Re: [RE-wrenches] Sol-Ark 15k Conduit Entries

[Max Balchowsky via RE-wrenches]

i like using gutters, it keeps it clean
you can just as easily put the gutter vertical on the side and use close
nipples…..

Max Balchowsky
SEE Systems

On Wed, Aug 2, 2023 at 8:04 AM Jason Szumlanski via RE-wrenches <
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> I see a lot of pictures with conduit nipples coming out of a gutter that
> are fairly long. I have a height limit issue and I'm wondering if there are
> any negative implications of using very short nipples between a wireway
> below and the inverter. I'm thinking about using close nipples or perhaps
> 2-in nipples if I have enough room.
>
> If there are any practical reasons that this will not work well, please
> let me know.
>
> Jason Szumlanski
> Florida Solar Design Group
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Re: [RE-wrenches] Sol-Ark 15k Conduit Entries

[Michael Morningstar via RE-wrenches]

I just checked out the Homegrid batteries. Just throwing this out there. If
there is enough ceiling height you could hang them. That's typically how we
deal with transformers in commercial and industrial settings. We usually
build a permanent gantry out of square tubing, 1/2" rod and strut. Then
ratchet strap or chain hoist them up. Just an idea.

Yes Dave, that's the one.

On Fri, Aug 4, 2023 at 9:48 AM Dave Angelini Offgrid Solar via RE-wrenches <
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> Very nice Install Michael!  Was that the project on the xxCloud River we
> talked about?
>
> It looks like you have kept the gutter heat gain down to protect
> electronics.  “the rule of thumb is that every 10°C increase in
> temperature reduces component life by half”
>
> https://www.electronics-cooling.com/2017/08/10c-increase-temperature-really-reduce-life-electronics-half/
>
>
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> On 2023-08-03 10:08 am, Michael Morningstar via RE-wrenches wrote:
>
> Hi Drake,
> Those are single phase combiner panels. I would have loved to set this up
> as a three phase system, but there was already a mile of underground single
> phase run throughout the property. We ended up running a half mile 15KV
> line from the power site to the estate. This is an aside, it's kind of hard
> to see, but for seperation, we attached  the pv circuits to the back of the
> gutter using through bolted adhesive backed cable tie holders. Often we use
> gutter dividers. They originate in the tall cabinet at the end which houses
> controls, secondary PV disconnects, AC and DC egauges, Tigo hub, Battery
> hub and (Lynk II). On the opposite end is a similar cabinet for the
> collection and distribution of AC circuits. Also, above and below the
> batteries are small gutters for communications and CT wires that run from
> the transfer switches to eguage. One transfer switch to alternate usage
> (alternating relay) or bypass between Gen 1 and Gen 2, and the other switch
> to select inverter or generator power, locally or remotely. In the AC
> cabinet there is a 400a contactor and time delay relay to achieve a
> generator cooldown as the janky Sol-Arks don't do that and it's hell on new
> diesels not to have that function.
>
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Re: [RE-wrenches] Sol-Ark 15k Conduit Entries

[Dave Angelini Offgrid Solar via RE-wrenches]

Very nice Install Michael!  Was that the project on the xxCloud River we 
talked about?


It looks like you have kept the gutter heat gain down to protect 
electronics.  "the rule of thumb is that every 10°C increase in 
temperature reduces component life by half"

https://www.electronics-cooling.com/2017/08/10c-increase-temperature-really-reduce-life-electronics-half/

Dave Angelini Offgrid Solar
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text 209 813 0060

On 2023-08-03 10:08 am, Michael Morningstar via RE-wrenches wrote:


Hi Drake,
Those are single phase combiner panels. I would have loved to set this 
up as a three phase system, but there was already a mile of underground 
single phase run throughout the property. We ended up running a half 
mile 15KV line from the power site to the estate. This is an aside, 
it's kind of hard to see, but for seperation, we attached  the pv 
circuits to the back of the gutter using through bolted adhesive backed 
cable tie holders. Often we use gutter dividers. They originate in the 
tall cabinet at the end which houses controls, secondary PV 
disconnects, AC and DC egauges, Tigo hub, Battery hub and (Lynk II). On 
the opposite end is a similar cabinet for the collection and 
distribution of AC circuits. Also, above and below the batteries are 
small gutters for communications and CT wires that run from the 
transfer switches to eguage. One transfer switch to alternate usage 
(alternating relay) or bypass between Gen 1 and Gen 2, and the other 
switch to select inverter or generator power, locally or remotely. In 
the AC cabinet there is a 400a contactor and time delay relay to 
achieve a generator cooldown as the janky Sol-Arks don't do that and 
it's hell on new diesels not to have that function.


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Re: [RE-wrenches] Sol-Ark 15k Conduit Entries

[Jason Szumlanski via RE-wrenches]

Michael,

I think your work looks stellar, and I seriously doubt there would be any
airflow issues.

I plan to use strut to put the inverters out from the wall to deal with the
working depth issue, which should also help with airflow. That was part of
my thought process - even if the inverters don't have much bottom
clearance, there will be a gap off the wall. My issue is that the HomeGrid
batteries are pretty deep, much like the transformer problem that you are
suggesting. I have to get the inverters off the wall to meet the depth
requirements if I want the batteries directly below.

If I have to give them 6" to the gutter I will have to go back to the
drawing board.

Jason Szumlanski
Principal Solar Designer | Florida Solar Design Group
NABCEP Certified Solar Professional (PVIP)
Florida State Certified Solar Contractor CVC56956


On Fri, Aug 4, 2023 at 10:59 AM Michael Morningstar via RE-wrenches <
re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org> wrote:

> We handle the 15Ks much like most vfds since both have cooling vents in
> the rear and knockouts or wiring compartments in the rear. What we do is
> set the units back so that the rear portion is hanging off of the rear of
> the gutter. The gutter in this case is held off of the wall for air flow.
> It does take some 3D strut work to accomplish. I'm putting a bank of VFDs
> in my woodshop today and will photograph this. Yes, it does place things  a
> few inches out of the frontal plane, but the intent of the code is really
> to prevent things like putting a transformer in front of a panelboard or
> some similar situation.
>
> On Fri, Aug 4, 2023 at 6:52 AM Jason Szumlanski via RE-wrenches <
> re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org> wrote:
>
>> Thanks, Lou. I missed that 6" bottom spacing requirement in the manual.
>> That could explain a lot of the installation pictures I have seen.
>>
>> On the flip side, we have seen some examples of installations in this
>> thread without this 6-inch spacing, presumably without any adverse effects.
>> Obviously, NEC requires that we follow the manufacturer's instructions, but
>> for practical purposes or non-NEC installations, I wonder if this bottom
>> spacing is necessary. Perhaps the manufacturer could provide a letter of
>> exception. I might have to reach out to them. The manual seems to indicate
>> the heat dissipation is "from bottom to top," so I'm not sure how critical
>> the intake air spacing really is. I wouldn't want to put anything less than
>> 6 inches above, but perhaps below isn't as critical.
>>
>> My situation is that I want to put a 12x12 gutter above some HomeGrid
>> stacks and the inverters over the gutter. Based on my calculations, if I
>> use more than 2 inches of space between the gutter and inverter, I will
>> exceed the working height limit for the breakers in the inverters.
>>
>> Yes, I am aware of the depth difference between equipment and that will
>> be addressed to meet working space requirements. My technical problem is
>> only the NEC 240.24(A) height limit.
>>
>> Jason Szumlanski
>> Principal Solar Designer | Florida Solar Design Group
>> NABCEP Certified Solar Professional (PVIP)
>> Florida State Certified Solar Contractor CVC56956
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Aug 3, 2023 at 6:41 PM Lou Russo via RE-wrenches <
>> re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org> wrote:
>>
>>> Hello All,
>>>
>>> Super impressive install, Michael. Almost worth a flight, and a site
>>> visit! Back to Jason's initial question
>>>
>>> If you are using the 15kW Outdoor Sol-Ark they vent from the top and
>>> bottom with a required 6" minimum spacing on both the top and bottom.
>>>
>>> A 12kW Outdoor with 8x8 gutter and 1" offset nipples have worked great
>>> for us.
>>>
>>> Aloha,
>>>
>>> Lou Russo
>>> (808) 345 6762
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Aug 3, 2023 at 7:09 AM Michael Morningstar via RE-wrenches <
>>> re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org> wrote:
>>>
 Hi Drake,
 Those are single phase combiner panels. I would have loved to set this
 up as a three phase system, but there was already a mile of underground
 single phase run throughout the property. We ended up running a half mile
 15KV line from the power site to the estate. This is an aside, it's kind of
 hard to see, but for seperation, we attached  the pv circuits to the back
 of the gutter using through bolted adhesive backed cable tie holders. Often
 we use gutter dividers. They originate in the tall cabinet at the end which
 houses controls, secondary PV disconnects, AC and DC egauges, Tigo hub,
 Battery hub and (Lynk II). On the opposite end is a similar cabinet for the
 collection and distribution of AC circuits. Also, above and below the
 batteries are small gutters for communications and CT wires that run from
 the transfer switches to eguage. One transfer switch to alternate usage
 (alternating relay) or bypass between Gen 1 and Gen 2, and the other switch
 to select inverter or generator power, locally or remotely. In the AC

Re: [RE-wrenches] Sol-Ark 15k Conduit Entries

[Michael Morningstar via RE-wrenches]

We handle the 15Ks much like most vfds since both have cooling vents in the
rear and knockouts or wiring compartments in the rear. What we do is set
the units back so that the rear portion is hanging off of the rear of the
gutter. The gutter in this case is held off of the wall for air flow. It
does take some 3D strut work to accomplish. I'm putting a bank of VFDs in
my woodshop today and will photograph this. Yes, it does place things  a
few inches out of the frontal plane, but the intent of the code is really
to prevent things like putting a transformer in front of a panelboard or
some similar situation.

On Fri, Aug 4, 2023 at 6:52 AM Jason Szumlanski via RE-wrenches <
re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org> wrote:

> Thanks, Lou. I missed that 6" bottom spacing requirement in the manual.
> That could explain a lot of the installation pictures I have seen.
>
> On the flip side, we have seen some examples of installations in this
> thread without this 6-inch spacing, presumably without any adverse effects.
> Obviously, NEC requires that we follow the manufacturer's instructions, but
> for practical purposes or non-NEC installations, I wonder if this bottom
> spacing is necessary. Perhaps the manufacturer could provide a letter of
> exception. I might have to reach out to them. The manual seems to indicate
> the heat dissipation is "from bottom to top," so I'm not sure how critical
> the intake air spacing really is. I wouldn't want to put anything less than
> 6 inches above, but perhaps below isn't as critical.
>
> My situation is that I want to put a 12x12 gutter above some HomeGrid
> stacks and the inverters over the gutter. Based on my calculations, if I
> use more than 2 inches of space between the gutter and inverter, I will
> exceed the working height limit for the breakers in the inverters.
>
> Yes, I am aware of the depth difference between equipment and that will be
> addressed to meet working space requirements. My technical problem is only
> the NEC 240.24(A) height limit.
>
> Jason Szumlanski
> Principal Solar Designer | Florida Solar Design Group
> NABCEP Certified Solar Professional (PVIP)
> Florida State Certified Solar Contractor CVC56956
>
>
> On Thu, Aug 3, 2023 at 6:41 PM Lou Russo via RE-wrenches <
> re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org> wrote:
>
>> Hello All,
>>
>> Super impressive install, Michael. Almost worth a flight, and a site
>> visit! Back to Jason's initial question
>>
>> If you are using the 15kW Outdoor Sol-Ark they vent from the top and
>> bottom with a required 6" minimum spacing on both the top and bottom.
>>
>> A 12kW Outdoor with 8x8 gutter and 1" offset nipples have worked great
>> for us.
>>
>> Aloha,
>>
>> Lou Russo
>> (808) 345 6762
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Aug 3, 2023 at 7:09 AM Michael Morningstar via RE-wrenches <
>> re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Drake,
>>> Those are single phase combiner panels. I would have loved to set this
>>> up as a three phase system, but there was already a mile of underground
>>> single phase run throughout the property. We ended up running a half mile
>>> 15KV line from the power site to the estate. This is an aside, it's kind of
>>> hard to see, but for seperation, we attached  the pv circuits to the back
>>> of the gutter using through bolted adhesive backed cable tie holders. Often
>>> we use gutter dividers. They originate in the tall cabinet at the end which
>>> houses controls, secondary PV disconnects, AC and DC egauges, Tigo hub,
>>> Battery hub and (Lynk II). On the opposite end is a similar cabinet for the
>>> collection and distribution of AC circuits. Also, above and below the
>>> batteries are small gutters for communications and CT wires that run from
>>> the transfer switches to eguage. One transfer switch to alternate usage
>>> (alternating relay) or bypass between Gen 1 and Gen 2, and the other switch
>>> to select inverter or generator power, locally or remotely. In the AC
>>> cabinet there is a 400a contactor and time delay relay to achieve a
>>> generator cooldown as the janky Sol-Arks don't do that and it's hell on new
>>> diesels not to have that function.
>>>
>>> On Thu, Aug 3, 2023 at 7:50 AM Drake Chamberlin via RE-wrenches <
>>> re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org> wrote:
>>>
 That looks really nice. How were you able to put 8 Sol Arc inverters on
 a 3 phase panel? Tech support told me that inverters had to be connected in
 groups of 3.

 Thank you,

 Drake


 *Drake Chamberlin*

 *Athens Electric LLC*

 *Ohio Electrical Contractor’s License 44810*

 *CO Master Electrician’s License 4526*

 *NABCEP Certified PV Installation Professional*
 ---



 On 2023-08-02 14:19, Michael Morningstar via RE-wrenches wrote:

 10x10 gutter. Notice within, a 2.5x2.5 gutter for comms. 1 x 2.5"
 nipples work well. Chase nipples wont due to door clearance. I've also cut
 the bottoms out of the Sol-Arks and a 

Re: [RE-wrenches] Sol-Ark 15k Conduit Entries

[Jason Szumlanski via RE-wrenches]

Thanks, Lou. I missed that 6" bottom spacing requirement in the manual.
That could explain a lot of the installation pictures I have seen.

On the flip side, we have seen some examples of installations in this
thread without this 6-inch spacing, presumably without any adverse effects.
Obviously, NEC requires that we follow the manufacturer's instructions, but
for practical purposes or non-NEC installations, I wonder if this bottom
spacing is necessary. Perhaps the manufacturer could provide a letter of
exception. I might have to reach out to them. The manual seems to indicate
the heat dissipation is "from bottom to top," so I'm not sure how critical
the intake air spacing really is. I wouldn't want to put anything less than
6 inches above, but perhaps below isn't as critical.

My situation is that I want to put a 12x12 gutter above some HomeGrid
stacks and the inverters over the gutter. Based on my calculations, if I
use more than 2 inches of space between the gutter and inverter, I will
exceed the working height limit for the breakers in the inverters.

Yes, I am aware of the depth difference between equipment and that will be
addressed to meet working space requirements. My technical problem is only
the NEC 240.24(A) height limit.

Jason Szumlanski
Principal Solar Designer | Florida Solar Design Group
NABCEP Certified Solar Professional (PVIP)
Florida State Certified Solar Contractor CVC56956


On Thu, Aug 3, 2023 at 6:41 PM Lou Russo via RE-wrenches <
re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org> wrote:

> Hello All,
>
> Super impressive install, Michael. Almost worth a flight, and a site
> visit! Back to Jason's initial question
>
> If you are using the 15kW Outdoor Sol-Ark they vent from the top and
> bottom with a required 6" minimum spacing on both the top and bottom.
>
> A 12kW Outdoor with 8x8 gutter and 1" offset nipples have worked great for
> us.
>
> Aloha,
>
> Lou Russo
> (808) 345 6762
>
>
>
> On Thu, Aug 3, 2023 at 7:09 AM Michael Morningstar via RE-wrenches <
> re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org> wrote:
>
>> Hi Drake,
>> Those are single phase combiner panels. I would have loved to set this up
>> as a three phase system, but there was already a mile of underground single
>> phase run throughout the property. We ended up running a half mile 15KV
>> line from the power site to the estate. This is an aside, it's kind of hard
>> to see, but for seperation, we attached  the pv circuits to the back of the
>> gutter using through bolted adhesive backed cable tie holders. Often we use
>> gutter dividers. They originate in the tall cabinet at the end which houses
>> controls, secondary PV disconnects, AC and DC egauges, Tigo hub, Battery
>> hub and (Lynk II). On the opposite end is a similar cabinet for the
>> collection and distribution of AC circuits. Also, above and below the
>> batteries are small gutters for communications and CT wires that run from
>> the transfer switches to eguage. One transfer switch to alternate usage
>> (alternating relay) or bypass between Gen 1 and Gen 2, and the other switch
>> to select inverter or generator power, locally or remotely. In the AC
>> cabinet there is a 400a contactor and time delay relay to achieve a
>> generator cooldown as the janky Sol-Arks don't do that and it's hell on new
>> diesels not to have that function.
>>
>> On Thu, Aug 3, 2023 at 7:50 AM Drake Chamberlin via RE-wrenches <
>> re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org> wrote:
>>
>>> That looks really nice. How were you able to put 8 Sol Arc inverters on
>>> a 3 phase panel? Tech support told me that inverters had to be connected in
>>> groups of 3.
>>>
>>> Thank you,
>>>
>>> Drake
>>>
>>>
>>> *Drake Chamberlin*
>>>
>>> *Athens Electric LLC*
>>>
>>> *Ohio Electrical Contractor’s License 44810*
>>>
>>> *CO Master Electrician’s License 4526*
>>>
>>> *NABCEP Certified PV Installation Professional*
>>> ---
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 2023-08-02 14:19, Michael Morningstar via RE-wrenches wrote:
>>>
>>> 10x10 gutter. Notice within, a 2.5x2.5 gutter for comms. 1 x 2.5"
>>> nipples work well. Chase nipples wont due to door clearance. I've also cut
>>> the bottoms out of the Sol-Arks and a corresponding square window in the
>>> gutter,  placed a 1/4" rubber gasket between the two. We do that when we
>>> have many VFD's over a gutter. Someone a while ago asked for a picture
>>> showing how we make long bussbars. This one is 24' long.
>>>
>>> On Wed, Aug 2, 2023 at 10:08 AM Jerry Shafer via RE-wrenches <
>>> re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org> wrote:
>>>
>>> Jason
>>> In plenty of applications l will use couplers with chase nipples, height
>>> is one issue but installed working height is very important. I use a 8"x8"x
>>> X gutter and sometimes even off set that from the wall, l have had AHJ not
>>> want to see mixed cables LVDC and AC in the same conduit so pass through
>>> the battery conductors right out the bottom and to the battery. I just
>>> create a template for punching into the gutter, looks clean and is safe
>>> with 

Re: [RE-wrenches] Sol-Ark 15k Conduit Entries

[Lou Russo via RE-wrenches]

Hello All,

Super impressive install, Michael. Almost worth a flight, and a site visit!
Back to Jason's initial question

If you are using the 15kW Outdoor Sol-Ark they vent from the top and bottom
with a required 6" minimum spacing on both the top and bottom.

A 12kW Outdoor with 8x8 gutter and 1" offset nipples have worked great for
us.

Aloha,

Lou Russo
(808) 345 6762



On Thu, Aug 3, 2023 at 7:09 AM Michael Morningstar via RE-wrenches <
re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org> wrote:

> Hi Drake,
> Those are single phase combiner panels. I would have loved to set this up
> as a three phase system, but there was already a mile of underground single
> phase run throughout the property. We ended up running a half mile 15KV
> line from the power site to the estate. This is an aside, it's kind of hard
> to see, but for seperation, we attached  the pv circuits to the back of the
> gutter using through bolted adhesive backed cable tie holders. Often we use
> gutter dividers. They originate in the tall cabinet at the end which houses
> controls, secondary PV disconnects, AC and DC egauges, Tigo hub, Battery
> hub and (Lynk II). On the opposite end is a similar cabinet for the
> collection and distribution of AC circuits. Also, above and below the
> batteries are small gutters for communications and CT wires that run from
> the transfer switches to eguage. One transfer switch to alternate usage
> (alternating relay) or bypass between Gen 1 and Gen 2, and the other switch
> to select inverter or generator power, locally or remotely. In the AC
> cabinet there is a 400a contactor and time delay relay to achieve a
> generator cooldown as the janky Sol-Arks don't do that and it's hell on new
> diesels not to have that function.
>
> On Thu, Aug 3, 2023 at 7:50 AM Drake Chamberlin via RE-wrenches <
> re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org> wrote:
>
>> That looks really nice. How were you able to put 8 Sol Arc inverters on a
>> 3 phase panel? Tech support told me that inverters had to be connected in
>> groups of 3.
>>
>> Thank you,
>>
>> Drake
>>
>>
>> *Drake Chamberlin*
>>
>> *Athens Electric LLC*
>>
>> *Ohio Electrical Contractor’s License 44810*
>>
>> *CO Master Electrician’s License 4526*
>>
>> *NABCEP Certified PV Installation Professional*
>> ---
>>
>>
>>
>> On 2023-08-02 14:19, Michael Morningstar via RE-wrenches wrote:
>>
>> 10x10 gutter. Notice within, a 2.5x2.5 gutter for comms. 1 x 2.5" nipples
>> work well. Chase nipples wont due to door clearance. I've also cut the
>> bottoms out of the Sol-Arks and a corresponding square window in the
>> gutter,  placed a 1/4" rubber gasket between the two. We do that when we
>> have many VFD's over a gutter. Someone a while ago asked for a picture
>> showing how we make long bussbars. This one is 24' long.
>>
>> On Wed, Aug 2, 2023 at 10:08 AM Jerry Shafer via RE-wrenches <
>> re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org> wrote:
>>
>> Jason
>> In plenty of applications l will use couplers with chase nipples, height
>> is one issue but installed working height is very important. I use a 8"x8"x
>> X gutter and sometimes even off set that from the wall, l have had AHJ not
>> want to see mixed cables LVDC and AC in the same conduit so pass through
>> the battery conductors right out the bottom and to the battery. I just
>> create a template for punching into the gutter, looks clean and is safe
>> with easy access to the display
>> Fun times
>>
>> On Wed, Aug 2, 2023, 8:04 AM Jason Szumlanski via RE-wrenches <
>> re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org> wrote:
>>
>> I see a lot of pictures with conduit nipples coming out of a gutter that
>> are fairly long. I have a height limit issue and I'm wondering if there are
>> any negative implications of using very short nipples between a wireway
>> below and the inverter. I'm thinking about using close nipples or perhaps
>> 2-in nipples if I have enough room.
>>
>> If there are any practical reasons that this will not work well, please
>> let me know.
>>
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Re: [RE-wrenches] Sol-Ark 15k Conduit Entries

[Jerry Shafer via RE-wrenches]

Jason
In plenty of applications l will use couplers with chase nipples, height is
one issue but installed working height is very important. I use a 8"x8"x X
gutter and sometimes even off set that from the wall, l have had AHJ not
want to see mixed cables LVDC and AC in the same conduit so pass through
the battery conductors right out the bottom and to the battery. I just
create a template for punching into the gutter, looks clean and is safe
with easy access to the display
Fun times

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> I see a lot of pictures with conduit nipples coming out of a gutter that
> are fairly long. I have a height limit issue and I'm wondering if there are
> any negative implications of using very short nipples between a wireway
> below and the inverter. I'm thinking about using close nipples or perhaps
> 2-in nipples if I have enough room.
>
> If there are any practical reasons that this will not work well, please
> let me know.
>
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> Florida Solar Design Group
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Re: [RE-wrenches] Sol-Ark 15k Conduit Entries

[Maverick Brown via RE-wrenches]

Jason

The old Sol-Ark had the PV disconnect and the Wi-Fi adapter connection on the 
bottom and that needed about six or 8 inches of clearance. The current Sol-Ark 
has those items on the side of the unit so you don’t need such clearance on the 
bottom. I installed several Sol-Ark and I use the relatively close arrangement 
between the gutter and the inverter of two EMT male adapters and a just enough 
EMT to make them connect. 



Thank you,

Maverick


> On Aug 2, 2023, at 10:04 AM, Jason Szumlanski via RE-wrenches 
>  wrote:
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> 
> I see a lot of pictures with conduit nipples coming out of a gutter that are 
> fairly long. I have a height limit issue and I'm wondering if there are any 
> negative implications of using very short nipples between a wireway below and 
> the inverter. I'm thinking about using close nipples or perhaps 2-in nipples 
> if I have enough room.
> 
> If there are any practical reasons that this will not work well, please let 
> me know.
> 
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> Florida Solar Design Group 
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[RE-wrenches] Sol-Ark 15k Conduit Entries

[Jason Szumlanski via RE-wrenches]

I see a lot of pictures with conduit nipples coming out of a gutter that
are fairly long. I have a height limit issue and I'm wondering if there are
any negative implications of using very short nipples between a wireway
below and the inverter. I'm thinking about using close nipples or perhaps
2-in nipples if I have enough room.

If there are any practical reasons that this will not work well, please let
me know.

Jason Szumlanski
Florida Solar Design Group
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