Re: [TANKS] Re: new to the hobby(but not to tank building)
Hi guys, I found your guy's group on google and would very much appreciate your expertise in tank tracks for robots. I am building a system that requires two tank tracks to hold 300lbs while going down stairs. I just wanted to ask which type of DIY tank tracks you guys think would best fit this situation? I have a budget of $400 dollars and can afford a customized track. Additionally this is for a senior design project and I am just doing reseach on the indivial parts. There doesn't seem to be much info on the load capacity these tracks can hold. Here is the link i found on the different types: http://www.rctankcombat.com/articles/track-systems/ On Sunday, April 6, 2014 6:46:02 AM UTC-7, lotus7 wrote: hour north of toronto-barrie On Sunday, April 6, 2014 9:37:42 AM UTC-4, True North Armouries wrote: Another Canadian yay. What part of Ontario? On Sun, Apr 6, 2014 at 9:31 AM, lotus7 build...@yahoo.com wrote: Thankyou Steve, I did look at that option,but it will end up being cheaper for me getting sprockets and machining done locally than doing an order to USA (I am in Ontario,Canada) plus I already have #35 components. On Friday, April 4, 2014 2:35:17 PM UTC-4, lotus7 wrote: Hi everyone, just joined and have alot of reading to do! Have started building my 1/6th ish scale T34/85.Got a second hand rc system and my motors are two 24volt 350watt gear reduction model MY101. If I may ask a few questions(prior to my searching the forum)? 1.Anyone sell motor controllers for variable speed operation? (would rather not go maryland attack group control with relays and stop/go control)but I would need a ready to use set up as my electronic skills are not the best 2.Anyone sell sprocket size #35- tooth drive sprockets to replace MY101 motors 9 tooth #410 sprocket? (worst case I can buy 2 #35,9 tooth 3/8 bore and take then to a machine shop for bore to be corrected and keyway cut. 3.How bad is it to install the motors end to end? i realize there is a small difference in rpms when you have one motor reversed compared to the other thanks in advance, -- -- You are currently subscribed to the R/C Tank Combat group. To post a message, send email to rctank...@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe, send email to rctankcombat...@googlegroups.com Visit the group at http://groups.google.com/group/rctankcombat --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups R/C Tank Combat group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rctankcombat...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Isaac Goldman 5142334423 This message contains confidential information and is intended only for the individual named. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. -- -- You are currently subscribed to the R/C Tank Combat group. To post a message, send email to rctankcombat@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe, send email to rctankcombat+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com Visit the group at http://groups.google.com/group/rctankcombat --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups R/C Tank Combat group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rctankcombat+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[TANKS] Re: new to the hobby(but not to tank building)
Lotus, Welcome to the group. Another option on sprockets is to keep the motor sprockets and get 410 sprockets from Staton: http://www.staton-inc.com/store/catalog/410_43_or_65_Single_Speed_Bicycle_Sprockets_and_Roller_Chain_1_2_Pitch_x_1_8_Width-50-1.html Steve Tyng On Friday, April 4, 2014 2:35:17 PM UTC-4, lotus7 wrote: Hi everyone, just joined and have alot of reading to do! Have started building my 1/6th ish scale T34/85.Got a second hand rc system and my motors are two 24volt 350watt gear reduction model MY101. If I may ask a few questions(prior to my searching the forum)? 1.Anyone sell motor controllers for variable speed operation? (would rather not go maryland attack group control with relays and stop/go control)but I would need a ready to use set up as my electronic skills are not the best 2.Anyone sell sprocket size #35- tooth drive sprockets to replace MY101 motors 9 tooth #410 sprocket? (worst case I can buy 2 #35,9 tooth 3/8 bore and take then to a machine shop for bore to be corrected and keyway cut. 3.How bad is it to install the motors end to end? i realize there is a small difference in rpms when you have one motor reversed compared to the other thanks in advance, -- -- You are currently subscribed to the R/C Tank Combat group. To post a message, send email to rctankcombat@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe, send email to rctankcombat+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com Visit the group at http://groups.google.com/group/rctankcombat --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups R/C Tank Combat group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rctankcombat+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[TANKS] Re: new to the hobby(but not to tank building)
Thankyou Steve, I did look at that option,but it will end up being cheaper for me getting sprockets and machining done locally than doing an order to USA (I am in Ontario,Canada) plus I already have #35 components. On Friday, April 4, 2014 2:35:17 PM UTC-4, lotus7 wrote: Hi everyone, just joined and have alot of reading to do! Have started building my 1/6th ish scale T34/85.Got a second hand rc system and my motors are two 24volt 350watt gear reduction model MY101. If I may ask a few questions(prior to my searching the forum)? 1.Anyone sell motor controllers for variable speed operation? (would rather not go maryland attack group control with relays and stop/go control)but I would need a ready to use set up as my electronic skills are not the best 2.Anyone sell sprocket size #35- tooth drive sprockets to replace MY101 motors 9 tooth #410 sprocket? (worst case I can buy 2 #35,9 tooth 3/8 bore and take then to a machine shop for bore to be corrected and keyway cut. 3.How bad is it to install the motors end to end? i realize there is a small difference in rpms when you have one motor reversed compared to the other thanks in advance, -- -- You are currently subscribed to the R/C Tank Combat group. To post a message, send email to rctankcombat@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe, send email to rctankcombat+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com Visit the group at http://groups.google.com/group/rctankcombat --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups R/C Tank Combat group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rctankcombat+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [TANKS] Re: new to the hobby(but not to tank building)
Another Canadian yay. What part of Ontario? On Sun, Apr 6, 2014 at 9:31 AM, lotus7 building...@yahoo.com wrote: Thankyou Steve, I did look at that option,but it will end up being cheaper for me getting sprockets and machining done locally than doing an order to USA (I am in Ontario,Canada) plus I already have #35 components. On Friday, April 4, 2014 2:35:17 PM UTC-4, lotus7 wrote: Hi everyone, just joined and have alot of reading to do! Have started building my 1/6th ish scale T34/85.Got a second hand rc system and my motors are two 24volt 350watt gear reduction model MY101. If I may ask a few questions(prior to my searching the forum)? 1.Anyone sell motor controllers for variable speed operation? (would rather not go maryland attack group control with relays and stop/go control)but I would need a ready to use set up as my electronic skills are not the best 2.Anyone sell sprocket size #35- tooth drive sprockets to replace MY101 motors 9 tooth #410 sprocket? (worst case I can buy 2 #35,9 tooth 3/8 bore and take then to a machine shop for bore to be corrected and keyway cut. 3.How bad is it to install the motors end to end? i realize there is a small difference in rpms when you have one motor reversed compared to the other thanks in advance, -- -- You are currently subscribed to the R/C Tank Combat group. To post a message, send email to rctankcombat@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe, send email to rctankcombat+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com Visit the group at http://groups.google.com/group/rctankcombat --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups R/C Tank Combat group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rctankcombat+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Isaac Goldman 5142334423 This message contains confidential information and is intended only for the individual named. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. -- -- You are currently subscribed to the R/C Tank Combat group. To post a message, send email to rctankcombat@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe, send email to rctankcombat+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com Visit the group at http://groups.google.com/group/rctankcombat --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups R/C Tank Combat group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rctankcombat+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [TANKS] Re: new to the hobby(but not to tank building)
Upon studying the literature for the TalonSD,it looks like it is capable of 60amp operation(just like the Sabertooth)-you just have to buy and install the optional fans (which comes standard on the Sabertooth) On Saturday, April 5, 2014 5:52:41 PM UTC-4, True North Armouries wrote: ^^ That sort of sums up my relationship with the Sabertooth; I liked that it did all the mixing for me and had plenty of options (brake/coast, linear/exp, regen etc) though. Yes im from Canada; Montreal to be exact. You can get a sabertooth at robotshop http://www.robotshop.com/ca/en/sabertooth-dual-motor-driver.html The price is ~200$ but remember it has the mixer and a BEC built in, and can output 33% more power than a Talon. Not that im denigrating the Talon, just pointing out what the extra money gets you. As an aside though, I do my mixing in software (onboard micro-controller or three) so I cant say what is and isnt a good mixer or how much one costs... On Sat, Apr 5, 2014 at 5:24 PM, neroc1 funky...@ntlworld.comjavascript: wrote: I have used/battled Sabertooth 2 x 25 for some years, I would not buy another one, they just dont last on anything bigger than kiddie car motors, I now have a 2 x 60 in my Marder (T068) no problems up to now. Your other question concerning the small difference in rpms when you have one motor reversed compared to the other is tiny and not a problem, If even noticed it can be trimmed out on your transmitter. Neil R -- -- You are currently subscribed to the R/C Tank Combat group. To post a message, send email to rctank...@googlegroups.com javascript: To unsubscribe, send email to rctankcombat...@googlegroups.comjavascript: Visit the group at http://groups.google.com/group/rctankcombat --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups R/C Tank Combat group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rctankcombat...@googlegroups.com javascript:. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Isaac Goldman 5142334423 This message contains confidential information and is intended only for the individual named. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. -- -- You are currently subscribed to the R/C Tank Combat group. To post a message, send email to rctankcombat@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe, send email to rctankcombat+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com Visit the group at http://groups.google.com/group/rctankcombat --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups R/C Tank Combat group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rctankcombat+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [TANKS] Re: new to the hobby(but not to tank building)
hour north of toronto-barrie On Sunday, April 6, 2014 9:37:42 AM UTC-4, True North Armouries wrote: Another Canadian yay. What part of Ontario? On Sun, Apr 6, 2014 at 9:31 AM, lotus7 build...@yahoo.com javascript:wrote: Thankyou Steve, I did look at that option,but it will end up being cheaper for me getting sprockets and machining done locally than doing an order to USA (I am in Ontario,Canada) plus I already have #35 components. On Friday, April 4, 2014 2:35:17 PM UTC-4, lotus7 wrote: Hi everyone, just joined and have alot of reading to do! Have started building my 1/6th ish scale T34/85.Got a second hand rc system and my motors are two 24volt 350watt gear reduction model MY101. If I may ask a few questions(prior to my searching the forum)? 1.Anyone sell motor controllers for variable speed operation? (would rather not go maryland attack group control with relays and stop/go control)but I would need a ready to use set up as my electronic skills are not the best 2.Anyone sell sprocket size #35- tooth drive sprockets to replace MY101 motors 9 tooth #410 sprocket? (worst case I can buy 2 #35,9 tooth 3/8 bore and take then to a machine shop for bore to be corrected and keyway cut. 3.How bad is it to install the motors end to end? i realize there is a small difference in rpms when you have one motor reversed compared to the other thanks in advance, -- -- You are currently subscribed to the R/C Tank Combat group. To post a message, send email to rctank...@googlegroups.com javascript: To unsubscribe, send email to rctankcombat...@googlegroups.comjavascript: Visit the group at http://groups.google.com/group/rctankcombat --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups R/C Tank Combat group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rctankcombat...@googlegroups.com javascript:. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Isaac Goldman 5142334423 This message contains confidential information and is intended only for the individual named. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. -- -- You are currently subscribed to the R/C Tank Combat group. To post a message, send email to rctankcombat@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe, send email to rctankcombat+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com Visit the group at http://groups.google.com/group/rctankcombat --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups R/C Tank Combat group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rctankcombat+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [TANKS] Re: new to the hobby(but not to tank building)
You are correct. In first robotics we are only allowed to run them at 40 so I assumed they could only do 40 amps... Having said that they have very small heat sinks (and by extension low thermal mass); at 60 amps I would say your thermal design is very important and should be well thought out. On Sun, Apr 6, 2014 at 9:46 AM, lotus7 building...@yahoo.com wrote: hour north of toronto-barrie On Sunday, April 6, 2014 9:37:42 AM UTC-4, True North Armouries wrote: Another Canadian yay. What part of Ontario? On Sun, Apr 6, 2014 at 9:31 AM, lotus7 build...@yahoo.com wrote: Thankyou Steve, I did look at that option,but it will end up being cheaper for me getting sprockets and machining done locally than doing an order to USA (I am in Ontario,Canada) plus I already have #35 components. On Friday, April 4, 2014 2:35:17 PM UTC-4, lotus7 wrote: Hi everyone, just joined and have alot of reading to do! Have started building my 1/6th ish scale T34/85.Got a second hand rc system and my motors are two 24volt 350watt gear reduction model MY101. If I may ask a few questions(prior to my searching the forum)? 1.Anyone sell motor controllers for variable speed operation? (would rather not go maryland attack group control with relays and stop/go control)but I would need a ready to use set up as my electronic skills are not the best 2.Anyone sell sprocket size #35- tooth drive sprockets to replace MY101 motors 9 tooth #410 sprocket? (worst case I can buy 2 #35,9 tooth 3/8 bore and take then to a machine shop for bore to be corrected and keyway cut. 3.How bad is it to install the motors end to end? i realize there is a small difference in rpms when you have one motor reversed compared to the other thanks in advance, -- -- You are currently subscribed to the R/C Tank Combat group. To post a message, send email to rctank...@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe, send email to rctankcombat...@googlegroups.com Visit the group at http://groups.google.com/group/rctankcombat --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups R/C Tank Combat group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rctankcombat...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Isaac Goldman 5142334423 This message contains confidential information and is intended only for the individual named. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. -- -- You are currently subscribed to the R/C Tank Combat group. To post a message, send email to rctankcombat@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe, send email to rctankcombat+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com Visit the group at http://groups.google.com/group/rctankcombat --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups R/C Tank Combat group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rctankcombat+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Isaac Goldman 5142334423 This message contains confidential information and is intended only for the individual named. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. -- -- You are currently subscribed to the R/C Tank Combat group. To post a message, send email to rctankcombat@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe, send email to rctankcombat+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com Visit the group at http://groups.google.com/group/rctankcombat --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups R/C Tank Combat group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rctankcombat+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [TANKS] Re: new to the hobby(but not to tank building)
The Talon itself is a grade A product; we just had First robotics the weekend before last, they worked great. No troubles at all. Assuming a low-ish 40 amps works for you, they were almost everything I could ask for. Having said that, they are only available from Andymark to my knowledge, a website that charges horrible shipping rates (see for yourself; they really are atrocious). One alternative is the Sabertooth line of motor controllers (you would probably want either the 2X25 or 2X60. Id say 2X60). It has built in mixing as an option, which may be a huge plus for you, and the 2X indicates it has two separate channels (ie it replaces two Talons). However, they are also harder to set up (you have to set the dip switches to tell it what mode you want) and somewhat temperamental in disposition. On Sat, Apr 5, 2014 at 1:48 PM, neroc1 funkyne...@ntlworld.com wrote: lotus7 ,I cant help thinking our paths have crossed before. first of all welcome on board. If i was to buy myself a new speed controller , Id follow the advice off the fellers in Maryland, they tend to use an esc called the talon - https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=trct=jq=esrc=ssource=webcd=1cad=rjauact=8ved=0CDEQFjAAurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.andymark.com%2FTalon-p%2Fam-2505.htmei=s0BAU6eVIcmwhAe1yoGwAgusg=AFQjCNGi9rBgSJVxMcz1C1Z6xKI4rUkzTgsig2=VVVEtAJZDMyzTQZt-8WhxQbvm=bv.64125504,d.ZG4 You will need two of them + a channel mixer of some kind. Even thought I would need pay to ship them out to the UK, I think they are the best for our usage at the moment. Good luck Neil R -- -- You are currently subscribed to the R/C Tank Combat group. To post a message, send email to rctankcombat@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe, send email to rctankcombat+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com Visit the group at http://groups.google.com/group/rctankcombat --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups R/C Tank Combat group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rctankcombat+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Isaac Goldman 5142334423 This message contains confidential information and is intended only for the individual named. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. -- -- You are currently subscribed to the R/C Tank Combat group. To post a message, send email to rctankcombat@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe, send email to rctankcombat+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com Visit the group at http://groups.google.com/group/rctankcombat --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups R/C Tank Combat group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rctankcombat+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [TANKS] Re: new to the hobby(but not to tank building)
Oops slight mistake there, I would suggest the 2X25, as for 130$ you get basically your drop-in solution for motor drive, with both channels and mixing. Be aware 25 amps goes fast though... On Sat, Apr 5, 2014 at 3:03 PM, isaac goldman panthergol...@gmail.comwrote: The Talon itself is a grade A product; we just had First robotics the weekend before last, they worked great. No troubles at all. Assuming a low-ish 40 amps works for you, they were almost everything I could ask for. Having said that, they are only available from Andymark to my knowledge, a website that charges horrible shipping rates (see for yourself; they really are atrocious). One alternative is the Sabertooth line of motor controllers (you would probably want either the 2X25 or 2X60. Id say 2X60). It has built in mixing as an option, which may be a huge plus for you, and the 2X indicates it has two separate channels (ie it replaces two Talons). However, they are also harder to set up (you have to set the dip switches to tell it what mode you want) and somewhat temperamental in disposition. On Sat, Apr 5, 2014 at 1:48 PM, neroc1 funkyne...@ntlworld.com wrote: lotus7 ,I cant help thinking our paths have crossed before. first of all welcome on board. If i was to buy myself a new speed controller , Id follow the advice off the fellers in Maryland, they tend to use an esc called the talon - https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=trct=jq=esrc=ssource=webcd=1cad=rjauact=8ved=0CDEQFjAAurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.andymark.com%2FTalon-p%2Fam-2505.htmei=s0BAU6eVIcmwhAe1yoGwAgusg=AFQjCNGi9rBgSJVxMcz1C1Z6xKI4rUkzTgsig2=VVVEtAJZDMyzTQZt-8WhxQbvm=bv.64125504,d.ZG4 You will need two of them + a channel mixer of some kind. Even thought I would need pay to ship them out to the UK, I think they are the best for our usage at the moment. Good luck Neil R -- -- You are currently subscribed to the R/C Tank Combat group. To post a message, send email to rctankcombat@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe, send email to rctankcombat+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com Visit the group at http://groups.google.com/group/rctankcombat --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups R/C Tank Combat group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rctankcombat+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Isaac Goldman 5142334423 This message contains confidential information and is intended only for the individual named. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. -- Isaac Goldman 5142334423 This message contains confidential information and is intended only for the individual named. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. -- -- You are currently subscribed to the R/C Tank Combat group. To post a message, send email to rctankcombat@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe, send email to rctankcombat+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com Visit the group at http://groups.google.com/group/rctankcombat --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups R/C Tank Combat group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rctankcombat+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[TANKS] Re: new to the hobby(but not to tank building)
Thanks for the help guys, Truenorth-any chance you are from Canada? Ok-so I can get 2 Talon SDs from AndyMark but where can I get the Sabertooth 2x60 from? thanks On Friday, April 4, 2014 2:35:17 PM UTC-4, lotus7 wrote: Hi everyone, just joined and have alot of reading to do! Have started building my 1/6th ish scale T34/85.Got a second hand rc system and my motors are two 24volt 350watt gear reduction model MY101. If I may ask a few questions(prior to my searching the forum)? 1.Anyone sell motor controllers for variable speed operation? (would rather not go maryland attack group control with relays and stop/go control)but I would need a ready to use set up as my electronic skills are not the best 2.Anyone sell sprocket size #35- tooth drive sprockets to replace MY101 motors 9 tooth #410 sprocket? (worst case I can buy 2 #35,9 tooth 3/8 bore and take then to a machine shop for bore to be corrected and keyway cut. 3.How bad is it to install the motors end to end? i realize there is a small difference in rpms when you have one motor reversed compared to the other thanks in advance, -- -- You are currently subscribed to the R/C Tank Combat group. To post a message, send email to rctankcombat@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe, send email to rctankcombat+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com Visit the group at http://groups.google.com/group/rctankcombat --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups R/C Tank Combat group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rctankcombat+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[TANKS] Re: new to the hobby(but not to tank building)
I have used/battled Sabertooth 2 x 25 for some years, I would not buy another one, they just dont last on anything bigger than kiddie car motors, I now have a 2 x 60 in my Marder (T068) no problems up to now. Your other question concerning the small difference in rpms when you have one motor reversed compared to the other is tiny and not a problem, If even noticed it can be trimmed out on your transmitter. Neil R -- -- You are currently subscribed to the R/C Tank Combat group. To post a message, send email to rctankcombat@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe, send email to rctankcombat+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com Visit the group at http://groups.google.com/group/rctankcombat --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups R/C Tank Combat group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rctankcombat+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [TANKS] Re: new to the hobby(but not to tank building)
^^ That sort of sums up my relationship with the Sabertooth; I liked that it did all the mixing for me and had plenty of options (brake/coast, linear/exp, regen etc) though. Yes im from Canada; Montreal to be exact. You can get a sabertooth at robotshop http://www.robotshop.com/ca/en/sabertooth-dual-motor-driver.html The price is ~200$ but remember it has the mixer and a BEC built in, and can output 33% more power than a Talon. Not that im denigrating the Talon, just pointing out what the extra money gets you. As an aside though, I do my mixing in software (onboard micro-controller or three) so I cant say what is and isnt a good mixer or how much one costs... On Sat, Apr 5, 2014 at 5:24 PM, neroc1 funkyne...@ntlworld.com wrote: I have used/battled Sabertooth 2 x 25 for some years, I would not buy another one, they just dont last on anything bigger than kiddie car motors, I now have a 2 x 60 in my Marder (T068) no problems up to now. Your other question concerning the small difference in rpms when you have one motor reversed compared to the other is tiny and not a problem, If even noticed it can be trimmed out on your transmitter. Neil R -- -- You are currently subscribed to the R/C Tank Combat group. To post a message, send email to rctankcombat@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe, send email to rctankcombat+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com Visit the group at http://groups.google.com/group/rctankcombat --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups R/C Tank Combat group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rctankcombat+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Isaac Goldman 5142334423 This message contains confidential information and is intended only for the individual named. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. -- -- You are currently subscribed to the R/C Tank Combat group. To post a message, send email to rctankcombat@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe, send email to rctankcombat+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com Visit the group at http://groups.google.com/group/rctankcombat --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups R/C Tank Combat group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rctankcombat+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[TANKS] Re: new to the hobby(but not to tank building)
I might have 2 sprockets for you. We cut a few extra a while back. Let me see if I can locate them for you. John parts supplier to the world lol ' P. On Friday, April 4, 2014 2:35:17 PM UTC-4, lotus7 wrote: Hi everyone, just joined and have alot of reading to do! Have started building my 1/6th ish scale T34/85.Got a second hand rc system and my motors are two 24volt 350watt gear reduction model MY101. If I may ask a few questions(prior to my searching the forum)? 1.Anyone sell motor controllers for variable speed operation? (would rather not go maryland attack group control with relays and stop/go control)but I would need a ready to use set up as my electronic skills are not the best 2.Anyone sell sprocket size #35- tooth drive sprockets to replace MY101 motors 9 tooth #410 sprocket? (worst case I can buy 2 #35,9 tooth 3/8 bore and take then to a machine shop for bore to be corrected and keyway cut. 3.How bad is it to install the motors end to end? i realize there is a small difference in rpms when you have one motor reversed compared to the other thanks in advance, -- -- You are currently subscribed to the R/C Tank Combat group. To post a message, send email to rctankcombat@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe, send email to rctankcombat+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com Visit the group at http://groups.google.com/group/rctankcombat --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups R/C Tank Combat group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rctankcombat+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [TANKS] Re: New to the hobby, suspension questions
i think 3/4 travel is a good amount of travel (depending on the size of things) Chris, _Odyssey Slipways_ (http://hometown.aol.com/odysseyslipways/index.html) -- You are currently subscribed to the R/C Tank Combat group. To post a message, send email to rctankcombat@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe, send email to rctankcombat-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com Visit the group at http://groups.google.com/group/rctankcombat
[TANKS] Re: New to the hobby, suspension questions
How much travel should I be looking for with my system. I kinda figured out one way to get about 3/4 of travel by replicating the actual Sherman's HVSS, but will that be enough? Aaron T0?? -- You are currently subscribed to the R/C Tank Combat group. To post a message, send email to rctankcombat@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe, send email to rctankcombat-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com Visit the group at http://groups.google.com/group/rctankcombat To unsubscribe, reply using remove me as the subject.
[TANKS] Re: new to the hobby, need motors
How many amp hours are most tanks running with thier batteries? Will 12 or 18 be enough, or do i need more. If so how much more. I would think running just 2 smaller batts would do until they run dry and then replace them with another fresh set some time durring the battle. Aaron T0?? -- You are currently subscribed to the R/C Tank Combat group. To post a message, send email to rctankcombat@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe, send email to rctankcombat-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com Visit the group at http://groups.google.com/group/rctankcombat To unsubscribe, reply using remove me as the subject.
[TANKS] Re: new to the hobby, need motors
Hi Chris, Myself and Garnet picked up 4 powered wheelchairs for dirt cheap, like $25CDN each so I am adapting the motor controller joystick to run the M01 24v motors. Cheapest, most robust ESC I've ever seen. I'll post pictures when complete. Cheers, Fred -- You are currently subscribed to the R/C Tank Combat group. To post a message, send email to rctankcombat@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe, send email to rctankcombat-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com Visit the group at http://groups.google.com/group/rctankcombat To unsubscribe, reply using remove me as the subject.
[TANKS] Re: new to the hobby, need motors
Hi Chris, I was using a TriPac speed controller (basic on/off). I'm busy converting it to a proportional speed controller. Cheers, Fred where running it at full speed - are you using a basic off on controller or a variable speed controller? looks like a fairly large tank you have there Chris, _Odyssey Slipways_ (http://hometown.aol.com/odysseyslipways/index.html) -- You are currently subscribed to the R/C Tank Combat group. To post a message, send email to rctankcombat@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe, send email to rctankcombat-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com Visit the group at http://groups.google.com/group/rctankcombat To unsubscribe, reply using remove me as the subject.
[TANKS] Re: new to the hobby, need motors
Hi Aaron, I'm using two SBS60 12v 51ah SLA deep cycle batteries. Which accounts for almost half (2 x 40lbs) of the Bulldog's weight. Cheers, Fred -- You are currently subscribed to the R/C Tank Combat group. To post a message, send email to rctankcombat@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe, send email to rctankcombat-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com Visit the group at http://groups.google.com/group/rctankcombat To unsubscribe, reply using remove me as the subject.
[TANKS] Re: new to the hobby, need motors
So, if 2 12v 18ah bats wired in series doubles volts but not amps, and wired parallel doubles amps but not volts, would 2 sets of parallel bats producing 12v and 36ah wired in series produce 24v and 36ah? Aaron T0?? -- You are currently subscribed to the R/C Tank Combat group. To post a message, send email to rctankcombat@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe, send email to rctankcombat-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com Visit the group at http://groups.google.com/group/rctankcombat To unsubscribe, reply using remove me as the subject.
Re: [TANKS] Re: new to the hobby, need motors
Yes, but that's A LOT of weight if you are using sealed lead acid batteries. Derek T065 SV016 On Fri, Apr 2, 2010 at 11:05 AM, Cobra9431 afreem...@live.com wrote: So, if 2 12v 18ah bats wired in series doubles volts but not amps, and wired parallel doubles amps but not volts, would 2 sets of parallel bats producing 12v and 36ah wired in series produce 24v and 36ah? Aaron T0?? -- You are currently subscribed to the R/C Tank Combat group. To post a message, send email to rctankcombat@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe, send email to rctankcombat-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com Visit the group at http://groups.google.com/group/rctankcombat To unsubscribe, reply using remove me as the subject. -- You are currently subscribed to the R/C Tank Combat group. To post a message, send email to rctankcombat@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe, send email to rctankcombat-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com Visit the group at http://groups.google.com/group/rctankcombat
[TANKS] Re: new to the hobby, need motors
Hi Aaron, Here's a link to a photo of my Bulldog climbing up a gravel pile: http://www.rctankcombat.com/tanks/T064/060-large.jpg It keep going till it ran out of traction then spun the tracks and dug itself in. As I said, no shortage of torque in the MY1 motors. Cheers, Fred -- You are currently subscribed to the R/C Tank Combat group. To post a message, send email to rctankcombat@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe, send email to rctankcombat-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com Visit the group at http://groups.google.com/group/rctankcombat To unsubscribe, reply using remove me as the subject.
Re: [TANKS] Re: new to the hobby, need motors
In a message dated 4/1/2010 10:57:39 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, f...@thomson-online.org writes: It keep going till it ran out of traction then spun the tracks and dug itself in. As I said, no shortage of torque in the MY1 motors. Cheers, Fred where running it at full speed - are you using a basic off on controller or a variable speed controller? looks like a fairly large tank you have there Chris, _Odyssey Slipways_ (http://hometown.aol.com/odysseyslipways/index.html) -- You are currently subscribed to the R/C Tank Combat group. To post a message, send email to rctankcombat@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe, send email to rctankcombat-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com Visit the group at http://groups.google.com/group/rctankcombat To unsubscribe, reply using remove me as the subject.
[TANKS] Re: New to the hobby, suspension questions
Remember that although the simple pivot system may help to keep your tracks in contact with the ground it won't cushion the ride in an way. The tank hull will still feel every bump! For what it's worth, I'd recommend incorporating a fully sprung suspension if you have the room and you can make it robust. There are few things more satisfying than watching your new tank's suspension float over rough terrain. . . On Apr 1, 2:07 am, Cobra9431 afreem...@live.com wrote: Hey there, I know you heard from me on the motor issue, but here I am with more. I have seen all the different suspension set ups and am deciding on what route I will take with mine. Obviously I have a space crisis in my hull and independent isn't the most practical choice. I was wondering if the Pivot type system is just as efective as independent. I think the hard mounted wheels is asking for a load of trouble, and thus I wish to avoid foregoing suspension. Does anyone have any sage advice in the matter of the differing options? Aaron T0?? -- You are currently subscribed to the R/C Tank Combat group. To post a message, send email to rctankcombat@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe, send email to rctankcombat-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com Visit the group at http://groups.google.com/group/rctankcombat To unsubscribe, reply using remove me as the subject.
[TANKS] Re: new to the hobby, need motors
What kind of battery set up would/do you use to power a pair of 24v 450w 24amp 3000rpm motors? I notice most use a pair of batteries. Is that pretty much an unavoidable thing or does it just work better that way? Aaron T0?? -- You are currently subscribed to the R/C Tank Combat group. To post a message, send email to rctankcombat@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe, send email to rctankcombat-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com Visit the group at http://groups.google.com/group/rctankcombat To unsubscribe, reply using remove me as the subject.
Re: [TANKS] Re: new to the hobby, need motors
I haven't seen 24v cells before.. You probably need a pair of 12v cells connected together, or at least that would be the most common battery. —Mike M Message sent by way of mobile device On Apr 1, 2010, at 9:34 PM, Cobra9431 afreem...@live.com wrote: What kind of battery set up would/do you use to power a pair of 24v 450w 24amp 3000rpm motors? I notice most use a pair of batteries. Is that pretty much an unavoidable thing or does it just work better that way? Aaron T0?? -- You are currently subscribed to the R/C Tank Combat group. To post a message, send email to rctankcombat@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe, send email to rctankcombat- unsubscr...@googlegroups.com Visit the group at http://groups.google.com/group/rctankcombat To unsubscribe, reply using remove me as the subject. -- You are currently subscribed to the R/C Tank Combat group. To post a message, send email to rctankcombat@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe, send email to rctankcombat-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com Visit the group at http://groups.google.com/group/rctankcombat
Re: [TANKS] Re: new to the hobby, need motors
They do make 24V cells, but they are usually quite expensive. That's the primary reason most of us use two 12V batteries wired in series. Two 12V 18Ah batteries wired in series produces 24V at 18Ah. If those same cells were wired in parallel, you would get 12V at 36Ah Derek T065 SV016 On Thu, Apr 1, 2010 at 10:04 PM, Mike Mane mike082...@gmail.com wrote: I haven't seen 24v cells before.. You probably need a pair of 12v cells connected together, or at least that would be the most common battery. —Mike M Message sent by way of mobile device On Apr 1, 2010, at 9:34 PM, Cobra9431 afreem...@live.com wrote: What kind of battery set up would/do you use to power a pair of 24v 450w 24amp 3000rpm motors? I notice most use a pair of batteries. Is that pretty much an unavoidable thing or does it just work better that way? Aaron T0?? -- You are currently subscribed to the R/C Tank Combat group. To post a message, send email to rctankcombat@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe, send email to rctankcombat-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com Visit the group at http://groups.google.com/group/rctankcombat To unsubscribe, reply using remove me as the subject. -- You are currently subscribed to the R/C Tank Combat group. To post a message, send email to rctankcombat@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe, send email to rctankcombat-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com Visit the group at http://groups.google.com/group/rctankcombat -- You are currently subscribed to the R/C Tank Combat group. To post a message, send email to rctankcombat@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe, send email to rctankcombat-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com Visit the group at http://groups.google.com/group/rctankcombat
[TANKS] Re: new to the hobby, need motors
Ok guys, since we're on the topic of motors, I have a couple of questions. - A geared motor of 3000 rpms with a ratio of 79:11 would give you a final drive rpm of 417, is that right? - Can you get a motor (other than wheel chair motor) that have an electric brake? Or is there a seperate product that can be used to achieve this? Thanks for any help. Greg On Mar 30, 9:44 pm, Mark_123522 gatlinggunm...@sbcglobal.net wrote: Aaron: Look over these motors:http://www.electricscooterparts.com/motors.html#top item # MOT-24250G I a using the 450watt version of this motor. I think, If you look around, you can find these for less $$: http://tncscooters.com/partsdb.php?class_type=Motor%20Parts Mark On Mar 30, 7:08 pm, Cobra9431 afreem...@live.com wrote: I'm new to the hobby but have already started building an M4A3E8 Sherman, 2 actualy. My interior space is limited as I scaled down my plans to be exactly 3 feet long leaving me with only 91/2'' of interior width for my motors. Do you know of any 24v motors than will not require to be geared down. How about what is the best over all motor to be used in this hobby's experience? Any feed back will be great. Thanks. Aaron Freeman Near Las Vegas, NV- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - -- You are currently subscribed to the R/C Tank Combat group. To post a message, send email to rctankcombat@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe, send email to rctankcombat-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com Visit the group at http://groups.google.com/group/rctankcombat To unsubscribe, reply using remove me as the subject.
[TANKS] Re: new to the hobby, need motors
Hi Aaron, I'm using the MY1016Z3 24v motors in my Bulldog (T064). It tips the scales at a rather porky 200lbs and the motors have power to spare. Hi Greg, I've never seen an 'add-on' electric brake. That doesn't mean they don't exist, just that I've never seen them. :-) Best bet would be to scrounge a pair from a set of wheelchair motors and adapt the accordingly. Cheers, Fred -- You are currently subscribed to the R/C Tank Combat group. To post a message, send email to rctankcombat@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe, send email to rctankcombat-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com Visit the group at http://groups.google.com/group/rctankcombat To unsubscribe, reply using remove me as the subject.
[TANKS] Re: new to the hobby, need motors
Hi Fred, I never heard of anthing like that either , but thought it was worth asking. I think your right, wheel chair motors may be the only way. It's just that they are harder to get and usally expensive. Thanks Greg On Mar 31, 1:04 pm, Fred Thomson f...@thomson-online.org wrote: Hi Aaron, I'm using the MY1016Z3 24v motors in my Bulldog (T064). It tips the scales at a rather porky 200lbs and the motors have power to spare. Hi Greg, I've never seen an 'add-on' electric brake. That doesn't mean they don't exist, just that I've never seen them. :-) Best bet would be to scrounge a pair from a set of wheelchair motors and adapt the accordingly. Cheers, Fred -- You are currently subscribed to the R/C Tank Combat group. To post a message, send email to rctankcombat@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe, send email to rctankcombat-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com Visit the group at http://groups.google.com/group/rctankcombat To unsubscribe, reply using remove me as the subject.
[TANKS] Re: new to the hobby, need motors
So, is 400 about the ballpark that should be aiming at for a final dive rpm ? Aaron T0?? On Mar 30, 8:13 pm, Derek Engelhaupt tan...@gmail.com wrote: Most definitely running at 24V I'm using the same ones Mark is using in my KV-2 also which will be in the 110-130lbs. range. If you wanted to gear them down a little, use a larger than 9 tooth sprocket on the final drives. You can see the basic speed of the motors here:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d7dfrddGMOI Bear in mind that it will be somewhat slower since my M113 only weighs in at about 50lbs. in that vid. Derek T065 -- You are currently subscribed to the R/C Tank Combat group. To post a message, send email to rctankcombat@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe, send email to rctankcombat-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com Visit the group at http://groups.google.com/group/rctankcombat To unsubscribe, reply using remove me as the subject.
RE: [TANKS] Re: new to the hobby, need motors
Victor ESC's have an electronic brake feature, switchable on/off by a small jumper. I think most people (including me) have left it turned off as it seems to be rather a violent stop from 5+mph, and these tanks typically have enough weight and rolling resistance to stop themselves. 300-400 should be fine for your final motor drive. If by final drive you are referring to track sprocket rpm, then it might be a bit high depending on how big your track sprocket is. If you have a 4 track sprocket, that is a circumference of (rounded) 12, with a an RPM of 400 on this sprocket that is about 4.7mph The way I build is to sort out my track sprocket and the speed I want to achieve, and work back from there with motor/drive sprockets to suit. So geared motor output speed of 300-400 is in the ball park, and you can fine tune with the sprocket on your driveshaft if necessary. Ben -Original Message- From: rctankcombat@googlegroups.com [mailto:rctankcom...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Cobra9431 Sent: Thursday, 1 April 2010 8:19 AM To: R/C Tank Combat Subject: [TANKS] Re: new to the hobby, need motors So, is 400 about the ballpark that should be aiming at for a final dive rpm ? Aaron T0?? On Mar 30, 8:13 pm, Derek Engelhaupt tan...@gmail.com wrote: Most definitely running at 24V I'm using the same ones Mark is using in my KV-2 also which will be in the 110-130lbs. range. If you wanted to gear them down a little, use a larger than 9 tooth sprocket on the final drives. You can see the basic speed of the motors here:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d7dfrddGMOI Bear in mind that it will be somewhat slower since my M113 only weighs in at about 50lbs. in that vid. Derek T065 -- You are currently subscribed to the R/C Tank Combat group. To post a message, send email to rctankcombat@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe, send email to rctankcombat-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com Visit the group at http://groups.google.com/group/rctankcombat To unsubscribe, reply using remove me as the subject. -- You are currently subscribed to the R/C Tank Combat group. To post a message, send email to rctankcombat@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe, send email to rctankcombat-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com Visit the group at http://groups.google.com/group/rctankcombat
Re: [TANKS] Re: new to the hobby, need motors
Joe's rule of 4's I recommend the *Rule* of *Fours* 4 inch DIA drive sprockets 400 rpm no load speed at each drive sprocket 400 in.lbf stall torque at each drive sprocket 4 mph with sufficient torque for full-skid steer I use Victor ESC's and have the brake function disabled. It's not needed as Ben pointed out. My tanks stop on their own due to rolling resistance. I have never built a tank and actually calculated the final speed. All of the motors I've used have been in the 400RPM range so whatever speed comes out in the end, so be it. Derek T065 On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 5:08 PM, Ben Holko b...@holnet.net wrote: Victor ESC's have an electronic brake feature, switchable on/off by a small jumper. I think most people (including me) have left it turned off as it seems to be rather a violent stop from 5+mph, and these tanks typically have enough weight and rolling resistance to stop themselves. 300-400 should be fine for your final motor drive. If by final drive you are referring to track sprocket rpm, then it might be a bit high depending on how big your track sprocket is. If you have a 4 track sprocket, that is a circumference of (rounded) 12, with a an RPM of 400 on this sprocket that is about 4.7mph The way I build is to sort out my track sprocket and the speed I want to achieve, and work back from there with motor/drive sprockets to suit. So geared motor output speed of 300-400 is in the ball park, and you can fine tune with the sprocket on your driveshaft if necessary. Ben -Original Message- From: rctankcombat@googlegroups.com [mailto:rctankcom...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Cobra9431 Sent: Thursday, 1 April 2010 8:19 AM To: R/C Tank Combat Subject: [TANKS] Re: new to the hobby, need motors So, is 400 about the ballpark that should be aiming at for a final dive rpm ? Aaron T0?? On Mar 30, 8:13 pm, Derek Engelhaupt tan...@gmail.com wrote: Most definitely running at 24V I'm using the same ones Mark is using in my KV-2 also which will be in the 110-130lbs. range. If you wanted to gear them down a little, use a larger than 9 tooth sprocket on the final drives. You can see the basic speed of the motors here:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d7dfrddGMOI Bear in mind that it will be somewhat slower since my M113 only weighs in at about 50lbs. in that vid. Derek T065 -- You are currently subscribed to the R/C Tank Combat group. To post a message, send email to rctankcombat@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe, send email to rctankcombat-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com Visit the group at http://groups.google.com/group/rctankcombat To unsubscribe, reply using remove me as the subject. -- You are currently subscribed to the R/C Tank Combat group. To post a message, send email to rctankcombat@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe, send email to rctankcombat-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com Visit the group at http://groups.google.com/group/rctankcombat -- You are currently subscribed to the R/C Tank Combat group. To post a message, send email to rctankcombat@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe, send email to rctankcombat-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com Visit the group at http://groups.google.com/group/rctankcombat
[TANKS] Re: new to the hobby, need motors
Thanks, this all helps. I dont have much room inside to have an elabrate system of sprockets and wheels to gear everything down. I do want a high speed tank to compliment one of the few truely superb points of the WWII Sherman, it was generaly faster than any Gerry or Ivan unit. But I dont want to give up climbing power for hills or tall brush. Anyways, like I said, Thanks. Aaron T0?? On Mar 31, 4:32 pm, Derek Engelhaupt tan...@gmail.com wrote: Joe's rule of 4's I recommend the *Rule* of *Fours* 4 inch DIA drive sprockets 400 rpm no load speed at each drive sprocket 400 in.lbf stall torque at each drive sprocket 4 mph with sufficient torque for full-skid steer I use Victor ESC's and have the brake function disabled. It's not needed as Ben pointed out. My tanks stop on their own due to rolling resistance. I have never built a tank and actually calculated the final speed. All of the motors I've used have been in the 400RPM range so whatever speed comes out in the end, so be it. Derek T065 On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 5:08 PM, Ben Holko b...@holnet.net wrote: Victor ESC's have an electronic brake feature, switchable on/off by a small jumper. I think most people (including me) have left it turned off as it seems to be rather a violent stop from 5+mph, and these tanks typically have enough weight and rolling resistance to stop themselves. 300-400 should be fine for your final motor drive. If by final drive you are referring to track sprocket rpm, then it might be a bit high depending on how big your track sprocket is. If you have a 4 track sprocket, that is a circumference of (rounded) 12, with a an RPM of 400 on this sprocket that is about 4.7mph The way I build is to sort out my track sprocket and the speed I want to achieve, and work back from there with motor/drive sprockets to suit. So geared motor output speed of 300-400 is in the ball park, and you can fine tune with the sprocket on your driveshaft if necessary. Ben -Original Message- From: rctankcombat@googlegroups.com [mailto:rctankcom...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Cobra9431 Sent: Thursday, 1 April 2010 8:19 AM To: R/C Tank Combat Subject: [TANKS] Re: new to the hobby, need motors So, is 400 about the ballpark that should be aiming at for a final dive rpm ? Aaron T0?? On Mar 30, 8:13 pm, Derek Engelhaupt tan...@gmail.com wrote: Most definitely running at 24V I'm using the same ones Mark is using in my KV-2 also which will be in the 110-130lbs. range. If you wanted to gear them down a little, use a larger than 9 tooth sprocket on the final drives. You can see the basic speed of the motors here:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d7dfrddGMOIBear in mind that it will be somewhat slower since my M113 only weighs in at about 50lbs. in that vid. Derek T065 -- You are currently subscribed to the R/C Tank Combat group. To post a message, send email to rctankcombat@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe, send email to rctankcombat-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com Visit the group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rctankcombat To unsubscribe, reply using remove me as the subject. -- You are currently subscribed to the R/C Tank Combat group. To post a message, send email to rctankcombat@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe, send email to rctankcombat-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com Visit the group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rctankcombat- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - -- You are currently subscribed to the R/C Tank Combat group. To post a message, send email to rctankcombat@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe, send email to rctankcombat-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com Visit the group at http://groups.google.com/group/rctankcombat
Re: [TANKS] Re: new to the hobby, need motors
You would have no issues with climbing with those motors and no further reduction. Derek T065 On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 6:51 PM, Cobra9431 afreem...@live.com wrote: Thanks, this all helps. I dont have much room inside to have an elabrate system of sprockets and wheels to gear everything down. I do want a high speed tank to compliment one of the few truely superb points of the WWII Sherman, it was generaly faster than any Gerry or Ivan unit. But I dont want to give up climbing power for hills or tall brush. Anyways, like I said, Thanks. Aaron T0?? On Mar 31, 4:32 pm, Derek Engelhaupt tan...@gmail.com wrote: Joe's rule of 4's I recommend the *Rule* of *Fours* 4 inch DIA drive sprockets 400 rpm no load speed at each drive sprocket 400 in.lbf stall torque at each drive sprocket 4 mph with sufficient torque for full-skid steer I use Victor ESC's and have the brake function disabled. It's not needed as Ben pointed out. My tanks stop on their own due to rolling resistance. I have never built a tank and actually calculated the final speed. All of the motors I've used have been in the 400RPM range so whatever speed comes out in the end, so be it. Derek T065 On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 5:08 PM, Ben Holko b...@holnet.net wrote: Victor ESC's have an electronic brake feature, switchable on/off by a small jumper. I think most people (including me) have left it turned off as it seems to be rather a violent stop from 5+mph, and these tanks typically have enough weight and rolling resistance to stop themselves. 300-400 should be fine for your final motor drive. If by final drive you are referring to track sprocket rpm, then it might be a bit high depending on how big your track sprocket is. If you have a 4 track sprocket, that is a circumference of (rounded) 12, with a an RPM of 400 on this sprocket that is about 4.7mph The way I build is to sort out my track sprocket and the speed I want to achieve, and work back from there with motor/drive sprockets to suit. So geared motor output speed of 300-400 is in the ball park, and you can fine tune with the sprocket on your driveshaft if necessary. Ben -Original Message- From: rctankcombat@googlegroups.com [mailto: rctankcom...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Cobra9431 Sent: Thursday, 1 April 2010 8:19 AM To: R/C Tank Combat Subject: [TANKS] Re: new to the hobby, need motors So, is 400 about the ballpark that should be aiming at for a final dive rpm ? Aaron T0?? On Mar 30, 8:13 pm, Derek Engelhaupt tan...@gmail.com wrote: Most definitely running at 24V I'm using the same ones Mark is using in my KV-2 also which will be in the 110-130lbs. range. If you wanted to gear them down a little, use a larger than 9 tooth sprocket on the final drives. You can see the basic speed of the motors here:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d7dfrddGMOIBear in mind that it will be somewhat slower since my M113 only weighs in at about 50lbs. in that vid. Derek T065 -- You are currently subscribed to the R/C Tank Combat group. To post a message, send email to rctankcombat@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe, send email to rctankcombat-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com Visit the group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rctankcombat To unsubscribe, reply using remove me as the subject. -- You are currently subscribed to the R/C Tank Combat group. To post a message, send email to rctankcombat@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe, send email to rctankcombat-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com Visit the group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rctankcombat- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - -- You are currently subscribed to the R/C Tank Combat group. To post a message, send email to rctankcombat@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe, send email to rctankcombat-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com Visit the group at http://groups.google.com/group/rctankcombat -- You are currently subscribed to the R/C Tank Combat group. To post a message, send email to rctankcombat@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe, send email to rctankcombat-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com Visit the group at http://groups.google.com/group/rctankcombat
RE: [TANKS] Re: new to the hobby, need motors
With these motors and 4-5mph, you will not have a problem with climbing. I have 350w 24v in T067 with about 5mph, and there is heaps of torque, and it weighs about 200lbs. Ben -Original Message- From: rctankcombat@googlegroups.com [mailto:rctankcom...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Cobra9431 Sent: Thursday, 1 April 2010 10:52 AM To: R/C Tank Combat Subject: [TANKS] Re: new to the hobby, need motors Thanks, this all helps. I dont have much room inside to have an elabrate system of sprockets and wheels to gear everything down. I do want a high speed tank to compliment one of the few truely superb points of the WWII Sherman, it was generaly faster than any Gerry or Ivan unit. But I dont want to give up climbing power for hills or tall brush. Anyways, like I said, Thanks. Aaron T0?? On Mar 31, 4:32 pm, Derek Engelhaupt tan...@gmail.com wrote: Joe's rule of 4's I recommend the *Rule* of *Fours* 4 inch DIA drive sprockets 400 rpm no load speed at each drive sprocket 400 in.lbf stall torque at each drive sprocket 4 mph with sufficient torque for full-skid steer I use Victor ESC's and have the brake function disabled. It's not needed as Ben pointed out. My tanks stop on their own due to rolling resistance. I have never built a tank and actually calculated the final speed. All of the motors I've used have been in the 400RPM range so whatever speed comes out in the end, so be it. Derek T065 On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 5:08 PM, Ben Holko b...@holnet.net wrote: Victor ESC's have an electronic brake feature, switchable on/off by a small jumper. I think most people (including me) have left it turned off as it seems to be rather a violent stop from 5+mph, and these tanks typically have enough weight and rolling resistance to stop themselves. 300-400 should be fine for your final motor drive. If by final drive you are referring to track sprocket rpm, then it might be a bit high depending on how big your track sprocket is. If you have a 4 track sprocket, that is a circumference of (rounded) 12, with a an RPM of 400 on this sprocket that is about 4.7mph The way I build is to sort out my track sprocket and the speed I want to achieve, and work back from there with motor/drive sprockets to suit. So geared motor output speed of 300-400 is in the ball park, and you can fine tune with the sprocket on your driveshaft if necessary. Ben -Original Message- From: rctankcombat@googlegroups.com [mailto:rctankcom...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Cobra9431 Sent: Thursday, 1 April 2010 8:19 AM To: R/C Tank Combat Subject: [TANKS] Re: new to the hobby, need motors So, is 400 about the ballpark that should be aiming at for a final dive rpm ? Aaron T0?? On Mar 30, 8:13 pm, Derek Engelhaupt tan...@gmail.com wrote: Most definitely running at 24V I'm using the same ones Mark is using in my KV-2 also which will be in the 110-130lbs. range. If you wanted to gear them down a little, use a larger than 9 tooth sprocket on the final drives. You can see the basic speed of the motors here:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d7dfrddGMOIBear in mind that it will be somewhat slower since my M113 only weighs in at about 50lbs. in that vid. Derek T065 -- You are currently subscribed to the R/C Tank Combat group. To post a message, send email to rctankcombat@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe, send email to rctankcombat-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com Visit the group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rctankcombat To unsubscribe, reply using remove me as the subject. -- You are currently subscribed to the R/C Tank Combat group. To post a message, send email to rctankcombat@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe, send email to rctankcombat-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com Visit the group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rctankcombat- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - -- You are currently subscribed to the R/C Tank Combat group. To post a message, send email to rctankcombat@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe, send email to rctankcombat-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com Visit the group at http://groups.google.com/group/rctankcombat -- You are currently subscribed to the R/C Tank Combat group. To post a message, send email to rctankcombat@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe, send email to rctankcombat-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com Visit the group at http://groups.google.com/group/rctankcombat
[TANKS] Re: new to the hobby, need motors
Aaron: Look over these motors: http://www.electricscooterparts.com/motors.html#top item # MOT-24250G I a using the 450watt version of this motor. I think, If you look around, you can find these for less $$: http://tncscooters.com/partsdb.php?class_type=Motor%20Parts Mark On Mar 30, 7:08 pm, Cobra9431 afreem...@live.com wrote: I'm new to the hobby but have already started building an M4A3E8 Sherman, 2 actualy. My interior space is limited as I scaled down my plans to be exactly 3 feet long leaving me with only 91/2'' of interior width for my motors. Do you know of any 24v motors than will not require to be geared down. How about what is the best over all motor to be used in this hobby's experience? Any feed back will be great. Thanks. Aaron Freeman Near Las Vegas, NV -- You are currently subscribed to the R/C Tank Combat group. To post a message, send email to rctankcombat@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe, send email to rctankcombat-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com Visit the group at http://groups.google.com/group/rctankcombat To unsubscribe, reply using remove me as the subject.
[TANKS] Re: new to the hobby, need motors
Aaron: This is how I mounted my motors: http://i192.photobucket.com/albums/z65/mm123521/HPIM0753.jpg http://i192.photobucket.com/albums/z65/mm123521/HPIM0771.jpg http://i192.photobucket.com/albums/z65/mm123521/HPIM0755.jpg http://i192.photobucket.com/albums/z65/mm123521/HPIM0772.jpg Mark On Mar 30, 7:08 pm, Cobra9431 afreem...@live.com wrote: I'm new to the hobby but have already started building an M4A3E8 Sherman, 2 actualy. My interior space is limited as I scaled down my plans to be exactly 3 feet long leaving me with only 91/2'' of interior width for my motors. Do you know of any 24v motors than will not require to be geared down. How about what is the best over all motor to be used in this hobby's experience? Any feed back will be great. Thanks. Aaron Freeman Near Las Vegas, NV -- You are currently subscribed to the R/C Tank Combat group. To post a message, send email to rctankcombat@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe, send email to rctankcombat-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com Visit the group at http://groups.google.com/group/rctankcombat To unsubscribe, reply using remove me as the subject.
Re: [TANKS] Re: new to the hobby, need motors
If you mounted them that way, they would definitely fit. Derek T065 On Tue, Mar 30, 2010 at 7:56 PM, Mark_123522 gatlinggunm...@sbcglobal.netwrote: Aaron: This is how I mounted my motors: http://i192.photobucket.com/albums/z65/mm123521/HPIM0753.jpg http://i192.photobucket.com/albums/z65/mm123521/HPIM0771.jpg http://i192.photobucket.com/albums/z65/mm123521/HPIM0755.jpg http://i192.photobucket.com/albums/z65/mm123521/HPIM0772.jpg Mark On Mar 30, 7:08 pm, Cobra9431 afreem...@live.com wrote: I'm new to the hobby but have already started building an M4A3E8 Sherman, 2 actualy. My interior space is limited as I scaled down my plans to be exactly 3 feet long leaving me with only 91/2'' of interior width for my motors. Do you know of any 24v motors than will not require to be geared down. How about what is the best over all motor to be used in this hobby's experience? Any feed back will be great. Thanks. Aaron Freeman Near Las Vegas, NV -- You are currently subscribed to the R/C Tank Combat group. To post a message, send email to rctankcombat@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe, send email to rctankcombat-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com Visit the group at http://groups.google.com/group/rctankcombat To unsubscribe, reply using remove me as the subject. -- You are currently subscribed to the R/C Tank Combat group. To post a message, send email to rctankcombat@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe, send email to rctankcombat-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com Visit the group at http://groups.google.com/group/rctankcombat
[TANKS] Re: new to the hobby, need motors
I like the ones you showed in your rig. Will these motors run a 100-150 lbs machine without needing to be geared down further? (1:1 to final drive) -Aaron On Mar 30, 5:56 pm, Mark_123522 gatlinggunm...@sbcglobal.net wrote: Aaron: This is how I mounted my motors: http://i192.photobucket.com/albums/z65/mm123521/HPIM0753.jpghttp://i192.photobucket.com/albums/z65/mm123521/HPIM0771.jpghttp://i192.photobucket.com/albums/z65/mm123521/HPIM0755.jpghttp://i192.photobucket.com/albums/z65/mm123521/HPIM0772.jpg Mark -- You are currently subscribed to the R/C Tank Combat group. To post a message, send email to rctankcombat@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe, send email to rctankcombat-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com Visit the group at http://groups.google.com/group/rctankcombat To unsubscribe, reply using remove me as the subject.
Re: [TANKS] Re: new to the hobby, need motors
Most definitely running at 24V I'm using the same ones Mark is using in my KV-2 also which will be in the 110-130lbs. range. If you wanted to gear them down a little, use a larger than 9 tooth sprocket on the final drives. You can see the basic speed of the motors here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d7dfrddGMOI Bear in mind that it will be somewhat slower since my M113 only weighs in at about 50lbs. in that vid. Derek T065 On Tue, Mar 30, 2010 at 9:58 PM, Cobra9431 afreem...@live.com wrote: I like the ones you showed in your rig. Will these motors run a 100-150 lbs machine without needing to be geared down further? (1:1 to final drive) -Aaron On Mar 30, 5:56 pm, Mark_123522 gatlinggunm...@sbcglobal.net wrote: Aaron: This is how I mounted my motors: http://i192.photobucket.com/albums/z65/mm123521/HPIM0753.jpghttp://i192.photobucket.com/albums/z65/mm123521/HPIM0771.jpghttp://i192.photobucket.com/albums/z65/mm123521/HPIM0755.jpghttp://i192.photobucket.com/albums/z65/mm123521/HPIM0772.jpg Mark -- -- You are currently subscribed to the R/C Tank Combat group. To post a message, send email to rctankcombat@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe, send email to rctankcombat-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com Visit the group at http://groups.google.com/group/rctankcombat To unsubscribe, reply using remove me as the subject.
[TANKS] Re: New to the hobby
You didn't change the subject. You went off-topic, but didn't change the subect :) Ben the thread police Holko On Jun 2, 1:38 pm, Derek Engelhaupt tan...@gmail.com wrote: I'm assuming this is directed toward David. Without a point of reference I assumed it was directed at me. I just about went off on a tirade Ben. ;) Derek T065 On Mon, Jun 1, 2009 at 9:06 PM, Modena b...@holnet.net wrote: To post a new topic please create a brand-new message, do not change the subject-line on an existing message because it screws up the threading- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You are currently subscribed to the R/C Tank Combat group. To post a message, send email to rctankcombat@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe, send email to rctankcombat-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com Visit the group at http://groups.google.com/group/rctankcombat -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[TANKS] Re: New to the hobby
I made an extension of the thread. I just let the new guy know where he could see one of our tanks up close as all... ;) Derek T065 On Tue, Jun 2, 2009 at 1:13 AM, Modena b...@holnet.net wrote: You didn't change the subject. You went off-topic, but didn't change the subect :) Ben the thread police Holko On Jun 2, 1:38 pm, Derek Engelhaupt tan...@gmail.com wrote: I'm assuming this is directed toward David. Without a point of reference I assumed it was directed at me. I just about went off on a tirade Ben. ;) Derek T065 On Mon, Jun 1, 2009 at 9:06 PM, Modena b...@holnet.net wrote: To post a new topic please create a brand-new message, do not change the subject-line on an existing message because it screws up the threading- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You are currently subscribed to the R/C Tank Combat group. To post a message, send email to rctankcombat@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe, send email to rctankcombat-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com Visit the group at http://groups.google.com/group/rctankcombat -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[TANKS] Re: New to the hobby
I might be able to make it on the 14th. What time is it? On Tue, May 19, 2009 at 7:23 AM, Derek Engelhaupt tan...@gmail.com wrote: Jason, I mis-spoke about the date, it's actually the weekend of June 13th and 14th. I would think it would be fun to battle if someone came up with a viable way to actually make it a multiple single shot weapon. Derek T065 On Mon, May 18, 2009 at 11:32 PM, Jason R Schafer jasonrscha...@gmail.com wrote: I should be able to make it on the 21st. I am re-thinking my vehicle selection though - would the M270 MLRS be fun to battle? Has anybody made their own single shot paintball devices? Jason On Sat, May 16, 2009 at 8:52 PM, Derek Engelhaupt tan...@gmail.comwrote: Jason, June 20 and 21st the Ft. Snelling Military Museum is having an open house and I'll be down in the cities for that (tanks, trucks, APCs on parade and car crushing with the M60). I'll be bringing the tank with to hopefully entice some more battlers. Pics of the build are on the rctankcombat site: http://www.rctankcombat.com/tanks/T065/ The open house is my day to play with the real tanks. I'm actually down here in the cities this weekend, but don't have the tank with me. Derek T065 On Fri, May 15, 2009 at 1:57 PM, Jason R Schafer jasonrscha...@gmail.com wrote: cool! I'd like to see it sometime. On Fri, May 15, 2009 at 12:25 PM, Derek Engelhaupt tan...@gmail.comwrote: Whoohoo...another Minnesotan. I'm way up north, but have an *almost* fully functional tank ready to paint someone Derek T065 - Lutsen, MN On Fri, May 15, 2009 at 10:09 AM, Frank Pittelli frank.pitte...@gmail.com wrote: Jason R Schafer wrote: Any current or ex R/C warship combat guys in the hobby? The tank hobby was founded by two ex-IRCWCC national champions with over 20 years of combined warship battling experience. Is anybody trying any sort of barrel stabilization systems? Would this be legal? Perfectly legal. There are very few restrictions on tank sub-system technology. If it's not covered in the rules, you can use whatever you think will give you an advantage. Moreover, if you are the first to use a technology on the battlefield, you'll probably have your name attached to the solution for all the world to see. What about range finding etc? Go for it. It seems your rules are very open to technological advancements ... how fun! Yes. See (1) and (2) above. Frank P. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You are currently subscribed to the R/C Tank Combat group. To post a message, send email to rctankcombat@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe, send email to rctankcombat-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com Visit the group at http://groups.google.com/group/rctankcombat -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[TANKS] Re: New to the hobby
Jason R Schafer wrote: I might be able to make it on the 14th. What time is it? First battle typically starts promptly at 10am-ish. Frank P. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You are currently subscribed to the R/C Tank Combat group. To post a message, send email to rctankcombat@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe, send email to rctankcombat-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com Visit the group at http://groups.google.com/group/rctankcombat -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[TANKS] Re: New to the hobby
Frank, I think he was referring to the open house at the tank museum here in MN. It's 9am to 4pm. Here is a link to the events page. If you click on the flier, it has a map and such http://www.fsmm.org/events.htm Derek T065 On Mon, Jun 1, 2009 at 12:21 PM, Frank Pittelli frank.pitte...@gmail.comwrote: Jason R Schafer wrote: I might be able to make it on the 14th. What time is it? First battle typically starts promptly at 10am-ish. Frank P. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You are currently subscribed to the R/C Tank Combat group. To post a message, send email to rctankcombat@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe, send email to rctankcombat-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com Visit the group at http://groups.google.com/group/rctankcombat -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[TANKS] Re: New to the hobby
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[TANKS] Re: New to the hobby
I'm assuming this is directed toward David. Without a point of reference I assumed it was directed at me. I just about went off on a tirade Ben. ;) Derek T065 On Mon, Jun 1, 2009 at 9:06 PM, Modena b...@holnet.net wrote: To post a new topic please create a brand-new message, do not change the subject-line on an existing message because it screws up the threading --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You are currently subscribed to the R/C Tank Combat group. To post a message, send email to rctankcombat@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe, send email to rctankcombat-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com Visit the group at http://groups.google.com/group/rctankcombat -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[TANKS] Re: New to the hobby
Jason, I mis-spoke about the date, it's actually the weekend of June 13th and 14th. I would think it would be fun to battle if someone came up with a viable way to actually make it a multiple single shot weapon. Derek T065 On Mon, May 18, 2009 at 11:32 PM, Jason R Schafer jasonrscha...@gmail.comwrote: I should be able to make it on the 21st. I am re-thinking my vehicle selection though - would the M270 MLRS be fun to battle? Has anybody made their own single shot paintball devices? Jason On Sat, May 16, 2009 at 8:52 PM, Derek Engelhaupt tan...@gmail.comwrote: Jason, June 20 and 21st the Ft. Snelling Military Museum is having an open house and I'll be down in the cities for that (tanks, trucks, APCs on parade and car crushing with the M60). I'll be bringing the tank with to hopefully entice some more battlers. Pics of the build are on the rctankcombat site: http://www.rctankcombat.com/tanks/T065/ The open house is my day to play with the real tanks. I'm actually down here in the cities this weekend, but don't have the tank with me. Derek T065 On Fri, May 15, 2009 at 1:57 PM, Jason R Schafer jasonrscha...@gmail.com wrote: cool! I'd like to see it sometime. On Fri, May 15, 2009 at 12:25 PM, Derek Engelhaupt tan...@gmail.comwrote: Whoohoo...another Minnesotan. I'm way up north, but have an *almost* fully functional tank ready to paint someone Derek T065 - Lutsen, MN On Fri, May 15, 2009 at 10:09 AM, Frank Pittelli frank.pitte...@gmail.com wrote: Jason R Schafer wrote: Any current or ex R/C warship combat guys in the hobby? The tank hobby was founded by two ex-IRCWCC national champions with over 20 years of combined warship battling experience. Is anybody trying any sort of barrel stabilization systems? Would this be legal? Perfectly legal. There are very few restrictions on tank sub-system technology. If it's not covered in the rules, you can use whatever you think will give you an advantage. Moreover, if you are the first to use a technology on the battlefield, you'll probably have your name attached to the solution for all the world to see. What about range finding etc? Go for it. It seems your rules are very open to technological advancements ... how fun! Yes. See (1) and (2) above. Frank P. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You are currently subscribed to the R/C Tank Combat group. To post a message, send email to rctankcombat@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe, send email to rctankcombat-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com Visit the group at http://groups.google.com/group/rctankcombat -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[TANKS] Re: New to the hobby
Tippman have a barrel cant rememeber what its called but it puts reverse spin on the paintball for greater accuracy. Think it may have lesser range though. My only idea for if i ever get to build something is stick a thermometer inside because heat seems to be a small issue and there is no way of testing how hot it is during running withough sticking your hand inside which isnt too accurate. On May 16, 5:57 am, Mike Mangus mikem5...@yahoo.com wrote: I've been toying with an idea for barrel stabilization using existing off-the-shelf technology. It'll go into the Merkava. Unfortunately, building time is extremely limited right now, so it won't hit the battle field until next year. Mike From: Jason R Schafer jasonrscha...@gmail.com To: rctankcombat@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, May 15, 2009 12:19:19 PM Subject: [TANKS] New to the hobby Hello everyone, I am new to R/C tank combat and am looking forward to building an M1 Abrams this winter. Any current or ex R/C warship combat guys in the hobby? Is anybody trying any sort of barrel stabilization systems? Would this be legal? What about range finding etc? It seems your rules are very open to technological advancements ... how fun! Looking forward to learning more. Jason Schafer Minneapolis, MN --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You are currently subscribed to the R/C Tank Combat group. To post a message, send email to rctankcombat@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe, send email to rctankcombat-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com Visit the group at http://groups.google.com/group/rctankcombat -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
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After great effort , determination and expenditure the Funky Tank Foundry has developed a remarkable range finding system for not only Neil’s leopard but any tank out there . Here is the results:- A shot is fired in the direction of the enemy and if it falls short of the target the suggestion is to raise the barrel a bit , Ok you might think that’s very simple , now comes the clever part, if the next shot fly’s `over ` the intended target then the recommendation is to lower the barrel again, but importantly not as low as it was initially. If by this stage the target has still eluded a beating then at this critical stage the advice is to move a bit closer to the target and quickly return to the original plan. Many lives were risked leaking out the results of this research , as the FTF Managing Director is a bit of a nasty piece of work . use this information wisely if anyone has read this far. Over ! Mr A Non On May 15, 8:22 pm, Michael Clark ironnerd...@gmail.com wrote: I was thinking about a range finding artillery solution. Set up the artillery piece at and create either a Forward Observers post that could be disabled or mount it on a location aware recon vehicle. From there I was a bit lost. Either have the artillery be the second leg of a triangle. Or have the recon vehicle say I'm here, the target is 15 feet to my west. Michael I'm building a tank. Honest On Fri, May 15, 2009 at 2:57 PM, Jason R Schafer jasonrscha...@gmail.comwrote: cool! I'd like to see it sometime. On Fri, May 15, 2009 at 12:25 PM, Derek Engelhaupt tan...@gmail.comwrote: Whoohoo...another Minnesotan. I'm way up north, but have an *almost* fully functional tank ready to paint someone Derek T065 - Lutsen, MN On Fri, May 15, 2009 at 10:09 AM, Frank Pittelli frank.pitte...@gmail.com wrote: Jason R Schafer wrote: Any current or ex R/C warship combat guys in the hobby? The tank hobby was founded by two ex-IRCWCC national champions with over 20 years of combined warship battling experience. Is anybody trying any sort of barrel stabilization systems? Would this be legal? Perfectly legal. There are very few restrictions on tank sub-system technology. If it's not covered in the rules, you can use whatever you think will give you an advantage. Moreover, if you are the first to use a technology on the battlefield, you'll probably have your name attached to the solution for all the world to see. What about range finding etc? Go for it. It seems your rules are very open to technological advancements ... how fun! Yes. See (1) and (2) above. Frank P.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You are currently subscribed to the R/C Tank Combat group. To post a message, send email to rctankcombat@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe, send email to rctankcombat-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com Visit the group at http://groups.google.com/group/rctankcombat -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
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Ohhh That reminds me. I was at Lowes the other day and in the tool section they had portable CO2 bottles for air powered tools and there is supposed to be a bottle exchange program. On Sat, May 16, 2009 at 12:38 PM, jvragu47 jpl...@yahoo.com wrote: From the Director of Cost Management M.A.G. Industries Based on the following figures, firing 500 rounds per 1 hour of battle, using one 12oz Co2 bottle, it costs approximately 2 cents US ,per round fired. Your price may vary, cost based on purchase of 2000 rounds @$60 and 2 Co2 fills at $2.50 each. Maintaining serious amounts of fire to harass the enemy, PRICELESS. Mr. C. Non On May 16, 11:14 am, funkyne...@ntlworld.com wrote: After great effort , determination and expenditure the Funky Tank Foundry has developed a remarkable range finding system for not only Neil’s leopard but any tank out there . Here is the results:- A shot is fired in the direction of the enemy and if it falls short of the target the suggestion is to raise the barrel a bit , Ok you might think that’s very simple , now comes the clever part, if the next shot fly’s `over ` the intended target then the recommendation is to lower the barrel again, but importantly not as low as it was initially. If by this stage the target has still eluded a beating then at this critical stage the advice is to move a bit closer to the target and quickly return to the original plan. Many lives were risked leaking out the results of this research , as the FTF Managing Director is a bit of a nasty piece of work . use this information wisely if anyone has read this far. Over ! Mr A Non On May 15, 8:22 pm, Michael Clark ironnerd...@gmail.com wrote: I was thinking about a range finding artillery solution. Set up the artillery piece at and create either a Forward Observers post that could be disabled or mount it on a location aware recon vehicle. From there I was a bit lost. Either have the artillery be the second leg of a triangle. Or have the recon vehicle say I'm here, the target is 15 feet to my west. Michael I'm building a tank. Honest On Fri, May 15, 2009 at 2:57 PM, Jason R Schafer jasonrscha...@gmail.comwrote: cool! I'd like to see it sometime. On Fri, May 15, 2009 at 12:25 PM, Derek Engelhaupt tan...@gmail.com wrote: Whoohoo...another Minnesotan. I'm way up north, but have an *almost* fully functional tank ready to paint someone Derek T065 - Lutsen, MN On Fri, May 15, 2009 at 10:09 AM, Frank Pittelli frank.pitte...@gmail.com wrote: Jason R Schafer wrote: Any current or ex R/C warship combat guys in the hobby? The tank hobby was founded by two ex-IRCWCC national champions with over 20 years of combined warship battling experience. Is anybody trying any sort of barrel stabilization systems? Would this be legal? Perfectly legal. There are very few restrictions on tank sub-system technology. If it's not covered in the rules, you can use whatever you think will give you an advantage. Moreover, if you are the first to use a technology on the battlefield, you'll probably have your name attached to the solution for all the world to see. What about range finding etc? Go for it. It seems your rules are very open to technological advancements ... how fun! Yes. See (1) and (2) above. Frank P.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You are currently subscribed to the R/C Tank Combat group. To post a message, send email to rctankcombat@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe, send email to rctankcombat-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com Visit the group at http://groups.google.com/group/rctankcombat -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
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I want to say 20 ounces. It was about the same height, but fatter than the ones normally for use with portable air tools. On Sat, May 16, 2009 at 6:12 PM, odysseyslipw...@aol.com wrote: In a message dated 5/16/2009 1:51:48 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, ironnerd...@gmail.com writes: Ohhh That reminds me. I was at Lowes the other day and in the tool section they had portable CO2 bottles for air powered tools and there is supposed to be a bottle exchange program. the CO2 bottles, are they like he large ones the guys have at the battle fields or smaller? did you happen to catch a price? Chris, Odyssey Slipways http://hometown.aol.com/odysseyslipways/index.html --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You are currently subscribed to the R/C Tank Combat group. To post a message, send email to rctankcombat@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe, send email to rctankcombat-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com Visit the group at http://groups.google.com/group/rctankcombat -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
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Jason, June 20 and 21st the Ft. Snelling Military Museum is having an open house and I'll be down in the cities for that (tanks, trucks, APCs on parade and car crushing with the M60). I'll be bringing the tank with to hopefully entice some more battlers. Pics of the build are on the rctankcombat site: http://www.rctankcombat.com/tanks/T065/ The open house is my day to play with the real tanks. I'm actually down here in the cities this weekend, but don't have the tank with me. Derek T065 On Fri, May 15, 2009 at 1:57 PM, Jason R Schafer jasonrscha...@gmail.comwrote: cool! I'd like to see it sometime. On Fri, May 15, 2009 at 12:25 PM, Derek Engelhaupt tan...@gmail.comwrote: Whoohoo...another Minnesotan. I'm way up north, but have an *almost* fully functional tank ready to paint someone Derek T065 - Lutsen, MN On Fri, May 15, 2009 at 10:09 AM, Frank Pittelli frank.pitte...@gmail.com wrote: Jason R Schafer wrote: Any current or ex R/C warship combat guys in the hobby? The tank hobby was founded by two ex-IRCWCC national champions with over 20 years of combined warship battling experience. Is anybody trying any sort of barrel stabilization systems? Would this be legal? Perfectly legal. There are very few restrictions on tank sub-system technology. If it's not covered in the rules, you can use whatever you think will give you an advantage. Moreover, if you are the first to use a technology on the battlefield, you'll probably have your name attached to the solution for all the world to see. What about range finding etc? Go for it. It seems your rules are very open to technological advancements ... how fun! Yes. See (1) and (2) above. Frank P. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You are currently subscribed to the R/C Tank Combat group. To post a message, send email to rctankcombat@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe, send email to rctankcombat-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com Visit the group at http://groups.google.com/group/rctankcombat -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
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Jason R Schafer wrote: Any current or ex R/C warship combat guys in the hobby? The tank hobby was founded by two ex-IRCWCC national champions with over 20 years of combined warship battling experience. Is anybody trying any sort of barrel stabilization systems? Would this be legal? Perfectly legal. There are very few restrictions on tank sub-system technology. If it's not covered in the rules, you can use whatever you think will give you an advantage. Moreover, if you are the first to use a technology on the battlefield, you'll probably have your name attached to the solution for all the world to see. What about range finding etc? Go for it. It seems your rules are very open to technological advancements ... how fun! Yes. See (1) and (2) above. Frank P. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You are currently subscribed to the R/C Tank Combat group. To post a message, send email to rctankcombat@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe, send email to rctankcombat-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com Visit the group at http://groups.google.com/group/rctankcombat -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
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Whoohoo...another Minnesotan. I'm way up north, but have an *almost* fully functional tank ready to paint someone Derek T065 - Lutsen, MN On Fri, May 15, 2009 at 10:09 AM, Frank Pittelli frank.pitte...@gmail.comwrote: Jason R Schafer wrote: Any current or ex R/C warship combat guys in the hobby? The tank hobby was founded by two ex-IRCWCC national champions with over 20 years of combined warship battling experience. Is anybody trying any sort of barrel stabilization systems? Would this be legal? Perfectly legal. There are very few restrictions on tank sub-system technology. If it's not covered in the rules, you can use whatever you think will give you an advantage. Moreover, if you are the first to use a technology on the battlefield, you'll probably have your name attached to the solution for all the world to see. What about range finding etc? Go for it. It seems your rules are very open to technological advancements ... how fun! Yes. See (1) and (2) above. Frank P. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You are currently subscribed to the R/C Tank Combat group. To post a message, send email to rctankcombat@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe, send email to rctankcombat-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com Visit the group at http://groups.google.com/group/rctankcombat -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
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cool! I'd like to see it sometime. On Fri, May 15, 2009 at 12:25 PM, Derek Engelhaupt tan...@gmail.com wrote: Whoohoo...another Minnesotan. I'm way up north, but have an *almost* fully functional tank ready to paint someone Derek T065 - Lutsen, MN On Fri, May 15, 2009 at 10:09 AM, Frank Pittelli frank.pitte...@gmail.com wrote: Jason R Schafer wrote: Any current or ex R/C warship combat guys in the hobby? The tank hobby was founded by two ex-IRCWCC national champions with over 20 years of combined warship battling experience. Is anybody trying any sort of barrel stabilization systems? Would this be legal? Perfectly legal. There are very few restrictions on tank sub-system technology. If it's not covered in the rules, you can use whatever you think will give you an advantage. Moreover, if you are the first to use a technology on the battlefield, you'll probably have your name attached to the solution for all the world to see. What about range finding etc? Go for it. It seems your rules are very open to technological advancements ... how fun! Yes. See (1) and (2) above. Frank P. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You are currently subscribed to the R/C Tank Combat group. To post a message, send email to rctankcombat@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe, send email to rctankcombat-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com Visit the group at http://groups.google.com/group/rctankcombat -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[TANKS] Re: New to the hobby
I was thinking about a range finding artillery solution. Set up the artillery piece at and create either a Forward Observers post that could be disabled or mount it on a location aware recon vehicle. From there I was a bit lost. Either have the artillery be the second leg of a triangle. Or have the recon vehicle say I'm here, the target is 15 feet to my west. Michael I'm building a tank. Honest On Fri, May 15, 2009 at 2:57 PM, Jason R Schafer jasonrscha...@gmail.comwrote: cool! I'd like to see it sometime. On Fri, May 15, 2009 at 12:25 PM, Derek Engelhaupt tan...@gmail.comwrote: Whoohoo...another Minnesotan. I'm way up north, but have an *almost* fully functional tank ready to paint someone Derek T065 - Lutsen, MN On Fri, May 15, 2009 at 10:09 AM, Frank Pittelli frank.pitte...@gmail.com wrote: Jason R Schafer wrote: Any current or ex R/C warship combat guys in the hobby? The tank hobby was founded by two ex-IRCWCC national champions with over 20 years of combined warship battling experience. Is anybody trying any sort of barrel stabilization systems? Would this be legal? Perfectly legal. There are very few restrictions on tank sub-system technology. If it's not covered in the rules, you can use whatever you think will give you an advantage. Moreover, if you are the first to use a technology on the battlefield, you'll probably have your name attached to the solution for all the world to see. What about range finding etc? Go for it. It seems your rules are very open to technological advancements ... how fun! Yes. See (1) and (2) above. Frank P. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You are currently subscribed to the R/C Tank Combat group. To post a message, send email to rctankcombat@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe, send email to rctankcombat-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com Visit the group at http://groups.google.com/group/rctankcombat -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
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FN2000's have a scope that can tell which trajectory you need to aim at to fire your under barrel grenade at a pre chosen distance. THing is grenade falls. paintball does but not as far On May 15, 8:22 pm, Michael Clark ironnerd...@gmail.com wrote: I was thinking about a range finding artillery solution. Set up the artillery piece at and create either a Forward Observers post that could be disabled or mount it on a location aware recon vehicle. From there I was a bit lost. Either have the artillery be the second leg of a triangle. Or have the recon vehicle say I'm here, the target is 15 feet to my west. Michael I'm building a tank. Honest On Fri, May 15, 2009 at 2:57 PM, Jason R Schafer jasonrscha...@gmail.comwrote: cool! I'd like to see it sometime. On Fri, May 15, 2009 at 12:25 PM, Derek Engelhaupt tan...@gmail.comwrote: Whoohoo...another Minnesotan. I'm way up north, but have an *almost* fully functional tank ready to paint someone Derek T065 - Lutsen, MN On Fri, May 15, 2009 at 10:09 AM, Frank Pittelli frank.pitte...@gmail.com wrote: Jason R Schafer wrote: Any current or ex R/C warship combat guys in the hobby? The tank hobby was founded by two ex-IRCWCC national champions with over 20 years of combined warship battling experience. Is anybody trying any sort of barrel stabilization systems? Would this be legal? Perfectly legal. There are very few restrictions on tank sub-system technology. If it's not covered in the rules, you can use whatever you think will give you an advantage. Moreover, if you are the first to use a technology on the battlefield, you'll probably have your name attached to the solution for all the world to see. What about range finding etc? Go for it. It seems your rules are very open to technological advancements ... how fun! Yes. See (1) and (2) above. Frank P. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You are currently subscribed to the R/C Tank Combat group. To post a message, send email to rctankcombat@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe, send email to rctankcombat-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com Visit the group at http://groups.google.com/group/rctankcombat -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[TANKS] Re: New to the hobby
I've been toying with an idea for barrel stabilization using existing off-the-shelf technology. It'll go into the Merkava. Unfortunately, building time is extremely limited right now, so it won't hit the battle field until next year. Mike From: Jason R Schafer jasonrscha...@gmail.com To: rctankcombat@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, May 15, 2009 12:19:19 PM Subject: [TANKS] New to the hobby Hello everyone, I am new to R/C tank combat and am looking forward to building an M1 Abrams this winter. Any current or ex R/C warship combat guys in the hobby? Is anybody trying any sort of barrel stabilization systems? Would this be legal? What about range finding etc? It seems your rules are very open to technological advancements ... how fun! Looking forward to learning more. Jason Schafer Minneapolis, MN --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You are currently subscribed to the R/C Tank Combat group. To post a message, send email to rctankcombat@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe, send email to rctankcombat-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com Visit the group at http://groups.google.com/group/rctankcombat -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[TANKS] Re: New to the Hobby myself
Hehe, at least you have some fellow-builders in the same country, ask Marc how it is to be the only one with an operating tank in his country ;) But as I have promised before: I will eventually finish mine and start the battle, hoping Marc's Tank is still working, and his batteries are well-serviced. . . On Apr 19, 5:44 am, Retired Rider tinsmi...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, Well I'm also new to the Hobby and I plan on building a King Tiger, I have a small Sheet Metal shop and I plan on mocking it up out of wood. Then building it out of metal, I have been reading everyone's posts and have gotten a load of info. My only problem is, if I build it is there anyone for me to shoot? I live in Portland, Oregon, and most of the posts I read are either on the East coast or the UK! So is there anyone around here to play with or do I just shoot at passing cars. George --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You are currently subscribed to the R/C Tank Combat group. To post a message, send email to rctankcombat@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe, send email to rctankcombat-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com Visit the group at http://groups.google.com/group/rctankcombat -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[TANKS] Re: New to the Hobby myself
ask Marc how it is to be the only one with an operating tank in his country ;) Yeah rub it in... But as I have promised before: I will eventually finish mine and start the battle, hoping Marc's Tank is still working, and his batteries are well-serviced. . . I'm not sure if my batteries live for another 10 years ;-) --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You are currently subscribed to the R/C Tank Combat group. To post a message, send email to rctankcombat@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe, send email to rctankcombat-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com Visit the group at http://groups.google.com/group/rctankcombat -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
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Thanks for your advice, im going to start with a 1/35 scale model and go from there. I cant make this ebent coming up may 2nd but would like to klnow when the next one is. Thanks Rick **A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1220572844x1201387506/aol?redir=http:%2F%2Fwww.freecreditreport.com%2Fpm%2Fdefault.aspx%3Fsc%3D668072%26 hmpgID%3D62%26bcd%3DAprilfooter420NO62) --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You are currently subscribed to the R/C Tank Combat group. To post a message, send email to rctankcombat@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe, send email to rctankcombat-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com Visit the group at http://groups.google.com/group/rctankcombat -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
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On Sat, Apr 18, 2009 at 11:41 PM, Derek Engelhaupt tan...@gmail.com wrote: I'm kinda in the same boat here in Minnesota, but I would say build it anyway. Build it and they will comeeventually. :) Build one, then build a second as a loaner, then hopefully people will see them and decide to build their own. In time, there will be international rc tank battle conventions. -- -Bill Hamilton, Optimist --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You are currently subscribed to the R/C Tank Combat group. To post a message, send email to rctankcombat@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe, send email to rctankcombat-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com Visit the group at http://groups.google.com/group/rctankcombat -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[TANKS] Re: New to this hobby
Speaking of Sketchup, This little plug in will take your model and convert it to a cutlist: http://lumberjocks.com/daltxguy/blog/5143 On Sat, Apr 18, 2009 at 9:09 PM, Modena b...@holnet.net wrote: I've gotten hooked on Google Sketchup lately, it's a great free drawing program that takes about 20 minutes to learn enough to use it with little or no trouble seconded - google sketchup is the way to go, and depending on your choice of vehicle, you may even find that someone has already drawn your vehicle in 3D, then just use the sketchup scale tool to make the whole thing 1:6 in a single stroke of the mouse, and you have all your dimensions :) --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You are currently subscribed to the R/C Tank Combat group. To post a message, send email to rctankcombat@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe, send email to rctankcombat-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com Visit the group at http://groups.google.com/group/rctankcombat -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[TANKS] Re: New to the Hobby myself
Don't feel so bad you guys. There are many of us that don't have anyone to battle with. I'm in Canada living on a military base decorated in real 1:1 tanks and surprisingly there is no one around me that is interested in this sort of hobby. I even showed my military friends my tank to persuade them to have a go at it, and the only response I get is: Holly smokes, I wouldn't have the patience for this sort of thing So I'm mainly building my King Tiger to prowl around the backyard and climb over stuff, there are plenty of off road trails on and off base that I can take my tank to. I'm also testing out a hybrid electric setup at the same time since I don't like the idea of not being able to play for more than the batteries allow me to. So this tank is my foundation for something much better in the future. On Apr 18, 9:41 pm, Derek Engelhaupt tan...@gmail.com wrote: I'm kinda in the same boat here in Minnesota, but I would say build it anyway. Build it and they will comeeventually. :) Derek On Sat, Apr 18, 2009 at 10:44 PM, Retired Rider tinsmi...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, Well I'm also new to the Hobby and I plan on building a King Tiger, I have a small Sheet Metal shop and I plan on mocking it up out of wood. Then building it out of metal, I have been reading everyone's posts and have gotten a load of info. My only problem is, if I build it is there anyone for me to shoot? I live in Portland, Oregon, and most of the posts I read are either on the East coast or the UK! So is there anyone around here to play with or do I just shoot at passing cars. George --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You are currently subscribed to the R/C Tank Combat group. To post a message, send email to rctankcombat@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe, send email to rctankcombat-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com Visit the group at http://groups.google.com/group/rctankcombat -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
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John wrote: Luckily for those of us who battle in Maryland we just visualize the Cromwell running into our vehicles. Generally Steve is able to hit a couple of sides per encounter. Yep, I'm proud of the old war-horse. It can disable an entire Pittelli's worth of opponents and still keep going! Steve It's More Efficient to Drive Through it than Around it Tyng --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You are currently subscribed to the R/C Tank Combat group. To post a message, send email to rctankcombat@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe, send email to rctankcombat-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com Visit the group at http://groups.google.com/group/rctankcombat -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
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Paul wrote: I haven't got a CAD program, nor Solid Works. You don't need a full CAD package to take advantage of some computer assisted space planning. I use a drawing pacjkage called Corel Draw to draw out my ideas before the blade hits the wood. I find it very helpfull in testing to see how various items will fit together and such. Any drawing package that can do basic shapes and dimension them would work. I've uploaded a few development drawings of the Cromwell as an example. Check out the CromwelDWG1-3 jpg's in the files section. Steve Tyng --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You are currently subscribed to the R/C Tank Combat group. To post a message, send email to rctankcombat@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe, send email to rctankcombat-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com Visit the group at http://groups.google.com/group/rctankcombat -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
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I've gotten hooked on Google Sketchup lately, it's a great free drawing program that takes about 20 minutes to learn enough to use it with little or no trouble. They have a host of youtube videos explaining any tool or procedure, I am really impressed with it. Tom On Apr 18, 2009, at 12:08 PM, Steve Tyng wrote: Paul wrote: I haven't got a CAD program, nor Solid Works. You don't need a full CAD package to take advantage of some computer assisted space planning. I use a drawing pacjkage called Corel Draw to draw out my ideas before the blade hits the wood. I find it very helpfull in testing to see how various items will fit together and such. Any drawing package that can do basic shapes and dimension them would work. I've uploaded a few development drawings of the Cromwell as an example. Check out the CromwelDWG1-3 jpg's in the files section. Steve Tyng --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You are currently subscribed to the R/C Tank Combat group. To post a message, send email to rctankcombat@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe, send email to rctankcombat-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com Visit the group at http://groups.google.com/group/rctankcombat -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
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I've gotten hooked on Google Sketchup lately, it's a great free drawing program that takes about 20 minutes to learn enough to use it with little or no trouble seconded - google sketchup is the way to go, and depending on your choice of vehicle, you may even find that someone has already drawn your vehicle in 3D, then just use the sketchup scale tool to make the whole thing 1:6 in a single stroke of the mouse, and you have all your dimensions :) --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You are currently subscribed to the R/C Tank Combat group. To post a message, send email to rctankcombat@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe, send email to rctankcombat-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com Visit the group at http://groups.google.com/group/rctankcombat -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
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In a message dated 4/18/2009 11:45:03 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, tinsmi...@gmail.com writes: So is there anyone around here to play with or do I just shoot at passing cars. George depends, is there a law forbidding it? Chris, _Odyssey Slipways_ (http://hometown.aol.com/odysseyslipways/index.html) **Access 350+ FREE radio stations anytime from anywhere on the web. Get the Radio Toolbar! (http://toolbar.aol.com/aolradio/download.html?ncid=emlcntusdown0003) --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You are currently subscribed to the R/C Tank Combat group. To post a message, send email to rctankcombat@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe, send email to rctankcombat-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com Visit the group at http://groups.google.com/group/rctankcombat -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
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don't be chasing the horse (and shooting it) Chris, _Odyssey Slipways_ (http://hometown.aol.com/odysseyslipways/index.html) **Access 350+ FREE radio stations anytime from anywhere on the web. Get the Radio Toolbar! (http://toolbar.aol.com/aolradio/download.html?ncid=emlcntusdown0003) --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You are currently subscribed to the R/C Tank Combat group. To post a message, send email to rctankcombat@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe, send email to rctankcombat-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com Visit the group at http://groups.google.com/group/rctankcombat -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
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I'm kinda in the same boat here in Minnesota, but I would say build it anyway. Build it and they will comeeventually. :) Derek On Sat, Apr 18, 2009 at 10:44 PM, Retired Rider tinsmi...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, Well I'm also new to the Hobby and I plan on building a King Tiger, I have a small Sheet Metal shop and I plan on mocking it up out of wood. Then building it out of metal, I have been reading everyone's posts and have gotten a load of info. My only problem is, if I build it is there anyone for me to shoot? I live in Portland, Oregon, and most of the posts I read are either on the East coast or the UK! So is there anyone around here to play with or do I just shoot at passing cars. George --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You are currently subscribed to the R/C Tank Combat group. To post a message, send email to rctankcombat@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe, send email to rctankcombat-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com Visit the group at http://groups.google.com/group/rctankcombat -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
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Hah! A kindred spirit! Keep with it, Derek. I have the same issue, build then modify, then modify again. I haven't got a CAD program, nor Solid Works. What I have are ideas, some work out, some don't. Most of the time I need to build something to see why it won't work, then modify it so that it does. Paul H. - Original Message - From: Derek Engelhaupt To: rctankcombat@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 10:57 PM Subject: [TANKS] Re: New to this hobby Oh, I spent a lot of time thinking about building...problem with thinking is there is no tangible product. Yes, my approach was to build it, test it, see it didn't work, and then build it again and again until it did work. That's just my personality though. I have to make progress (forward or backward) on something tangible or I get board. I've said it many times, the theory in my head didn't always work in a practical application. To me it's easier to fix something that's broke than it is to make something work from scratch even it means totally rebuilding the broken item. I haven't really wasted that much material though. I keep my mistakes and make smaller parts from the big mistakes... :) Derek T065 On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 9:29 PM, Gregory Pwneror sockles...@gmail.com wrote: Hmmm, Derrek, you took the same approach as Dave Manson and his Big Mother tank. But it works. Basically, prepare to spend a lot of time, blood, sweat, tears and money on it. Then get donw to it and get working. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You are currently subscribed to the R/C Tank Combat group. To post a message, send email to rctankcombat@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe, send email to rctankcombat-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com Visit the group at http://groups.google.com/group/rctankcombat -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
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On Apr 17, 12:40 am, George Mastoras id...@optusnet.com.au wrote: I agree Chrys, the capacity to visualize can be very helpful. I try to visualise all the areas in my tanks that will be stressed and from what angle that stress will come from etc and try to add support to handle it. George, Luckily for those of us who battle in Maryland we just visualize the Cromwell running into our vehicles. Generally Steve is able to hit a couple of sides per encounter. Actually now we just , glue, nail and fiberglass the entire vehicle. LOL. John --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You are currently subscribed to the R/C Tank Combat group. To post a message, send email to rctankcombat@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe, send email to rctankcombat-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com Visit the group at http://groups.google.com/group/rctankcombat -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
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Hmmm, Derrek, you took the same approach as Dave Manson and his Big Mother tank. But it works. Basically, prepare to spend a lot of time, blood, sweat, tears and money on it. Then get donw to it and get working. On Wed, Apr 15, 2009 at 11:03 PM, Modena b...@holnet.net wrote: http://www.anvilus.com/motor01.html read the text to get the email address On Apr 15, 2:06 pm, rbunc...@aol.com wrote: Thanks for the advice, i can see that i will fit right in, how do i contact Joe ? Rick **Great deals on Dell’s most popular laptops – Starting at $479 (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1220631252x1201390195/aol?red.. .) --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You are currently subscribed to the R/C Tank Combat group. To post a message, send email to rctankcombat@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe, send email to rctankcombat-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com Visit the group at http://groups.google.com/group/rctankcombat -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
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Oh, I spent a lot of time thinking about building...problem with thinking is there is no tangible product. Yes, my approach was to build it, test it, see it didn't work, and then build it again and again until it did work. That's just my personality though. I have to make progress (forward or backward) on something tangible or I get board. I've said it many times, the theory in my head didn't always work in a practical application. To me it's easier to fix something that's broke than it is to make something work from scratch even it means totally rebuilding the broken item. I haven't really wasted that much material though. I keep my mistakes and make smaller parts from the big mistakes... :) Derek T065 On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 9:29 PM, Gregory Pwneror sockles...@gmail.comwrote: Hmmm, Derrek, you took the same approach as Dave Manson and his Big Mother tank. But it works. Basically, prepare to spend a lot of time, blood, sweat, tears and money on it. Then get donw to it and get working. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You are currently subscribed to the R/C Tank Combat group. To post a message, send email to rctankcombat@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe, send email to rctankcombat-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com Visit the group at http://groups.google.com/group/rctankcombat -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
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Yeah, I've seen both approaches in worksites and craftsmen. One, you plan everything for a long time and when you have to fix or correct or patch something, this is taken with disappointment and is considered a defeat, a compromise or a failure of teh theory. IN the other, more earthly, approach, people do not have a grasp of things before they lay hands on the project and things start taking shape as the project evolves. I believe it has to do with the capacity to visualize things before hand, more than it has to do with perfectionism. I am in the former approach. IN teh theoretical approach , kind of Platonic, teh project already exists and runs and battles in teh universe of ideas, before implementation. C - Original Message - From: Derek Engelhaupt To: rctankcombat@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, April 17, 2009 5:57 AM Subject: [TANKS] Re: New to this hobby Oh, I spent a lot of time thinking about building...problem with thinking is there is no tangible product. Yes, my approach was to build it, test it, see it didn't work, and then build it again and again until it did work. That's just my personality though. I have to make progress (forward or backward) on something tangible or I get board. I've said it many times, the theory in my head didn't always work in a practical application. To me it's easier to fix something that's broke than it is to make something work from scratch even it means totally rebuilding the broken item. I haven't really wasted that much material though. I keep my mistakes and make smaller parts from the big mistakes... :) Derek T065 On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 9:29 PM, Gregory Pwneror sockles...@gmail.com wrote: Hmmm, Derrek, you took the same approach as Dave Manson and his Big Mother tank. But it works. Basically, prepare to spend a lot of time, blood, sweat, tears and money on it. Then get donw to it and get working. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You are currently subscribed to the R/C Tank Combat group. To post a message, send email to rctankcombat@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe, send email to rctankcombat-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com Visit the group at http://groups.google.com/group/rctankcombat -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
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I agree Chrys, the capacity to visualize can be very helpful. I try to visualise all the areas in my tanks that will be stressed and from what angle that stress will come from etc and try to add support to handle it. I don¹t have to get a crash test dummy to do these tests, its just a matter of using your imagination. As a funny haired dude once said, imagination is more important than knowledge. That being said there is something to be said about failing, when your ideas fail that¹s when you learn something, does not always mean that your idea was a bad one, you just found a weak link and you now move on to the next weak link but if you could have imagined the failure point you would have to only build it once but sometimes ideas need to be thrown out. I spend a lot of time planning in my head before I do anything, I don¹t mean I sit there thinking like a statue, I mean when I am doing mundane chores or relaxing am going through ideas in my head. atm I have been processing a build of a leclerc turret, even though I haven¹t actually done anything I am making progress, when I am ready to build it should go rather smooth because I have been visualising the steps required and making progress, even though its a figment of my imagination. George On 17/4/09 1:27 PM, Chrysanthos Kanellopoulos xchr...@otenet.gr wrote: Yeah, I've seen both approaches in worksites and craftsmen. One, you plan everything for a long time and when you have to fix or correct or patch something, this is taken with disappointment and is considered a defeat, a compromise or a failure of teh theory. IN the other, more earthly, approach, people do not have a grasp of things before they lay hands on the project and things start taking shape as the project evolves. I believe it has to do with the capacity to visualize things before hand, more than it has to do with perfectionism. I am in the former approach. IN teh theoretical approach , kind of Platonic, teh project already exists and runs and battles in teh universe of ideas, before implementation. C - Original Message - From: Derek Engelhaupt mailto:tan...@gmail.com To: rctankcombat@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, April 17, 2009 5:57 AM Subject: [TANKS] Re: New to this hobby Oh, I spent a lot of time thinking about building...problem with thinking is there is no tangible product. Yes, my approach was to build it, test it, see it didn't work, and then build it again and again until it did work. That's just my personality though. I have to make progress (forward or backward) on something tangible or I get board. I've said it many times, the theory in my head didn't always work in a practical application. To me it's easier to fix something that's broke than it is to make something work from scratch even it means totally rebuilding the broken item. I haven't really wasted that much material though. I keep my mistakes and make smaller parts from the big mistakes... :) Derek T065 On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 9:29 PM, Gregory Pwneror sockles...@gmail.com wrote: Hmmm, Derrek, you took the same approach as Dave Manson and his Big Mother tank. But it works. Basically, prepare to spend a lot of time, blood, sweat, tears and money on it. Then get donw to it and get working. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You are currently subscribed to the R/C Tank Combat group. To post a message, send email to rctankcombat@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe, send email to rctankcombat-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com Visit the group at http://groups.google.com/group/rctankcombat -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
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http://www.anvilus.com/motor01.html read the text to get the email address On Apr 15, 2:06 pm, rbunc...@aol.com wrote: Thanks for the advice, i can see that i will fit right in, how do i contact Joe ? Rick **Great deals on Dell’s most popular laptops – Starting at $479 (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1220631252x1201390195/aol?red...) --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You are currently subscribed to the R/C Tank Combat group. To post a message, send email to rctankcombat@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe, send email to rctankcombat-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com Visit the group at http://groups.google.com/group/rctankcombat -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
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On Mon, Apr 13, 2009 at 10:39 PM, rbunc...@aol.com wrote: Very cool, so where do you get the batteries,drive system and tracks ? Motors, batteries, chains, cogs and driveshafts can be purchased from a variety of places, at a variety of costs. What's available and at what price changes pretty quickly, so what someone used last year may not be findable now. There are several stores listed in the Related Links section of the website ( http://www.rctankcombat.com/links.html ) that are helpful. There are also several different ways people make tracks. Attachment chain, bicycle chain, and pads attached to flat rubber belt are just a few. You're not going to get a useful answer to how do I get tracks? here, because it's already been covered in detail (with pictures, even) in the build discussions on the website. We can't explain it any clearer than that. There are no step-by-step with plans Here is how to build a tank guides. (Well, there's one; you can get Bill Johns' Sherman plans, but you'll still have to figure out the R/C and paintball marker on your own.) You're going to have to do the heavy lifting on the design work yourself. We're glad to provide advice and support, but you're going to have to match that with hard work and dedication to your project. That starts with sitting down and reading the information in the FAQ and the build descriptions. Take notes as you go through the pages. Decide what methods you are able to use, or willing to learn to use. Research tanks and decide which one you want to build. Find more research on that tank, drawings, etc. that you can work from while building the tank. That's where you need to start, and we can't do it for you. Do the research. Read what the people before you have provided, and learn everything you can from their mistakes. If you're not willing to do that work now, you're going to have a hard time when construction starts getting difficult. And above all, have fun. Building the tank is as much a part of the hobby as fighting with it. -- -Bill Hamilton --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You are currently subscribed to the R/C Tank Combat group. To post a message, send email to rctankcombat@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe, send email to rctankcombat-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com Visit the group at http://groups.google.com/group/rctankcombat -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
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Joe Sommer's Hetzer had some plans and a parts list with sources, but it looks like it has been removed. Maybe send him an email and ask real nice. On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 6:58 AM, Bill Hamilton billw...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Apr 13, 2009 at 10:39 PM, rbunc...@aol.com wrote: Very cool, so where do you get the batteries,drive system and tracks ? Motors, batteries, chains, cogs and driveshafts can be purchased from a variety of places, at a variety of costs. What's available and at what price changes pretty quickly, so what someone used last year may not be findable now. There are several stores listed in the Related Links section of the website ( http://www.rctankcombat.com/links.html ) that are helpful. There are also several different ways people make tracks. Attachment chain, bicycle chain, and pads attached to flat rubber belt are just a few. You're not going to get a useful answer to how do I get tracks? here, because it's already been covered in detail (with pictures, even) in the build discussions on the website. We can't explain it any clearer than that. There are no step-by-step with plans Here is how to build a tank guides. (Well, there's one; you can get Bill Johns' Sherman plans, but you'll still have to figure out the R/C and paintball marker on your own.) You're going to have to do the heavy lifting on the design work yourself. We're glad to provide advice and support, but you're going to have to match that with hard work and dedication to your project. That starts with sitting down and reading the information in the FAQ and the build descriptions. Take notes as you go through the pages. Decide what methods you are able to use, or willing to learn to use. Research tanks and decide which one you want to build. Find more research on that tank, drawings, etc. that you can work from while building the tank. That's where you need to start, and we can't do it for you. Do the research. Read what the people before you have provided, and learn everything you can from their mistakes. If you're not willing to do that work now, you're going to have a hard time when construction starts getting difficult. And above all, have fun. Building the tank is as much a part of the hobby as fighting with it. -- -Bill Hamilton --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You are currently subscribed to the R/C Tank Combat group. To post a message, send email to rctankcombat@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe, send email to rctankcombat-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com Visit the group at http://groups.google.com/group/rctankcombat -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
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also, later on, use the search function on this group website, for example when you are looking for a motor, marker, or RC RX/TX, search this group and you will find experiences and advice that is actually relevant to using said system on a tank - this is something you cannot find anywhere else but on this group so once you are at pre-build or build stage and you think you might like to use component X or motor Y, search this group for it, and take in the mistakes, and good experienced advice, of other people. PS: if you are reading this group via email, go to http://groups.google.com/group/rctankcombat/ and use the search function to search the archives Ben On Apr 14, 9:11 pm, Michael Clark ironnerd...@gmail.com wrote: Joe Sommer's Hetzer had some plans and a parts list with sources, but it looks like it has been removed. Maybe send him an email and ask real nice. On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 6:58 AM, Bill Hamilton billw...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Apr 13, 2009 at 10:39 PM, rbunc...@aol.com wrote: Very cool, so where do you get the batteries,drive system and tracks ? Motors, batteries, chains, cogs and driveshafts can be purchased from a variety of places, at a variety of costs. What's available and at what price changes pretty quickly, so what someone used last year may not be findable now. There are several stores listed in the Related Links section of the website (http://www.rctankcombat.com/links.html ) that are helpful. There are also several different ways people make tracks. Attachment chain, bicycle chain, and pads attached to flat rubber belt are just a few. You're not going to get a useful answer to how do I get tracks? here, because it's already been covered in detail (with pictures, even) in the build discussions on the website. We can't explain it any clearer than that. There are no step-by-step with plans Here is how to build a tank guides. (Well, there's one; you can get Bill Johns' Sherman plans, but you'll still have to figure out the R/C and paintball marker on your own.) You're going to have to do the heavy lifting on the design work yourself. We're glad to provide advice and support, but you're going to have to match that with hard work and dedication to your project. That starts with sitting down and reading the information in the FAQ and the build descriptions. Take notes as you go through the pages. Decide what methods you are able to use, or willing to learn to use. Research tanks and decide which one you want to build. Find more research on that tank, drawings, etc. that you can work from while building the tank. That's where you need to start, and we can't do it for you. Do the research. Read what the people before you have provided, and learn everything you can from their mistakes. If you're not willing to do that work now, you're going to have a hard time when construction starts getting difficult. And above all, have fun. Building the tank is as much a part of the hobby as fighting with it. -- -Bill Hamilton --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You are currently subscribed to the R/C Tank Combat group. To post a message, send email to rctankcombat@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe, send email to rctankcombat-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com Visit the group at http://groups.google.com/group/rctankcombat -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
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Rick, Contact MAG Industries c/o Tri-Pact Foundry Inc. They have successfully built and battled, Tiger I, Panzer IV, KV-1, Comet, Navarone 16 Naval Gun, Pak 40 Anti-tank gun, and a 155mm howitzer. In conjuction with Tyng Industries, built the Goer supply vehicle. Current project is a commissioned (cash payment) vehicle for the Alliance of Las Vegas. The Brummbar will include the most up to date (guinea pig) systems to be used in our hobby. So, pick a vehicle,decide what esoteric components you would like to have,re: smoke generator, laser sight, remote video cam for realistic fog of war battling, or low friction paint to reduce ball breakage. MAG Industries will then price your special vehicle. Production will commence upon receipt of the non-refundable 50% deposit. For an extra fee the vehicle will be delivered to your doorstep, along with a tech to walk you through the basic operations. No warranties or guarantees are implied or given due to the fact that MAG Industries just does not do dat. Hope this helps. By the way, I am totally affiliated with the above organization and would have a vested interest in any and all financial transactions . LOL. Welcome to the group. John new M1 motor mount pics at T-12 sight Pittelli On Apr 13, 11:39 pm, rbunc...@aol.com wrote: Very cool, so where do you get the batteries,drive system and tracks ? **Access 350+ FREE radio stations anytime from anywhere on the web. Get the Radio Toolbar! (http://toolbar.aol.com/aolradio/download.html?ncid=emlcntusdown0002) --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You are currently subscribed to the R/C Tank Combat group. To post a message, send email to rctankcombat@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe, send email to rctankcombat-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com Visit the group at http://groups.google.com/group/rctankcombat -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
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Thanks for the advice, i can see that i will fit right in, how do i contact Joe ? Rick **Great deals on Dell’s most popular laptops – Starting at $479 (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1220631252x1201390195/aol?redir=http:%2F%2Fad.doubleclick.net%2Fclk%3B213968550%3B35701427%3Bh) --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You are currently subscribed to the R/C Tank Combat group. To post a message, send email to rctankcombat@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe, send email to rctankcombat-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com Visit the group at http://groups.google.com/group/rctankcombat -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
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And look through the gallery. There is a lot to be gleaned from that. Also, http://www.gizmology.net/tanks.htm is an indpeth 1/5 scale sherman plan. Just rescale to 1/6. On Mon, Apr 13, 2009 at 11:56 AM, Tango71 tango...@gmail.com wrote: Read the faq's and build one. On Apr 12, 9:44 am, rbunc...@aol.com wrote: Im new to this but have always been a ww2 history buff abd wouldnt mind getting a rc tank but have no idea where to start. Rick --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You are currently subscribed to the R/C Tank Combat group. To post a message, send email to rctankcombat@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe, send email to rctankcombat-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com Visit the group at http://groups.google.com/group/rctankcombat -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
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Thanks, im trying to learn, got one email a guy just look at the faqs and build one, wish it were that easy **Access 350+ FREE radio stations anytime from anywhere on the web. Get the Radio Toolbar! (http://toolbar.aol.com/aolradio/download.html?ncid=emlweusdown0035ncid=emlcntusdown0002) --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You are currently subscribed to the R/C Tank Combat group. To post a message, send email to rctankcombat@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe, send email to rctankcombat-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com Visit the group at http://groups.google.com/group/rctankcombat -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
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I feel unqualified to offer advice since I've ignored every bit of advice offered which is why my Valentine is incomplete after several years of desultary building. However I would suggest that picking any tank you fancy and getting stuck in is better than (what I did) making lists of tanks and comparing their pros and cons. And the this site- http://www.the-blueprints.com/blueprints/tanks/ - has some good three views for when you start. On Apr 12, 5:44 pm, rbunc...@aol.com wrote: Im new to this but have always been a ww2 history buff abd wouldnt mind getting a rc tank but have no idea where to start. Rick --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You are currently subscribed to the R/C Tank Combat group. To post a message, send email to rctankcombat@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe, send email to rctankcombat-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com Visit the group at http://groups.google.com/group/rctankcombat -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[TANKS] Re: New to this hobby
This one is mine: http://www.rctankcombat.com/tanks/T065/ (Clicking on the pics makes them bigger) Some more pics and vids: http://s154.photobucket.com/albums/s265/nitzerebbhead/Sturmtiger/ Yet more vids: http://www.youtube.com/user/nitzerebbhead Derek T065 On Mon, Apr 13, 2009 at 1:31 PM, Pureteenlard pureteenl...@hotmail.comwrote: I feel unqualified to offer advice since I've ignored every bit of advice offered which is why my Valentine is incomplete after several years of desultary building. However I would suggest that picking any tank you fancy and getting stuck in is better than (what I did) making lists of tanks and comparing their pros and cons. And the this site- http://www.the-blueprints.com/blueprints/tanks/ - has some good three views for when you start. On Apr 12, 5:44 pm, rbunc...@aol.com wrote: Im new to this but have always been a ww2 history buff abd wouldnt mind getting a rc tank but have no idea where to start. Rick --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You are currently subscribed to the R/C Tank Combat group. To post a message, send email to rctankcombat@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe, send email to rctankcombat-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com Visit the group at http://groups.google.com/group/rctankcombat -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
