Re: [RE-wrenches] used panel mount questions
Don Actually Very High Bond (VHB) foam tapes are incredibly strong and if formulated for glass, will work quite well. They have been using it for decades to mount heavy glass and aluminum panels on curtain walls on sky scrapers. I would trust it totally as long as it was not bought at HomeDepot. I have tested it with heavy loads and the aluminum frame failed before the tape and glass module! Bill Bill On May 30, 2013 7:58 PM, wrote: > I would not trust adhesive on the backs of panels for decades. This would > be especially a concern with tiltups or ground mounts where there is more > wind loading. > When mounting some frameless BP modules I made some 4-inch long edge > moldings of slotted hard foam called SeaFoam that is sold (but not > manufactured) by Tap Plastics. > Then they were compatible with standard bolt-down edge- and mid-clamps. > Don Barch > Energy Solar > > On 5/30/2013 4:14 PM, Todd Cory wrote: > wrenches, > > i have a customer who purchased 20 used astropower ap75 modules. they are > frameless and appear to have been previously mounted using four, 2" wide X > 10" long strips of blue rigid foam, glued to the back of each module with > some kind of adhesive. > > two questions: > > this seems to be a reasonable mounting system id like to repeat. would > anyone familiar with this kind of mounting technique be willing to > comment/speculate on an adhesive that would not degrade the tedlar > backsheet? whatever was previously used worked great. > > what kind of flat/smooth mounting surface would folks suggest the other > side of the blue foam be attached to? the only thing i can think of is > plywood, but that would rot over time. > > thanks, > > todd > > ___ > List sponsored by Home Power magazine > > List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org > > Change email address & settings: > http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org > > List-Archive: > http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org > > List rules & etiquette: > www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm > > Check out participant bios: > www.members.re-wrenches.org > > > ___ List sponsored by Home Power magazine List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Change email address & settings: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List-Archive: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List rules & etiquette: www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm Check out participant bios: www.members.re-wrenches.org
Re: [RE-wrenches] used panel mount questions
I would not trust adhesive on the backs of panels for decades. This would be especially a concern with tiltups or ground mounts where there is more wind loading. When mounting some frameless BP modules I made some 4-inch long edge moldings of slotted hard foam called SeaFoam that is sold (but not manufactured) by Tap Plastics. Then they were compatible with standard bolt-down edge- and mid-clamps.Don BarchEnergy SolarOn 5/30/2013 4:14 PM, Todd Cory wrote: wrenches, i have a customer who purchased 20 used astropower ap75 modules. they are frameless and appear to have been previously mounted using four, 2" wide X 10" long strips of blue rigid foam, glued to the back of each module with some kind of adhesive. two questions: this seems to be a reasonable mounting system id like to repeat. would anyone familiar with this kind of mounting technique be willing to comment/speculate on an adhesive that would not degrade the tedlar backsheet? whatever was previously used worked great. what kind of flat/smooth mounting surface would folks suggest the other side of the blue foam be attached to? the only thing i can think of is plywood, but that would rot over time. thanks, todd ___ List sponsored by Home Power magazine List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Change email address & settings: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List-Archive: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List rules & etiquette: www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm Check out participant bios: www.members.re-wrenches.org
Re: [RE-wrenches] used panel mount questions
Haticon would be another option. Sent from W.W.W'S iPhone On May 30, 2013, at 4:41 PM, Chris Mason wrote: > Schletter makes those clamps. > > > On Thu, May 30, 2013 at 7:25 PM, Exeltech wrote: >> >> I've seen rack "edge clamps" for frameless PV advertised, but didn't make a >> mental note of made by whom, or where I saw the ad. I *do* recall the clamps >> were intended to be located along the long edges, not the ends. Otherwise, >> expansion/contraction would stress/break the glass. >> >> There's a wealth of knowledge and know-how here. Someone with the answer >> will chime in. >> >> >> Dan >> >> --- On Thu, 5/30/13, toddc...@finestplanet.com >> wrote: >> >> From: toddc...@finestplanet.com >> >> Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] used panel mount questions >> To: "RE-wrenches" >> Date: Thursday, May 30, 2013, 6:06 PM >> >> >> good point dan... i wonder how frameless modules are intended to be mounted? >> >> todd >> >> >> >> >> On Thursday, May 30, 2013 4:00pm, "Exeltech" said: >> >> I agree with Allen, and would like to add a related comment. Foam boards are >> thermally insulative in nature. If affixed to the PV with adhesive, they >> would >> cause the PV module to run hotter than if the backsheet was fully exposed >> to the air. >> >> This results in reduced energy output under all conditions, and increased >> thermal stresses on the PV cells, internal buss, bonds, and other aspects >> of the PV. >> >> >> Dan >> >> >> --- On Thu, 5/30/13, Allan Sindelar wrote: >> >> From: Allan Sindelar >> Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] used panel mount questions >> To: "RE-wrenches" >> Date: Thursday, May 30, 2013, 5:46 PM >> >> >> Todd, >> I don't have your answers, only the caution that "blue foam" to many of us >> with a construction background means extruded polystyrene or "blueboard", >> commonly used around foundations. It deteriorates with exposure to sunlight, >> so could only be used in an application such as this if protected from UV. >> Allan >> >> Allan Sindelar >> al...@positiveenergysolar.com >> NABCEP Certified Photovoltaic Installer >> NABCEP Certified Technical Sales Professional >> New Mexico EE98J Journeyman Electrician >> Founder and Chief Technology Officer >> Positive Energy, Inc. >> 3209 Richards Lane (note new address) >> Santa Fe, New Mexico 87507 >> 505 424-1112 >> www.positiveenergysolar.com >> >> >> On 5/30/2013 4:14 PM, Todd Cory wrote: >> wrenches, >> >> i have a customer who purchased 20 used astropower ap75 modules. they are >> frameless and appear to have been previously mounted using four, 2" wide X >> 10" long strips of blue rigid foam, glued to the back of each module with >> some kind of adhesive. >> >> two questions: >> >> this seems to be a reasonable mounting system id like to repeat. would >> anyone familiar with this kind of mounting technique be willing to >> comment/speculate on an adhesive that would not degrade the tedlar >> backsheet? whatever was previously used worked great. >> >> what kind of flat/smooth mounting surface would folks suggest the other side >> of the blue foam be attached to? the only thing i can think of is plywood, >> but that would rot over time. >> >> thanks, >> >> todd >> >> >> >> >> ___ List sponsored by Home Power >> magazine List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Change email >> address & settings: >> http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org >> List-Archive: >> http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List >> rules & etiquette: www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm Check out participant >> bios: www.members.re-wrenches.org >> >> -Inline Attachment Follows- >> >> ___ >> List sponsored by Home Power magazine >> >> List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org >> >> Change email address & settings: >> http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org >> >> List-Archive: >> http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org >> >> List rules &am
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Schletter makes those clamps. On Thu, May 30, 2013 at 7:25 PM, Exeltech wrote: > I've seen rack "edge clamps" for frameless PV advertised, but didn't make a > mental note of made by whom, or where I saw the ad. I *do* recall the > clamps > were intended to be located along the long edges, not the ends. Otherwise, > expansion/contraction would stress/break the glass. > > There's a wealth of knowledge and know-how here. Someone with the answer > will chime in. > > > Dan > > --- On *Thu, 5/30/13, toddc...@finestplanet.com >* wrote: > > > From: toddc...@finestplanet.com > > Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] used panel mount questions > To: "RE-wrenches" > Date: Thursday, May 30, 2013, 6:06 PM > > > good point dan... i wonder how frameless modules are intended to be > mounted? > > > > todd > > > > > > > > > > On Thursday, May 30, 2013 4:00pm, "Exeltech" said: > > I agree with Allen, and would like to add a related comment. Foam > boards are > thermally insulative in nature. If affixed to the PV with adhesive, they > would > cause the PV module to run hotter than if the backsheet was fully exposed > to the air. > > This results in reduced energy output under all conditions, and increased > thermal stresses on the PV cells, internal buss, bonds, and other aspects > of the PV. > > > Dan > > > --- On *Thu, 5/30/13, Allan Sindelar *wrote: > > > From: Allan Sindelar > Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] used panel mount questions > To: "RE-wrenches" > Date: Thursday, May 30, 2013, 5:46 PM > > > Todd, > I don't have your answers, only the caution that "blue foam" to many of us > with a construction background means extruded polystyrene or "blueboard", > commonly used around foundations. It deteriorates with exposure to > sunlight, so could only be used in an application such as this if protected > from UV. > Allan > > *Allan Sindelar* > al...@positiveenergysolar.com > NABCEP Certified Photovoltaic Installer > NABCEP Certified Technical Sales Professional > New Mexico EE98J Journeyman Electrician > Founder and Chief Technology Officer > *Positive Energy, Inc.* > 3209 Richards Lane (note new address) > Santa Fe, New Mexico 87507 > *505 424-1112* > www.positiveenergysolar.com > > * > * > > On 5/30/2013 4:14 PM, Todd Cory wrote: > > wrenches, > > i have a customer who purchased 20 used astropower ap75 modules. they are > frameless and appear to have been previously mounted using four, 2" wide X > 10" long strips of blue rigid foam, glued to the back of each module with > some kind of adhesive. > > two questions: > > this seems to be a reasonable mounting system id like to repeat. would > anyone familiar with this kind of mounting technique be willing to > comment/speculate on an adhesive that would not degrade the tedlar > backsheet? whatever was previously used worked great. > > what kind of flat/smooth mounting surface would folks suggest the other > side of the blue foam be attached to? the only thing i can think of is > plywood, but that would rot over time. > > thanks, > > todd > > > > > ___ List sponsored by Home > Power magazine List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Change > email address & settings: > http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.orgList-Archive: > http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List > rules & etiquette: www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm Check out > participant bios: www.members.re-wrenches.org > > > -Inline Attachment Follows- > > ___ > List sponsored by Home Power magazine > > List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org > > Change email address & settings: > http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org > > List-Archive: > http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org > > List rules & etiquette: > www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm > > Check out participant bios: > www.members.re-wrenches.org > > > > > Sent from Finest Planet WebMail. > > -Inline Attachment Follows- > > ___ > List sponsored by Home Power magazine > > List Address: > RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org<http://mc/compose?to=RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org> > > Change email address & settings: > http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org > > List-Archive: > h
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Hi Dan, Schletter solar has some. under their Laminate modules and accessories section. jay peltz power On May 30, 2013, at 4:25 PM, Exeltech wrote: > I've seen rack "edge clamps" for frameless PV advertised, but didn't make a > mental note of made by whom, or where I saw the ad. I *do* recall the clamps > were intended to be located along the long edges, not the ends. Otherwise, > expansion/contraction would stress/break the glass. > > There's a wealth of knowledge and know-how here. Someone with the answer > will chime in. > > > Dan > > --- On Thu, 5/30/13, toddc...@finestplanet.com > wrote: > > From: toddc...@finestplanet.com > Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] used panel mount questions > To: "RE-wrenches" > Date: Thursday, May 30, 2013, 6:06 PM > > good point dan... i wonder how frameless modules are intended to be mounted? > > todd > > > > > On Thursday, May 30, 2013 4:00pm, "Exeltech" said: > > I agree with Allen, and would like to add a related comment. Foam boards are > thermally insulative in nature. If affixed to the PV with adhesive, they > would > cause the PV module to run hotter than if the backsheet was fully exposed > to the air. > > This results in reduced energy output under all conditions, and increased > thermal stresses on the PV cells, internal buss, bonds, and other aspects > of the PV. > > > Dan > > > --- On Thu, 5/30/13, Allan Sindelar wrote: > > From: Allan Sindelar > Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] used panel mount questions > To: "RE-wrenches" > Date: Thursday, May 30, 2013, 5:46 PM > > > Todd, > I don't have your answers, only the caution that "blue foam" to many of us > with a construction background means extruded polystyrene or "blueboard", > commonly used around foundations. It deteriorates with exposure to sunlight, > so could only be used in an application such as this if protected from UV. > Allan > > Allan Sindelar > al...@positiveenergysolar.com > NABCEP Certified Photovoltaic Installer > NABCEP Certified Technical Sales Professional > New Mexico EE98J Journeyman Electrician > Founder and Chief Technology Officer > Positive Energy, Inc. > 3209 Richards Lane (note new address) > Santa Fe, New Mexico 87507 > 505 424-1112 > www.positiveenergysolar.com > > > On 5/30/2013 4:14 PM, Todd Cory wrote: > wrenches, > > i have a customer who purchased 20 used astropower ap75 modules. they are > frameless and appear to have been previously mounted using four, 2" wide X > 10" long strips of blue rigid foam, glued to the back of each module with > some kind of adhesive. > > two questions: > > this seems to be a reasonable mounting system id like to repeat. would anyone > familiar with this kind of mounting technique be willing to comment/speculate > on an adhesive that would not degrade the tedlar backsheet? whatever was > previously used worked great. > > what kind of flat/smooth mounting surface would folks suggest the other side > of the blue foam be attached to? the only thing i can think of is plywood, > but that would rot over time. > > thanks, > > todd > > > > > ___ List sponsored by Home Power > magazine List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Change email address > & settings: > http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org > List-Archive: > http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List rules > & etiquette: www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm Check out participant bios: > www.members.re-wrenches.org > > -Inline Attachment Follows- > > ___ > List sponsored by Home Power magazine > > List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org > > Change email address & settings: > http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org > > List-Archive: > http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org > > List rules & etiquette: > www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm > > Check out participant bios: > www.members.re-wrenches.org > > > > > Sent from Finest Planet WebMail. > > -Inline Attachment Follows- > > ___ > List sponsored by Home Power magazine > > List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org > > Change email address & settings: > http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org > > List-Archive: > http://lists.re-wrenc
Re: [RE-wrenches] used panel mount questions
I've seen rack "edge clamps" for frameless PV advertised, but didn't make a mental note of made by whom, or where I saw the ad. I *do* recall the clamps were intended to be located along the long edges, not the ends. Otherwise, expansion/contraction would stress/break the glass. There's a wealth of knowledge and know-how here. Someone with the answer will chime in. Dan --- On Thu, 5/30/13, toddc...@finestplanet.com wrote: From: toddc...@finestplanet.com Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] used panel mount questions To: "RE-wrenches" Date: Thursday, May 30, 2013, 6:06 PM good point dan... i wonder how frameless modules are intended to be mounted? todd On Thursday, May 30, 2013 4:00pm, "Exeltech" said: I agree with Allen, and would like to add a related comment. Foam boards are thermally insulative in nature. If affixed to the PV with adhesive, they would cause the PV module to run hotter than if the backsheet was fully exposed to the air. This results in reduced energy output under all conditions, and increased thermal stresses on the PV cells, internal buss, bonds, and other aspects of the PV. Dan --- On Thu, 5/30/13, Allan Sindelar wrote: From: Allan Sindelar Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] used panel mount questions To: "RE-wrenches" Date: Thursday, May 30, 2013, 5:46 PM Todd, I don't have your answers, only the caution that "blue foam" to many of us with a construction background means extruded polystyrene or "blueboard", commonly used around foundations. It deteriorates with exposure to sunlight, so could only be used in an application such as this if protected from UV. Allan Allan Sindelar al...@positiveenergysolar.com NABCEP Certified Photovoltaic Installer NABCEP Certified Technical Sales Professional New Mexico EE98J Journeyman Electrician Founder and Chief Technology Officer Positive Energy, Inc. 3209 Richards Lane (note new address) Santa Fe, New Mexico 87507 505 424-1112 www.positiveenergysolar.com On 5/30/2013 4:14 PM, Todd Cory wrote: wrenches, i have a customer who purchased 20 used astropower ap75 modules. they are frameless and appear to have been previously mounted using four, 2" wide X 10" long strips of blue rigid foam, glued to the back of each module with some kind of adhesive. two questions: this seems to be a reasonable mounting system id like to repeat. would anyone familiar with this kind of mounting technique be willing to comment/speculate on an adhesive that would not degrade the tedlar backsheet? whatever was previously used worked great. what kind of flat/smooth mounting surface would folks suggest the other side of the blue foam be attached to? the only thing i can think of is plywood, but that would rot over time. thanks, todd ___ List sponsored by Home Power magazine List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Change email address & settings: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List-Archive: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List rules & etiquette: www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm Check out participant bios: www.members.re-wrenches.org -Inline Attachment Follows- ___ List sponsored by Home Power magazine List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Change email address & settings: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List-Archive: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List rules & etiquette: www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm Check out participant bios: www.members.re-wrenches.org Sent from Finest Planet WebMail. -Inline Attachment Follows- ___ List sponsored by Home Power magazine List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Change email address & settings: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List-Archive: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List rules & etiquette: www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm Check out participant bios: www.members.re-wrenches.org ___ List sponsored by Home Power magazine List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Change email address & settings: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List-Archive: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List rules & etiquette: www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm Check out participant bios: www.members.re-wrenches.org
Re: [RE-wrenches] used panel mount questions
good point dan... i wonder how frameless modules are intended to be mounted? todd On Thursday, May 30, 2013 4:00pm, "Exeltech" said: I agree with Allen, and would like to add a related comment. Foam boards are thermally insulative in nature. If affixed to the PV with adhesive, they would cause the PV module to run hotter than if the backsheet was fully exposed to the air. This results in reduced energy output under all conditions, and increased thermal stresses on the PV cells, internal buss, bonds, and other aspects of the PV. Dan --- On Thu, 5/30/13, Allan Sindelar wrote: From: Allan Sindelar Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] used panel mount questions To: "RE-wrenches" Date: Thursday, May 30, 2013, 5:46 PM Todd, I don't have your answers, only the caution that "blue foam" to many of us with a construction background means extruded polystyrene or "blueboard", commonly used around foundations. It deteriorates with exposure to sunlight, so could only be used in an application such as this if protected from UV. Allan Allan Sindelar [/mc/compose?to=al...@positiveenergysolar.com] al...@positiveenergysolar.com NABCEP Certified Photovoltaic Installer NABCEP Certified Technical Sales Professional New Mexico EE98J Journeyman Electrician Founder and Chief Technology Officer Positive Energy, Inc. 3209 Richards Lane (note new address) Santa Fe, New Mexico 87507 505 424-1112 [http://www.positiveenergysolar.com/] www.positiveenergysolar.com On 5/30/2013 4:14 PM, Todd Cory wrote:wrenches, i have a customer who purchased 20 used astropower ap75 modules. they are frameless and appear to have been previously mounted using four, 2" wide X 10" long strips of blue rigid foam, glued to the back of each module with some kind of adhesive. two questions: this seems to be a reasonable mounting system id like to repeat. would anyone familiar with this kind of mounting technique be willing to comment/speculate on an adhesive that would not degrade the tedlar backsheet? whatever was previously used worked great. what kind of flat/smooth mounting surface would folks suggest the other side of the blue foam be attached to? the only thing i can think of is plywood, but that would rot over time. thanks, todd ___List sponsored by Home Power magazineList Address: [/mc/compose?to=RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org] re-wrenc...@lists.re-wrenches.orgChange email address & settings:[http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org] http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.orgList-Archive: [http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org] http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.orgList rules & etiquette:[http://www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm] www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htmCheck out participant bios:[http://www.members.re-wrenches.org] www.members.re-wrenches.org -Inline Attachment Follows- ___ List sponsored by Home Power magazine List Address: [/mc/compose?to=RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org] RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Change email address & settings: [http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org] http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List-Archive: [http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org] http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List rules & etiquette: www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm Check out participant bios: www.members.re-wrenches.org Sent from Finest Planet WebMail. ___ List sponsored by Home Power magazine List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Change email address & settings: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List-Archive: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List rules & etiquette: www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm Check out participant bios: www.members.re-wrenches.org
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I agree with Allen, and would like to add a related comment. Foam boards are thermally insulative in nature. If affixed to the PV with adhesive, they would cause the PV module to run hotter than if the backsheet was fully exposed to the air. This results in reduced energy output under all conditions, and increased thermal stresses on the PV cells, internal buss, bonds, and other aspects of the PV. Dan --- On Thu, 5/30/13, Allan Sindelar wrote: From: Allan Sindelar Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] used panel mount questions To: "RE-wrenches" Date: Thursday, May 30, 2013, 5:46 PM Todd, I don't have your answers, only the caution that "blue foam" to many of us with a construction background means extruded polystyrene or "blueboard", commonly used around foundations. It deteriorates with exposure to sunlight, so could only be used in an application such as this if protected from UV. Allan Allan Sindelar al...@positiveenergysolar.com NABCEP Certified Photovoltaic Installer NABCEP Certified Technical Sales Professional New Mexico EE98J Journeyman Electrician Founder and Chief Technology Officer Positive Energy, Inc. 3209 Richards Lane (note new address) Santa Fe, New Mexico 87507 505 424-1112 www.positiveenergysolar.com On 5/30/2013 4:14 PM, Todd Cory wrote: wrenches, i have a customer who purchased 20 used astropower ap75 modules. they are frameless and appear to have been previously mounted using four, 2" wide X 10" long strips of blue rigid foam, glued to the back of each module with some kind of adhesive. two questions: this seems to be a reasonable mounting system id like to repeat. would anyone familiar with this kind of mounting technique be willing to comment/speculate on an adhesive that would not degrade the tedlar backsheet? whatever was previously used worked great. what kind of flat/smooth mounting surface would folks suggest the other side of the blue foam be attached to? the only thing i can think of is plywood, but that would rot over time. thanks, todd ___ List sponsored by Home Power magazine List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Change email address & settings: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List-Archive: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List rules & etiquette: www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm Check out participant bios: www.members.re-wrenches.org -Inline Attachment Follows- ___ List sponsored by Home Power magazine List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Change email address & settings: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List-Archive: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List rules & etiquette: www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm Check out participant bios: www.members.re-wrenches.org ___ List sponsored by Home Power magazine List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Change email address & settings: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List-Archive: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List rules & etiquette: www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm Check out participant bios: www.members.re-wrenches.org
Re: [RE-wrenches] used panel mount questions
Hi Allan and Todd. these modules sound like the ones that Powerlight used back many years ago. These modules were mounted flat with the blue foam as insulation/mounting. the concept while pretty cool at first look didn't work out. Not sure what to tell you about what/how to mount them too however. jay peltz power On May 30, 2013, at 3:46 PM, Allan Sindelar wrote: > Todd, > I don't have your answers, only the caution that "blue foam" to many of us > with a construction background means extruded polystyrene or "blueboard", > commonly used around foundations. It deteriorates with exposure to sunlight, > so could only be used in an application such as this if protected from UV. > Allan > > Allan Sindelar > al...@positiveenergysolar.com > NABCEP Certified Photovoltaic Installer > NABCEP Certified Technical Sales Professional > New Mexico EE98J Journeyman Electrician > Founder and Chief Technology Officer > Positive Energy, Inc. > 3209 Richards Lane (note new address) > Santa Fe, New Mexico 87507 > 505 424-1112 > www.positiveenergysolar.com > > > > On 5/30/2013 4:14 PM, Todd Cory wrote: >> wrenches, >> >> i have a customer who purchased 20 used astropower ap75 modules. they are >> frameless and appear to have been previously mounted using four, 2" wide X >> 10" long strips of blue rigid foam, glued to the back of each module with >> some kind of adhesive. >> >> two questions: >> >> this seems to be a reasonable mounting system id like to repeat. would >> anyone familiar with this kind of mounting technique be willing to >> comment/speculate on an adhesive that would not degrade the tedlar >> backsheet? whatever was previously used worked great. >> >> what kind of flat/smooth mounting surface would folks suggest the other side >> of the blue foam be attached to? the only thing i can think of is plywood, >> but that would rot over time. >> >> thanks, >> >> todd >> >> >> >> >> ___ >> List sponsored by Home Power magazine >> >> List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org >> >> Change email address & settings: >> http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org >> >> List-Archive: >> http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org >> >> List rules & etiquette: >> www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm >> >> Check out participant bios: >> www.members.re-wrenches.org >> > > ___ > List sponsored by Home Power magazine > > List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org > > Change email address & settings: > http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org > > List-Archive: > http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org > > List rules & etiquette: > www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm > > Check out participant bios: > www.members.re-wrenches.org > ___ List sponsored by Home Power magazine List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Change email address & settings: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List-Archive: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List rules & etiquette: www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm Check out participant bios: www.members.re-wrenches.org
Re: [RE-wrenches] used panel mount questions
Todd, I don't have your answers, only the caution that "blue foam" to many of us with a construction background means extruded polystyrene or "blueboard", commonly used around foundations. It deteriorates with exposure to sunlight, so could only be used in an application such as this if protected from UV. Allan Allan Sindelar al...@positiveenergysolar.com NABCEP Certified Photovoltaic Installer NABCEP Certified Technical Sales Professional New Mexico EE98J Journeyman Electrician Founder and Chief Technology Officer Positive Energy, Inc. 3209 Richards Lane (note new address) Santa Fe, New Mexico 87507 505 424-1112 www.positiveenergysolar.com On 5/30/2013 4:14 PM, Todd Cory wrote: wrenches, i have a customer who purchased 20 used astropower ap75 modules. they are frameless and appear to have been previously mounted using four, 2" wide X 10" long strips of blue rigid foam, glued to the back of each module with some kind of adhesive. two questions: this seems to be a reasonable mounting system id like to repeat. would anyone familiar with this kind of mounting technique be willing to comment/speculate on an adhesive that would not degrade the tedlar backsheet? whatever was previously used worked great. what kind of flat/smooth mounting surface would folks suggest the other side of the blue foam be attached to? the only thing i can think of is plywood, but that would rot over time. thanks, todd ___ List sponsored by Home Power magazine List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Change email address & settings: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List-Archive: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List rules & etiquette: www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm Check out participant bios: www.members.re-wrenches.org ___ List sponsored by Home Power magazine List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Change email address & settings: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List-Archive: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List rules & etiquette: www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm Check out participant bios: www.members.re-wrenches.org
[RE-wrenches] used panel mount questions
wrenches, i have a customer who purchased 20 used astropower ap75 modules. they are frameless and appear to have been previously mounted using four, 2" wide X 10" long strips of blue rigid foam, glued to the back of each module with some kind of adhesive. two questions: this seems to be a reasonable mounting system id like to repeat. would anyone familiar with this kind of mounting technique be willing to comment/speculate on an adhesive that would not degrade the tedlar backsheet? whatever was previously used worked great. what kind of flat/smooth mounting surface would folks suggest the other side of the blue foam be attached to? the only thing i can think of is plywood, but that would rot over time. thanks, todd ___ List sponsored by Home Power magazine List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Change email address & settings: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List-Archive: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List rules & etiquette: www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm Check out participant bios: www.members.re-wrenches.org
