[TANKS] Re: !/3rd Tank build

2010-11-04 Thread Cobra
Thank you for the kind words. I compress the springs using channel
locks(tounge and groove pliars) and simply pull them off one side at a
time.
http://i752.photobucket.com/albums/xx165/cobra9431/0091.jpg
By compressing these 2 points together, the idler wheel gives enough
slack to slip the track off with ease. Nice thing about this track is
that since getting the correct spring tension, it has yet to throw.
knock on wood * :)
Do you plan on using a suspension system? If not then there would
probably be no advantage in a idler like mine. But I would think an
independent idler wheel for tension would be best for any set up using
a suspension system. Otherwise any time one track's suspension is
stressed on one side, and the other not, then one might have problems
with alignment at that wheel and/or improper tension distribution.
Perhaps real life operation is not a drastic as I imagine it, but I
plan on navigating gnarly terrain.
I would not be offended if you did not use the idler concept for your
own as at 1:3 you might need a set of uber sized chennel locks, but
the design is for any and all to use and abuse as wished.

Aaron F
T076
SCAB

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[TANKS] Re: !/3rd Tank build

2010-11-03 Thread neroc
Aaron wrote:-  Have you considered a idler wheel instead like on my
T076
Sherman? 

I have ooggled your Sherman with much admiration Aaron , I like the
fact that you`ve designed and built a totally new idler setup but I
dont wish to copy it .I can imagine how your system saves a fair bit
of space in the hull but how can it be easier to remove the tracks,
and if you are prepared to struggle with a 1/6th tank thats one thing
but what about a 1/3rd tank , I know a marder is a small tank but the
tracks are 11 and 1/2 feet long and 6 inches wide ( scaleish ).
I was wondering how you remove your tracks , or do you just not ??

Neil R



On Oct 29, 6:20 pm, Cobra afreem...@live.com wrote:
 So let let me get this straight, you want to know if 1 bar is
 sufficient for a torsion bar suspension system on your big target
 I mean tank. It might be a little stiff if you tried it.

 Just kidding,;-) I personaly would go bigger than 20mm for your
 tension axle. The 1 steel is likely what you want, expensive or
 otherwise. Have you considered a idler wheel instead like on my T076
 Sherman?

 Aaron F
 T076
 SCAB

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[TANKS] Re: !/3rd Tank build

2010-10-29 Thread neroc
Thank you Pete ,I`ve now got 8 of them on their way to me ..

Im NOT building a torsion bar suspension system , 1 inch or
otherwise ..

I did want to know if a one inch bright mild steel bar was considered
big enough ( or overkill ) to be used as a tension axle in a tank with
a fully loaded weight of 300-400 pounds ?
Id like to use 20mm bright bar instead of 1 as bearings double in
price at any size over 20mm.

Neil R

On Oct 28, 11:08 pm, Pete Arundel pureteenl...@hotmail.com wrote:
 10 wheels (well 250mm which is close enough) here, 
 Neil;http://www.castors-online.co.uk/acatalog/End_Of_Line_Wheels.html

 On Oct 27, 8:46 pm, neroc funkyne...@ntlworld.com wrote:







  I`ve started my new tank , I`ve now got a basic hull and and gosh its
  big ,Im out at scrap yards looking for steel tomorrow , im wondering
  what diameter bar my tension axle will need to be , is it a case of
  double the scale = double the diameter ?
  im aiming for 1 inch mild steel rod, but I`ll have to see what I can
  find. if anyone thinks other wise please let me know .
  And if anyone knows of any  8No 10 inch wheels going  give me a nod.

  Neil R

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[TANKS] Re: !/3rd Tank build

2010-10-28 Thread Pete Arundel
10 wheels (well 250mm which is close enough) here, Neil;
http://www.castors-online.co.uk/acatalog/End_Of_Line_Wheels.html

On Oct 27, 8:46 pm, neroc funkyne...@ntlworld.com wrote:
 I`ve started my new tank , I`ve now got a basic hull and and gosh its
 big ,Im out at scrap yards looking for steel tomorrow , im wondering
 what diameter bar my tension axle will need to be , is it a case of
 double the scale = double the diameter ?
 im aiming for 1 inch mild steel rod, but I`ll have to see what I can
 find. if anyone thinks other wise please let me know .
 And if anyone knows of any  8No 10 inch wheels going  give me a nod.

 Neil R

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[TANKS] Re: !/3rd Tank build

2010-10-28 Thread NavyShooter
I will suggest that 1 torsion bars will be too much.

I have a 200-ish pound Tiger 1, and using 1/4 spring steel torsion
bars (See tank T-066 build photos) I get decent support, with some to
spare.  (7 rods per side, total of 14.)

I would suggest getting some 3/8 rod and trying that (it's much
cheaper than 1) build a little test-frame of some sort and trial it
before going whole-hog into building a lot of torsion rods and stuff
that won't even deflect when you add weight.

Good luck!

Brad

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