[REBOL] [OT] DNS problems?

2004-02-03 Thread Ingo Hohmann

Hi Rebolers,

this is a highly offtopic message, but I think my got some DNS Server 
problems here, last week I wasn't able to reach some sites available 
before (and now again), but some sites still can't be found (for example 
http://www.payingfast.com/ ) does anyone know the IP address of a 
ameserver off the top of his head? I'd like to add it to my DNS servers 
and see if it works.


Thanks,

Ingo

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[REBOL] Re: [OT] DNS problems?

2004-02-03 Thread bry
no, but an tertiary topic to your off-topic, 
the following resource: 
http://dnsmon.ripe.net

 
 Hi Rebolers,
 
 this is a highly offtopic message, but I 
think my got some DNS Server 
 problems here, last week I wasn't able to 
reach some sites available 
 before (and now again), but some sites 
still can't be found (for example 
 http://www.payingfast.com/ ) does anyone 
know the IP address of a 
 ameserver off the top of his head? I'd 
like to add it to my DNS servers 
 and see if it works.
 
 
 Thanks,
 
 Ingo
 
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[REBOL] Re: [OT] DNS problems?

2004-02-03 Thread bry
no, but an tertiary topic to your off-topic, 
the following resource: 
http://dnsmon.ripe.net

 
 Hi Rebolers,
 
 this is a highly offtopic message, but I 
think my got some DNS Server 
 problems here, last week I wasn't able to 
reach some sites available 
 before (and now again), but some sites 
still can't be found (for example 
 http://www.payingfast.com/ ) does anyone 
know the IP address of a 
 ameserver off the top of his head? I'd 
like to add it to my DNS servers 
 and see if it works.
 
 
 Thanks,
 
 Ingo
 
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[REBOL] Telnet protocol scheme weirdness.

2004-02-03 Thread Bruno G. Albuquerque

Hello.

I am using the Telnet protocol scheme to control a telnet session with a
Rebol script. I am having one small problem that I didn't figured out
how to fix:

telnet: open telnet://xxx

[...]

insert telnet #{1B4F42}

The end result is that the above line will send #{1B4F420D0A} to the
server instead of what I wanted it to (#{1B4F42}). I already tried to
change the open line to:

telnet: open/binary telnet://xxx

But it didn't work.

In the Telnet scheme itself, it sets some flags. I wonder if these flags
are right:

port/state/flags: port/state/flags or system/standard/port-flags/direct
or 32 or 2051; No-Wait, BINARY (51) (2048)
port/sub-port/state/flags: port/sub-port/state/flags or 2051 or 32

Thanks in advance for any pointers.

-Bruno



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[REBOL] Re: [OT] DNS problems?

2004-02-03 Thread Ingo Hohmann

Hi bry,

actually the info on that site tells nought to me ;-) _But_ I was able to 
confirm that it must be a DNS problem, I was able to reach some of the 
pages through http://proxify.com/ (Anonymizer proxy).


Kind regards,

Ingo


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 no, but an tertiary topic to your off-topic, 
 the following resource: 
 http://dnsmon.ripe.net
 
 
Hi Rebolers,

this is a highly offtopic message, but I 
 
 think my got some DNS Server 
 
problems here, last week I wasn't able to 
 
 reach some sites available 
 
before (and now again), but some sites 
 
 still can't be found
..
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[REBOL] Re: Telnet protocol scheme weirdness.

2004-02-03 Thread Gabriele Santilli

Hi Bruno,

On Tuesday, February 3, 2004, 3:07:30 PM, you wrote:

BGA The end result is that the above line will send #{1B4F420D0A} to the
BGA server instead of what I wanted it to (#{1B4F42}). I already tried to
BGA change the open line to:

I guess it is opening the sub-port in /LINES mode.

BGA port/state/flags: port/state/flags or
BGA system/standard/port-flags/direct
BGA or 32 or 2051; No-Wait, BINARY (51) (2048)
BGA port/sub-port/state/flags: port/sub-port/state/flags or 2051 or 32

BTW,  should use SET-MODES here actually, AFAIK changing the flags
directly is deprecated.

Regards,
   Gabriele.
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[REBOL] 'recycle use

2004-02-03 Thread Paul Tretter
I'm a big confused on 'recycle.  How often should it be used - such as should it be 
called in a large forever loop where you might have a lot of set-word values that you 
are unsetting?  Or will this cause a performance hit from that forever loop?

Paul Tretter


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[REBOL] Re: Proposal: REBOL Documentation indexing system for newbies

2004-02-03 Thread Gregg Irwin

Hi Gerard,

Thanks for all the effort you're putting into this. I hope to have
time...before too long, to contribute to this project as well, from
the REBOL.org side.

-- Gregg

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[REBOL] Re: 'recycle use

2004-02-03 Thread Gregg Irwin

Hi Paul,

PT I'm a big confused on 'recycle.  How often should it be used -
PT such as should it be called in a large forever loop where you
PT might have a lot of set-word values that you are unsetting?  Or
PT will this cause a performance hit from that forever loop?

Using recycle will definitely cause a performance hit. It's unlikely
that you'll need to use it for 99% of your code. In cases where I use
it in a loop, I'll usually use a counter so I only call it every N
iterations. Sometimes a specific call or section of logic (e.g. where
a large series is allocated), can also be used as a trigger to keep
the recycle count down. 

-- Gregg 

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[REBOL] Re: 'recycle use

2004-02-03 Thread Paul Tretter

Thanks Gregg.  Gives me a few ideas.

Paul Tretter


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Subject: [REBOL] Re: 'recycle use


 
 Hi Paul,
 
 PT I'm a big confused on 'recycle.  How often should it be used -
 PT such as should it be called in a large forever loop where you
 PT might have a lot of set-word values that you are unsetting?  Or
 PT will this cause a performance hit from that forever loop?
 
 Using recycle will definitely cause a performance hit. It's unlikely
 that you'll need to use it for 99% of your code. In cases where I use
 it in a loop, I'll usually use a counter so I only call it every N
 iterations. Sometimes a specific call or section of logic (e.g. where
 a large series is allocated), can also be used as a trigger to keep
 the recycle count down. 
 
 -- Gregg 
 
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[REBOL] [documentation]

2004-02-03 Thread Maxim Olivier-Adlhoch

Gerard, 

Thanks for putting all that time and effort on the documentation front.

I think you've positioned yourself quite visibly as 'tha main man' wrt the 
documentation project, which so many of us are eager to use/write/help on.  I guess 
having  a good measure of time on your hands helps a lot.  :-)

If there is any concrete thing I can do to help you (en francais or in english, just 
ask)


Cheers!


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[REBOL] News on Mac OS X?

2004-02-03 Thread Rod Gaither

Hi All,

I'm wondering if there is any chance that we will see a
Mac OS X port of View sometime soon?  Does anyone
have any insight to share on this?  While I didn't get a
response to my last feedback on this from RT I did get
one back in April saying the release would follow a
general update to View.  I'm hoping that the 1.3 project
is that update and that it will follow it sooner rather
than later, though at this point I'm not optimistic.  Of
course I'm not sure of the timetable for the 1.3 project
itself either so soon might still be six months away!  :-(

I am both sympathetic to RT's situation and supportive
of their efforts.  However, It has been a full year since
RT put out the Support OS X press release so I feel
inclined to grumble a bit.

Thanks, Rod.

Rod Gaither
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[REBOL] Re: Proposal: REBOL Documentation indexing system for newbies

2004-02-03 Thread Jason Cunliffe

Hi Gerard

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 -- File: REBOL-Doc-Structure.html

Good work.. I need some time to absorb what you've put out.

Do you need a website to post that document to so we can read/print as html?
Let me know if it will help you to have a shell/ftp login on my server

Else is there a section at rebol.org you can use?

How about formatting it as easy-vid?

I realize content is more imprortant than anything else.
But the mediaum is also important part of the message.

- Jason

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[REBOL] [view] desktop icon dragging in view windows...

2004-02-03 Thread Maxim Olivier-Adlhoch

handling of an icon drag from the desktop to a view window possible (even if deftly 
obscure).

I don't think it is, but checking this out here might prove me wrong (like in the 
title bar thread ;-)

If it isn't possible, is it planned for 1.3 or 1.4 (at least on windows and/or linux)?



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[REBOL] Re: Telnet protocol scheme weirdness.

2004-02-03 Thread Bruno G. Albuquerque

On Tue, 3 Feb 2004 15:06:23 +0100, Gabriele Santilli 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] said:

 BGA The end result is that the above line will send #{1B4F420D0A} to 
 the
 BGA server instead of what I wanted it to (#{1B4F42}). I already 
 tried to
 BGA change the open line to:
 
 I guess it is opening the sub-port in /LINES mode.

Maybe, but I am not finding where it is actually opening it in the 
scheme code. I did try get-modes on the port and sub-port to determine 
its flags and both had binary and direct set to true.
 
 BGA port/state/flags: port/state/flags or
 BGA system/standard/port-flags/direct
 BGA or 32 or 2051; No-Wait, BINARY (51) (2048)
 BGA port/sub-port/state/flags: port/sub-port/state/flags or 2051 or 
 32
 
 BTW,  should use SET-MODES here actually, AFAIK changing the flags
 directly is deprecated.

Will change that but I don't think it will help with my problem.

Thanks!

-Bruno


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[REBOL] Re: [view] desktop icon dragging in view windows...

2004-02-03 Thread Gregg Irwin

Hi Maxim,

MOA handling of an icon drag from the desktop to a view window
MOA possible (even if deftly obscure).

Not possible at this time. RT knows about it, but hasn't committed to
it for 1.3 AFAIK.

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[REBOL] Re: News on Mac OS X?

2004-02-03 Thread Gregg Irwin

Hi Rod,

RG I'm wondering if there is any chance that we will see a
RG Mac OS X port of View sometime soon?  Does anyone
RG have any insight to share on this?

No insight here, but I imagine a lot of folks are hoping the View 1.3
project is a sign of life for it. No official word from RT on it
though. There is still work to be done on 1.3, but not 6 months worth.
:)

-- Gregg 

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[REBOL] Re: News on Mac OS X?

2004-02-03 Thread Trevor Gosbell

For what it's worth, I received this info from RT on January 21:

quote
We are currently updating View.  Once that project is complete we will begin porting 
to Mac OSX.  I regret that I can not give you a projected release date.
/quote

And I think OS X users are entitled to grumble a bit.

-Original Message-
From: Gregg Irwin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Rod Gaither [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Tue, 3 Feb 2004 14:53:26 -0700
Subject: [REBOL] Re: News on Mac OS X?


Hi Rod,

RG I'm wondering if there is any chance that we will see a
RG Mac OS X port of View sometime soon?  Does anyone
RG have any insight to share on this?

No insight here, but I imagine a lot of folks are hoping the View 1.3
project is a sign of life for it. No official word from RT on it
though. There is still work to be done on 1.3, but not 6 months worth.
:)

-- Gregg 

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[REBOL] Re: Proposal: REBOL Documentation indexing system for newbies

2004-02-03 Thread Gerard Cote

Hi Jason, Gregg and Maxim. Thank you for your specific answers,

I will request for help and accept contributions as well when it will 
be needed, later in the project. For the moment I simply want some 
ML members to read and say what they think about the content of 
the proposed indexing system - in view of helping any newbie to find 
its way amongst the vast enough already exixting REBOL documentation.

May be some parts may seem to be useless, redundant or misleading. 
For example the distinction to be done betwwen the Tools and the Library 
- since some scripts seem to fit well into both. Other items may seem to miss. 
Don't hesitate to add. But don't forget that until you I feed you with the 
future planned TOC and content of my learning tools, many items may 
leave you with the idea that not everything would be covered. 

Note also that in a far future I also plan to offer advanced learning material 
to support programmers that need this kind of material if time and need for 
this are always present. It will also be for my own learning since this could 
help to decode the inside of many advanced scripts using such concepts as 
DYNAMIC DATA STRUCTURES as used in many advanced CS text books 
and as supported in part by REBOL with its own list and block data structures.

This week i'll also work about the TOC and try to well plan the gradual 
advance needed for the learning material I want to create in addition to all 
what already exists here and elsewhere about REBOL learning. 

This should will be submitted for review and comment before I begin the 
real work about content.

For sure I will now continue my work using French since it will be easier 
and shorter to me and I will ask Maxim and/or Jason and DidierC to help 
review and translate some parts of my written work.

A last word to Jason about the the Web site and the easy-vid.r format 
conversion you offered. In fact at this time 

I suggest that we use some Web space on your server to start some 
informal showcase to display the incremental steps of the proposed TOC 
when it is revised and updated - but at end I plan to ask Rebol.org to 
display this TOC and REBOL.COM to add some pointer to it if Carl agrees to do so.

For the easy-vid.r conversion, I really don't see the urgency or even the true 
usefulness of this step at this moment since this would not be easily viewable 
with such long titles in the left column - some horizontal scroll bar is needed 
before. 
May be the titles must be shortened instead. If you want to work on this you're 
welcome. 

But a last question about the way you suggest to use it : If some reader 
downloads the TOC in easy-vid format, what will be the next step for him? 
If downloading any of the other subsequent parts is your way then this is feasible 
now but your content will have to be revised soon - so I personally wait until the 
next revision if any before doing so. 

If this can be of some help to you I can announce that I already began to hack 
the easy-vid script a bit as to let it become 2 new derived apps :

1- an easy-VID generator which when coupled with some .txt file content 
- much as the actual make-doc-pro - could automatically replace the actual 
easy-VID fixed content and leave its easy-VID coating with its display, navigation 
and execution functionalities - not as big deal but this could permit to easily create 
from a single .txt entry a dual output simply by switching from a make-doc 
generated HTML output to an easy-VID script format. 

Actually this job must be done manually. Not a difficult one but one that could be 
simplified.

This new tool would change its name as the make-easy-VID application to 
reflect its new nature when related to other make-doc family members. Some 
restrictions apply but nevertheless they bear strong likeness.

2- A new version of the current easy-VID as been created with 2 new features :
 a) a Content linking new mark-up has been added and implemented. 
 So when this mark-up is encountered in the actual Content a query 
 to start a new easy-VID copy with its own Content  is executed and 
 the new easy-VID replaces the current one. (#- Mark-up instead of =URL
   may be 
substituted but may mislead)
 b) A second mark-up to add some additional information taken from a .txt 
 file has also been added trying to simulate in some way an external URL 
link. 

 This could be used for example to display in its own window the 
additional text 
 when the BOLD ITALIC UNDERLINE line is clicked - I was not able to 
  let the anchored word inside a current paragraph for display with some 
  different STYLE than the rest and I was not able to keep it with the 
rest if some 
  independent mouse click operation was to be used. (## mark-up)

  This seems to be a