...@earthlink.net wrote: Here is a 1/6th humvee, the military one. The body looks accurate, but it still doesn't look like the real thing because the body is too high above the wheels. The tires aren't accurate either, but they probably have better traction than scale tires. http://store.cubeberry.com/servlet/Detail?no=52 -- -Mike Måne @ http://moonrcprojects.googlepages.com --- - --- - --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You are currently subscribed to the R/C Tank Combat group. To post a message, send email to rctankcombat@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe, send email to rctankcombat-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com Visit the group at http://groups.google.com/group/rctankcombat -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[TANKS] Re: Seeking advice for a first tank
Hi mike, If you are going to use a steel or aluminium frame 1/2 ply may be too thick, you could get away with 3/8 if supported by a frame. just my theory anyways. Chris. b On Dec 20, 2:12 am, Crooks, Steven M steven.cro...@usoncology.com wrote: I would recommend a tank destroyer, Or a WW1 Mark V. (The Mark V had no suspension, and the boogies are bolted on both sides, making the whole track assembly strong. Also, a hinge track would look quite good I suspect) I'd go with the simplest, Because in my experience, everything gets more difficult. My Sherman tank chahsis (carries a four year old) Worked well initially, but there;'s a lot of wear and weight, things get loose,... aim for reliability and simplicity Steven C. -Original Message- From: rctankcombat@googlegroups.com [mailto:rctankcom...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Steve Tyng Sent: Friday, December 19, 2008 7:27 AM To: R/C Tank Combat Subject: [TANKS] Re: Seeking advice for a first tank For your first tank I wouldn't even recommend a sprung suspension. I'd build a solid suspension and worry about all the other details that your tank must have to be operational. Since everything suspension-wise is outside on the Sherman to begin with, it would be an easy matter to upgrade to a suspension later on. Steve Tyng mike wrote: Fellow hobbyiststs, You probably forgot (like me) that I was going to build an M4 Sherman. The problem is its lack of information. Can somebody share a way to acquire some reasonable blueprints? The model is specifically the M4A3 76mm (Wet) Sherman VVSS similar to the HVSS E8 I believe. Would you recommend Horizontal or Vertical Suspension? HVSS is more advanced, but would it be more difficult to build? Also, I plan to build its geometric frame of the tank's body out of either aluminum/steel squared bars or maybe just 1in wood. Whatever it may be, the armour is most likely 1/2in ply as in accordance with The Prophecy. Can you provide any constructive criticism, advice, or ideas? Thank you for supporting amateurs and I hope to participate more in this hobby. -Mike M ne @ http://moonrcprojects.googlepages.com The contents of this electronic mail message and any attachments are confidential, possibly privileged and intended for the addressee(s) only. Only the addressee(s) may read, disseminate, retain or otherwise use this message. If received in error, please immediately inform the sender and then delete this message without disclosing its contents to anyone.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You are currently subscribed to the R/C Tank Combat group. To post a message, send email to rctankcombat@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe, send email to rctankcombat-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com Visit the group at http://groups.google.com/group/rctankcombat -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[TANKS] Re: HUMVEE's
http://translate.google.com/translate?sourceid=navclienthl=enu=http%3a%2f%2fauto%2etom%2ecom%2fdrive%2fdfhm%2ehtml Try this. It should translate it once opened. On Fri, Dec 19, 2008 at 11:12 AM, Paul Hilton phil...@defnet.com wrote: If you have Windows Vista, right click anywhere on the page, then find page info in the dropdown box. Click on page info and then find translate page into English. Click on translate page into English and then you too can read Cantonese or Mandarin (aka Chinese). Works for most other major languages as well. I don't know if it is available in other versions of Windows. I used this tool quite a lot researching Soviet tanks on the web browser Colossus. Have fun with it. Paul H. - Original Message - From: callum.king.underw...@googlemail.com callum.king.underw...@hotmail.com To: R/C Tank Combat rctankcombat@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, December 19, 2008 10:32 AM Subject: [TANKS] Re: HUMVEE's Can anyone here actually read chinese. On Dec 18, 5:15 pm, Paul Hilton phil...@defnet.com wrote: You guys might get a kick out of this. I just bought two canary yellow H3 Hummers from wally world. Not sure if I'll be able to use them, seem kind of small. The price was right $35, and there was onlt two left. Maybe, after lots of paint and a few add-ons, I'll be able to pass one off as one of these: http://auto.tom.com/drive/dfhm.html Seems fitting as they were made in china. Paul H. - Original Message - From: Mike Måne To: rctankcombat@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, December 15, 2008 7:14 PM Subject: [TANKS] Re: HUMVEE's sorry, here are the pictures On Mon, Dec 15, 2008 at 6:14 PM, Mike Måne mike082...@gmail.com wrote: I haven't been on the Group lately, but seeing the title Humvee I couldn't resist. First of all, the $70 hummer that Paul uploaded from Walmart is the H3. It's my personal least favourite because its narrow shape and body is noticeably similar to the Jeep. However, it might not be too difficult to convert the body to the H-1 military vehicle. After all, it has a fairly simple geometry. Concerning its armament, one could easily build a trainable CROW turret. Also, as most HMMWV's, one could attach a TOW launcher. Attached are a couple photos. On Thu, Dec 11, 2008 at 1:38 PM, HV henryverheg...@earthlink.net wrote: Here is a 1/6th humvee, the military one. The body looks accurate, but it still doesn't look like the real thing because the body is too high above the wheels. The tires aren't accurate either, but they probably have better traction than scale tires. http://store.cubeberry.com/servlet/Detail?no=52 -- -Mike Måne @ http://moonrcprojects.googlepages.com --- - --- - -- -Mike Måne @ http://moonrcprojects.googlepages.com --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You are currently subscribed to the R/C Tank Combat group. To post a message, send email to rctankcombat@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe, send email to rctankcombat-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com Visit the group at http://groups.google.com/group/rctankcombat -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[TANKS] Re: Lathe recommendations?
Well now I'm going to have to go and buy one! Damn you two and your logic! Imagine just buying the tools you might use, perish the thought! On Dec 19, 2008, at 3:14 PM, Frank Pittelli wrote: Thomas Lum wrote: Lathe $400-$500 Yes. QC Tool Post $100 No. You can't do things slowly yet, why do you need a fancier tool post? I've purchased two tool posts and I'm still using the stock tool posts on both my lathes because they work better and are easier to use for my purposes. Turning Bits with inserts $120 No. Use the stock, cheap bits that come with the lathe. Destroy them first before destroying more expensive ones. And before you buy a set of bits, try them out. There are various styles and they have to suit your personal style. If you come by the shop, I can show you a couple different styles of bits and you can see the tradeoffs associated with each. Drills w/ chuck $35 If it doesn't come with a chuck for the tailstock, you'll definitely need one. If you have old chucks in the shop, you only need to purchase an adaptor to fit the tailstock. BTW: I have spare chucks if you want one. Boring Set $40 No. For our purposes, most boring operations can be done with drills, boring bars and/or a cutting bit. If you really need them, you can buy them later. (I still have a boring set in the original wrapper which tells you how useful it's been.) Cut Off Knife $10 They don't work as good as a hand-held hacksaw blade (I have a couple that fit various tool posts that I don't use.) Larger Chuck? $100 No. Larger items (like wheels) are best held with fixtures, not chucks. Once you learn how to make fixtures, the stock chuck will handle all your jobs. Think of it like going to school. You wouldn't buy books for all 4 years of college on the first day. Take some lessons, do your homework and then buy the more advanced stuff. Frank P. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You are currently subscribed to the R/C Tank Combat group. To post a message, send email to rctankcombat@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe, send email to rctankcombat-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com Visit the group at http://groups.google.com/group/rctankcombat -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[TANKS] Re: Seeking advice for a first tank
For a solid suspension I would go with a friction drive TTS, pretty simple to make and work quite well. Chris. b On Dec 20, 9:15 am, Mike Måne mike082...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks for the info. I might try a solid suspension to begin with. If so, what kind of tracks would be best? On Fri, Dec 19, 2008 at 4:02 PM, Chris. b barthelso...@hotmail.com wrote: Hi mike, If you are going to use a steel or aluminium frame 1/2 ply may be too thick, you could get away with 3/8 if supported by a frame. just my theory anyways. Chris. b On Dec 20, 2:12 am, Crooks, Steven M steven.cro...@usoncology.com wrote: I would recommend a tank destroyer, Or a WW1 Mark V. (The Mark V had no suspension, and the boogies are bolted on both sides, making the whole track assembly strong. Also, a hinge track would look quite good I suspect) I'd go with the simplest, Because in my experience, everything gets more difficult. My Sherman tank chahsis (carries a four year old) Worked well initially, but there;'s a lot of wear and weight, things get loose,... aim for reliability and simplicity Steven C. -Original Message- From: rctankcombat@googlegroups.com [mailto: rctankcom...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Steve Tyng Sent: Friday, December 19, 2008 7:27 AM To: R/C Tank Combat Subject: [TANKS] Re: Seeking advice for a first tank For your first tank I wouldn't even recommend a sprung suspension. I'd build a solid suspension and worry about all the other details that your tank must have to be operational. Since everything suspension-wise is outside on the Sherman to begin with, it would be an easy matter to upgrade to a suspension later on. Steve Tyng mike wrote: Fellow hobbyiststs, You probably forgot (like me) that I was going to build an M4 Sherman. The problem is its lack of information. Can somebody share a way to acquire some reasonable blueprints? The model is specifically the M4A3 76mm (Wet) Sherman VVSS similar to the HVSS E8 I believe. Would you recommend Horizontal or Vertical Suspension? HVSS is more advanced, but would it be more difficult to build? Also, I plan to build its geometric frame of the tank's body out of either aluminum/steel squared bars or maybe just 1in wood. Whatever it may be, the armour is most likely 1/2in ply as in accordance with The Prophecy. Can you provide any constructive criticism, advice, or ideas? Thank you for supporting amateurs and I hope to participate more in this hobby. -Mike M ne @ http://moonrcprojects.googlepages.com The contents of this electronic mail message and any attachments are confidential, possibly privileged and intended for the addressee(s) only. Only the addressee(s) may read, disseminate, retain or otherwise use this message. If received in error, please immediately inform the sender and then delete this message without disclosing its contents to anyone.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - -- -Mike Måne @http://moonrcprojects.googlepages.com- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You are currently subscribed to the R/C Tank Combat group. To post a message, send email to rctankcombat@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe, send email to rctankcombat-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com Visit the group at http://groups.google.com/group/rctankcombat -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[TANKS] Re: Seeking advice for a first tank
For a Sherman, I'd use a crank bell type of suspension with a pair of swinging wheels in every bogie (no springs involved), as in Neil's LOcust http://www.rctankcombat.com/tanks/T055/04-large.jpg The easy way to go. Chrys - Original Message - From: Chris. b barthelso...@hotmail.com To: R/C Tank Combat rctankcombat@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, December 20, 2008 5:26 AM Subject: [TANKS] Re: Seeking advice for a first tank For a solid suspension I would go with a friction drive TTS, pretty simple to make and work quite well. Chris. b On Dec 20, 9:15 am, Mike Måne mike082...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks for the info. I might try a solid suspension to begin with. If so, what kind of tracks would be best? On Fri, Dec 19, 2008 at 4:02 PM, Chris. b barthelso...@hotmail.com wrote: Hi mike, If you are going to use a steel or aluminium frame 1/2 ply may be too thick, you could get away with 3/8 if supported by a frame. just my theory anyways. Chris. b On Dec 20, 2:12 am, Crooks, Steven M steven.cro...@usoncology.com wrote: I would recommend a tank destroyer, Or a WW1 Mark V. (The Mark V had no suspension, and the boogies are bolted on both sides, making the whole track assembly strong. Also, a hinge track would look quite good I suspect) I'd go with the simplest, Because in my experience, everything gets more difficult. My Sherman tank chahsis (carries a four year old) Worked well initially, but there;'s a lot of wear and weight, things get loose,... aim for reliability and simplicity Steven C. -Original Message- From: rctankcombat@googlegroups.com [mailto: rctankcom...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Steve Tyng Sent: Friday, December 19, 2008 7:27 AM To: R/C Tank Combat Subject: [TANKS] Re: Seeking advice for a first tank For your first tank I wouldn't even recommend a sprung suspension. I'd build a solid suspension and worry about all the other details that your tank must have to be operational. Since everything suspension-wise is outside on the Sherman to begin with, it would be an easy matter to upgrade to a suspension later on. Steve Tyng mike wrote: Fellow hobbyiststs, You probably forgot (like me) that I was going to build an M4 Sherman. The problem is its lack of information. Can somebody share a way to acquire some reasonable blueprints? The model is specifically the M4A3 76mm (Wet) Sherman VVSS similar to the HVSS E8 I believe. Would you recommend Horizontal or Vertical Suspension? HVSS is more advanced, but would it be more difficult to build? Also, I plan to build its geometric frame of the tank's body out of either aluminum/steel squared bars or maybe just 1in wood. Whatever it may be, the armour is most likely 1/2in ply as in accordance with The Prophecy. Can you provide any constructive criticism, advice, or ideas? Thank you for supporting amateurs and I hope to participate more in this hobby. -Mike M ne @ http://moonrcprojects.googlepages.com The contents of this electronic mail message and any attachments are confidential, possibly privileged and intended for the addressee(s) only. Only the addressee(s) may read, disseminate, retain or otherwise use this message. If received in error, please immediately inform the sender and then delete this message without disclosing its contents to anyone.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - -- -Mike Måne @http://moonrcprojects.googlepages.com- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - __ NOD32 3434 (20080911) Information __ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. http://www.eset.com --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You are currently subscribed to the R/C Tank Combat group. To post a message, send email to rctankcombat@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe, send email to rctankcombat-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com Visit the group at http://groups.google.com/group/rctankcombat -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
