Re: [REDHAT] Re: BSD vs Linux ?

[Anthony E. Greene]

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On 17-Aug-2002/22:45 -0400, "Jonathan M. Slivko" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>This is my $0.02 cents on the subject:
>
>FreeBSD appears to handle better and is more business-centric whereas
>Red Hat, if used properly, can be the same. However, FreeBSD acts a
>little better and is more secure on a default system install, whereas
>Red Hat doesn't get such high marks, as a poster on another thread
>stated not too long ago (either yesterday or today). If you are in a
>mission critical environment, I would say FreeBSD would be a better bet
>than Red Hat (unless you absolutely know what your doing) for the newer
>people starting out in the Linux world.
>
>As a friend of mine on IRC (Internet Relay Chat) said: 
>"Black Hat == cracker; White Hat == hacker; Grey Hat == guru; Red Hat ==
>victim".

That's out of date info. A default Red Hat 7.x install does not turn
anything on and offers to setup a firewall. It's not SELinux, but it's not
like the old RH5 days either.

Tony
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RE: [REDHAT] Re: BSD vs Linux ?

[Jonathan M. Slivko]

This is my $0.02 cents on the subject:

FreeBSD appears to handle better and is more business-centric whereas
Red Hat, if used properly, can be the same. However, FreeBSD acts a
little better and is more secure on a default system install, whereas
Red Hat doesn't get such high marks, as a poster on another thread
stated not too long ago (either yesterday or today). If you are in a
mission critical environment, I would say FreeBSD would be a better bet
than Red Hat (unless you absolutely know what your doing) for the newer
people starting out in the Linux world.

As a friend of mine on IRC (Internet Relay Chat) said: 
"Black Hat == cracker; White Hat == hacker; Grey Hat == guru; Red Hat ==
victim".

However, I am not saying that everyone on this list should migrate to
FreeBSD, not at all. All I'm saying is that if you want to use it in a
mission-critical production environment, it's best to have a good grasp
on Linux and the basics of Red Hat, especially in the security arena.

Well, that's my $0.02 cents worth.

-- Jonathan


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On Behalf Of David Kramer
Sent: Saturday, August 17, 2002 10:37 PM
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Subject: Re: [REDHAT] Re: BSD vs Linux ?

On Sat, 17 Aug 2002, Jonathan Bartlett wrote:

> > Yes and no.  Linux is more in the news and popular these days, so
you
> > might find user apps coming out for linux before BSD (of course the
> > linux apps will still run on BSD), but some companies will release
drivers
> > for BSD before linux so they don't have to give away the source
code. (GPL
> > vs BSD license).
> 
> Actually, you don't have to release source code for binary-only
drivers in
> Linux.

You have to release the source code if you release under GPL, and if you

don't release under GPL it's not ending up on disk 1 of the Red Hat 
distro. AFAIK, everything on disk 1 has to be open source.  Forgot why 
though.




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Re: [REDHAT] Re: BSD vs Linux ?

[David Kramer]

On Sat, 17 Aug 2002, Jonathan Bartlett wrote:

> > Yes and no.  Linux is more in the news and popular these days, so you
> > might find user apps coming out for linux before BSD (of course the
> > linux apps will still run on BSD), but some companies will release drivers
> > for BSD before linux so they don't have to give away the source code. (GPL
> > vs BSD license).
> 
> Actually, you don't have to release source code for binary-only drivers in
> Linux.

You have to release the source code if you release under GPL, and if you 
don't release under GPL it's not ending up on disk 1 of the Red Hat 
distro. AFAIK, everything on disk 1 has to be open source.  Forgot why 
though.



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Re: [REDHAT] Re: BSD vs Linux ?

[David Kramer]

On Fri, 16 Aug 2002, Anthony E. Greene wrote:

> The GPL helps to ensure that improvements are shared. The BSD License
> makes it easier for improvements to be kept hidden. Many more people are
> willing to share if they can be sure that the sharing goes both ways.

OTOH, some companies will release binary drivers under a BSD license to 
protect their proprietary API and not the source code under Linux.  Some 
would rather have a binary driver than none at all.


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