Re: [RE-wrenches] 48 volt battery charger.

[Howie Michaelson]

Jerry,
Do you have any recommended manu's for these type chargers. Occasionally I
run into situations where this type of solution could be a reasonable
option.
Thanks,
Howie

Howie Michaelson
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On Jun 10, 2016 10:04 PM, "Jerry Shafer"  wrote:
>
> Wrenches
> There are several 48 volt golf cart chargers out there with a varity of
outputs and some programable for different batteries. They work well with
even dirty gennies and use a shunt in the set up so there is no fmdc
issues. I use this set up when l cant take a chance on switch over issues
or noises.
> Jerry
>
> On Jun 10, 2016 11:17 AM, "Jay"  wrote:
>>
>> Hi Gary
>>
>> Well if the customer wants it that way. It'll work no issues.
>> I agree with the IBE.
>> IBE make big industrial ones.
>> I'm not sure what other big options there are.
>> Iota or power source make smaller solid state ones, that you would scale
to your needs.
>> As it sounds like he's got industrial batteries, you'll want to find the
correct size based on the battery specific info.
>>
>> Jay
>> Peltz power
>>
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
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>> > On Jun 10, 2016, at 7:50 AM, gary easton  wrote:
>> >
>> > I have a customer that has an 8 kW outback radian system with a
516amphr 48 volt battery bank.  He also has a large generator to power some
large loads.  He does not want the generator tied to the outback. He does
not like automatic features but would like to run a simple battery charger
whenever he has the generator running.  Is this an issue with the outback
system? And if not does anyone have a charger they recommend in this
application?
>> >
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Re: [RE-wrenches] 48 volt battery charger.

[Jerry Shafer]

Wrenches
There are several 48 volt golf cart chargers out there with a varity of
outputs and some programable for different batteries. They work well with
even dirty gennies and use a shunt in the set up so there is no fmdc
issues. I use this set up when l cant take a chance on switch over issues
or noises.
Jerry
On Jun 10, 2016 11:17 AM, "Jay"  wrote:

> Hi Gary
>
> Well if the customer wants it that way. It'll work no issues.
> I agree with the IBE.
> IBE make big industrial ones.
> I'm not sure what other big options there are.
> Iota or power source make smaller solid state ones, that you would scale
> to your needs.
> As it sounds like he's got industrial batteries, you'll want to find the
> correct size based on the battery specific info.
>
> Jay
> Peltz power
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Jun 10, 2016, at 7:50 AM, gary easton  wrote:
> >
> > I have a customer that has an 8 kW outback radian system with a 516amphr
> 48 volt battery bank.  He also has a large generator to power some large
> loads.  He does not want the generator tied to the outback. He does not
> like automatic features but would like to run a simple battery charger
> whenever he has the generator running.  Is this an issue with the outback
> system? And if not does anyone have a charger they recommend in this
> application?
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Re: [RE-wrenches] 48 volt battery charger.

[Jay]

Hi Gary

Well if the customer wants it that way. It'll work no issues. 
I agree with the IBE. 
IBE make big industrial ones. 
I'm not sure what other big options there are. 
Iota or power source make smaller solid state ones, that you would scale to 
your needs. 
As it sounds like he's got industrial batteries, you'll want to find the 
correct size based on the battery specific info. 

Jay
Peltz power


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> On Jun 10, 2016, at 7:50 AM, gary easton  wrote:
> 
> I have a customer that has an 8 kW outback radian system with a 516amphr 48 
> volt battery bank.  He also has a large generator to power some large loads.  
> He does not want the generator tied to the outback. He does not like 
> automatic features but would like to run a simple battery charger whenever he 
> has the generator running.  Is this an issue with the outback system? And if 
> not does anyone have a charger they recommend in this application?  
> 
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Re: [RE-wrenches] 48 volt battery charger.

[Chris Worcester]

Hi Gary,

25 years ago I bought an IBE industrial rated charger to top off my IBE 
batteries with the gen set. If your client just can’t get over hooking up the 
radian to the gen set, you might just check out IBE and see if they are still 
making these, as mine is still working. http://www.ibe-inc.com/index.htm 

 

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Subject: [RE-wrenches] 48 volt battery charger.

 

I have a customer that has an 8 kW outback radian system with a 516amphr 48 
volt battery bank.  He also has a large generator to power some large loads.  
He does not want the generator tied to the outback. He does not like automatic 
features but would like to run a simple battery charger whenever he has the 
generator running.  Is this an issue with the outback system? And if not does 
anyone have a charger they recommend in this application?  

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Re: [RE-wrenches] 48 volt battery charger.

[Steve Higgins]

>From a battery manufacture...

My question would be: Is the Generator large enough to handle 12-14Kw of
total (Pass thru/Charging) load?   If so then my comment to the client
would be "What, you want to spend more money when you have a 120amp
available charger?"   There is no reason to do this with the Radian, its a
good charger.  Just like any charger just make sure your settings are
programmed correctly for the batteries used.

If not then you can adjust the max current draw from the Radian... It may
take a little tweaking, but with that small of a bank they really don't
need much generator source.

It'll be another $1000.00+ to install a secondary charger...




 
 
 
 

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On Fri, Jun 10, 2016 at 7:50 AM, gary easton  wrote:

> I have a customer that has an 8 kW outback radian system with a 516amphr
> 48 volt battery bank.  He also has a large generator to power some large
> loads.  He does not want the generator tied to the outback. He
> does not like automatic features but would like to run a simple battery
> charger whenever he has the generator running.  Is this an issue with the
> outback system? And if not does anyone have a charger they recommend in
> this application?
>
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Re: [RE-wrenches] 48 volt battery charger.

[Dan Fink]

Tell your client that the Outback Radian is an "inverter/charger" and the
only things that need to programmed for charging via generator or grid are
bulk, absorb, float and equalize. Nothing needs to be set on automatic.
Adding an external charger would be a waste of money. How about telling
them "Whenever the generator is running, it powers your big load and still
uses all extra energy to charge the battery bank?"

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On Fri, Jun 10, 2016 at 8:56 AM, Howie Michaelson 
wrote:

> Gary,
> Is this an off-grid system? In any case, there is no reason that
> connecting the generator through the Radian means the batteries will charge
> automatically.  And to not use the native charging capabilities of the
> Radian doesn't make much sense financially or functionally.  Any other
> charger will either not charge the bank very well or will add substantial
> cost and control issues.
>
> Howie
>
> *Howie Michaelson*
> *NABCEP Certified Solar PV Installer™*
> Sun Catcher, LLC
> Renewable Energy Systems Sales and Service
> VT Solar Electric Incentive Partner
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> On Fri, Jun 10, 2016 at 10:50 AM, gary easton  wrote:
>
>> I have a customer that has an 8 kW outback radian system with a 516amphr
>> 48 volt battery bank.  He also has a large generator to power some large
>> loads.  He does not want the generator tied to the outback. He
>> does not like automatic features but would like to run a simple battery
>> charger whenever he has the generator running.  Is this an issue with the
>> outback system? And if not does anyone have a charger they recommend in
>> this application?
>>
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Re: [RE-wrenches] 48 volt battery charger.

[Howie Michaelson]

Gary,
Is this an off-grid system? In any case, there is no reason that connecting
the generator through the Radian means the batteries will charge
automatically.  And to not use the native charging capabilities of the
Radian doesn't make much sense financially or functionally.  Any other
charger will either not charge the bank very well or will add substantial
cost and control issues.

Howie

*Howie Michaelson*
*NABCEP Certified Solar PV Installer™*
Sun Catcher, LLC
Renewable Energy Systems Sales and Service
VT Solar Electric Incentive Partner
802-272-0004

On Fri, Jun 10, 2016 at 10:50 AM, gary easton  wrote:

> I have a customer that has an 8 kW outback radian system with a 516amphr
> 48 volt battery bank.  He also has a large generator to power some large
> loads.  He does not want the generator tied to the outback. He
> does not like automatic features but would like to run a simple battery
> charger whenever he has the generator running.  Is this an issue with the
> outback system? And if not does anyone have a charger they recommend in
> this application?
>
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[RE-wrenches] 48 volt battery charger.

[gary easton]

I have a customer that has an 8 kW outback radian system with a 516amphr 48
volt battery bank.  He also has a large generator to power some large
loads.  He does not want the generator tied to the outback. He
does not like automatic features but would like to run a simple battery
charger whenever he has the generator running.  Is this an issue with the
outback system? And if not does anyone have a charger they recommend in
this application?

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