Re: [TANKS] update on Talons
C is the peak discharge constant. Multiply it by the batteries capacity to get the actual peak discharge amount. a 2C 2Ah battery would therefore have a peak discharge of 2*2 = 4A. Those batteries are 5000mAh or 5Ah 20C. So 5 * 20 = 100A. 4 of them in parallel = 400A peak current output On Sunday, 25 May 2014 10:41:05 UTC+1, neroc1 wrote: > > These lipo`s look like a wonderful power solution ,inexpensive and > lightweight. > do you run them in pairs giving you half hour @ 22.2v / pair ? > What is the "C" in- "*Discharge*: 20C Constant / 30C Burst" ? > Is "C" the new letter for Amp , or am I missing something ? > > Neil R > > > su100t34 wrote: >> >> I use 4 and get an hour's run time. Then they can be changed back up in >> a hour. I use 350 watt scooter motors . >> Will Montgomery >> > -- -- You are currently subscribed to the "R/C Tank Combat" group. To post a message, send email to rctankcombat@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe, send email to rctankcombat+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com Visit the group at http://groups.google.com/group/rctankcombat --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "R/C Tank Combat" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rctankcombat+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
RE: [TANKS] update on Talons
Interesting! That means we can increase this fuse to 50Amps… The Talons are rated to over 100Amps I believe! The motors will take that amperage as well. That was some “wicked” driving Mr. Tyng! Or that tree stump was too steep for that Tiger… Loic -- -- You are currently subscribed to the "R/C Tank Combat" group. To post a message, send email to rctankcombat@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe, send email to rctankcombat+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com Visit the group at http://groups.google.com/group/rctankcombat --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "R/C Tank Combat" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rctankcombat+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. <>
Re: [TANKS] update on Talons
Happy to report that the drive issue with the FOA Tiger was not a blown Talon. It blew the 30A fuse protecting that Talon. ST On Friday, May 23, 2014 4:18:25 PM UTC-4, TyngTech wrote: > > I lost the left drive on the FOA Tiger on the last battle. I haven't > troubleshooted yet. I'll know this weekend if it was a failed ESC or not. > > Steve > > On Friday, May 23, 2014 11:46:45 AM UTC-4, RocketMan wrote: >> >> Has anybody else had bad experiences with Talons ? They seemed like a >> good, cost effective, alternative. >> I've been using the same two Victor 883's for six years without an issue. >> They are a little high priced but are very tough. >> >> - Doug >> >> -- >> *From: *"Joe Sommer" >> *To: *"rctankcombat" >> *Sent: *Friday, May 23, 2014 10:53:26 AM >> *Subject: *[TANKS] update on Talons >> >> >> Hetzer T010 used the following drive system during >> recent battles on May 18. >> >> two Makita drill motors >> two 12V 18Ah batteries wired in series (24V) >> two Talons - Coast (not Brake) setting, no cooling fans >> IMX-1 mixer >> >> Bad news - The Hetzer fried two original Talons (not SR) during the >> second sortie of the first battle (Defend the Town). The IMX-1 was >> not damaged. >> >> Air temperature was not hot and the failure occurred early in the >> second sortie with about 20 minute break between sorties. >> Consequently, I do not believe that it was a thermal failure. >> >> The failure did occur while performing rapid reversal steering >> maneuvers in very tall grass. The failure was probably due >> to impedance reversal spikes. >> >> Good news - It only required about 20 minutes to replace the dead >> Talons with two new Talon SRs. >> >> The new Talons SRs did not fry during the second battle (Fox and >> Hounds). >> >> Joe >> >> >> -- >> -- >> You are currently subscribed to the "R/C Tank Combat" group. >> To post a message, send email to rctank...@googlegroups.com >> To unsubscribe, send email to rctankcombat...@googlegroups.com >> Visit the group at http://groups.google.com/group/rctankcombat >> >> --- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "R/C Tank Combat" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to rctankcombat...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >> >> -- -- You are currently subscribed to the "R/C Tank Combat" group. To post a message, send email to rctankcombat@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe, send email to rctankcombat+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com Visit the group at http://groups.google.com/group/rctankcombat --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "R/C Tank Combat" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rctankcombat+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [TANKS] update on Talons
These lipo`s look like a wonderful power solution ,inexpensive and lightweight. do you run them in pairs giving you half hour @ 22.2v / pair ? What is the "C" in- "*Discharge*: 20C Constant / 30C Burst" ? Is "C" the new letter for Amp , or am I missing something ? Neil R su100t34 wrote: > > I use 4 and get an hour's run time. Then they can be changed back up in a > hour. I use 350 watt scooter motors . > Will Montgomery > -- -- You are currently subscribed to the "R/C Tank Combat" group. To post a message, send email to rctankcombat@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe, send email to rctankcombat+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com Visit the group at http://groups.google.com/group/rctankcombat --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "R/C Tank Combat" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rctankcombat+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [TANKS] update on Talons
I use 4 and get an hour's run time. Then they can be changed back up in a hour. I use 350 watt scooter motors . Will Montgomery Sent from my Samsung Galaxy S®III Original message From: Derek Engelhaupt Date:05/24/2014 11:42 PM (GMT-05:00) To: rctankcombat@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [TANKS] update on Talons Wouldn't you need quite a few of them to power our tanks? Derek On Fri, May 23, 2014 at 7:56 PM, 'Will Montgomery' via R/C Tank Combat wrote: http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/__16786__ZIPPY_Flightmax_5000mAh_3S1P_20C_USA_Warehouse_.html -Original Message- From: Joe Sommer To: rctankcombat Sent: Fri, May 23, 2014 8:42 pm Subject: Re: [TANKS] update on Talons On Friday, May 23, 2014 5:40:03 PM UTC-4, su100t34 wrote: These are the lipo's I use. Will Those are the most unusual LiPo's that I have ever seen. -- -- You are currently subscribed to the "R/C Tank Combat" group. To post a message, send email to rctankcombat@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe, send email to rctankcombat+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com Visit the group at http://groups.google.com/group/rctankcombat --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "R/C Tank Combat" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rctankcombat+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- -- You are currently subscribed to the "R/C Tank Combat" group. To post a message, send email to rctankcombat@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe, send email to rctankcombat+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com Visit the group at http://groups.google.com/group/rctankcombat --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "R/C Tank Combat" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rctankcombat+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- -- You are currently subscribed to the "R/C Tank Combat" group. To post a message, send email to rctankcombat@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe, send email to rctankcombat+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com Visit the group at http://groups.google.com/group/rctankcombat --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "R/C Tank Combat" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rctankcombat+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- -- You are currently subscribed to the "R/C Tank Combat" group. To post a message, send email to rctankcombat@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe, send email to rctankcombat+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com Visit the group at http://groups.google.com/group/rctankcombat --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "R/C Tank Combat" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rctankcombat+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [TANKS] update on Talons
Wouldn't you need quite a few of them to power our tanks? Derek On Fri, May 23, 2014 at 7:56 PM, 'Will Montgomery' via R/C Tank Combat < rctankcombat@googlegroups.com> wrote: > > http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/__16786__ZIPPY_Flightmax_5000mAh_3S1P_20C_USA_Warehouse_.html > > > > -Original Message- > From: Joe Sommer > To: rctankcombat > Sent: Fri, May 23, 2014 8:42 pm > Subject: Re: [TANKS] update on Talons > > > > On Friday, May 23, 2014 5:40:03 PM UTC-4, su100t34 wrote: >> >> These are the lipo's I use. >> Will >> > > Those are the most unusual LiPo's that I have ever seen. > > > -- > -- > You are currently subscribed to the "R/C Tank Combat" group. > To post a message, send email to rctankcombat@googlegroups.com > To unsubscribe, send email to rctankcombat+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > Visit the group at http://groups.google.com/group/rctankcombat > > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "R/C Tank Combat" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to rctankcombat+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > -- > -- > You are currently subscribed to the "R/C Tank Combat" group. > To post a message, send email to rctankcombat@googlegroups.com > To unsubscribe, send email to rctankcombat+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > Visit the group at http://groups.google.com/group/rctankcombat > > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "R/C Tank Combat" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to rctankcombat+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- -- You are currently subscribed to the "R/C Tank Combat" group. To post a message, send email to rctankcombat@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe, send email to rctankcombat+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com Visit the group at http://groups.google.com/group/rctankcombat --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "R/C Tank Combat" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rctankcombat+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [TANKS] update on Talons
http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/__16786__ZIPPY_Flightmax_5000mAh_3S1P_20C_USA_Warehouse_.html -Original Message- From: Joe Sommer To: rctankcombat Sent: Fri, May 23, 2014 8:42 pm Subject: Re: [TANKS] update on Talons On Friday, May 23, 2014 5:40:03 PM UTC-4, su100t34 wrote: These are the lipo's I use. Will Those are the most unusual LiPo's that I have ever seen. -- -- You are currently subscribed to the "R/C Tank Combat" group. To post a message, send email to rctankcombat@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe, send email to rctankcombat+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com Visit the group at http://groups.google.com/group/rctankcombat --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "R/C Tank Combat" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rctankcombat+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- -- You are currently subscribed to the "R/C Tank Combat" group. To post a message, send email to rctankcombat@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe, send email to rctankcombat+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com Visit the group at http://groups.google.com/group/rctankcombat --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "R/C Tank Combat" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rctankcombat+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [TANKS] update on Talons
On Friday, May 23, 2014 5:40:03 PM UTC-4, su100t34 wrote: > > These are the lipo's I use. > Will > Those are the most unusual LiPo's that I have ever seen. -- -- You are currently subscribed to the "R/C Tank Combat" group. To post a message, send email to rctankcombat@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe, send email to rctankcombat+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com Visit the group at http://groups.google.com/group/rctankcombat --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "R/C Tank Combat" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rctankcombat+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [TANKS] update on Talons
These are the lipo's I use. https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/demand-release-usmc-sgt-tahmooressi-suffering-ptsd-mexico-imprisonment/qslJk2Xd Will -Original Message- From: TyngTech To: rctankcombat Sent: Fri, May 23, 2014 4:18 pm Subject: Re: [TANKS] update on Talons I lost the left drive on the FOA Tiger on the last battle. I haven't troubleshooted yet. I'll know this weekend if it was a failed ESC or not. Steve On Friday, May 23, 2014 11:46:45 AM UTC-4, RocketMan wrote: Has anybody else had bad experiences with Talons ? They seemed like a good, cost effective, alternative. I've been using the same two Victor 883's for six years without an issue. They are a little high priced but are very tough. - Doug From: "Joe Sommer" To: "rctankcombat" Sent: Friday, May 23, 2014 10:53:26 AM Subject: [TANKS] update on Talons Hetzer T010 used the following drive system during recent battles on May 18. two Makita drill motors two 12V 18Ah batteries wired in series (24V) two Talons - Coast (not Brake) setting, no cooling fans IMX-1 mixer Bad news - The Hetzer fried two original Talons (not SR) during the second sortie of the first battle (Defend the Town). The IMX-1 was not damaged. Air temperature was not hot and the failure occurred early in the second sortie with about 20 minute break between sorties. Consequently, I do not believe that it was a thermal failure. The failure did occur while performing rapid reversal steering maneuvers in very tall grass. The failure was probably due to impedance reversal spikes. Good news - It only required about 20 minutes to replace the dead Talons with two new Talon SRs. The new Talons SRs did not fry during the second battle (Fox and Hounds). Joe -- -- You are currently subscribed to the "R/C Tank Combat" group. To post a message, send email to rctank...@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe, send email to rctankcombat...@googlegroups.com Visit the group at http://groups.google.com/group/rctankcombat --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "R/C Tank Combat" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rctankcombat...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- -- You are currently subscribed to the "R/C Tank Combat" group. To post a message, send email to rctankcombat@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe, send email to rctankcombat+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com Visit the group at http://groups.google.com/group/rctankcombat --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "R/C Tank Combat" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rctankcombat+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- -- You are currently subscribed to the "R/C Tank Combat" group. To post a message, send email to rctankcombat@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe, send email to rctankcombat+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com Visit the group at http://groups.google.com/group/rctankcombat --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "R/C Tank Combat" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rctankcombat+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [TANKS] update on Talons
I lost the left drive on the FOA Tiger on the last battle. I haven't troubleshooted yet. I'll know this weekend if it was a failed ESC or not. Steve On Friday, May 23, 2014 11:46:45 AM UTC-4, RocketMan wrote: > > Has anybody else had bad experiences with Talons ? They seemed like a > good, cost effective, alternative. > I've been using the same two Victor 883's for six years without an issue. > They are a little high priced but are very tough. > > - Doug > > -- > *From: *"Joe Sommer" > > *To: *"rctankcombat" > > *Sent: *Friday, May 23, 2014 10:53:26 AM > *Subject: *[TANKS] update on Talons > > > Hetzer T010 used the following drive system during > recent battles on May 18. > > two Makita drill motors > two 12V 18Ah batteries wired in series (24V) > two Talons - Coast (not Brake) setting, no cooling fans > IMX-1 mixer > > Bad news - The Hetzer fried two original Talons (not SR) during the > second sortie of the first battle (Defend the Town). The IMX-1 was > not damaged. > > Air temperature was not hot and the failure occurred early in the > second sortie with about 20 minute break between sorties. > Consequently, I do not believe that it was a thermal failure. > > The failure did occur while performing rapid reversal steering > maneuvers in very tall grass. The failure was probably due > to impedance reversal spikes. > > Good news - It only required about 20 minutes to replace the dead > Talons with two new Talon SRs. > > The new Talons SRs did not fry during the second battle (Fox and > Hounds). > > Joe > > > -- > -- > You are currently subscribed to the "R/C Tank Combat" group. > To post a message, send email to rctank...@googlegroups.com > To unsubscribe, send email to rctankcombat...@googlegroups.com > Visit the group at http://groups.google.com/group/rctankcombat > > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "R/C Tank Combat" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to rctankcombat...@googlegroups.com . > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > -- -- You are currently subscribed to the "R/C Tank Combat" group. To post a message, send email to rctankcombat@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe, send email to rctankcombat+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com Visit the group at http://groups.google.com/group/rctankcombat --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "R/C Tank Combat" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rctankcombat+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [TANKS] update on Talons
On Friday, May 23, 2014 11:46:45 AM UTC-4, RocketMan wrote: > > Has anybody else had bad experiences with Talons ? They seemed like a > good, cost effective, alternative. > I've been using the same two Victor 883's for six years without an issue. > They are a little high priced but are very tough. > > Doug, I would not classify this as a "bad experience". Please remember that the Hetzer is driven very hard by a crazy man. She must be steered to aim her gun. In my opinion, Talons are still the most cost effective solution for our tanks. I simply wanted people to know that they are not indestructible. I read some more details about the improved Talon SR. I believe that the new "Synchronous Sign Magnitude Rectification" in the SR should be more robust for sudden motor reversal than the old "Locked Antiphase Rectification" in the Talons that I fried. We shall see if the Hetzer fries Talon SRs in future battles. Exponential throttle response (versus linear) would also help this sudden reversal problem. Perhaps someday Cross the Road Electronics with introduce a Talon SR with an exponential throttle option. Joe -- -- You are currently subscribed to the "R/C Tank Combat" group. To post a message, send email to rctankcombat@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe, send email to rctankcombat+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com Visit the group at http://groups.google.com/group/rctankcombat --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "R/C Tank Combat" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rctankcombat+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [TANKS] update on Talons
We used 9 talons with fans during first robotics. Only good things to say about them. On 2014-05-23 10:53 AM, "Joe Sommer" wrote: > > Hetzer T010 used the following drive system during > recent battles on May 18. > > two Makita drill motors > two 12V 18Ah batteries wired in series (24V) > two Talons - Coast (not Brake) setting, no cooling fans > IMX-1 mixer > > Bad news - The Hetzer fried two original Talons (not SR) during the > second sortie of the first battle (Defend the Town). The IMX-1 was > not damaged. > > Air temperature was not hot and the failure occurred early in the > second sortie with about 20 minute break between sorties. > Consequently, I do not believe that it was a thermal failure. > > The failure did occur while performing rapid reversal steering > maneuvers in very tall grass. The failure was probably due > to impedance reversal spikes. > > Good news - It only required about 20 minutes to replace the dead > Talons with two new Talon SRs. > > The new Talons SRs did not fry during the second battle (Fox and > Hounds). > > Joe > > > -- > -- > You are currently subscribed to the "R/C Tank Combat" group. > To post a message, send email to rctankcombat@googlegroups.com > To unsubscribe, send email to rctankcombat+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > Visit the group at http://groups.google.com/group/rctankcombat > > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "R/C Tank Combat" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to rctankcombat+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- -- You are currently subscribed to the "R/C Tank Combat" group. To post a message, send email to rctankcombat@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe, send email to rctankcombat+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com Visit the group at http://groups.google.com/group/rctankcombat --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "R/C Tank Combat" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rctankcombat+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [TANKS] update on Talons
Has anybody else had bad experiences with Talons ? They seemed like a good, cost effective, alternative. I've been using the same two Victor 883's for six years without an issue. They are a little high priced but are very tough. - Doug - Original Message - From: "Joe Sommer" To: "rctankcombat" Sent: Friday, May 23, 2014 10:53:26 AM Subject: [TANKS] update on Talons Hetzer T010 used the following drive system during recent battles on May 18. two Makita drill motors two 12V 18Ah batteries wired in series (24V) two Talons - Coast (not Brake) setting, no cooling fans IMX-1 mixer Bad news - The Hetzer fried two original Talons (not SR) during the second sortie of the first battle (Defend the Town). The IMX-1 was not damaged. Air temperature was not hot and the failure occurred early in the second sortie with about 20 minute break between sorties. Consequently, I do not believe that it was a thermal failure. The failure did occur while performing rapid reversal steering maneuvers in very tall grass. The failure was probably due to impedance reversal spikes. Good news - It only required about 20 minutes to replace the dead Talons with two new Talon SRs. The new Talons SRs did not fry during the second battle (Fox and Hounds). Joe -- -- You are currently subscribed to the "R/C Tank Combat" group. To post a message, send email to rctankcombat@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe, send email to rctankcombat+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com Visit the group at http://groups.google.com/group/rctankcombat --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "R/C Tank Combat" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rctankcombat+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout . -- -- You are currently subscribed to the "R/C Tank Combat" group. To post a message, send email to rctankcombat@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe, send email to rctankcombat+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com Visit the group at http://groups.google.com/group/rctankcombat --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "R/C Tank Combat" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rctankcombat+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
