[RE-wrenches] Cummins 13-kW to Schneider AGS

[Matthew Sherald via RE-wrenches]

Hello Friends,

I’m stuck trying to wire a 13-kW Cummins LP gen to a Schneider AGS. If someone 
has a quick explanation or diagram that they would be willing to share I would 
be most grateful.  

Many Thanks!

-Matt Sherald

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Re: [RE-wrenches] LG chem RESU battery replacements

[Matthew Sherald via RE-wrenches]

I have a customer who was told by LG that a replacement is available for her, 
but the return shipping box for the defective unit is not.  LG said they’d ship 
the new unit if the installer (me) agreed to store the defective unit in the 
intervening weeks until the return boxes were ready. LGs estimate on box 
availability was five weeks at earliest - that was about four weeks ago.  

-Matt

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> On Jun 21, 2022, at 3:49 PM, Scot Arey via RE-wrenches 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> I have gotten some RMA replacement support for LG Resu10 primary units. As 
> many might know, the use of a second battery requires a LG with “secondary” 
> classification (firmware, I assume) and the two are not interchangeable. The 
> secondary units won’t be available until September. Crazy, I know. My own 
> personal secondary unit is bogged down in this.
>  
>  
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>  
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> From: RE-wrenches  On Behalf Of 
> Kirk Herander via RE-wrenches
> Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2022 1:38 PM
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> Subject: [RE-wrenches] LG chem RESU battery replacements
>  
> Has anyone heard of if these defective RESU units might ever be replaced by 
> LG? They don't reply to me anymore. I have -3- RMAs and have been waiting 
> months, as I know others have.
> And what might Solaredge's strategy be for an LG substitute with the Storedge 
> 7600 inverter? I know they are replacing Storedge with the Energyhub model.
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Re: [RE-wrenches] 3000 watt quiet inverter

[Matthew Sherald]

Jay,

VFXR might be too loud. I have customers who object to the noise that theirs 
makes even though it is mounted to a basement wall and well removed from their 
living area.  The fans do seem to run frequently. 
I’ve installed the Victron model in vans and have not had a complaint.

Good luck!

-Matt





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> On Mar 5, 2022, at 10:46 AM, Jay  wrote:
> 
> Hi all
> 
> I’ve got a client that wants a replacement inverter as her magnum is way to 
> loud. Yep, shouldn’t be inside, and not by her bedroom but it is and can’t be 
> moved, either one. 
> 
> So looking for feedback as to the most quiet 3000ish watt 120vac 12vdc  
> inverter/charger. 
> Rarely will need to charge, so options of external chargers are ok too. 
> Needs to run some power tools, blenders etc. 
> 
> The victron multiplus II might fit the bill. 
> Magnum is out because she hates this one. 
> OB vfxr, maybe?  
> 
> Thanks
> 
> Jay
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Re: [RE-wrenches] 24-12v converter

[Matthew Sherald]

Samlex has worked well for me. 
I also have a 48-24V Meanwell that has held up well in an exterior cabinet. 

-Matt

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> On Nov 24, 2020, at 1:10 PM, jay  wrote:
> 
> Hi All,
> 
> Any recommendations for a small 5 amp or less at 12v  
> 
> 24v to 12v dc to dc converter? 
> 
> There are many  inexpensive ones out there but just checking to see if anyone 
> has info on better ones:  high efficiency and reliability 
> 
> thanks
> 
> jay
> 
> peltz power
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Re: [RE-wrenches] Enphase sizing

[Matthew Sherald]

Jay,

I was grappling with this same question just yesterday.  

My inclination is to avoid overpowering the inverter so as to reduce heat and 
hopefully prolong the operating life of the electronics.  
That said, I was hedging toward using the IQ7A for some 335W LGs when I double 
checked the input specs and realized that the vmp on the LG module falls below 
the input voltage range.  So, for my application I need the IQ7PLUS since it 
accommodates the module’s vmp.  


-Matt



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> On Oct 3, 2020, at 7:59 PM, Jay  wrote:
> 
> Hi all
> 
> For those working with Enphase. 
> How hard are people recommending pushing the DC/AC ratio?
> 
> Enphase has some pretty convincing data that even a 400 watt module on a 
> 240watt inverter has very small clipping vs annual production  
> 
> Given that why would i recommend to a customer the IQ7A at 360va and quite a 
> bit more expensive vs the 240va IQ7?  
> Location would have something to do of course, tilt, yes. 
> But it seems that unless you’re installing a really large module or their 
> data is wrong, I’m not sure I see the advantage of the larger inverter?
> 
> I’m hoping there will be some counter views. 
> 
> Thanks
> Jay
> Peltz power. 
> 
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Re: [RE-wrenches] Offgrid Generators?

[Matthew Sherald]

I’ve enjoyed following this thread. Just today a customer with a Generac wrote 
to update me on a long anticipated control board replacement that ended with 
the discovery of a shot bearing and the need for more work/downtime. 

I have another customer (whom I inherited) who has had a stationary Winco brand 
generator for ten years or more.  His experience with the Winco has been a good 
one and I see that the company has some 8 and 12k units offered for prime 
power.  
I’d welcome any opinions on the reliability/suitability of the Winco brand for 
off-grid homeowners. My initial impression has been positive, but my experience 
with them is limited. 

-Matt

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> On Mar 3, 2020, at 4:21 PM, Chris Mason  wrote:
> 
> Ray,
> Let me try to address some of those issues for you.
> 1) You can get the activation code before you take it to site, you just need 
> the serial number. Generac has a good warranty policy but they need to know 
> where the generator is and when it is installed to be able to provide that.
> 2) An electrician can connect the wires but you would not believe the 
> installations we have seen, done by licensed electricians. We have a dealer 
> forum where installers post pictures of installations they find, and the 
> mistakes are criminal and dangerous. I once found a propane 20KW generator 
> running side a shipping container, doors closed.
> 3) Generac does not do direct support for generators, they require customers 
> call a dealer. The dealer can then call Generac, and often does. I can't even 
> call them if my certification expires.
> 4) If the generator is under warranty, you may not pay anything, depending on 
> the coverage. Generac is offering up to ten year warranties. But once it is 
> out of warranty, you will have to pay. Dealers don't work for free. The 
> average electrician won't be able to diagnose problems reliably on these 
> generators.
> The residential air cooled generators are very reliable and rarely have 
> problems if well maintained. Techs should be traveling with common parts, I 
> bring a controller and a few other parts so I can solve the problem in one go.
> Blown engines are rare, but they do happen. Generally in the first few hours, 
> so under full warranty and replacement is generally done at Generac's expense.
> If you do have issues, contact me and I will try to help you.
> 
> 
> 
>  
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On Fri, Feb 28, 2020 at 4:41 PM Ray  wrote:
>> Some of the issues have been Generac not providing a simple wiring 
>> schematic, nor simply labeling the 2 start wires.  2nd is requiring either 
>> internet connection or a call in to get the start code.  Both have been very 
>> problematic in remote locations with no phone service.  Totally unnecessary. 
>>  We don't need a Generac tech just to connect wires, I'm the licensed 
>> electrician.  Last time I called Generac, (control error not listed in the 
>> manual) they insisted I needed to call in a service tech, and offered zero 
>> trouble shooting.  I fixed the problem by pulling the fuse and resetting the 
>> controller.  3rd, service requires a long expensive trip by the service 
>> tech, who then diagnoses the problem, has to order the parts and return 
>> weeks later. This means every issue takes 2 round trips to resolve.  If its 
>> a bigger issue, it requires a truck lift to haul the 500 lb unit in to the 
>> shop.  We're hearing $500 just to get the generator to the shop, then 
>> another $500 to reinstall it after.  
>> 
>> Failures have included several catastrophic engine failures, blowing oil 
>> every where, some of these have been in the first few hundred hours. Lots of 
>> control issues, one recently had voltage that varied from 90 to 130, 45 to 
>> 70 Hz, and the inverter wouldn't even connect to it.
>> 
>> I quit selling generators a long time ago, because I didn't want the service 
>> liability.  I'm not a mechanic, and I don't want to be.  I do however, need 
>> a generator I can recommend in good faith.  The Ecogen has made us look 
>> pretty bad.  Glad I didn't sell them, but then I've seen some large water 
>> cooled unit that worked well.   
>> 
>> Ray Walters
>> Remote Solar
>> 303 505-8760
>>> On 2/28/20 5:14 AM, Chris Mason wrote:
>>> Ray,
>>> I'm a Generac dealer. Why are you having support problems? Generac has a 
>>> large dealer network, if the unit is under warranty you should have no 
>>> problem getting it fixed. Did you buy through a dealer and have them 
>>> install it? Why are the services expensive?
>>> 
>>> What failures are you seeing?
>>> 
>>> There is a hole in the market for products in this application. Virtually 
>>> no-one makes an affordable ~10KW diesel enclosed 2 wire start 1,800 rpm 
>>> reliable diesel generator. I once ordered, on spec, a 9KW Perkins engine 
>>> liquid cooled enclosed diesel from a factory in China I deal with. I sold 
>>> it to a customer that ran it 18 hours a day on 100% load, to power his 
>>> restaurant 

Re: [RE-wrenches] Schneider Phone Support

[Matthew Sherald]

Wrenches,

I also had need of tech support from Schneider and was nonplussed when my 
trusty phone number failed to connect to their service desk. I filled out their 
installer form and received a reply email with a number and an un-advertised 
extension. The number gets you the same dead end menu choices but if you dial 
the secret extension you may be placed in contact with a real live tech person. 
Anyway, I also posted my issue via the web form and got a delayed response. 
Good tech support makes a difference when I decide between brands. Schneider 
used to have very good support. I hope they don’t downsize or otherwise 
diminish its effectiveness. The new phone/email routine sure left me a bit 
vexed. 

-Matt

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> On Jan 9, 2019, at 1:21 PM, Ray  wrote:
> 
> Can't help you with the phone support, but the fan running is probably a bad 
> temp sensor on the transformer.  Talk about runaround, you'll probably have 
> to call Schneider support to get the replacement sensor.
> 
> Ray Walters
> Remote Solar
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>> On 1/9/19 8:34 AM, Amanda Potter wrote:
>> Hello Wrenches,
>> I am having the same issue.
>> I have Comboxs out there that have the latest firmware, but they haven’t 
>> worked for quite a while and my customers are not happy...
>> And, a SW 4024, three years old with the fans running non stop, no matter 
>> what the temperatures are and they will not warranty.
>> That is what the last email said from Tech Support.
>> 
>> Thoughts?
>> 
>> Thanks ahead of time.
>> 
>> Amanda Potter
>> NABCEP 
>> PV Installation Professional
>> NYSERDA Eligible PV Installer
>> Adirondack Battery & Solar, LLC
>> Potsdam, NY
>> (315) 212-2114
>> 
>> On Jan 9, 2019, at 9:56 AM, drake.chamber...@redwoodalliance.org wrote:
>> 
>>> Hello Wrenches,
>>> 
>>> Does Schneider phone support still exist? I filled out an on line form, as 
>>> a professional, to be able to get phone support. Schneider sent me an email 
>>> with two numbers to call, and neither of them worked. One did not connect 
>>> to anything and the other gave me the original message saying to fill out 
>>> the form for tech support.
>>> 
>>> Using their on-line support has been limited in its usefulness, with a lot 
>>> of runaround. No one there will answer any questions about phone support 
>>> availability.
>>> 
>>> The timing of this is interesting, as I was on the verge of using Schneider 
>>> as my go-to brand for battery based equipment. . One Wrench posting from a 
>>> while back that stuck in my head was, "before buying equipment, call their 
>>> tech support to see how good it is." 
>>> 
>>> Does anyone know if phone support still exists?
>>> 
>>> Thank you,
>>> 
>>> Drake 
>>> 
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Re: [RE-wrenches] Splices in service panel

[Matthew Sherald]

I got zapped on a neutral in a generac transfer switch that I thought was
de-energized.  Someone prior had moved hots from the transfer switch to the
main panel, but not the neutrals.  I was disassembling connections in the
transfer switch as part of a move to a battery-backup system and I could
not believe it when I got popped.  The experience drove home the importance
of terminating the phase and neutral in the same enclosure.

On Thu, Sep 8, 2016 at 8:22 PM, Chris Mason 
wrote:

> You have to splice the load cabling in the main panel, otherwise you would
> need to run new conduits and cables. There's nothing that I know of that
> prevents you splicing wires.
> I disagree with the response that you do not need to move the neutrals.
> You should never have the load's phase wiring in one panel and the neutral
> in another.
>
> On Thu, Sep 8, 2016 at 8:00 PM, Mac Lewis  wrote:
>
>> Hello wrenches,
>>
>> We run into many scenarios where we are locating a critical load panel
>> adjacent to an existing service to make it easy to move the loads.  I've
>> always taken it for granted (as have the electricians that we use) that we
>> can't do a splice in the main panel and extend the load wiring to the
>> critical load panel.  Is there code violation for doing a splice in the
>> main panel and extending the leads to the critical panel?  You would be
>> treating the service panel as a pass-trough/splice box for those critical
>> loads.
>>
>> It makes me wonder because of all of the prewired transfer switch
>> packages with wire whips already attached that seem to be designed to do
>> just that.
>>
>> Code references would be appreciated.
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> --
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>>
>>
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>>
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Re: [RE-wrenches] Back-up generator/inverter shut-down relay

[Matthew Sherald]

Generac offers a Smart Management Module.

http://gens.lccdn.com/GeneracCorporate/media/Library/content/all-products/transfer-switches/residential-transfer-switches/0L1500-B-SMM-Module.pdf

I used one of these at a grid-tie job where the customer was simultaneously
having a Generac unit installed.  The Generac installer turned me on to the
device and it seemed to do the trick.  It was a similar situation where the
PV and GT inverter were at an outbuilding far removed from the main panel
at the house.


On Thu, Sep 8, 2016 at 1:00 PM, Benn Kilburn  wrote:

> Wrenches,
> We are installing 2 SolarEdge SE7600A-US inverters in a grid-tied system
> that has a 15kw back-up generator on an auto transfer switch.
>
> The generator is located in a shed about 300' or more away and the feeders
> to the house are underground.
> Inverters are located in the house basement mechanial room along with the
> house electrical panelboard.
>
> We are looking for relay options to shut down the inverters when there is
> a power interruption, before the generator kicks in.  This could be a
> manual reset.
>
> What are some options you have seen/used for something like this?
>
> Thanks,
>
> *Benn Kilburn *
> CSA Certified Solar Photovoltaic Systems Electrician, SkyFire Energy Inc
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