Re: [RE-wrenches] Radian Generator Relay

[Kent]

William,

Years ago we tried using the relay in the FNDC with a system of sealed 
Outback FX inverters.  After a few times call backs about the generator 
being left running long after it should have stopped, I discovered that 
the problem was indeed caused by the relay in the FNDC. That relay is a 
latching type and Outback sends the signal for it to change state only 
once; they don't check to see if it actually changed state (apparently 
the hardware wasn't set up to allow that); and they don't send a second 
signal to improve the chance of a successful operation. You know the 
screen in the Mate where they keep a tally of communication errors, not 
sure that is comm errors at unfortunate times are the cause or not, but 
I suspect it is. Maybe the relay in this FNDC was sluggish because in 
the garage temperatures could occasionally got lower than 0°C - the 
lower limit of the FNDC. Whatever the cause, we decided that the FNDC 
relay was not suitable for starting and stopping a generator. I ended up 
re-purposing the FX's external vent fan to control the generator (and 
fan) and never had any more trouble. The fan is rarely needed except 
while charging batteries with the generator, and the inverter has the 
ability to reduce its output if it is too hot.


Kent Osterberg

Blue Mountain Solar


On 9/14/2021 5:56 PM, William Miller wrote:


Friends:

A couple of years ago we installed an all sealed Outback FX system.  
All of the FX inverters were equipped with Turbo fans which connect to 
the relay in the inverters so those were not available for generator 
starting.  A senior Outback tech support person (one who has been with 
Outback for a long time) told me the relay in the FNDC was not 
reliable. Instead it was suggested that I use the relay in an Outback 
Extreme charge controller that was part of the system.  I never tried 
the relay in the FNDC so I don’t have first-hand knowledge if the 
relay is reliable or not.  Can anyone confirm or debunk this assertion?


Remember the Extreme 
?  
It was the precursor to the FlexMax 100.  It is discontinued.


William

Miller Solar

17395 Oak Road, Atascadero, CA 93422

805-438-5600

www.millersolar.com 

CA Lic. 773985

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*Subject:* Re: [RE-wrenches] Radian Generator Relay

Actually I’m using the 12V relay to activate a battery vent fan. For 
generator starting, I’m using the dry contact relay for two-wire 
start. I have the circuit protected by a 2amp fast acting fuse. Fuse 
is good.




On Sep 14, 2021, at 11:10 AM, Tuss, Lones > wrote:


Hi Michael

It sound like you are using the 12 volt aux out on the radian to 
activate a separate relay.


If so disconnect the relay then check and see if the 12 aux attempts 
to go high (12v dc).


If it does it may be a relay issue.

The Radian does have an on board relay you could use that instead of a 
discrete relay.


In AGS on the Mate3(s) just select Relay.

I hope this helps sir.

Take Care

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Wrenches,

I’ve got a Radian 8048/Mate 3S that no longer is activating the relay 
responsible for generator starting. I’ve power cycled everything and 
updated firmware. When I attempt to start the generator via the Mate 
3S, the relay does not close.


Any suggestions before I look into replacing the relay/board?

Which board do I order and what is the best source?

Many thanks,

Michael

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Re: [RE-wrenches] Radian Generator Relay

[jay]

HI Michael,

It was for 2 reasons.  If both relays are bad then yes the board needs 
replacing.

But also its easy to work in the radian to add a 12v relay cube to give you the 
dry contact you need.  

Vs going into the back of the FNDC.  And I don’t know what anyone else has 
heard but OB tech support told me years ago not to use the FNDC relay for AGS.
I had been using it for AGS and was having some intermittent issues. Changed it 
to the inverter and didn’t have any more issues.

Here is the relay that you need to make it dry contact.
https://www.allelectronics.com/item/rly-351/12vdc-spdt-40a-automotive-relay/1.html
the wiring socket is on the same page.

I prefer using this method as this relay is really cheap and easy to replace 
and very reliable.

jay

> On Sep 14, 2021, at 3:00 PM, Michael Morningstar  
> wrote:
> 
> I did not check whether or not the 12v relay was functional.
> I think I see where you are going. If the 12V relay isn’t working also, then 
> the issue is elsewhere? Is that correct?
>  
> I did look into using the FNDC relay, however it appears that it’s control is 
> through the FNDC menu. Things are so simple when all my client has to do to 
> control the generator is push the GEN button and choose a mode. Searching for 
> the FNDC menu adds a layer of complexity.
> However,
> What I’m seeing is that the board that the relay is on is part of a stack 
> boards that costs 2K. So, it sounds like my options are to check to see if 
> the 12v relay functions and then use that to drive a relay, or use the FNDC 
> relay, or spend 2k for the board stack.
> 
> Michael
> 
>> On Sep 14, 2021, at 11:10 AM, Jay > > wrote:
>> 
>> There are two relays on that board, one dry one 12v. 
>> 
>> Aux output
>> And
>> Aux relay
>> 
>> Do both not work?
>> 
>> Jay
>> 
>>> On Sep 14, 2021, at 11:55 AM, Michael Morningstar >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Wrenches,
>>> 
>>> I’ve got a Radian 8048/Mate 3S that no longer is activating the relay 
>>> responsible for generator starting. I’ve power cycled everything and 
>>> updated firmware. When I attempt to start the generator via the Mate 3S, 
>>> the relay does not close.
>>> 
>>> Any suggestions before I look into replacing the relay/board?
>>> 
>>> Which board do I order and what is the best source?
>>> 
>>> Many thanks,
>>> Michael
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Michael Morningstar
>>> 
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>>> PO Box 1494
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Re: [RE-wrenches] Radian Generator Relay

[William Miller]

Friends:



A couple of years ago we installed an all sealed Outback FX system.  All of
the FX inverters were equipped with Turbo fans which connect to the relay
in the inverters so those were not available for generator starting.  A
senior Outback tech support person (one who has been with Outback for a
long time) told me the relay in the FNDC was not reliable.  Instead it was
suggested that I use the relay in an Outback Extreme charge controller that
was part of the system.  I never tried the relay in the FNDC so I don’t
have first-hand knowledge if the relay is reliable or not.  Can anyone
confirm or debunk this assertion?



Remember the Extreme
?
It was the precursor to the FlexMax 100.  It is discontinued.



William



Miller Solar

17395 Oak Road, Atascadero, CA 93422

805-438-5600

www.millersolar.com

CA Lic. 773985





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Actually I’m using the 12V relay to activate a battery vent fan. For
generator starting, I’m using the dry contact relay for two-wire start. I
have the circuit protected by a 2amp fast acting fuse. Fuse is good.





On Sep 14, 2021, at 11:10 AM, Tuss, Lones  wrote:



Hi Michael

It sound like you are using the 12 volt aux out on the radian to activate a
separate relay.

If so disconnect the relay then check and see if the 12 aux attempts to go
high (12v dc).

If it does it may be a relay issue.

The Radian does have an on board relay you could use that instead of a
discrete relay.

In AGS on the Mate3(s) just select Relay.

I hope this helps sir.

Take Care







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Wrenches,



I’ve got a Radian 8048/Mate 3S that no longer is activating the relay
responsible for generator starting. I’ve power cycled everything and
updated firmware. When I attempt to start the generator via the Mate 3S,
the relay does not close.



Any suggestions before I look into replacing the relay/board?



Which board do I order and what is the best source?



Many thanks,

Michael









*Michael Morningstar*





*Morningstar Electric*

PO Box 1494

Mount Shasta, California 96067

530-921-0560

CSLB 949635



  





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Re: [RE-wrenches] Radian Generator Relay

[Michael Morningstar]

All good tips. I will make sure AGS is enabled. Otherwise turn over generator 
starting to the FNDC. 
Thanks Everyone! 

> On Sep 14, 2021, at 3:59 PM, John Blittersdorf  
> wrote:
> 
> You may have alteady checked this but make sure AGS is enabled.  I had that 
> problem just this morning and after checking continuity of the wires again 
> noticed that AGS was disabled. 
> 
> John Blittersdorf 
> 
> On Tue, Sep 14, 2021 at 1:55 PM Michael Morningstar  > wrote:
> Wrenches,
> 
> I’ve got a Radian 8048/Mate 3S that no longer is activating the relay 
> responsible for generator starting. I’ve power cycled everything and updated 
> firmware. When I attempt to start the generator via the Mate 3S, the relay 
> does not close.
> 
> Any suggestions before I look into replacing the relay/board?
> 
> Which board do I order and what is the best source?
> 
> Many thanks,
> Michael
> 
> 
> 
> 
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Re: [RE-wrenches] Radian Generator Relay

[Tuss, Lones]

Hi Michael
This is where a direct conversation is good I tried to call but could not 
connect.
I thought you were using the AGS program on the Mate3S.
If you are in the set up in the AGS you can point it at the
Radian relay
Or the
Radian 12 volt aux
   If you want you can also point it to the port containing the FNDC
Of course you will have to wire it to the proper source

When your customer want to start the gen
Press the Gen button on the Mate3S
select ON
The FNDC rely will close and the gen should start
Select Off
The relay will open
Gen should stop
Select Auto
And the preset run conditions in the AGS will be valid.
I hope this helps.
Take Care



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I did not check whether or not the 12v relay was functional.
I think I see where you are going. If the 12V relay isn’t working also, then 
the issue is elsewhere? Is that correct?

I did look into using the FNDC relay, however it appears that it’s control is 
through the FNDC menu. Things are so simple when all my client has to do to 
control the generator is push the GEN button and choose a mode. Searching for 
the FNDC menu adds a layer of complexity.
However,
What I’m seeing is that the board that the relay is on is part of a stack 
boards that costs 2K. So, it sounds like my options are to check to see if the 
12v relay functions and then use that to drive a relay, or use the FNDC relay, 
or spend 2k for the board stack.

Michael


On Sep 14, 2021, at 11:10 AM, Jay 
mailto:jay.pe...@gmail.com>> wrote:

There are two relays on that board, one dry one 12v.

Aux output
And
Aux relay

Do both not work?

Jay


On Sep 14, 2021, at 11:55 AM, Michael Morningstar 
mailto:mjmornings...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Wrenches,

I’ve got a Radian 8048/Mate 3S that no longer is activating the relay 
responsible for generator starting. I’ve power cycled everything and updated 
firmware. When I attempt to start the generator via the Mate 3S, the relay does 
not close.

Any suggestions before I look into replacing the relay/board?

Which board do I order and what is the best source?

Many thanks,
Michael




Michael Morningstar


Morningstar Electric
PO Box 1494
Mount Shasta, California 96067
530-921-0560
CSLB 949635




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Re: [RE-wrenches] Radian Generator Relay

[John Blittersdorf]

You may have alteady checked this but make sure AGS is enabled.  I had that
problem just this morning and after checking continuity of the wires again
noticed that AGS was disabled.

John Blittersdorf

On Tue, Sep 14, 2021 at 1:55 PM Michael Morningstar 
wrote:

> Wrenches,
>
> I’ve got a Radian 8048/Mate 3S that no longer is activating the relay
> responsible for generator starting. I’ve power cycled everything and
> updated firmware. When I attempt to start the generator via the Mate 3S,
> the relay does not close.
>
> Any suggestions before I look into replacing the relay/board?
>
> Which board do I order and what is the best source?
>
> Many thanks,
> Michael
>
>
>
>
>
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Re: [RE-wrenches] Radian Generator Relay

[Tuss, Lones]

Hi Michael
Nicks suggestion on the FNDC is smart.
For parts on a 8048 try Zonna Energy.
https://www.zonnaenergy.com/



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Wrenches,

I’ve got a Radian 8048/Mate 3S that no longer is activating the relay 
responsible for generator starting. I’ve power cycled everything and updated 
firmware. When I attempt to start the generator via the Mate 3S, the relay does 
not close.

Any suggestions before I look into replacing the relay/board?

Which board do I order and what is the best source?

Many thanks,
Michael




Michael Morningstar


Morningstar Electric
PO Box 1494
Mount Shasta, California 96067
530-921-0560
CSLB 949635

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Re: [RE-wrenches] Radian Generator Relay

[Nick A Lucchese]

Any way you can just use the relay in the Flexnet or maybe there isn’t one 
installed on that system?

Nick

> On Sep 14, 2021, at 11:15 AM, Michael Morningstar  
> wrote:
> 
> Actually I’m using the 12V relay to activate a battery vent fan. For 
> generator starting, I’m using the dry contact relay for two-wire start. I 
> have the circuit protected by a 2amp fast acting fuse. Fuse is good.
> 
> 
>> On Sep 14, 2021, at 11:10 AM, Tuss, Lones > > wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Michael
>> It sound like you are using the 12 volt aux out on the radian to activate a 
>> separate relay.
>> If so disconnect the relay then check and see if the 12 aux attempts to go 
>> high (12v dc).
>> If it does it may be a relay issue.
>> The Radian does have an on board relay you could use that instead of a 
>> discrete relay.
>> In AGS on the Mate3(s) just select Relay.
>> I hope this helps sir.
>> Take Care
>>  
>>  
>>  
>> From: RE-wrenches > > On Behalf Of Michael 
>> Morningstar
>> Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2021 10:55 AM
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>> Subject: [RE-wrenches] Radian Generator Relay
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>> Wrenches, 
>>  
>> I’ve got a Radian 8048/Mate 3S that no longer is activating the relay 
>> responsible for generator starting. I’ve power cycled everything and updated 
>> firmware. When I attempt to start the generator via the Mate 3S, the relay 
>> does not close.
>>  
>> Any suggestions before I look into replacing the relay/board?
>>  
>> Which board do I order and what is the best source?
>>  
>> Many thanks,
>> Michael
>>  
>>  
>>  
>> 
>>  
>> Michael Morningstar
>>  
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Re: [RE-wrenches] Radian Generator Relay

[Tuss, Lones]

Hi Michael
It sound like you are using the 12 volt aux out on the radian to activate a 
separate relay.
If so disconnect the relay then check and see if the 12 aux attempts to go high 
(12v dc).
If it does it may be a relay issue.
The Radian does have an on board relay you could use that instead of a discrete 
relay.
In AGS on the Mate3(s) just select Relay.
I hope this helps sir.
Take Care



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Michael Morningstar
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Wrenches,

I’ve got a Radian 8048/Mate 3S that no longer is activating the relay 
responsible for generator starting. I’ve power cycled everything and updated 
firmware. When I attempt to start the generator via the Mate 3S, the relay does 
not close.

Any suggestions before I look into replacing the relay/board?

Which board do I order and what is the best source?

Many thanks,
Michael




Michael Morningstar


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Re: [RE-wrenches] Radian Generator Relay

[Michael Morningstar]

I did not check whether or not the 12v relay was functional.
I think I see where you are going. If the 12V relay isn’t working also, then 
the issue is elsewhere? Is that correct?
 
I did look into using the FNDC relay, however it appears that it’s control is 
through the FNDC menu. Things are so simple when all my client has to do to 
control the generator is push the GEN button and choose a mode. Searching for 
the FNDC menu adds a layer of complexity.
However,
What I’m seeing is that the board that the relay is on is part of a stack 
boards that costs 2K. So, it sounds like my options are to check to see if the 
12v relay functions and then use that to drive a relay, or use the FNDC relay, 
or spend 2k for the board stack.

Michael

> On Sep 14, 2021, at 11:10 AM, Jay  wrote:
> 
> There are two relays on that board, one dry one 12v. 
> 
> Aux output
> And
> Aux relay
> 
> Do both not work?
> 
> Jay
> 
>> On Sep 14, 2021, at 11:55 AM, Michael Morningstar  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Wrenches,
>> 
>> I’ve got a Radian 8048/Mate 3S that no longer is activating the relay 
>> responsible for generator starting. I’ve power cycled everything and updated 
>> firmware. When I attempt to start the generator via the Mate 3S, the relay 
>> does not close.
>> 
>> Any suggestions before I look into replacing the relay/board?
>> 
>> Which board do I order and what is the best source?
>> 
>> Many thanks,
>> Michael
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>  Michael Morningstar
>> 
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Re: [RE-wrenches] Radian Generator Relay

[Jay]

There are two relays on that board, one dry one 12v. 

Aux output
And
Aux relay

Do both not work?

Jay

> On Sep 14, 2021, at 11:55 AM, Michael Morningstar  
> wrote:
> 
> Wrenches,
> 
> I’ve got a Radian 8048/Mate 3S that no longer is activating the relay 
> responsible for generator starting. I’ve power cycled everything and updated 
> firmware. When I attempt to start the generator via the Mate 3S, the relay 
> does not close.
> 
> Any suggestions before I look into replacing the relay/board?
> 
> Which board do I order and what is the best source?
> 
> Many thanks,
> Michael
> 
> 
> 
> 
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[RE-wrenches] Larger battery inverters

[Jay]

I had someone contact me and they need a 125-150 kw single phase 60hz UL listed 
battery inverter that can also sell to the grid. 

With preferably a high voltage battery input. 

Does anyone have any suggestions?

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[RE-wrenches] Blue Ion and closed loop charging

[Dave Angelini Offgrid Solar]

This question is for installers of Blue Ion. Have any of you used
Schneider to close loop charge? I have a client who really wants to do
this. I am really happy with Discover AES but might need to do this.
Schneider says they support it but I want to know if this gets Soc and
battery data out to the Web portal Insight Cloud. See pix Thx!  

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Re: [RE-wrenches] Radian Generator Relay

[Michael Morningstar]

Thank You Both. I appreciate it.


> On Sep 14, 2021, at 11:38 AM, Tuss, Lones  wrote:
> 
> Hi Michael
> Nicks suggestion on the FNDC is smart.
> For parts on a 8048 try Zonna Energy.
> https://www.zonnaenergy.com/ 
>  
>  
>  
> From: RE-wrenches  > On Behalf Of Michael 
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> I’ve got a Radian 8048/Mate 3S that no longer is activating the relay 
> responsible for generator starting. I’ve power cycled everything and updated 
> firmware. When I attempt to start the generator via the Mate 3S, the relay 
> does not close.
>  
> Any suggestions before I look into replacing the relay/board?
>  
> Which board do I order and what is the best source?
>  
> Many thanks,
> Michael
>  
>  
>  
> 
>  
> Michael Morningstar
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Re: [RE-wrenches] Radian Generator Relay

[Michael Morningstar]

Actually I’m using the 12V relay to activate a battery vent fan. For generator 
starting, I’m using the dry contact relay for two-wire start. I have the 
circuit protected by a 2amp fast acting fuse. Fuse is good.


> On Sep 14, 2021, at 11:10 AM, Tuss, Lones  wrote:
> 
> Hi Michael
> It sound like you are using the 12 volt aux out on the radian to activate a 
> separate relay.
> If so disconnect the relay then check and see if the 12 aux attempts to go 
> high (12v dc).
> If it does it may be a relay issue.
> The Radian does have an on board relay you could use that instead of a 
> discrete relay.
> In AGS on the Mate3(s) just select Relay.
> I hope this helps sir.
> Take Care
>  
>  
>  
> From: RE-wrenches  > On Behalf Of Michael 
> Morningstar
> Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2021 10:55 AM
> To: RE-wrenches  >
> Subject: [RE-wrenches] Radian Generator Relay
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> Wrenches, 
>  
> I’ve got a Radian 8048/Mate 3S that no longer is activating the relay 
> responsible for generator starting. I’ve power cycled everything and updated 
> firmware. When I attempt to start the generator via the Mate 3S, the relay 
> does not close.
>  
> Any suggestions before I look into replacing the relay/board?
>  
> Which board do I order and what is the best source?
>  
> Many thanks,
> Michael
>  
>  
>  
> 
>  
> Michael Morningstar
>  
>  
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[RE-wrenches] Radian Generator Relay

[Michael Morningstar]

Wrenches,

I’ve got a Radian 8048/Mate 3S that no longer is activating the relay 
responsible for generator starting. I’ve power cycled everything and updated 
firmware. When I attempt to start the generator via the Mate 3S, the relay does 
not close.

Any suggestions before I look into replacing the relay/board?

Which board do I order and what is the best source?

Many thanks,
Michael





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Morningstar Electric
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530-921-0560
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