[REBOL] Re: REBOL/View 1.3
Hey! don't push too hard, or I may tell you who is Predident of the United States in 2024... ;^) Patrick - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2004 11:09 PM Subject: [REBOL] Re: REBOL/View 1.3 Hallvard: Interresting link. Thanks. And a special greeting to Philippe Oehler, who seems to have been discussing rebol matters since 1980... hehe. And a special tip of the hat to Patrick who's posting from way in the future: http://www.rebol.org/cgi-bin/cgiwrap/rebol/ml-month-index.r?month=202406 :-) Sunanda. -- To unsubscribe from this list, just send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the subject. -- To unsubscribe from this list, just send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the subject.
[REBOL] Re: REBOL/View 1.3
Hi Gregg, I have try to log as a guest, but a password is required that I don't have. Regards Patrick - Original Message - From: Gregg Irwin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2004 8:09 PM Subject: [REBOL] Re: REBOL/View 1.3 Hi Patrick, ppln A lot of things are going on in the Rebol world, and the list is ppln barely aware of it. ppln I have discovered recently http://www.rebol.net/projects/view1.3/. ppln Every thing seems to be on AltME now, whith very little echo ppln here and the weblog is very difficult to read. My take is that RT wanted the community involved, but in an experimental way. They also needed a good, controlled, communication mechanism, which AltME is. I don't think their intent was to exclude anyone who wanted to be involved, but it wouldn't work, as a first time experiment, to have hundreds of people involved either. ppln Isn't it possible, even for someone like me that do not have to ppln skills to participate actively to the project, to be a little ppln more aware of what is going on? Everyone can help, especially with testing. RT may not be pushing hard for lots of public input yet because some things are still in flux and you know how people can be when the thing they want doesn't get on the list, or is pulled from the release. :) ppln Is it possible to visit your AltME world as a guest? Yes. -- Gregg -- To unsubscribe from this list, just send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the subject. -- To unsubscribe from this list, just send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the subject.
[REBOL] Re: REBOL/View 1.3
Hi Pekr, I am optimistic... and frustrated. It's like people you know having a party next door and not telling you. I'am eager to get my fingers on View 1.3. Regards Patrick - Original Message - From: Petr Krenzelok [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2004 7:17 PM Subject: [REBOL] Re: REBOL/View 1.3 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi List, A lot of things are going on in the Rebol world, and the list is barely aware of it. I have discovered recently http://www.rebol.net/projects/view1.3/. Every thing seems to be on AltME now, whith very little echo here and the weblog is very difficult to read. I feel a bit frustrated with all this. Isn't it possible, even for someone like me that do not have to skills to participate actively to the project, to be a little more aware of what is going on? Is it possible to visit your AltME world as a guest? All I can do is to download and use every View release. Regards Patrick Patrick - noone wants to prevent anyone from joining? In fact, IIRC, Carl openly invited everyone to participate - just contact Gregg, ask him for account and you are in! You should be glad View 1.3 is coming to its life nicely, and be a bit more optimistic :-) -pekr- -- To unsubscribe from this list, just send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the subject. -- To unsubscribe from this list, just send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the subject.
[REBOL] Re: REBOL/View 1.3
none none=== Original Message === none none noneHi Gregg, none noneI have try to log as a guest, but a password is required that I don't nonehave. use guest and guest as password/go to accounts and tell them your user name/the password you want to use/it will be mailed to you and once you login you can change the password.This was send via Phil B. mailreader.r -- To unsubscribe from this list, just send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the subject.
[REBOL] Re: REBOL/View 1.3
Hi Patrick, On Friday, January 30, 2004, 8:52:11 AM, you wrote: ppln I am optimistic... and frustrated. It's like people you know having a party ppln next door and not telling you. It has been announced here on the list. And all the discussions are on the web too, so you don't need to use AltME if you just want to follow. Regards, Gabriele. -- Gabriele Santilli [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- REBOL Programmer Amiga Group Italia sez. L'Aquila --- SOON: http://www.rebol.it/ -- To unsubscribe from this list, just send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the subject.
[REBOL] Re: REBOL/View 1.3
Hi Gabriele, Weblog are very difficult to read. For example, I have seen somewhere something about a view-feel.r file. It is quite a miracle, that I have found elsewhere where to download it. And I haven't still found what to do about it. Ciao Patrick - Original Message - From: Gabriele Santilli [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, January 30, 2004 10:12 AM Subject: [REBOL] Re: REBOL/View 1.3 Hi Patrick, On Friday, January 30, 2004, 8:52:11 AM, you wrote: ppln I am optimistic... and frustrated. It's like people you know having a party ppln next door and not telling you. It has been announced here on the list. And all the discussions are on the web too, so you don't need to use AltME if you just want to follow. Regards, Gabriele. -- Gabriele Santilli [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- REBOL Programmer Amiga Group Italia sez. L'Aquila --- SOON: http://www.rebol.it/ -- To unsubscribe from this list, just send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the subject. -- To unsubscribe from this list, just send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the subject.
[REBOL] Re: REBOL/View 1.3
Hey! don't push too hard, or I may tell you who is President of the United States in 2024... ;^) hmm -- btw, What's her name ? -- To unsubscribe from this list, just send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the subject.
[REBOL] Re: REBOL/View 1.3
Hi Patrick, Here is one place I look at to keep me informed about View 1.3 dev status - since don't have time enough to invest in any other discussion. While this time I use it as much as I can as my current testing tool - even while learning basic things. Just to see anything follows the already documented and established old rules - if this must be so ... http://www.rebol.net/cgi-bin/projects/track.r Regards, Gerard - Original Message - From: Gabriele Santilli [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, January 30, 2004 4:12 AM Subject: [REBOL] Re: REBOL/View 1.3 Hi Patrick, On Friday, January 30, 2004, 8:52:11 AM, you wrote: ppln I am optimistic... and frustrated. It's like people you know having a party ppln next door and not telling you. It has been announced here on the list. And all the discussions are on the web too, so you don't need to use AltME if you just want to follow. Regards, Gabriele. -- Gabriele Santilli [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- REBOL Programmer Amiga Group Italia sez. L'Aquila --- SOON: http://www.rebol.it/ -- To unsubscribe from this list, just send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the subject. -- To unsubscribe from this list, just send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the subject.
[REBOL] Re: REBOL/View 1.3
Hi Jason, On Friday, January 30, 2004, 12:46:23 PM, you wrote: JC hmm -- btw, What's her name ? Lisa Simpson? (Sorry, couldn't resist.) Regards, Gabriele. -- Gabriele Santilli [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- REBOL Programmer Amiga Group Italia sez. L'Aquila --- SOON: http://www.rebol.it/ -- To unsubscribe from this list, just send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the subject.
[REBOL] Data retrieval
Hi fellow rebols,
I'm writing a script to collect data from various web pages and send the results in an
email.
Most web pages are ok but a few cause some problems.
Here's an example:
www.tradesports.com
This page allows you to place bets on various topics.
I want to extract this kind of information, but the links trigger javascript functions
so there appears to be no direct URLs to the resulting pages.
I figure I need to open an HTTP port and post whatever the javascript function sends
myself.
Here's an example of a javascript function call in a link:
a href=# onClick=javascript:trade(88190);return false;Trade This Now!/a
And here's the trade function:
function trade(conID)
{
document.POSTGSX.request_operation.value = trade;
document.POSTGSX.request_type.value = action;
document.POSTGSX.selConID.value = conID;
document.POSTGSX.location.value = TradeCentre;
document.POSTGSX.submit();
}
I don't know much about javascript and HTTP post.
From what I can gather I need to send the same information to the server as the
submit() function above, but I have absolutely no idea of what information is sent or
how to send it. Also, how do I receive the result? Can I open an http port to achieve
this?
Any help greatly appreciated!
Cheers,
Gisle
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[REBOL] Re: REBOL/View 1.3
Quite informative, Thanks Gérard - Original Message - From: Gerard Cote [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, January 30, 2004 1:32 PM Subject: [REBOL] Re: REBOL/View 1.3 Hi Patrick, Here is one place I look at to keep me informed about View 1.3 dev status - since don't have time enough to invest in any other discussion. While this time I use it as much as I can as my current testing tool - even while learning basic things. Just to see anything follows the already documented and established old rules - if this must be so ... http://www.rebol.net/cgi-bin/projects/track.r Regards, Gerard - Original Message - From: Gabriele Santilli [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, January 30, 2004 4:12 AM Subject: [REBOL] Re: REBOL/View 1.3 Hi Patrick, On Friday, January 30, 2004, 8:52:11 AM, you wrote: ppln I am optimistic... and frustrated. It's like people you know having a party ppln next door and not telling you. It has been announced here on the list. And all the discussions are on the web too, so you don't need to use AltME if you just want to follow. Regards, Gabriele. -- Gabriele Santilli [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- REBOL Programmer Amiga Group Italia sez. L'Aquila --- SOON: http://www.rebol.it/ -- To unsubscribe from this list, just send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the subject. -- To unsubscribe from this list, just send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the subject. -- To unsubscribe from this list, just send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the subject.
[REBOL] Re: This is dumb (don't do it!)
Hi Hallvard, OK, the reason I did this, is I wonder if I can have a CGI script close the connection to user and then continue processing some data afterwards. So that the web user wouldn't have to wait ages for the browser to tell him the page has finished loading when actually it is. The following CGI script didn't do the trick. Anyone got an idea? I tried to find a foolproof way of doing this for something we needed or REBOL.org. I failed. Part of the problem is that you can't control when the server sends the data. If you only have a small amount of data (not enough to fill whatever is a block transmitted across the Internet) that probably won't be until your CGI quits. I tried various cunning schemes, like explicitly setting a Content-length header and then sending more data than that (to force a block transmit). They didn't work. In the end, in our case, as we only need to run some non-user background stuff occasionally, I added some rudimentary code to check that the request is not from a human being. So we only run the background task if the referrer is a bot. I don't mind keeping them waiting a couple of seconds once in a while. And the background task is self-limiting -- it'll stop after a couple of seconds, whether it's finished or not. The site is hit by bots hundreds of times a day -- so the background task never has to wait long to resume. This kludge works because the background processing we need to do is not related to the current message -- it's the equivalent of an occasional recycle to keep things current. Of course, we have to check that the background task isn't already running (if we get two bots that trigger it in the same second or so). If you find a better solution, please let me know! Sunanda. -- To unsubscribe from this list, just send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the subject.
[REBOL] Re: REBOL/View 1.3
AC use guest and guest as password/go to accounts and tell them your AC user name/the password you want to use/it will be mailed to you AC and once you login you can change the password. To clarify, there is no GUEST account on the REBOL-View world at this time, but there is one on the REBOL world. You can go to the View-Update group there to let us know you'd like an account. -- Gregg -- To unsubscribe from this list, just send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the subject.
[REBOL] Re: Data retrieval
Dixit Gisle Dankel (15.10 30.01.2004):
www.tradesports.com
Here's an example of a javascript function call in a link:
a href=# onClick=javascript:trade(88190);return false;Trade This Now!/a
And here's the trade function:
function trade(conID) {
document.POSTGSX.request_operation.value = trade;
document.POSTGSX.request_type.value = action;
document.POSTGSX.selConID.value = conID;
document.POSTGSX.location.value = TradeCentre;
document.POSTGSX.submit();
}
POSTGSX is the name of a form on the web page. request_operation etc. are the
different parameters in the form. Their values are set with the javascript. You need
to post something like this to the server:
request_operation=trade
request_type=action
selConID=conID ; remark: replace this with whatever value the variable represents
(i.e. whatever number is passed to the javascript function, e.g. 88190)
location=TradeCentre
As for how to POST via the HTTP protocol, cf.
http://www.w3.org/Protocols/rfc2616/rfc2616.html.
I don't know much about javascript and HTTP post.
From what I can gather I need to send the same information to the server as the
submit() function above, but I have absolutely no idea of what information is sent
or how to send it. Also, how do I receive the result? Can I open an http port to
achieve this?
Any help greatly appreciated!
Cheers,
Gisle
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[REBOL] Re: Data retrieval
Oh, and here's two more links:
Martin Johannesson has written a script to do the http posting for you:
http://www.reboltech.com/library/html/http-post.html
And you might find some of these scripts useful:
http://www.oops-as.no/rix?q=HTTP+postct=rebol
HY
Dixit Gisle Dankel (15.10 30.01.2004):
Hi fellow rebols,
I'm writing a script to collect data from various web pages and send the results in
an email.
Most web pages are ok but a few cause some problems.
Here's an example:
www.tradesports.com
This page allows you to place bets on various topics.
I want to extract this kind of information, but the links trigger javascript
functions so there appears to be no direct URLs to the resulting pages.
I figure I need to open an HTTP port and post whatever the javascript function sends
myself.
Here's an example of a javascript function call in a link:
a href=# onClick=javascript:trade(88190);return false;Trade This Now!/a
And here's the trade function:
function trade(conID)
{
document.POSTGSX.request_operation.value = trade;
document.POSTGSX.request_type.value = action;
document.POSTGSX.selConID.value = conID;
document.POSTGSX.location.value = TradeCentre;
document.POSTGSX.submit();
}
I don't know much about javascript and HTTP post.
From what I can gather I need to send the same information to the server as the
submit() function above, but I have absolutely no idea of what information is sent
or how to send it. Also, how do I receive the result? Can I open an http port to
achieve this?
Any help greatly appreciated!
Cheers,
Gisle
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[REBOL] Re: Data retrieval
Hi,
To know what a browser is saying to a server I wrote a
'remote echo proxy' several years back and am slowly improving it.
I recently changed to echos the request into a frame above the page
and have not tested it very much at all but you are welcome to try.
to try the current version, set your browsers http proxy to
Proxy: bionix.cs.uoregon.edu
Port: 3776
It is not really ready for prime time but often gets the job done.
now that I have started playing with 'view I am tempted
to make a 'local echo proxy' people could run on their own machines which
would be an awful lot easier to make robust.
when directed to your page and link returns:
POST http://www.tradesports.com/ HTTP/1.0
User-Agent: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 5.0; Windows XP) Opera 6.05
[en]
Host: www.tradesports.com
Accept: text/html, image/png, image/jpeg, image/gif, image/x-xbitmap, */*
Accept-Language: en
Accept-Charset: windows-1252;q=1.0, utf-8;q=1.0, utf-16;q=1.0,
iso-8859-1;q=0.6, *;q=0.1
Accept-Encoding: deflate, gzip, x-gzip, identity, *;q=0
Referer: http://www.tradesports.com/
Proxy-Connection: close
Content-type: application/x-www-form-urlencoded
Content-length: 151
request_operation=traderequest_type=actioncontractBook=nonemdView=0incpage=isLive=trueselConID=6227eventSelect=location=TradeCentreupdateLis
On Fri, 30 Jan 2004, Gisle Dankel wrote:
Hi fellow rebols,
I'm writing a script to collect data from various web pages and send the results in
an email.
Most web pages are ok but a few cause some problems.
Here's an example:
www.tradesports.com
This page allows you to place bets on various topics.
I want to extract this kind of information, but the links trigger javascript
functions so there appears to be no direct URLs to the resulting pages.
I figure I need to open an HTTP port and post whatever the javascript function sends
myself.
Here's an example of a javascript function call in a link:
a href=# DEFANGED_OnClick=DEFANGED_javascript:trade(88190);return false;Trade
This Now!/a
And here's the trade function:
function trade(conID)
{
document.POSTGSX.request_operation.value = trade;
document.POSTGSX.request_type.value = action;
document.POSTGSX.selConID.value = conID;
document.POSTGSX.location.value = TradeCentre;
document.POSTGSX.submit();
}
I don't know much about javascript and HTTP post.
From what I can gather I need to send the same information to the server as the
submit() function above, but I have absolutely no idea of what information is sent
or how to send it. Also, how do I receive the result? Can I open an http port to
achieve this?
Any help greatly appreciated!
Cheers,
Gisle
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[REBOL] Re: Data retrieval
Tom Conlin wrote.. apparently on 30-Jan-2004/10:58:47-8:00 Hi, To know what a browser is saying to a server I wrote a 'remote echo proxy' several years back and am slowly improving it. Sterling also wrote a http proxy that you could use I guess http://www.rebol.org/cgi-bin/cgiwrap/rebol/view-script.r?script=proxy.r -- Graham Chiu http://www.compkarori.com/cerebrus -- To unsubscribe from this list, just send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the subject.
[REBOL] Re: Data retrieval
Dixit Graham Chiu (21.44 30.01.2004): Sterling also wrote a http proxy that you could use I guess http://www.rebol.org/cgi-bin/cgiwrap/rebol/view-script.r?script=proxy.r Which reminds me that I too once wrote a cacheserver that you couldt take a look at... : http://www.oops-as.no/roy/rebol-scripts/cacheserver.r HY Prætera censeo Carthaginem esse delendam -- To unsubscribe from this list, just send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the subject.
