Re: help

[Ross Cooney -- Cyber Sentry Ltd]

> RE: help

What do you need help for?

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Re: Help! Basic Linux Introduction?

[Jonathan Bartlett]

You might check out the stuff at http://rute.sf.net/ - it's not RH
specific, but you might find some good stuff in there.  That's what we use
for new Linux training.

Jon

On Tue, 21 Oct 2003, Benjamin J. Weiss wrote:

> All,
>
> I just got tasked with providing (by this afternoon!) a short primer on
> linux, preferably RH 9.  I need something that a group of MIS Windows folks
> can read in two evenings, such that I can then sit them down in front of RH
> 9 boxes and show them how to administer the basics.
>
> I've found the RH 9 manuals on their site, and if I have to I will resort to
> printing off various sections of them and putting them together, but I was
> hoping for something a bit more coherent.  Basically, it should cover the
> basic concepts and such.
>
> I'm also looking at tldp.org.
>
> Anybody have something like this laying around?
>
> Thanks!
>
> Ben
>
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Re: Help! Basic Linux Introduction?

[Jason Dixon]

On Tue, 2003-10-21 at 12:23, Benjamin J. Weiss wrote:
> All,
> 
> I just got tasked with providing (by this afternoon!) a short primer on
> linux, preferably RH 9.  I need something that a group of MIS Windows folks
> can read in two evenings, such that I can then sit them down in front of RH
> 9 boxes and show them how to administer the basics.
> 
> I've found the RH 9 manuals on their site, and if I have to I will resort to
> printing off various sections of them and putting them together, but I was
> hoping for something a bit more coherent.  Basically, it should cover the
> basic concepts and such.
> 
> I'm also looking at tldp.org.
> 
> Anybody have something like this laying around?

Honestly, for the task you have ahead of you, I can't imagine anything
more basic and to-the-point than Red Hat's documentation.  So far as
administering Red Hat Linux systems goes, it can't be beat.

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RE: HELP !!! raid 5 problem

[Simpson, Doug]

thanks to all for the info.
I am backup and working after rebuilding - now I am looking for a way to
monitor my array.
I have looked at raidmon - does this monitor hardware?
Is there a specific monitor for my specific controller - "Compaq smart array
431 (chipset - sym53c896)
Thanks,
Doug

-Original Message-
From: Dominic RIVERA [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2003 3:02 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: HELP !!! raid 5 problem


You should be able to hotswap the drive and then verify integrity before
the system goes down. 

Obviously in some cases you won't be able to like when the drive fails
when the system is powered down. Sometimes it is possible to reconstruct
a raid-5 array that has, but I'd be very careful fomr this point on out,
you're in some seriously dangerous territory.

One problem you *might* be running into that you may be able to fix is
if you're manually assigning scsi id's to the drives. Linux assigns
device names based on the order that they are found, so if you put in a
new disk in a different place, or if your new drive was discovered in a
different order then your array might be trying to reconstruct itself
wrong. 

Your comment about ls not working makes me think you had more than just
a single driver error.

Were you booting off of a raid5 array? You shouldn't be able to put your
/boot partition on (software) raid5 as far as I know. 

What drive was it that failed, your boot drive? Did you install
lilo/grub onto multiple disks?

Any more information about your config could be helpful.

-Dominic

Dominic Rivera
(503) 947-7308
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 10/14/03 12:32 PM >>>
Simpson, Doug wrote:

>I have a compaq proliant ml 350 that is running RH 7.0.  It is RAIDed
to 5,
>however, one of the 4 drives crashed yesterday. We hot swapped the old
for a
>new.  Rebooted and crossed our figures.  The LILO screen comes up and
then
>flashes into a text screen saying "LOADING LINUX ...".  It does this
about 5
>or 6 times and then stops on the "LOADING LINUX ." screen.
>We cannot access the machine.
>We can see the drives flashing and it looks like the one drive is
fgoing
>through the rebuilding process.
>With a 4 drive RAID5 we should still be able to get in - no?
>Yesterday when the drive crashed the machine was not very usable - ie.
could
>not run "ls" or "find".
>This is a bit strange for a RAID5 setup.
>Compaq/hp has told us to wait 20 minutes a gig for the rebuild - 6
hours.
>We are wondering if this six hours will be wasted time.
>Has anyone seen this behavior before?
>Any thoughts would be much appreciated.
>We think the boot sector is corrupt and that is why it will not boot. 
So we
>are waitning fo rhte stripping to finish and then fix teh boot sector.
>
>Anyone?
>
>Thanks,
>Doug
>
>
>  
>
Well, the RAID set is not working then. The whole purpose of RAID is to 
avoid data loss. If 1 drive out of 5 is lost, the RAID set can still 
reconstruct the missing data using parity information, however, you will

suffer a large performance loss for this. The rebuild process should 
have no affect on the integrity of the raid set, just a performance hit.

Something is either configured wrong or faulty.

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Re: HELP !!! raid 5 problem

[Joe Polk]

I assume he is using HW RAID. In which case, Linux wouldn't "see" the 
physical drives per se'. It sounds like something went wrong before all this 
happened (ie ls not working etc). I'd wait the 6hrs as you have little 
choice. Once you get a good volume, you can move on. It sound ugly, though. 
Sorry, not much more help.

<>

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From: "Dominic RIVERA" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tue, 14 Oct 2003 13:01:51 -0700
Subject: Re: HELP !!! raid 5 problem

> You should be able to hotswap the drive and then verify integrity before
> the system goes down. 
> 
> Obviously in some cases you won't be able to like when the drive 
> fails when the system is powered down. Sometimes it is possible to 
reconstruct
> a raid-5 array that has, but I'd be very careful fomr this point on 
> out, you're in some seriously dangerous territory.
> 
> One problem you *might* be running into that you may be able to fix 
> is if you're manually assigning scsi id's to the drives. Linux 
> assigns device names based on the order that they are found, so if 
> you put in a new disk in a different place, or if your new drive was 
> discovered in a different order then your array might be trying to 
> reconstruct itself wrong. 
> 
> Your comment about ls not working makes me think you had more than just
> a single driver error.
> 
> Were you booting off of a raid5 array? You shouldn't be able to put your
> /boot partition on (software) raid5 as far as I know. 
> 
> What drive was it that failed, your boot drive? Did you install
> lilo/grub onto multiple disks?
> 
> Any more information about your config could be helpful.
> 
> -Dominic
> 
> Dominic Rivera
> (503) 947-7308
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 10/14/03 12:32 PM >>>
> Simpson, Doug wrote:
> 
> >I have a compaq proliant ml 350 that is running RH 7.0.  It is RAIDed
> to 5,
> >however, one of the 4 drives crashed yesterday. We hot swapped the old
> for a
> >new.  Rebooted and crossed our figures.  The LILO screen comes up and
> then
> >flashes into a text screen saying "LOADING LINUX ...".  It does this
> about 5
> >or 6 times and then stops on the "LOADING LINUX ." screen.
> >We cannot access the machine.
> >We can see the drives flashing and it looks like the one drive is
> fgoing
> >through the rebuilding process.
> >With a 4 drive RAID5 we should still be able to get in - no?
> >Yesterday when the drive crashed the machine was not very usable - ie.
> could
> >not run "ls" or "find".
> >This is a bit strange for a RAID5 setup.
> >Compaq/hp has told us to wait 20 minutes a gig for the rebuild - 6
> hours.
> >We are wondering if this six hours will be wasted time.
> >Has anyone seen this behavior before?
> >Any thoughts would be much appreciated.
> >We think the boot sector is corrupt and that is why it will not boot. 
> So we
> >are waitning fo rhte stripping to finish and then fix teh boot sector.
> >
> >Anyone?
> >
> >Thanks,
> >Doug
> >
> >
> >  
> >
> Well, the RAID set is not working then. The whole purpose of RAID is 
> to avoid data loss. If 1 drive out of 5 is lost, the RAID set can 
> still reconstruct the missing data using parity information, however,
>  you will
> 
> suffer a large performance loss for this. The rebuild process should 
> have no affect on the integrity of the raid set, just a performance hit.
> 
> Something is either configured wrong or faulty.
> 
> -CC
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Re: HELP !!! raid 5 problem

[Dominic RIVERA]

You should be able to hotswap the drive and then verify integrity before
the system goes down. 

Obviously in some cases you won't be able to like when the drive fails
when the system is powered down. Sometimes it is possible to reconstruct
a raid-5 array that has, but I'd be very careful fomr this point on out,
you're in some seriously dangerous territory.

One problem you *might* be running into that you may be able to fix is
if you're manually assigning scsi id's to the drives. Linux assigns
device names based on the order that they are found, so if you put in a
new disk in a different place, or if your new drive was discovered in a
different order then your array might be trying to reconstruct itself
wrong. 

Your comment about ls not working makes me think you had more than just
a single driver error.

Were you booting off of a raid5 array? You shouldn't be able to put your
/boot partition on (software) raid5 as far as I know. 

What drive was it that failed, your boot drive? Did you install
lilo/grub onto multiple disks?

Any more information about your config could be helpful.

-Dominic

Dominic Rivera
(503) 947-7308
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 10/14/03 12:32 PM >>>
Simpson, Doug wrote:

>I have a compaq proliant ml 350 that is running RH 7.0.  It is RAIDed
to 5,
>however, one of the 4 drives crashed yesterday. We hot swapped the old
for a
>new.  Rebooted and crossed our figures.  The LILO screen comes up and
then
>flashes into a text screen saying "LOADING LINUX ...".  It does this
about 5
>or 6 times and then stops on the "LOADING LINUX ." screen.
>We cannot access the machine.
>We can see the drives flashing and it looks like the one drive is
fgoing
>through the rebuilding process.
>With a 4 drive RAID5 we should still be able to get in - no?
>Yesterday when the drive crashed the machine was not very usable - ie.
could
>not run "ls" or "find".
>This is a bit strange for a RAID5 setup.
>Compaq/hp has told us to wait 20 minutes a gig for the rebuild - 6
hours.
>We are wondering if this six hours will be wasted time.
>Has anyone seen this behavior before?
>Any thoughts would be much appreciated.
>We think the boot sector is corrupt and that is why it will not boot. 
So we
>are waitning fo rhte stripping to finish and then fix teh boot sector.
>
>Anyone?
>
>Thanks,
>Doug
>
>
>  
>
Well, the RAID set is not working then. The whole purpose of RAID is to 
avoid data loss. If 1 drive out of 5 is lost, the RAID set can still 
reconstruct the missing data using parity information, however, you will

suffer a large performance loss for this. The rebuild process should 
have no affect on the integrity of the raid set, just a performance hit.

Something is either configured wrong or faulty.

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Re: HELP !!! raid 5 problem

[Rhugga]

Simpson, Doug wrote:

I have a compaq proliant ml 350 that is running RH 7.0.  It is RAIDed to 5,
however, one of the 4 drives crashed yesterday. We hot swapped the old for a
new.  Rebooted and crossed our figures.  The LILO screen comes up and then
flashes into a text screen saying "LOADING LINUX ...".  It does this about 5
or 6 times and then stops on the "LOADING LINUX ." screen.
We cannot access the machine.
We can see the drives flashing and it looks like the one drive is fgoing
through the rebuilding process.
With a 4 drive RAID5 we should still be able to get in - no?
Yesterday when the drive crashed the machine was not very usable - ie. could
not run "ls" or "find".
This is a bit strange for a RAID5 setup.
Compaq/hp has told us to wait 20 minutes a gig for the rebuild - 6 hours.
We are wondering if this six hours will be wasted time.
Has anyone seen this behavior before?
Any thoughts would be much appreciated.
We think the boot sector is corrupt and that is why it will not boot.  So we
are waitning fo rhte stripping to finish and then fix teh boot sector.
Anyone?

Thanks,
Doug
 

Well, the RAID set is not working then. The whole purpose of RAID is to 
avoid data loss. If 1 drive out of 5 is lost, the RAID set can still 
reconstruct the missing data using parity information, however, you will 
suffer a large performance loss for this. The rebuild process should 
have no affect on the integrity of the raid set, just a performance hit. 
Something is either configured wrong or faulty.

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Re: help with quotas!!!

[Janyne Kizer]

I believe "quotacheck -avcugm" should generate the /home/aquota.usr and 
/home/aquota.group files

On 10/14/2003 11:19 AM, root wrote:
Hello friends!
I'm trying quotas on my /home partition.
These are the steps i've followed that finished with an error: cannot
find the quota files on /dev/hdb6 (the partition where is /home).
Steps:
1. modified /etc/fstab as follow
/LABEL=/home/home   ext3defaults,usrquota,grpquota  1 2
I reboot the system and i receive  a message of failed for the quota
system.
2.the following step would be to create as table of usage disk per
filesystem with the quotacheck  command. just execute quotacheck.
I just followed the steps of RedHat customization guide, but failed.
Could anyone give me a hand? May be another step i should do between and
not commented in this guide?
Thank you all



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Re: Help I'm brain dead (Port Mapping)

[Chris Wilson]

Never mind I found the problem. Somehow my /sbin/iptable command became
a zero length file.  :(

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On Mon, 2003-10-13 at 13:08, Chris Wilson wrote:
> I am running a web server on port  which is working. I want that web
> server to appear to be running on port 80 so I run the following command
> as root:
> /sbin/iptables -t nat -A PREROUTING -p tcp --dport 80 -j REDIRECT
> --to-port 
> 
> I know this worked in the past but currently it seems to be failing. I
> get no errors and if I do iptables -L I get not output at all.
> 
> If it "telnet localhost " I get a good connect if I "telnet
> localhost 80" I get nothing.
> 
> netstat -an report: tcp 0 0 0.0.0.0: 0.0.0.0:* LISTEN
> 
> Any ideas on how to debug this problem?
> 
> incase it matters my /etc/sysconfig/iptables contains:
> *filter
> :INPUT ACCEPT [0:0]
> :FORWARD ACCEPT [0:0]
> :OUTPUT ACCEPT [0:0]
> :RH-Lokkit-0-50-INPUT - [0:0]
> -A INPUT -j RH-Lokkit-0-50-INPUT
> -A FORWARD -j RH-Lokkit-0-50-INPUT
> -A RH-Lokkit-0-50-INPUT -i lo -j ACCEPT
> -A RH-Lokkit-0-50-INPUT -i eth0 -j ACCEPT
> -A RH-Lokkit-0-50-INPUT -p tcp -m tcp --dport 0:1023 --syn -j REJECT
> -A RH-Lokkit-0-50-INPUT -p tcp -m tcp --dport 2049 --syn -j REJECT
> -A RH-Lokkit-0-50-INPUT -p udp -m udp --dport 0:1023 -j REJECT
> -A RH-Lokkit-0-50-INPUT -p udp -m udp --dport 2049 -j REJECT
> -A RH-Lokkit-0-50-INPUT -p tcp -m tcp --dport 6000:6009 --syn -j REJECT
> -A RH-Lokkit-0-50-INPUT -p tcp -m tcp --dport 7100 --syn -j REJECT
> COMMIT
> 
> 
> Thanks in advance,
> -- Chris
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Re: help in kernel compiling

[David Hart]

On Wed, 2003-10-08 at 04:50, Nabin Limbu wrote:
> Hi Sean,
> 
> I have repeated the process and the problem still remained same.
> 
> My config file also consists CONFIG_BINFMT_ELF=y as you said.
> 
> Is my process of compiling kernel correct? Or is there any change in 
> RH9?
> 
> Nabin Limbu
> 
Use "make install" rather than doing it manually.
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Re: help in kernel compiling

[Nabin Limbu]

Hi Sean,

I have repeated the process and the problem still remained same.

My config file also consists CONFIG_BINFMT_ELF=y as you said.

Is my process of compiling kernel correct? Or is there any change in 
RH9?

Nabin Limbu

On 25 Sep 2003 at 10:18, Sean Estabrooks wrote:
> Hi Nabin,
> 
> Make sure compiled in :
> 
> Kernel support for ELF binaries
> 
> under the General Setup option of menuconfig.
> which will add the following line to your .config:
> 
> CONFIG_BINFMT_ELF=y
> 
> That might be all that's wrong,
> Sean
> 
> 
> 
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> On Thu, 25 Sep 2003 19:58:11 +0530
> "Nabin Limbu" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > Hi all,
> > 
> > I have upgraded my kernel to 2.4.20-20.9 via up2date with no 
problem
> > in RH 9.  In this new kernel, I wanted to enable a cyclades card 
in
> > kernel for which I complied this kernel as below:- - make 
menuconfig
> > - enabled Cyclades card in the menu - make dep; make clean - make
> > bzImage - make modules - make modules_install - cp 
> > /usr/src/linux.x.x./arch/i386/boot/bzimage  /boot/ - Edit
> > /etc/grub.conf - Replaced /boot/vmlinuz-2.4.20-20.9 with
> > /boot/bzImage - Rebooted
> > 
> > While trying to boot with this new kernel, I got following 
message:
> > 
> > root (hd0,0)
> > Filesystem type is ext2fs, partition type 0x83
> > kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.4.20-20.9 ro root=LABEL=/
> > 
> > Error 13: Invalid or unsupported executable format
> > 
> > Press any key to continue
> > 
> > What might be the problem? How can I solve it? Please help.
> 


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Re: help in kernel compiling

[Sean Estabrooks]

On Thu, 25 Sep 2003 19:58:11 +0530
"Nabin Limbu" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Hi all,
> 
> I have upgraded my kernel to 2.4.20-20.9 via up2date with no problem 
> in RH 9.  In this new kernel, I wanted to enable a cyclades card in 
> kernel for which I complied this kernel as below:-
> - make menuconfig
> - enabled Cyclades card in the menu
> - make dep; make clean
> - make bzImage
> - make modules
> - make modules_install
> - cp  /usr/src/linux.x.x./arch/i386/boot/bzimage  /boot/
> - Edit /etc/grub.conf
> - Replaced /boot/vmlinuz-2.4.20-20.9 with /boot/bzImage
> - Rebooted
> 
> While trying to boot with this new kernel, I got following message:
> 
> root (hd0,0)
> Filesystem type is ext2fs, partition type 0x83
> kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.4.20-20.9 ro root=LABEL=/
> 
> Error 13: Invalid or unsupported executable format
> 
> Press any key to continue
> 
> What might be the problem? How can I solve it? Please help.
 
Hi Nabin,

Make sure compiled in :

Kernel support for ELF binaries

under the General Setup option of menuconfig.
which will add the following line to your .config:

CONFIG_BINFMT_ELF=y

That might be all that's wrong,
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Re: help!!!! can not start my server, big trouble

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> boot from a cdrom and fsck all your filesystems is the easiest way.
>
> -Chuck

Assuming he can fsck in the first place. I had a similar problem with 
7.2 a couple of months ago (what prompted me to upgrade to 9.0) and 
nothing I tried to do did anygood. fsck would fail. Everything failed. 
I lost approx 40GB of music that took me years to collect (I didn't 
always have a cable modem)

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Re: help!!!! can not start my server, big trouble

[Rhugga]

Jianping Zhu wrote:

have redhat linux 7.1 i am now having big trouble (my boss need to use
it tomorrow
I get following eorror msg in the start up process

   initailizing usb contoller [Ok]
check root file system
/Contain a file sytem with errors check forced
 unattched node 369319
/Unexpected inconstency fsck failed manually
(i.e without -a or -p option)
** an error occured during file system check
** drop you to shell
 when you leave shell
 give root passwd for maintenence
(or type ctr-d for normal start
 up):
how can i fix this problem
 any suggestion will be
appreciated!!!
J.P.

	  

 

boot from a cdrom and fsck all your filesystems is the easiest way.

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Re: help!!!! can not start my server, big trouble

[Tiago Ferraz Machado - estagiario]

Hi,

Just log on as root and type

fsck /

or 

fsck -A 

to check all your devices...

This error occurred because you haven`t turned off the system properly or 
because your hard disk is not 100% perfect.

This command also will ask if you want to correct some i-nodes. I suggest 
your answer yes to all of them or add a -a to the command to assume `yes` 
as default.


[]`s

Tiago

On Mon, 15 Sep 2003, Jianping Zhu wrote:

>  have redhat linux 7.1 i am now having big trouble (my boss need to use
>  it tomorrow
> 
>  I get following eorror msg in the start up process
> 
> initailizing usb contoller [Ok]
>  check root file system
>  /Contain a file sytem with errors check forced
>   unattched node 369319
> 
>  /Unexpected inconstency fsck failed manually
>  (i.e without -a or -p option)
> 
>  ** an error occured during file system check
>  ** drop you to shell
>   when you leave shell
>   give root passwd for maintenence
> 
>  (or type ctr-d for normal start
>up):
> 
> 
>  how can i fix this problem
>any suggestion will be
>   appreciated!!!
> 
>  J.P.
> 
> 
> 
> 
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Re: help!!!! can not start my server, big trouble

[Rus Foster]

On Mon, 15 Sep 2003, Jianping Zhu wrote:

>  have redhat linux 7.1 i am now having big trouble (my boss need to use
>  it tomorrow
>
>  I get following eorror msg in the start up process
>
> initailizing usb contoller [Ok]
>  check root file system
>  /Contain a file sytem with errors check forced
>   unattched node 369319
>
>  /Unexpected inconstency fsck failed manually
>  (i.e without -a or -p option)
>
>  ** an error occured during file system check
>  ** drop you to shell
>   when you leave shell
>   give root passwd for maintenence
>
>  (or type ctr-d for normal start
>up):

Type in the root password

run "fsck /"

Drop me a list off line if you want more help
Rgds

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Re: help with partitioning

[Samuel Flory]

Chris W. Parker wrote:
Samuel Flory 
on Saturday, September 13, 2003 11:47 AM said:

 You need to create a partition that will be a part of the raid array
on each disk.  So the followiing is what I do:


Yes, I finally figured this out. So far the computer is working
excellently. It's much faster than our email gateway (my first linux
box). :)
Thanks for your help,
Chris.
p.s. I still have plenty of time to reinstall and repartition if
necessary. I'd appreciate it if you would comment on the way I've setup
the partitions. Here is the output of df -ah:
FilesystemSize  Used Avail Use% Mounted on
/dev/md1  4.0G  136M  3.7G   4% /
none 0 0 0   -  /proc
usbdevfs 0 0 0   -  /proc/bus/usb
/dev/md0   99M  9.2M   85M  10% /boot
none 0 0 0   -  /dev/pts
/dev/md4   21G   33M   20G   1% /home
none  188M 0  188M   0% /dev/shm
/dev/md2  7.9G  746M  6.8G  10% /usr


  This doesn't look good for the type of use you are planning.  This is 
a web server and logging

1)  Is /usr going to grow that much?  You've got less a 1G of used space 
now.

2)  You have only 4G in / which also contains /var.  /var is where Red 
Hat keeps logs, web pages, and the like.

3)You have 21G in /home.  What is going to use that space?

My advice for what it's worth.

/boot   ~100M
/   ~4G
swap~2 x ram
/vareverything else
Now once you've finished installing link /home, /opt, and /usr/local to 
/var.  These are the only places that are likely to grow in size over 
time. / and /usr will grow if you upgrade, but you still have 3G of 
space to grow into.

mv /home /var/home
mkdir /var/opt
mkdir /var/usr
mv /usr/local /var/usr
cd /
ln -sfi var/home home
ln -sfi var/opt opt
cd /usr
ln -sfi ../var/usr/local local
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RE: help with partitioning

[Chris W. Parker]

Samuel Flory 
on Saturday, September 13, 2003 11:47 AM said:

>   You need to create a partition that will be a part of the raid array
> on each disk.  So the followiing is what I do:

Yes, I finally figured this out. So far the computer is working
excellently. It's much faster than our email gateway (my first linux
box). :)


Thanks for your help,
Chris.

p.s. I still have plenty of time to reinstall and repartition if
necessary. I'd appreciate it if you would comment on the way I've setup
the partitions. Here is the output of df -ah:

FilesystemSize  Used Avail Use% Mounted on
/dev/md1  4.0G  136M  3.7G   4% /
none 0 0 0   -  /proc
usbdevfs 0 0 0   -  /proc/bus/usb
/dev/md0   99M  9.2M   85M  10% /boot
none 0 0 0   -  /dev/pts
/dev/md4   21G   33M   20G   1% /home
none  188M 0  188M   0% /dev/shm
/dev/md2  7.9G  746M  6.8G  10% /usr


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Re: help with partitioning

[George Nicholls]

The redhat manuals (rh9) are quite good; I got my RAID5 working with
their help first time. You can read them online or download the rpms
from redhat.com

HTH

G

On Sat, 2003-09-13 at 20:47, Samuel Flory wrote:
> Chris W. Parker wrote:
> 
> >Samuel Flory 
> >on Friday, September 12, 2003 5:38 PM said:
> >
> >Ok I'm convinced, I'll use RAID.
> >
> >I found this page
> >http://www.redhat.com/docs/manuals/linux/RHL-9-Manual/custom-guide/ch-so
> >ftware-raid.html which you'd think would be the perfect set of
> >instructions. BUT IT'S NOT!!
> >  
> >
> 
>The raid instruction are a little vague.
> 
> >I'm trying to follow Samuel's original instructions:
> >
> >-=-=-=-
> >   Use software raid 5 on each disk:
> >raid 1 /boot  (~100M) Raid 1 as you can't boot off of raid 5!!!
> >raid 5 swap
> >raid 5 /  (~2G)
> >raid 5 /var (Most of the rest of your space, for your logs and /var/www)
> >-=-=-=-
> >
> >(Following the steps in the above document) Step 5 says "For Allowable
> >Drives, select the drive(s) on which RAID will be created. If you have
> >multiple drives, all drives will be selected here and you must deselect
> >those drives which will not have the RAID array on them."
> >
> >But if I select more than one drive I get the message "Partitions of
> >type 'software RAID' must be constrained to a single drive. This is done
> >by selecting the drive in the 'Allowable Drives' checklist."
> >
> >Ok, So what's the deal with that? How can you have RAID if you're forced
> >to only use one disk? I don't get it!!
> >  
> >
> 
>   You need to create a partition that will be a part of the raid array 
> on each disk.  So the followiing is what I do:
> 
> Create a partition of type raid on disk 1 ~100M via the new partition button
> Create a raid partition of type raid on disk 2 ~100M via the new 
> partition button
> Create a raid partition of type raid on disk 3 ~100M via the new 
> partition button
> Create the raid array  using the above 3 disks using the raid buton
> Repeat for all arrays
> 
>   I've always thought Red Hat's method was a little strange;-)  Why not 
> let me create multiple partitions on each disk in one stoke.
> 
> >
> >AAHH!!
> >
> >
> >Chris.
> >
> >
> >  
> >
> 
> 


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Re: help with partitioning

[Samuel Flory]

Chris W. Parker wrote:

Samuel Flory 
   on Friday, September 12, 2003 5:38 PM said:
Ok I'm convinced, I'll use RAID.

I found this page
http://www.redhat.com/docs/manuals/linux/RHL-9-Manual/custom-guide/ch-so
ftware-raid.html which you'd think would be the perfect set of
instructions. BUT IT'S NOT!!
 

  The raid instruction are a little vague.

I'm trying to follow Samuel's original instructions:

-=-=-=-
  Use software raid 5 on each disk:
raid 1 /boot  (~100M) Raid 1 as you can't boot off of raid 5!!!
raid 5 swap
raid 5 /  (~2G)
raid 5 /var (Most of the rest of your space, for your logs and /var/www)
-=-=-=-
(Following the steps in the above document) Step 5 says "For Allowable
Drives, select the drive(s) on which RAID will be created. If you have
multiple drives, all drives will be selected here and you must deselect
those drives which will not have the RAID array on them."
But if I select more than one drive I get the message "Partitions of
type 'software RAID' must be constrained to a single drive. This is done
by selecting the drive in the 'Allowable Drives' checklist."
Ok, So what's the deal with that? How can you have RAID if you're forced
to only use one disk? I don't get it!!
 

 You need to create a partition that will be a part of the raid array 
on each disk.  So the followiing is what I do:

Create a partition of type raid on disk 1 ~100M via the new partition button
Create a raid partition of type raid on disk 2 ~100M via the new 
partition button
Create a raid partition of type raid on disk 3 ~100M via the new 
partition button
Create the raid array  using the above 3 disks using the raid buton
Repeat for all arrays

 I've always thought Red Hat's method was a little strange;-)  Why not 
let me create multiple partitions on each disk in one stoke.

AAHH!!

Chris.

 



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RE: help with partitioning

[Chris W. Parker]

Samuel Flory 
on Friday, September 12, 2003 5:38 PM said:

Ok I'm convinced, I'll use RAID.

I found this page
http://www.redhat.com/docs/manuals/linux/RHL-9-Manual/custom-guide/ch-so
ftware-raid.html which you'd think would be the perfect set of
instructions. BUT IT'S NOT!!

I'm trying to follow Samuel's original instructions:

-=-=-=-
   Use software raid 5 on each disk:
raid 1 /boot  (~100M) Raid 1 as you can't boot off of raid 5!!!
raid 5 swap
raid 5 /  (~2G)
raid 5 /var (Most of the rest of your space, for your logs and /var/www)
-=-=-=-

(Following the steps in the above document) Step 5 says "For Allowable
Drives, select the drive(s) on which RAID will be created. If you have
multiple drives, all drives will be selected here and you must deselect
those drives which will not have the RAID array on them."

But if I select more than one drive I get the message "Partitions of
type 'software RAID' must be constrained to a single drive. This is done
by selecting the drive in the 'Allowable Drives' checklist."

Ok, So what's the deal with that? How can you have RAID if you're forced
to only use one disk? I don't get it!!


AAHH!!


Chris.


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RE: help with partitioning

[Jason Dixon]

On Fri, 2003-09-12 at 20:37, Chris W. Parker wrote:
> Jason Dixon 
> on Friday, September 12, 2003 5:27 PM said:
> 
> > No, but why not?  Honestly, you haven't been very descriptive, except
> > to say "help with partitioning".  What are your priorities- 
> > stability, recoverability, tons of webserving storage, logfiles, what?
> 
> Sorry, only because I'm not sure what else to tell you.
> 
> It's going to do the following:
> 
> * Host two (possibly three) websites with low to medium traffic each
> * MySQL
> * Monitor itself utilizing MRTG
> * Run reports on itself with Webalizer
> * Use syslog to capture our hardware firewall logs (right now my other
> linux server does that and it's running out of space on it's small HD).
> * Send mail from within PHP
> 
> That's all I can think of really. And it's not going to use a GUI. Does
> that help?

Sure, it tells me Samuel was on target.  You're going to be very heavy
on /var.  If this server will be responsible for revenue, you'd be smart
to use RAID.

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Re: help with partitioning

[Samuel Flory]

Chris W. Parker wrote:
Samuel Flory 
on Friday, September 12, 2003 5:08 PM said:

  Use software raid 5 on each disk:


Will this degrade the performance much? 
   This will increase performance of reads a lot, and degrades write 
performance a little.  As this is a web server you will be doing almost 
entirely reads.

I've read that software RAID is
quite a bit slower than hardware RAID.


  The reverse is true in every benchmark I've run.  This is because the 
cpu in your system is easily a x1000 faster than that of a raid 
controller.  In addition raid 5's cpu overhead occurs durning write not 
reads.  (Unless you've lost a drive.)

Also, do I have to use RAID at all? 
  No, but you asked "How can I best take advantage of the three drives".

http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Software-RAID-HOWTO-2.html

Can I not just use each drive
separately? (Only asking because I don't know any better. ;) )
  Sure put / on one drive, /var on another, and swap on the 3rd.

  Or split swap up evenly on all drives, and figure some complex scheme 
of partitions, and mount to give you use of the the space on





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RE: help with partitioning

[Chris W. Parker]

Jason Dixon 
on Friday, September 12, 2003 5:27 PM said:

> No, but why not?  Honestly, you haven't been very descriptive, except
> to say "help with partitioning".  What are your priorities- 
> stability, recoverability, tons of webserving storage, logfiles, what?

Sorry, only because I'm not sure what else to tell you.

It's going to do the following:

* Host two (possibly three) websites with low to medium traffic each
* MySQL
* Monitor itself utilizing MRTG
* Run reports on itself with Webalizer
* Use syslog to capture our hardware firewall logs (right now my other
linux server does that and it's running out of space on it's small HD).
* Send mail from within PHP

That's all I can think of really. And it's not going to use a GUI. Does
that help?



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RE: help with partitioning

[Jason Dixon]

On Fri, 2003-09-12 at 20:20, Chris W. Parker wrote:
> Samuel Flory 
> on Friday, September 12, 2003 5:08 PM said:
> 
> >Use software raid 5 on each disk:
> 
> Will this degrade the performance much? I've read that software RAID is
> quite a bit slower than hardware RAID.

Quite a bit?  That's subjective.  Some folks swear by hardware RAID, but
the price/performance ratio is very good with software RAID. 
Particularly if you're using a modern server with the extra *umph* to
handle it.

> Also, do I have to use RAID at all? Can I not just use each drive
> separately? (Only asking because I don't know any better. ;) )

No, but why not?  Honestly, you haven't been very descriptive, except to
say "help with partitioning".  What are your priorities-  stability,
recoverability, tons of webserving storage, logfiles, what?

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RE: help with partitioning

[Chris W. Parker]

Samuel Flory 
on Friday, September 12, 2003 5:08 PM said:

>Use software raid 5 on each disk:

Will this degrade the performance much? I've read that software RAID is
quite a bit slower than hardware RAID.

Also, do I have to use RAID at all? Can I not just use each drive
separately? (Only asking because I don't know any better. ;) )



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Re: help with partitioning

[Samuel Flory]

Chris W. Parker wrote:
Hey people.

I've got a new computer with 3 scsi drives at 17gb each. This machine is
going to be used as a web server. I've only done one other install
(tried twice on same machine) and it had only one HD and a much much
smaller one at that, so this seems to be a different ball game.
How can I best take advantage of the three drives?

Thanks,
Chris.
p.s. Installing RH9.


  Use software raid 5 on each disk:
raid 1 /boot  (~100M) Raid 1 as you can't boot off of raid 5!!!
raid 5 swap
raid 5 /  (~2G)
raid 5 /var (Most of the rest of your space, for your logs and /var/www)
  Be sure to use the lilo as grub will not be installed to all all of 
your drives, and if you lose the 1st drive you can't boot!!!

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Re: Help - Can't boot RH Linux 9 to Single user mode!

[Reuben D. Budiardja]

On Thursday 11 September 2003 08:02 pm, TOM DOLCE wrote:
> I'm trying to boot to single-user mode to reset the root password.  I
> entered "e" on boot up to edit the kernel line in Grub and added "single'
> to the end of it, then "b" to boot into single user mode. However, instead
> of going to single user mode the system says:
>
> Enter root password to do maintenance or Control-D to continue
>
> So, since I don't know the root password (which is a whole other story)
> I enter Control-D and it boots normally to multi-user mode.  Is there some
> way around this or another way to reset the root password?

use the Redhat CD disk 1. On prompt, type Linux Rescue.

RDB

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Re: Help - Can't boot RH Linux 9 to Single user mode!

[Sean Estabrooks]

On Thu, 11 Sep 2003 17:02:53 -0700
"TOM DOLCE" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I'm trying to boot to single-user mode to reset the root password.  I entered "e" on 
> boot up to edit the kernel line in Grub and added "single' to the end of it, then 
> "b" to boot into single user mode. However, instead of going to single user mode the 
> system says:
>  
> Enter root password to do maintenance or Control-D to continue
>  
> So, since I don't know the root password (which is a whole other story)
> I enter Control-D and it boots normally to multi-user mode.  Is there some
> way around this or another way to reset the root password?
>  

Hey Tom,

You're really close, instead of single add a capital "S" at the end of the line
before booting.

Cheers,
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Re: Help - Can't boot RH Linux 9 to Single user mode!

[Rick Warner]

On Thu, 2003-09-11 at 17:02, TOM DOLCE wrote:
> I'm trying to boot to single-user mode to reset the root password.  I entered "e" on 
> boot up to edit the kernel line in Grub and added "single' to the end of it, then 
> "b" to boot into single user mode. However, instead of going to single user mode the 
> system says:
>  
> Enter root password to do maintenance or Control-D to continue
>  
> So, since I don't know the root password (which is a whole other story)
> I enter Control-D and it boots normally to multi-user mode.  Is there some
> way around this or another way to reset the root password?
>  
> Tom
>  

Grab the installation CD set.  Put Disc 1 in the CD drive and boot 
off that.  When given the  option go into rescue mode.   Follow the
directions, and set yourself up in the chroot'ed rescue environment. 
Here you will be in a shell with root access to your system sans login
prompt.  Change the root passwd.  Exit twice to reboot.  

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Re: Help setting up Apache (and mailman)

[Keith Morse]

On Fri, 29 Aug 2003, Jason Williams wrote:

> Hello...
> 
> Im pretty new to Apache and im trying to setup mailman to work with apache...
> 
> My system is:
> 
> RH 8.0
> Apache 2.x
> 
> The mailman files are located in /usr/local/mailman
> 
> I thought I was setting it up right, but its not working: I added the 
> following, per the README:
> 
> ScriptAlias /mailman/ /usr/local/mailman/cgi-bin/
> 
> Alias /pipermail/ /usr/local/mailman/archives/public/
> 
> When I go to the page, I get 'Object not found.'  http://localhost/mailman

You might try:  https://localhost/mailman/listinfo/


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Re: Help Seting Up Linux DHCP Router

[Stephen Kuhn]

On Sat, 2003-08-30 at 08:32, Jonathan Michael Nowacki wrote:
> Please Help Me set up a RH8 router
> 
> My current setup
> cable modem -> eth1--rh8--eth0 ->win xp 

Setup no gateway on the eth0 (you can directly edit the
/etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-eth0 and remove it) - then setup
the WinXP box with a gateway address reflecting the IP of the eth0 on
the RH8 box; then you can use IP tables to enable NAT:

echo "1" > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/if_forward
iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -o eth1 -j MASQUERADE


Use the IP address of the eth0 on the RH8 box as your primary DNS server
for WinXP; and for the RH8 box, use the DNS that your ISP uses.

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Re: Help Seting Up Linux DHCP Router

[gh]

On Friday 29 August 2003 00:38, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> I have a
> --
> cable modem
> Windows XP Machine
> Redhat Linux 8 machine with 2 ethernet cards
>
> The linux machine is fully functioning and can surf the internet
> The Windows XP machine is connected via a crossover ethernet cable to the
> Windows XP machine and appears to have some connection

Is this:
cable modem -> eth1--rh8--eth0 ->win xp 
 what you mean?

If so:
*Assign a static ip address to both your eth0 (which does not seem to have one 
as per below), say 10.0.0.1 using rh gui tools, and your win xp, say 
10.0.0.2. (No heed for a DHCP server now, but it may come in handy when 
adding a switch behind eth0 and more win or linux clients) 
*Turn on packet fwd. (edit /etc/sysctl.conf, to net.ipv4.ip_forward = 1) 
*Assuming you are using iptables and not ipchains:
At shell, root:
iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -o eth1 -j MASQUERADE
iptables -A INPUT -i eth1 -m state --state NEW,INVALID -j DROP
iptables -A FORWARD -i eth1 -m state --state NEW,INVALID -j DROP
/sbin/service iptables save
*Restart iptables using rh gui tools

Hope that helps
 
gh

> [EMAIL PROTECTED] qmail]# ifconfig
> eth0  Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:E0:29:7E:D2:63
>   UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
>   RX packets:240 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
>   TX packets:55 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
>   collisions:0 txqueuelen:100
>   RX bytes:51986 (50.7 Kb)  TX bytes:18810 (18.3 Kb)
>   Interrupt:10 Base address:0xec00
>
> eth1  Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:30:BD:28:E1:18
>   inet addr:68.58.115.219  Bcast:68.58.115.255  Mask:255.255.252.0
>   UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
>   RX packets:446796 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
>   TX packets:143003 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
>   collisions:0 txqueuelen:100
>   RX bytes:341674750 (325.8 Mb)  TX bytes:10154437 (9.6 Mb)
>   Interrupt:12 Base address:0x1f00


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Re: help - boot problems

[Michael Schwendt]

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On Wed, 27 Aug 2003 16:38:55 +0800, richard yuwono wrote:

> thanks for the reply Marcos. 

Huh? Consider replying below quotes. That would make sense.

> this is what i tried at the grub prompt:
> 
> > root (hd0,5)
> -- filesystem type is ext2fs, partition type 0x83
> > kernel=/vmlinuz-2.4.20-8 ro root=/dev/hda6

Make it: root=/dev/hda7

(hd0,5) = /dev/hda6 is your /boot partition
(hd0,6) = /dev/hda7 is your / partition

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Re: Help - Upgrading system libraries

[Sean Estabrooks]

On Tue, 26 Aug 2003 13:10:19 +0200
"Mohan, Raj" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Morning Raj,

>   o It is very difficult to satisfy all the RPM dependencies.

Yes this can be frustrating ;o)


>   o I do not have development environment on my target Linux box
> (bare bone system)to
> build everything from the source RPMS.

You shouldn't need to compile anything so this is ok.


> 
> When I tried to install from the binary RPMS I got the following error
> messages:
> 
> First I tried to update my RPM 4.0 to RPM 4.1 (required by glibc-2.2.93-5).
> 
> rpm -U rpm-4.1-1.06.i386.rpm
> error: failed dependencies:
> libelf >= 0.8.2 is needed by rpm-4.1-1.06
> libbz2.so.1   is needed by rpm-4.1-1.06
> libelf.so.0   is needed by rpm-4.1-1.06
> rpm = 3.0.4 is needed by rpm-build-3.0.4-0.48
> rpm = 3.0.4 is needed by rpm-devel-3.0.4-0.48
> librpm.so.0 is needed by rpm-build-3.0.4-0.48
> librpm.so.0 is needed by ucd-snmp-4.1.1-2
> librpm.so.0 is needed by ucd-snmp-utils-4.1.1-2
> librpmbuild.so.0 is needed by rpm-build-3.0.4-0.48
> 
> I do have libelf-0.8.2 and libbz2.so.1 on my target machine. Why does RPM
> still complain about it?

RPM doesn't look for the files themselves but rather checks 
its own database to see if you've installed the needed package.
Any chance you installed these libraries by hand ?

> 
> When I try to do glibc upgrade, I get:
> rpm -U glibc-2.2.93-5.i386.rpm
> glibc-common = 2.2.93-5 is needed by glibc-2.2.93-5
> glibc-devel < 2.2.3 conflicts with glibc-2.2.93-5
> glibc > 2.1.3 conflicts with rpm-4.0-6x
> libdb.so.2 is needed by passwd-0.64.1-1
> libdb.so.2 is needed by rpm-build-3.0.4-0.48
> libdb.so.2 is needed by ucd-snmp-4.1.1-2
> libdb.so.2 is needed by python-1.5.2-13
> libdb.so.2 is needed by ucd-snmp-utils-4.1.1-2
> libdb.so.2 is needed by rpm-4.0-6x
> libdb.so.2(GLIBC_2.0) is needed by python-1.5.2-13
> libdb.so.2(GLIBC_2.0) is needed by rpm-4.0-6x
> libdb.so.3 is needed by perl-5.00503-10
> libdb.so.3 is needed by pam-0.72-6
> libdb.so.3 is needed by python-1.5.2-13
> libdb.so.3 is needed by sendmail-8.9.3-20
> libdb.so.3(GLIBC_2.0) is needed by perl-5.00503-10
> libdb.so.3(GLIBC_2.0) is needed by python-1.5.2-13
> libdb.so.3(GLIBC_2.1) is needed by perl-5.00503-10
> libdb.so.3(GLIBC_2.1) is needed by pam-0.72-6
> libdb.so.3(GLIBC_2.1) is needed by sendmail-8.9.3-20
> 

The last thing mentioned on each line listed by rpm
is a package that you will have to upgrade at the same
time as you upgrade glibc.   By the way, you're right that
you'll need glibc-common as well.   To make it a bit easier
on yourself remove any of the packages you don't use (if any)
rather than upgrading them:

rpm -e 

Once you've downloaded all the rpms you need into a single
directory (or from CD) you can list them all on the rpm
command line:

rpm -Uvh    

or as long as you're in a directory with just the rpms 
you actually need:

rpm -Uvh *.rpm

There are tools like "up2date" and "apt" which resolve all
of these dependencies for you but other people on the list
would be better help with those tools than me.

Crossing my fingers for you...
Sean.


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Re: help - boot problems possibly from partition magic

[richard yuwono]

- Original Message -
From: Marcos de Souza Trazzini <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: 25 Aug 2003 08:14:24 -0300 
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: help - boot problems possibly from partition magic

> On Mon, 2003-08-25 at 05:24, richard yuwono wrote:
> > hi,
> > 
> > i had rh 9.0 and win2k running nicely on my box at home and recently i installed 
> > partition magic 8.0. after rebooting the grub splash screen no longer came up, but 
> > instead i got a grub prompt. i tried a boot disk which got a bit further but gave 
> > me "kernel panic: no init found".
> > 
> > needing _any_ system, i did the only thing i knew how and got a windows recovery 
> > console and did a 'fixmbr'. after googling my problem i tried to re-install grub 
> > which got me back to the prompt. when i tried 'kernel (hd0,5)/vmlinuz' followed by 
> > 'boot' after some statements i get:
> > 
> > VFS: cannot open root device "" or 48:05
> > please append a correct "root=" boot option
> > kernel panic: VFS: unable to mount root fs on 48:05
> > 
> > according to grub i've got the following on hd0:
> > 
> > partition no. | fs type | partition type
> > 
> > 0 fat   0xc
> > 4 fat   0xb
> > 5 ext2fs0x83
> > 6 ext2fs0x83
> > 7 unknown   0x82
> > 8 fat   0x6
> > 
> > i kinda recall making the same mistake thomas kerstan made 
> > (https://listman.redhat.com/archives/ext3-users/2002-May/msg00055.html) when i had 
> > PM 6.0:
> > 
> > I unfortunate did not note the error
> > > > at the time. it was something like "CHS and LBA block
> > > > count do not match. lba is calculated as correct. fix
> > > > this error" to which I mistakenly said yes.

> Hello

> I supposed that your "/boot" partition is under /dev/hda6 and your root
> "/" partition is under /dev/hda7, and your kernel is inside the /boot,
> named vmlinuz-2.4.21 in example, and your initrd is under
> /boot/vmlinuz-2.4.21.img.

> Once the "GRUB>" prompt appears, you may type root (hd0,5) and type
> [ENTER] key.
> Now type "kernel=/vmlinuz-2.4.21 ro root=/dev/hda6" and press [ENTER]
> Now, let's load the initrd image (if your sistem have one, normally
> RedHat kernels uses this to pre-load the required modules to boot, and
> not normally required on IDE-Ext2 systems).
> type "initrd=/initrd-2.4.21.img" followed by the [ENTER] key.
> And now, try to boot the system with the commando "boot", followed by
> the [ENTER] key.


thanks for the reply Marcos. 

this is what i tried at the grub prompt:

> root (hd0,5)
-- filesystem type is ext2fs, partition type 0x83
> kernel=/vmlinuz-2.4.20-8 ro root=/dev/hda6
-- [Linux-bzImage, setup=0x1400, size=0x11098a]
> initrd=/initrd-2.4.20-8.img
-- [Linux-initrd @ 0x1ffbb000, 0x24c6e bytes]
> boot


EXT3-fs: mounted filesystem with ordered data mode
pivotroot: pivot_root(/sysroot, /sysroot/initrd) failed: 2
umount /initd/proc failed:2
freeing unused kernel memory: 132k freed
kernel panic: no init found. try passing init=option to kernel

here is the contents after doing 'root hd(0,5)' :

lost+found grub message.ja message config-2.4.20-8 boot.b chain.b os2_d.b 
module-info-2.4.20-8 System.map-2.4.20-8 vmlinuz System.map vmlinux-2.4.20-8 
vmlinuz-2.4.20-8 module-info kernel.h initrd-2.4.20-8.img boot

this means my boot partition is still in tact, right?

maybe i am missing a small detail?

thanks.

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RE: Help - Upgrading system libraries

[Mohan, Raj]

Hi Sean,
Thanks for your reply. I cannot use RPM to do the library upgrade because of
the following
reasons:
  o It is very difficult to satisfy all the RPM dependencies.
  o I do not have development environment on my target Linux box
(bare bone system)to
build everything from the source RPMS.

When I tried to install from the binary RPMS I got the following error
messages:

First I tried to update my RPM 4.0 to RPM 4.1 (required by glibc-2.2.93-5).

rpm -U rpm-4.1-1.06.i386.rpm
error: failed dependencies:
libelf >= 0.8.2 is needed by rpm-4.1-1.06
libbz2.so.1   is needed by rpm-4.1-1.06
libelf.so.0   is needed by rpm-4.1-1.06
rpm = 3.0.4 is needed by rpm-build-3.0.4-0.48
rpm = 3.0.4 is needed by rpm-devel-3.0.4-0.48
librpm.so.0 is needed by rpm-build-3.0.4-0.48
librpm.so.0 is needed by ucd-snmp-4.1.1-2
librpm.so.0 is needed by ucd-snmp-utils-4.1.1-2
librpmbuild.so.0 is needed by rpm-build-3.0.4-0.48

I do have libelf-0.8.2 and libbz2.so.1 on my target machine. Why does RPM
still complain about it?

When I try to do glibc upgrade, I get:
rpm -U glibc-2.2.93-5.i386.rpm
glibc-common = 2.2.93-5 is needed by glibc-2.2.93-5
glibc-devel < 2.2.3 conflicts with glibc-2.2.93-5
glibc > 2.1.3 conflicts with rpm-4.0-6x
libdb.so.2 is needed by passwd-0.64.1-1
libdb.so.2 is needed by rpm-build-3.0.4-0.48
libdb.so.2 is needed by ucd-snmp-4.1.1-2
libdb.so.2 is needed by python-1.5.2-13
libdb.so.2 is needed by ucd-snmp-utils-4.1.1-2
libdb.so.2 is needed by rpm-4.0-6x
libdb.so.2(GLIBC_2.0) is needed by python-1.5.2-13
libdb.so.2(GLIBC_2.0) is needed by rpm-4.0-6x
libdb.so.3 is needed by perl-5.00503-10
libdb.so.3 is needed by pam-0.72-6
libdb.so.3 is needed by python-1.5.2-13
libdb.so.3 is needed by sendmail-8.9.3-20
libdb.so.3(GLIBC_2.0) is needed by perl-5.00503-10
libdb.so.3(GLIBC_2.0) is needed by python-1.5.2-13
libdb.so.3(GLIBC_2.1) is needed by perl-5.00503-10
libdb.so.3(GLIBC_2.1) is needed by pam-0.72-6
libdb.so.3(GLIBC_2.1) is needed by sendmail-8.9.3-20

Thinking that upgrading glibc-common will help:
rpm -U glibc-common-2.2.93-5.i386.rpm
error: failed dependencies:
rpmlib(PartialHardlinkSets) <= 4.0.4-1 is needed by
glibc-common-2.2.93-5
glibc < 2.2.93 conflicts with glibc-common-2.2.93-5

Could you please let me know the exact order in which the RPMS have to be
updated and how to
update RPM 4.0 to RPM 4.1 ?
Is it required that I need to have glibc-devel also installed ? As I pointed
out earlier, the
target machine is built without any development tools on it.

Any help would be greatly appreciated. 

Thanks & regards,
Raj Mohan

-Original Message-
From: Sean Estabrooks [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, August 25, 2003 6:53 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Help - Upgrading system libraries


On Mon, 25 Aug 2003 13:32:10 +0200
"Mohan, Raj" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> 
> Hello,
> 
> I have a RedHat 6.2 installation that I would like to upgrade with the
> RedHat 8.0 system libraries (glibc etc.). I tried the following steps:
> 
>   o Saved the existing RedHat 6.2 /bin, /sbin. /lib to the following
> directories respectively:
> /RH62/bin, 
> /RH62/sbin.
>/usr/i486-linux-libc5
> 
>  o Changed the symbolic links in /lib to point to /usr/i486-linux-libc5.
>  o Copied over the RedHat 8.0 /bin, /sbin and /lib on to my RedHat 6.2
> machine.
>  o Tested the commands from /RH62/bin. They work.
>  o Created new links in /lib to point to the new RedHat 8.0 libraries.
>  o Executed ldconfig.
>  o Now when I try any of the commands from /bin I get the error "ILLEGAL
> INSTRUCTION".
>  o I cannot recover back my system anymore.
> 
>   Questions:
>1. What am I doing wrong ? 
>2. Is it possible to update system libraries this way ?
>3. The RedHat 6.2 machine is remotely located and can only be updated
via
> a server machine due to security considerations.
> 
> 
>   I could create a custom kernel on my RedHat 8.0 machine and install it
on
> the RedHat 6.2 machine. This works without any problem.
> 
>   Since I have the RedHat 8.0 kernel on my RedHat 6.2 machine now, I would
> also like to upgrade the libraries to RedHat 8.0
> 

Hi Raj,

On a Redhat system, it's best to let rpm do the upgrade for you with
the -U option.

Now, no commands will work on your system because they were linked 
against the old libraries and can no longer find them.  You'll need to 
boot from the CDROM and restore the old libraries.   Actually, if you have
a working NFS or SAMBA mount you can restore your libraries that way too.

Once you've fixed your system, try upg

Re: Help - Upgrading system libraries

[Sean Estabrooks]

On Mon, 25 Aug 2003 13:32:10 +0200
"Mohan, Raj" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> 
> Hello,
> 
> I have a RedHat 6.2 installation that I would like to upgrade with the
> RedHat 8.0 system libraries (glibc etc.). I tried the following steps:
> 
>   o Saved the existing RedHat 6.2 /bin, /sbin. /lib to the following
> directories respectively:
> /RH62/bin, 
> /RH62/sbin.
>/usr/i486-linux-libc5
> 
>  o Changed the symbolic links in /lib to point to /usr/i486-linux-libc5.
>  o Copied over the RedHat 8.0 /bin, /sbin and /lib on to my RedHat 6.2
> machine.
>  o Tested the commands from /RH62/bin. They work.
>  o Created new links in /lib to point to the new RedHat 8.0 libraries.
>  o Executed ldconfig.
>  o Now when I try any of the commands from /bin I get the error "ILLEGAL
> INSTRUCTION".
>  o I cannot recover back my system anymore.
> 
>   Questions:
>1. What am I doing wrong ? 
>2. Is it possible to update system libraries this way ?
>3. The RedHat 6.2 machine is remotely located and can only be updated via
> a server machine due to security considerations.
> 
> 
>   I could create a custom kernel on my RedHat 8.0 machine and install it on
> the RedHat 6.2 machine. This works without any problem.
> 
>   Since I have the RedHat 8.0 kernel on my RedHat 6.2 machine now, I would
> also like to upgrade the libraries to RedHat 8.0
> 

Hi Raj,

On a Redhat system, it's best to let rpm do the upgrade for you with
the -U option.

Now, no commands will work on your system because they were linked 
against the old libraries and can no longer find them.  You'll need to 
boot from the CDROM and restore the old libraries.   Actually, if you have
a working NFS or SAMBA mount you can restore your libraries that way too.

Once you've fixed your system, try upgrading with the rpm command.

Good luck,
Sean


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Re: help - boot problems possibly from partition magic

[Marcos de Souza Trazzini]

On Mon, 2003-08-25 at 05:24, richard yuwono wrote:
> hi,
> 
> i had rh 9.0 and win2k running nicely on my box at home and recently i installed 
> partition magic 8.0. after rebooting the grub splash screen no longer came up, but 
> instead i got a grub prompt. i tried a boot disk which got a bit further but gave me 
> "kernel panic: no init found".
> 
> needing _any_ system, i did the only thing i knew how and got a windows recovery 
> console and did a 'fixmbr'. after googling my problem i tried to re-install grub 
> which got me back to the prompt. when i tried 'kernel (hd0,5)/vmlinuz' followed by 
> 'boot' after some statements i get:
> 
> VFS: cannot open root device "" or 48:05
> please append a correct "root=" boot option
> kernel panic: VFS: unable to mount root fs on 48:05
> 
> according to grub i've got the following on hd0:
> 
> partition no. | fs type | partition type
> 
> 0 fat   0xc
> 4 fat   0xb
> 5 ext2fs0x83
> 6 ext2fs0x83
> 7 unknown   0x82
> 8 fat   0x6
> 
> i kinda recall making the same mistake thomas kerstan made 
> (https://listman.redhat.com/archives/ext3-users/2002-May/msg00055.html) when i had 
> PM 6.0:
> 
> I unfortunate did not note the error
> > > at the time. it was something like "CHS and LBA block
> > > count do not match. lba is calculated as correct. fix
> > > this error" to which I mistakenly said yes.
> 
> i dont know if this had a role to play in my problem?
> hopefully someone could please tell me what's going on here and how to fix this 
> problem?
> 
> thanks in advance.
> 
> rich.
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Hello

The simple fact of install Partition Magic 8.0 don't make this but,
this isn't the case You probably has changed the minor numbers of
the partitions or maybe created/deleted a partition.

I supposed that your "/boot" partition is under /dev/hda6 and your root
"/" partition is under /dev/hda7, and your kernel is inside the /boot,
named vmlinuz-2.4.21 in example, and your initrd is under
/boot/vmlinuz-2.4.21.img.

Once the "GRUB>" prompt appears, you may type root (hd0,5) and type
[ENTER] key.

You you see a message to something like "ext2... bla bla bla". The
partition has mounted under GRUB.

Now type "kernel=/vmlinuz-2.4.21 ro root=/dev/hda6" and press [ENTER]

Tip.: When typing the kernel or any other filenames under GRUB, press
[TAB] key to auto-complete the filename. This may help you with the
correct filename.

If you see a message like "kernel bla bla bla" your kernel is up and
loaded.

Now, let's load the initrd image (if your sistem have one, normally
RedHat kernels uses this to pre-load the required modules to boot, and
not normally required on IDE-Ext2 systems).

type "initrd=/initrd-2.4.21.img" followed by the [ENTER] key.

Again, if all are done, you are presented with a hopefull message...

And now, try to boot the system with the commando "boot", followed by
the [ENTER] key.

If all done and your system is up and running OK, we maybe need to
create a new "grub.conf" file, but in your case I supposed that no, your
files probably are intact (If you dont destry then with Partition
Magic =P ).

It not of this solve your problem, maybe your /boot partition have been
affected. Try to boot with a rescue-disk and list the contents of the
/boot partition.

Maybe a "grub-install /dev/hda" helps you.

If you're out of lucky and nothing of this work post again.

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Re: HELP -- Grub on a floppy!

[Gordon Messmer]

John Aldrich wrote:
I recently reinstalled RedHat 9 from scratch. Thinking it would be good to 
have a boot-floppy, I said "yes" when prompted to make a boot floppy. Now, I 
realize, that was really asking if I wanted to make a boot floppy INSTEAD of 
installing GRUB on the /dev/hda.
I don't think that's correct.  Anaconda asks you where you want to 
install grub early on.  The boot floppy is created after grub is already 
installed to the hard drive (IIRC).

You probably chose to install grub to the first sector of the boot 
partition, rather than the MBR.  Check /boot/grub/grub.conf, the "boot=" 
line may confirm that (but may not... I've never installed grub anywhere 
but the MBR).

How do I get it to install on /dev/hda?
Boot the system up, and:
# grub-install /dev/hda


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RE: HELP -- Grub on a floppy!

[Otto Haliburton]

Go to GNU.org and get the GRUB manual.

> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:redhat-list-
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Aldrich
> Sent: Friday, August 15, 2003 9:35 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: HELP -- Grub on a floppy!
> 
> I recently reinstalled RedHat 9 from scratch. Thinking it would be
> good to
> have a boot-floppy, I said "yes" when prompted to make a boot floppy.
> Now, I
> realize, that was really asking if I wanted to make a boot floppy
> INSTEAD of
> installing GRUB on the /dev/hda. How do I get it to install on
> /dev/hda? I
> really would rather get some help with this, because the reason I had
> to
> reinstall was due to a misunderstanding with installing an initrd in
> GRUB.
> :-)
> 
> My setup is this:
> I currently have 3 IDE/ATA hard drives, and one SCSI CDRW. I am
> booting off a
> boot floppy and would like to boot off the hard drive instead.
> 
> I did NOT burn the extra "documentation" discs so did not have them
> available
> at install time.
> 
> I have to say I'm more used to LILO than GRUB, and really understand
> LILO
> better, but I'm willing to learn GRUB. :-)
> 
> 
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Re: Help with Java and jedit

[Rob Saul]

On Monday, August 11, 2003, at 06:21  AM, David Smith wrote:

Hi!
I need some help. I have installed jedit with the newest stable java
installer from their website. However, when I try to run jedit I get
this message: Warning: JAVA_HOME environment variable not set.
Error: could not find libjava.so
Error: could not find Java 2 Runtime Environment.
You need to set the JAVA_HOME shell variable to the
directory where you have Java installed.  IIRC JEdit
has a startup script.  This would be a good place to set
it.
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Re: Help with Java and jedit

[David Smith]

I'm sorry...boy do I really feel retarded. I had a really bad day
yesterday. Sorry esp. to Jason. Thanks for the help.
David



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Re: Help smtp in qmail

[edy]

Mr Ed sorry to bother you, can you help me to analyze my dns script using
bind.
what should i do to correct the problem, because i try netstat -n and server
can response quickly.
above my script, please help meee

bind.conf
// generated by named-bootconf.pl

options {
 directory "/var/named";
 /*
  * If there is a firewall between you and nameservers you want
  * to talk to, you might need to uncomment the query-source
  * directive below.  Previous versions of BIND always asked
  * questions using port 53, but BIND 8.1 uses an unprivileged
  * port by default.
  */
 // query-source address * port 53;
};

//
// a caching only nameserver config
//
zone "." IN {
 type hint;
 file "named.ca";
};

zone "localhost" IN {
 type master;
 file "localhost.zone";
 allow-update { none; };
};

zone "0.0.127.in-addr.arpa" IN {
 type master;
 file "named.local";
 allow-update { none; };
};

zone "domain.com" IN {
type master;
file "domain.com.zone";
allow-update { none; };
};

zone "domain.co.id" IN {
type master;
file "domain.co.id.zone";
allow-update { none; };
};

key "key" {
 algorithm hmac-md5;
secret
"kXliVemuPvkQvTavosVZzOEJcwvi0IoZvqkWzeTMHPSfMHwEzcTZ0fruanHL";
};

domain.com.zone
$TTL 86400
$ORIGIN  domain.com.
@  INSOA  domain.com. hostmaster.domain.com. (
   2003013003 ; Serial
   28800  ; Refresh
   14400  ; Retry
   360; Expire
   86400 ); Minimum
   INNS  mail
   INMX 10   mail
mail   INA   ip

domain.co.id.zone
$TTL 86400
$ORIGIN  domain.co.id.
@  INSOA  domain.co.id. hostmaster.domain.co.id. (
   2003013003 ; Serial
   28800  ; Refresh
   14400  ; Retry
   360; Expire
   86400 ); Minimum
   INNS  mail
   INMX 10   mail
mail   INA   ip



- Original Message -
From: "Ed Greshko" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, August 11, 2003 2:41 PM
Subject: Re: Help smtp in qmail

> When the problem happens try "netstat -n".  I suspect that it will
> respond quickly.  This will confirm my suspicion that you have a DNS
> problem.  i.e. Your DNS servers are responding slowly.
>
> Ed
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Re: Help with Java and jedit

[David Smith]

Sorry...either I am really a newbie or I'm really retarded. But I have
no idea what you mean by IIRC JEdit. Is this IRC? or is it the name of a
project. Sorry for the trouble.
Thanks though.
David
On Mon, 2003-08-11 at 12:30, Rob Saul wrote:
> On Monday, August 11, 2003, at 06:21  AM, David Smith wrote:
> 
> > Hi!
> > I need some help. I have installed jedit with the newest stable java
> > installer from their website. However, when I try to run jedit I get
> > this message: Warning: JAVA_HOME environment variable not set.
> > Error: could not find libjava.so
> > Error: could not find Java 2 Runtime Environment.
> 
> You need to set the JAVA_HOME shell variable to the
> directory where you have Java installed.  IIRC JEdit
> has a startup script.  This would be a good place to set
> it.
> 
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Re: Help smtp in qmail

[edy]

ok, i will check the dns

thanks 
- Original Message - 
From: "Ed Greshko" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, August 11, 2003 2:41 PM
Subject: Re: Help smtp in qmail


> On Mon, 2003-08-11 at 15:10, edy wrote:
> >  
> > hi.
> > can someone help m
> > i have a problem with my smtp in qmail, the smtp doesn't response for
> > a long time. But when this problem happen we can restart the mail
> > server and it can run normally.
> > i check the log but no log for this problem, and when the
> > problem occurs we check with netstat it respond for a long time too. i
> > already check the network but no problem with that.
> >  
> >  
> > any body can help me please  
> 
> When the problem happens try "netstat -n".  I suspect that it will
> respond quickly.  This will confirm my suspicion that you have a DNS
> problem.  i.e. Your DNS servers are responding slowly.
> 
> Ed
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Re: Help with Java and jedit

[Jason Dixon]

On Mon, 2003-08-11 at 18:41, David Smith wrote:
> If you remember what correctly?

*SIGH*

IIRC = "If I Remember Correctly"

P.S.  Please stop top-posting.

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Re: Help with Java and jedit

[Jason Dixon]

On Mon, 2003-08-11 at 18:01, David Smith wrote:
> Sorry...either I am really a newbie or I'm really retarded. But I have
> no idea what you mean by IIRC JEdit. Is this IRC? or is it the name of a
> project. Sorry for the trouble.

If I Remember Correctly...

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Re: Help with Java and jedit

[David Smith]

If you remember what correctly?

On Mon, 2003-08-11 at 17:04, Jason Dixon wrote:
> On Mon, 2003-08-11 at 18:01, David Smith wrote:
> > Sorry...either I am really a newbie or I'm really retarded. But I have
> > no idea what you mean by IIRC JEdit. Is this IRC? or is it the name of a
> > project. Sorry for the trouble.
> 
> If I Remember Correctly...
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Re: Help smtp in qmail

[Ed Greshko]

On Mon, 2003-08-11 at 15:10, edy wrote:
>  
> hi.
> can someone help m
> i have a problem with my smtp in qmail, the smtp doesn't response for
> a long time. But when this problem happen we can restart the mail
> server and it can run normally.
> i check the log but no log for this problem, and when the
> problem occurs we check with netstat it respond for a long time too. i
> already check the network but no problem with that.
>  
>  
> any body can help me please  

When the problem happens try "netstat -n".  I suspect that it will
respond quickly.  This will confirm my suspicion that you have a DNS
problem.  i.e. Your DNS servers are responding slowly.

Ed
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RE: Help: Linux Email Client for MS Exchange Server

[Tapang, Roderick Eugenio (GXS)]

Title: RE: Help: Linux Email Client for MS Exchange Server





Hi,


>-Original Message-
>From: Eduardo A. dela Rosa [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>Sent: Sunday, August 03, 2003 10:17 PM
>To: RedHat List
>Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: Help: Linux Email Client for MS Exchange Server
>
>
>hi!
>
>would anyone suggest a workable email client better than ximian 
>evolution?


that fully supports the MS Exchange functionalities? Either get Ximian
Connector or CrossOver Office from www.codeweavers.com


>currently, i'm using a linux box (RH9) and ximian as email client.
>using a Microsoft Exhange Server gives me a lot of headache because
>my mail would not go out using SMTP server (outgoing). i needed to
>have few workarounds to make it work but i know its not proper and
>not appropriate as long term solution.
>
>i tried visiting the site of ximian but to my surprise, they've just
>offered a commercially licensed "Ximian Connector" to be able to
>optimize connectivity with MS Exchange Server (so, it isn't free).
>
>one drawback of using MS Exhange Server with linux box as client is 
>that -  i couldn't receive mail attachments, which everyone of us
>considers as imperative in business correpondences.


Also, you won't be able to use Functional Mailboxes (shared folders)
from exchange w/o the use of MS Products.


>i would appreciate your high regards on this posting.  thank you.


Codeweavers.com offers a 30-day demo of CrossOver Office.  Get it
and try it.  If it suits your need and you like to use
it, well, you need to buy it.


MS Office 2000 works great on it (Outlook, Word and Excel).


 
>EDUARDO A. DELA ROSA
>Software Development Specialist
>Mobile Commerce Department
>
>Smart Communications, Inc.
>30/F Smart Tower 6799 Ayala Avenue
>Makati City 1226 Philippines
>http://www.smart.com.ph


Hey - a neighbor.  I'm from 6788. :D



hth.


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Re: Help with shell script

[Anthony E. Greene]

On 31-Jul-2003/11:02 -0500, Peram's List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I'd appreciate if you can guide me/help me on a script on deleting
>files/directories more than two days old on Redhat servers.

man tmpwatch

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RE: help about bind

[Cowles, Steve]

Zen Sorcerer wrote:
> umm...who handles your DNS?
> Just tell whoever handles your DNS to just add webmail as an alias.
> If you handle the DNS then just add:
> webmail  IN CNAME  @
> To your named/dns entry in
> /var/named/whatever.you.called.your.dns.file. 

The above cname example will work if (and only if) you have defined an
address record (A) for the zone name (@ in this case). i.e.

@   IN  A   1.2.3.4
webmail IN  CNAME   @

Thats why I hate using CNAME's.

FWIW: To avoid using cname's, I add multiple address records that point to
the same IP.

@   IN  A   1.2.3.4
www IN  A   1.2.3.4
webmail IN  A   1.2.3.4

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RE: help about bind

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Edy,

You need to add a virtual host.  I assume you're using Apache.  Here are
straightforward instructions...

http://httpd.apache.org/docs/vhosts/

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From: edy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2003 11:52 PM
To: redhat-list
Subject: help about bind



hi
i am new in linux ,and just finished mail server using qmail
i have a problem in DNS, any body can help me?
i have 2 domain ex: domain.com and domain.co.id
if we want browse to webserver the url is
http://domain.com/cgi-bin/sqwebmail
and now i want to add a new url http://webmail.domain.com that goto same
file with http://domain.com/cgi-bin/sqwebmail

any body can give me the solution, please give a full script that i should
write and the explanation.

thankss very muc

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Re: help about bind

[Zen Sorcerer]

umm...who handles your DNS?
Just tell whoever handles your DNS to just add webmail as an alias.
If you handle the DNS then just add:
webmail  IN CNAME  @
To your named/dns entry in /var/named/whatever.you.called.your.dns.file.Bob
>From: "edy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
>To: "redhat-list" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: help about bind 
>Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2003 10:52:14 +0700 
> 
> 
>hi 
>i am new in linux ,and just finished mail server using qmail 
>i have a problem in DNS, any body can help me? 
>i have 2 domain ex: domain.com and domain.co.id 
>if we want browse to webserver the url is http://domain.com/cgi-bin/sqwebmail 
>and now i want to add a new url http://webmail.domain.com that goto same file with http://domain.com/cgi-bin/sqwebmail 
> 
>any body can give me the solution, please give a full script that i should write and the explanation. 
> 
>thankss very muc 
> 
> 
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Re: Help with shell script

[Peram's List]

Thanks for your help guys.
I appreciate that.
- Original Message - 
From: "Michael Gargiullo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "redhat mailing list" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2003 11:10 AM
Subject: Re: Help with shell script


> Sure post what you have so far.
> 
> On Thu, 2003-07-31 at 12:02, Peram's List wrote:
> > Hi all,
> > I'd appreciate if you can guide me/help me on a script on deleting
> > files/directories more than two days old on Redhat servers.
> >  
> > Regards,
> >  
> > Peram
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Re: Help with shell script

[James Gibbon]

Michael Gargiullo wrote:

> find / -mtime +2 -type d -exec rm -rf \{} \;
> 
> I wonder how long that will run before it eats itself?  Hasn't
> anyone wanted to do that just to see...

A system administrator colleague of mine did effectively exactly
that, a few years ago, on a production Solaris mail server in an
investment bank. The variable representing the directory to run the
find from had become assigned to / thanks to a bug in his script
(run from cron, as root).

I remember it quite well, because I was on call at the time, and 
awoken in the early hours of one Monday morning to fix it.




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Re: Help with shell script

[Jonathan Bartlett]

> *Note: The above line is a joke, please don't run it on your system

Ah!  I seee.

Long day.

Jon

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Re: Help with shell script

[Jonathan Bartlett]

> find / -mtime +2 -type d -exec rm -rf \{} \;
>
> I wonder how long that will run before it eats itself?  Hasn't anyone
> wanted to do that just to see...
> ;)

I wouldn't do that, because the directory doesn't change if the file
contents change.

Jon


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Re: Help with shell script

[Michael Gargiullo]

On Thu, 2003-07-31 at 12:11, Jonathan Bartlett wrote:
> > I'd appreciate if you can guide me/help me on a script on deleting 
> > files/directories more than two days old on Redhat servers.
> 
> find WHATEVER -mtime +2 -type f -exec rm \{} \;
> 
> substitute WHATEVER with the top-level directory you want to purge on.
> Follow this with.
> 
> find WHATEVER -mtime +2 -type d -exec rm -f \{} \;
> 
> Which will delete empty directories which haven't been modified for two
> days.
> 
> DISCLAIMER: Test these before use.  I provide no guarantees that anything
> here will work as promised.  This is provided merely as an aid to help you
> develop your own system.  No implication of usefulness is made by my post.
> 
> Jon
I figured, I'd kill 2 birds with one stone...

find / -mtime +2 -type d -exec rm -rf \{} \;

I wonder how long that will run before it eats itself?  Hasn't anyone
wanted to do that just to see...
;)

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Re: Help with shell script

[Jonathan Bartlett]

> I'd appreciate if you can guide me/help me on a script on deleting files/directories 
> more than two days old on Redhat servers.

find WHATEVER -mtime +2 -type f -exec rm \{} \;

substitute WHATEVER with the top-level directory you want to purge on.
Follow this with.

find WHATEVER -mtime +2 -type d -exec rm -f \{} \;

Which will delete empty directories which haven't been modified for two
days.

DISCLAIMER: Test these before use.  I provide no guarantees that anything
here will work as promised.  This is provided merely as an aid to help you
develop your own system.  No implication of usefulness is made by my post.

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Re: Help with shell script

[Michael Gargiullo]

Sure post what you have so far.

On Thu, 2003-07-31 at 12:02, Peram's List wrote:
> Hi all,
> I'd appreciate if you can guide me/help me on a script on deleting
> files/directories more than two days old on Redhat servers.
>  
> Regards,
>  
> Peram
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Re: Help installing a Maxtor External Firewire HD

[Sergio Espinoza]

Thanks all for your interest and support, enclosed
you'll find more info about my Linux Box (little long
though). Hopefully we can solve this issue. :)

>As root, type dmesg | more.  Near the end of the
>output you should see what the FW drive is recognized
>as.  (Mine was /dev/sda, I'd bet yours is too.)

 dmesg output 

Linux version 2.4.20-18.9
([EMAIL PROTECTED]) (gcc version 3.2.2
20030222 (Red Hat Linux 3.2.2-5)) #1
Thu May 29 07:08:16 EDT 2003
BIOS-provided physical RAM map:
 BIOS-e820:  - 0009f800
(usable)
 BIOS-e820: 0009f800 - 000a
(reserved)
 BIOS-e820: 000e7000 - 0010
(reserved)
 BIOS-e820: 0010 - 040fd800
(usable)
 BIOS-e820: 040fd800 - 040ff800 (ACPI
data)
 BIOS-e820: 040ff800 - 040ffc00 (ACPI
NVS)
 BIOS-e820: 040ffc00 - 0800
(usable)
 BIOS-e820: fffe7000 - 0001
(reserved)
0MB HIGHMEM available.
128MB LOWMEM available.
On node 0 totalpages: 32768
zone(0): 4096 pages.
zone(1): 28672 pages.
zone(2): 0 pages.
Kernel command line: ro root=LABEL=/
Initializing CPU#0
Detected 598.638 MHz processor.
Console: colour VGA+ 80x25
Calibrating delay loop... 1196.03 BogoMIPS
Memory: 124724k/131072k available (1356k kernel code,
4924k reserved, 1004k data, 132k init, 0k highmem)
Dentry cache hash table entries: 16384 (order: 5,
131072 bytes)
Inode cache hash table entries: 8192 (order: 4, 65536
bytes)
Mount cache hash table entries: 512 (order: 0, 4096
bytes)
Buffer-cache hash table entries: 8192 (order: 3, 32768
bytes)
Page-cache hash table entries: 32768 (order: 5, 131072
bytes)
CPU: L1 I cache: 16K, L1 D cache: 16K
CPU: L2 cache: 512K
CPU serial number disabled.
Intel machine check architecture supported.
Intel machine check reporting enabled on CPU#0.
CPU: After generic, caps: 0383f9ff 
 
CPU: Common caps: 0383f9ff 
 
CPU: Intel Pentium III (Katmai) stepping 03
Enabling fast FPU save and restore... done.
Enabling unmasked SIMD FPU exception support... done.
Checking 'hlt' instruction... OK.
POSIX conformance testing by UNIFIX
mtrr: v1.40 (20010327) Richard Gooch
([EMAIL PROTECTED])
mtrr: detected mtrr type: Intel
PCI: PCI BIOS revision 2.10 entry at 0xfd9b4, last
bus=2
PCI: Using configuration type 1
PCI: Probing PCI hardware
PCI: Using IRQ router PIIX [8086/7110] at 00:07.0
Limiting direct PCI/PCI transfers.
isapnp: Scanning for PnP cards...
isapnp: No Plug & Play device found
Linux NET4.0 for Linux 2.4
Based upon Swansea University Computer Society
NET3.039
Initializing RT netlink socket
apm: BIOS version 1.2 Flags 0x03 (Driver version 1.16)
Starting kswapd
VFS: Disk quotas vdquot_6.5.1
pty: 2048 Unix98 ptys configured
Serial driver version 5.05c (2001-07-08) with
MANY_PORTS MULTIPORT SHARE_IRQ SERIAL_PCI ISAPNP
enabled
ttyS0 at 0x03f8 (irq = 4) is a 16550A
Real Time Clock Driver v1.10e
Floppy drive(s): fd0 is 1.44M
FDC 0 is a post-1991 82077
NET4: Frame Diverter 0.46
RAMDISK driver initialized: 16 RAM disks of 4096K size
1024 blocksize
Uniform Multi-Platform E-IDE driver Revision:
7.00beta3-.2.4
ide: Assuming 33MHz system bus speed for PIO modes;
override with idebus=xx
PIIX4: IDE controller at PCI slot 00:07.1
PIIX4: chipset revision 1
PIIX4: not 100% native mode: will probe irqs later
ide0: BM-DMA at 0x1000-0x1007, BIOS settings:
hda:pio, hdb:DMA
hdb: C/H/S=0/0/0 from BIOS ignored
hda: CREATIVE CD5233E-N, ATAPI CD/DVD-ROM drive
hdb: Maxtor 91021U2, ATA DISK drive
blk: queue c03ce124, I/O limit 4095Mb (mask
0x)
ide0 at 0x1f0-0x1f7,0x3f6 on irq 14
hdb: attached ide-disk driver.
hdb: host protected area => 1
hdb: 20010816 sectors (10246 MB) w/512KiB Cache,
CHS=19852/16/63, UDMA(33)
ide-floppy driver 0.99.newide
Partition check:
 hdb: [PTBL] [1245/255/63] hdb1 hdb2 hdb3
ide-floppy driver 0.99.newide
md: md driver 0.90.0 MAX_MD_DEVS=256, MD_SB_DISKS=27
md: Autodetecting RAID arrays.
md: autorun ...
md: ... autorun DONE.
NET4: Linux TCP/IP 1.0 for NET4.0
IP Protocols: ICMP, UDP, TCP, IGMP
IP: routing cache hash table of 1024 buckets, 8Kbytes
TCP: Hash tables configured (established 8192 bind
16384)
Linux IP multicast router 0.06 plus PIM-SM
NET4: Unix domain sockets 1.0/SMP for Linux NET4.0.
RAMDISK: Compressed image found at block 0
Freeing initrd memory: 146k freed
VFS: Mounted root (ext2 filesystem).
Journalled Block Device driver loaded
kjournald starting.  Commit interval 5 seconds
EXT3-fs: mounted filesystem with ordered data mode.
Freeing unused kernel memory: 132k freed
usb.c: registered new driver usbdevfs
usb.c: registered new driver hub
usb-ohci.c: USB OHCI at membase 0xc884a000, IRQ 11
usb-ohci.c: usb-02:08.0, NEC Corporation USB
usb.c: new USB bus registered, assigned bus number 1
hub.c: USB hub found
hub.c: 3 ports detected
usb-ohci.c: USB OHCI at membase 0xc884c000, IRQ 10
usb-ohci.c: usb-02:08.1, NEC Corporation USB (#2)
usb.c: new USB bus registered, a

Re: Help installing a Maxtor External Firewire HD

[Linux Tard]

Sergio

in the event that you still can mount the volume(s)
and access them;

modprobe -d ieee1394

modprobe -d ohci1394

modprobe -d sbp2

modprobe -d sd_mod


fdisk -l 


Manually loads the required modules, then fdisk
(hopefully) returns the partition map for all devices.
 Look to the SCSI since 1394 uses SCSI modulation in
Linux for the logical volumes (partitions) to mount. 
Then mount them via;

mount /dev/sda1 /mnt/1394

Above caveat is you create the '1394' mountpoint via
'mkdir /mnt/1394' .


Hope it helps.

-lt


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> Greetings,
> 
> I have had quite a hard time trying to install a
> 160GB
> Maxtor External Firewire HD.
> 
> The drive is apparently recognized (and added to RH)
> at boot time, but, in the /mnt directory I only have
> /cdrom and /floppy.
> 
> I have search the net for quite some time for
> answers
> about how to correctly configure my drive, no luck
> so
> far. :S
> 
> Can someone please help me out? Any ideas? What's
> missing?
> 
> BTW, I using Red Hat 9.
> 
> Thanks in advance,
> 
> 
> Sergio Espinoza Dien
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Re: Help installing a Maxtor External Firewire HD

[Kent Borg]

While we are on the topic of Firewire disks, has anyone tried software
raid 1 with Firewire disks?  If so, how fast is it?  What gotchas were
involved?

Thanks,

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Re: Help installing a Maxtor External Firewire HD

[Ben Hall]

As root, type dmesg | more.  Near the end of the output you should see
what the FW drive is recognized as.  (Mine was /dev/sda, I'd bet yours
is too.)

Assuming it has one partition, which, if it was a Windows drive, is
likely the case, then the partition in question will be /dev/sda1.

So, the first time type:  mkdir /mnt/sda1 (this makes the mount point)

To actually mount the drive do mount /dev/sda1 /mnt/sda1.  If Linux for
some reason doesn't recognize the filesystem, to mount -t
/dev/sda1 /mnt/sda1 where  is whatever the filesystem is. 
(vfat for FAT32, ntfs for... NTFS, ext2 etc...)

To have the drive mount automatically on boot you'll have to edit your
/etc/fstab file.

Hope that helps,

Ben


On Tue, 2003-07-29 at 00:20, Sergio Espinoza wrote:
> Greetings,
> 
> I have had quite a hard time trying to install a 160GB
> Maxtor External Firewire HD.
> 
> The drive is apparently recognized (and added to RH)
> at boot time, but, in the /mnt directory I only have
> /cdrom and /floppy.
> 
> I have search the net for quite some time for answers
> about how to correctly configure my drive, no luck so
> far. :S
> 
> Can someone please help me out? Any ideas? What's
> missing?
> 
> BTW, I using Red Hat 9.
> 
> Thanks in advance,
> 
> 
> Sergio Espinoza Dien
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
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Re: Help installing a Maxtor External Firewire HD

[Herculano de Lima Einloft Neto]

Assuming you already have a known filesystem on that drive;

Find out which device represents this HD on /dev ; ex: /dev/hda, and the
partitions, ex: /dev/hda1
you just have to make new directories under /mnt to mount these
partitions on; for example:

mnt]# mkdir hda1

to mount the drive from the command line, just type, for instance:

]# mount /dev/hda1 /mnt/hda1

To really configure it you have to edit lines in the /etc/fstab file;
you'll only need to know the filesystem, it's very easy. Whenever you
are in doubt about a command type "man commandsname" and it'll help you.


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Re: HELP!!

[Zoran's mailinglist account]

Le 25/07/2003 00:42, « Benjamin J. Weiss » <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> a écrit :

> I haven't read any X documentation.  I have just tried to figure it out


*** Don't worry we understood that. ;-) Hal's question was crafted with a
lot of care...

At the same time his question gives you and a lot of others a vigorous
reminder: Read the doc before asking a question...



>> Which X documentation have you read that did not have this? Just
>> curious ...

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RE: HELP ON ETH0 CONFIG

[Chris Johnston]

Hello Brett;

Thanks a lot for the help on this issue.

The cure to the problem is...  Instead of hand-rolling my own
ifcfg-eth0:x files, I used the GUI.  Oddly enough this works.  The only
real difference I can see from A to B was that the subinterface files
had a LOT more detail to them.  More than I would have placed myself.

Another thing I did observe was when I would use the -route- command I
could see all sorts of default gateway entires.  Weird.  But now I see
one and only one.  Which is more what I expected.

So much for being such a command-line bigot.

Chris Johnston
714-306-5746
949-653-8819 (fax)

 Cannot find REALITY.SYS. Universe halted.
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Sent: Friday, July 25, 2003 8:02 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: HELP ON ETH0 CONFIG


On Fri, 2003-07-25 at 02:32, Chris Johnston wrote:
> Hello there;
> 
> I have just upgraded to RedHat 9.  I have a base interface eth0 and 5 
> sub-interfaces (eth0:1, eth0:2, etc...) So laet's say it looks like
> this:
> 
> eth0: 192.168.49.70   
> eth0:1192.168.49.71
> eth0:2192.168.49.72
> eth0:3192.168.49.73
> eth0:4192.168.49.74
> eth0:10   192.168.49.60
> 
> I can indeed connect to all ip addresses.  This is not a problem.
> 
> When using sendmail it always sends on eth0 since this address is 
> configured in my hosts file to reflect that machines name.
> 
> The problem is when I make outbound ip connections, the connections 
> seem to originate from eth0:10 (as shown above) for services that are 
> not specifically hostname bound such as: telnet, ssh, ftp.
> 
> My problem is, I have one machine with a static IP address.  I have 
> hundreds of routers I support with a specific IP address allowed on 
> the incoming access list.  If I do not come from 192.168.49.70 or it's

> publicly translated address, I am screwed.
> 

FWIW I have seen questions about this previously but have not sen any
answers.  Perhaps it was you I don't  know.  try the archives at
marc.theaimsgroup.com.  They archive the linux-net list 

In fact take a look at this and see if it is pointing in the right
direction.

 http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=linux-net&m=104930510428818&w=2

IF no luck try the linux-net list.  A couple of years ago a lot of the
coders working on the networking code were there.

HTH 

Bret




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Re: Help! How to restore glibc on a broken system?

[Tom Pollerman]

On Sat, 26 Jul 2003 02:18:48 +0200
Michael Schwendt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

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> On Fri, 25 Jul 2003 18:42:01 -0400, Tom Pollerman wrote:
> 
> > > No, mc fails if rpm is broken. See /usr/share/mc/extfs/rpm
> > > 
> >   I apologize, if that is indeed the fact. 
> >   My version of Midnight Commander (mc-4.5.51) makes no mention of
> > needing a working rpm in the documentation (no
> > /usr/share/mc/extfs/rpm file.) My documentation does say that
> > there is an older 'text version' and a newer 'Gnome-version'
> > though. Mine doesn't need X11; I use it from console all the time
> > to look into .rpms and tar'ed or gzip'ed files.
> > 
> > # rpm -q -R mc
> > 
> > does show that mc requires rpmlib. 
> > 
> >   Is it possible have an intact rpmlib and a broken rpm?
> >   Thanks for the input.  
> 
> $ rpm -q mc
> mc-4.6.0-4
> 
> $ rpm -ql mc | grep rpm
> /usr/share/mc/extfs/rpm
> /usr/share/mc/extfs/rpms
> /usr/share/mc/extfs/trpm
> 
> I refer to the terminal-mode mc as shipped with Red Hat Linux 9.
> And in the following, it is Red Hat Linux 7.3:
> 
> $ rpm -q mc
> mc-4.5.55-5
> 
> $ rpm -ql mc | grep rpm
> /usr/lib/mc/extfs/rpm
> /usr/lib/mc/extfs/rpms
> /usr/lib/mc/extfs/trpm
> 
> Seems, with your 4.5.51 version you may need to look in
> /usr/lib/mc/extfs.
> 
  Thank you! A quick look at the /usr/lib/mc/extfs/rpm script clearly
shows that a working rpm is necessary for mc to install or upgrade a
.rpm archieve.
   I did a quick install of Xrally, from the .rpm, file, using the mc
'install' script. Then:

[EMAIL PROTECTED] /root]# rpm -q xrally
xrally-1.0.pre1-1 

I'm convinced ;)
 Thanks again.

   Best,

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Re: Help! How to restore glibc on a broken system?

[Michael Schwendt]

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On Fri, 25 Jul 2003 18:42:01 -0400, Tom Pollerman wrote:

> > No, mc fails if rpm is broken. See /usr/share/mc/extfs/rpm
> > 
>   I apologize, if that is indeed the fact. 
>   My version of Midnight Commander (mc-4.5.51) makes no mention of
> needing a working rpm in the documentation (no /usr/share/mc/extfs/rpm
> file.) My documentation does say that there is an older 'text version'
> and a newer 'Gnome-version' though. Mine doesn't need X11; I use it
> from console all the time to look into .rpms and tar'ed or gzip'ed
> files.
> 
> # rpm -q -R mc
> 
> does show that mc requires rpmlib. 
> 
>   Is it possible have an intact rpmlib and a broken rpm?
>   Thanks for the input.  

$ rpm -q mc
mc-4.6.0-4

$ rpm -ql mc | grep rpm
/usr/share/mc/extfs/rpm
/usr/share/mc/extfs/rpms
/usr/share/mc/extfs/trpm

I refer to the terminal-mode mc as shipped with Red Hat Linux 9.
And in the following, it is Red Hat Linux 7.3:

$ rpm -q mc
mc-4.5.55-5

$ rpm -ql mc | grep rpm
/usr/lib/mc/extfs/rpm
/usr/lib/mc/extfs/rpms
/usr/lib/mc/extfs/trpm

Seems, with your 4.5.51 version you may need to look in /usr/lib/mc/extfs.

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Re: Help! How to restore glibc on a broken system?

[Tom Pollerman]

On Fri, 25 Jul 2003 23:31:50 +0200
Michael Schwendt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

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> On Fri, 25 Jul 2003 15:37:35 -0400, Tom Pollerman wrote:
> 
> > Might Midnight Commander:
> > 
> >   /usr/bin/mc
> > 
> > be able to do the install? I see where mc displays the files
> > inside a.rpm (including CONTENTS.cpio), and also gives an
> > "install" and an"upgrade" executable. You just highlight the RPM
> > file in Midnight Commander and . 
> 
> No, mc fails if rpm is broken. See /usr/share/mc/extfs/rpm
> 
  I apologize, if that is indeed the fact. 
  My version of Midnight Commander (mc-4.5.51) makes no mention of
needing a working rpm in the documentation (no /usr/share/mc/extfs/rpm
file.) My documentation does say that there is an older 'text version'
and a newer 'Gnome-version' though. Mine doesn't need X11; I use it
from console all the time to look into .rpms and tar'ed or gzip'ed
files.

# rpm -q -R mc

does show that mc requires rpmlib. 

  Is it possible have an intact rpmlib and a broken rpm?
  Thanks for the input.  
  
  

 Best,

 Tom


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Re: Help! How to restore glibc on a broken system?

[Michael Schwendt]

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On Fri, 25 Jul 2003 23:14:09 +0200, Olivier Dony wrote:

> Now I have gathered all the relevant rpms I would use to restore the
> system to the old state, ie :
> 
> binutils-2.11.90.0.8-12.i386.rpm
> glibc-2.2.4-32.i386.rpm
> glibc-common-2.2.4-32.i386.rpm
> glibc-devel-2.2.4-32.i386.rpm

Why a i386 glibc? Is your machine an i386 or i486?

Most likely your machine is i686 compatible, and hence you should
take the i686 glibc package to avoid glibc breakage.

> RPM agrees to prepare the job with this list of packages so there 
> must be no conflicts. If only it didn't segfault just after that.
> Another weird thing is this :
>   # ldd /bin/rpm   
>   not a dynamic executable

It's statically linked.

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Re: Help! How to restore glibc on a broken system?

[Michael Schwendt]

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On Fri, 25 Jul 2003 15:37:35 -0400, Tom Pollerman wrote:

> Might Midnight Commander:
> 
>   /usr/bin/mc
> 
> be able to do the install? I see where mc displays the files inside a
> .rpm (including CONTENTS.cpio), and also gives an "install" and an
> "upgrade" executable. You just highlight the RPM file in Midnight
> Commander and . 

No, mc fails if rpm is broken. See /usr/share/mc/extfs/rpm

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Re: Help! How to restore glibc on a broken system?

[Olivier Dony]

On Friday, 25 July, 2003, Tom Pollerman wrote:
> > "man cpio" *grin*  cpio is not specific to Red Hat Linux. ;)

Hehe Michael you're right of course, my bad. I don't know why my
twisted  mind thought there might be anything specific to the 
output of rpm2cpio ;)

> > Really, rpm2cpio gives you access to a cpio archive inside the rpm.
> > Try something like
> > 
> >   mkdir test ; cd test
> >   rpm2cpio glibc-2.3.2-27.9.i686.rpm | cpio -id
> >   --no-absolute-filenames
> > 
> > to extract the files inside. You could also extract them within your
> > top-level directory and overwrite what's installed.

Ok I have tested it and it works perfectly, even doing the symlinks.
Now I have gathered all the relevant rpms I would use to restore the
system to the old state, ie :

binutils-2.11.90.0.8-12.i386.rpm
glibc-2.2.4-32.i386.rpm
glibc-common-2.2.4-32.i386.rpm
glibc-devel-2.2.4-32.i386.rpm

RPM agrees to prepare the job with this list of packages so there 
must be no conflicts. If only it didn't segfault just after that.
Another weird thing is this :
  # ldd /bin/rpm   
  not a dynamic executable

So I don't see how RPM is affected by all this...

Anyway I am ready to fire 'rpm2cpio /tmp/*.rpm | cpio -idv' in the
root directory with those 4 rpms, but I am a bit afraid. Most utils
are linked to one of the libs that will be replaced by this command,
including rpm2cpio and cpio themselves. Is there a chance everything
might break even more in the process of cpio'ing the 4 packages? I
suppose I have no other choice so I will eventually have to do.

I know I might sound over-careful but since the rest of the system
is still working I cannot risk to break ssh, qmail, apache, ncftpd
who are still mostly fine...

> Might Midnight Commander:
> 
>   /usr/bin/mc
> 
> be able to do the install? I see where mc displays the files inside a
> .rpm (including CONTENTS.cpio), and also gives an "install" and an
> "upgrade" executable. You just highlight the RPM file in Midnight
> Commander and . 
>   Perhaps you can get the 'proper' glibc RPM to the remote stystem and
> then fix it in that manner. You could make a "test" install of some
> other .rpm, perhaps a game, just to see how it works.

Thanks for the idea Tom :-) The problem is that mc is not installed
yet and it requires many other libraires, including X11, which 
are not installed either. I have tried to install the mc package 
using cpio, but the lack of librairies makes it useless ;-) 
Also I need to install 4 RPM packages at once, which I am not sure mc
would allow me to do. It might even simply launch the RPM system and
I would be stopped for the same reason.

Thank you a ton again everyone who is trying to help me :-)

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Re: Help! How to restore glibc on a broken system?

[Tom Pollerman]

On Fri, 25 Jul 2003 20:06:14 +0200
Michael Schwendt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

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> On Fri, 25 Jul 2003 19:14:03 +0200, Olivier Dony wrote:
> 
> > On Friday, 25 July, 2003 17:57, Jonathan Bartlett wrote:
> > > I think you're stuck with rpm2cpio.  Alternatively, you could
> > > build RPM statically on your machine, but my guess is that
> > > rpm2cpio would be easier.
> > 
> > Ah yes but I have no idea as to how I can use rpm2cpio to bypass
> > rpm and install a package. Can you explain this a bit, I am very
> > new to redhat. (this is on RH7.2- Enigma)
> 
> "man cpio" *grin*  cpio is not specific to Red Hat Linux. ;)
> 
> Really, rpm2cpio gives you access to a cpio archive inside the rpm.
> Try something like
> 
>   mkdir test ; cd test
>   rpm2cpio glibc-2.3.2-27.9.i686.rpm | cpio -id
>   --no-absolute-filenames
> 
> to extract the files inside. You could also extract them within your
> top-level directory and overwrite what's installed.
> 
Might Midnight Commander:

  /usr/bin/mc

be able to do the install? I see where mc displays the files inside a
.rpm (including CONTENTS.cpio), and also gives an "install" and an
"upgrade" executable. You just highlight the RPM file in Midnight
Commander and . 
  Perhaps you can get the 'proper' glibc RPM to the remote stystem and
then fix it in that manner. You could make a "test" install of some
other .rpm, perhaps a game, just to see how it works.

 Regards,

  Tom


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Re: Help! How to restore glibc on a broken system?

[Michael Schwendt]

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On Fri, 25 Jul 2003 19:14:03 +0200, Olivier Dony wrote:

> On Friday, 25 July, 2003 17:57, Jonathan Bartlett wrote:
> > I think you're stuck with rpm2cpio.  Alternatively, you could build RPM
> > statically on your machine, but my guess is that rpm2cpio would be easier.
> 
> Ah yes but I have no idea as to how I can use rpm2cpio to bypass
> rpm and install a package. Can you explain this a bit, I am very
> new to redhat. (this is on RH7.2- Enigma)

"man cpio" *grin*  cpio is not specific to Red Hat Linux. ;)

Really, rpm2cpio gives you access to a cpio archive inside the rpm.
Try something like

  mkdir test ; cd test
  rpm2cpio glibc-2.3.2-27.9.i686.rpm | cpio -id --no-absolute-filenames

to extract the files inside. You could also extract them within your
top-level directory and overwrite what's installed.

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Re: Help! How to restore glibc on a broken system?

[Jonathan Bartlett]

>
> Ah yes but I have no idea as to how I can use rpm2cpio to bypass
> rpm and install a package. Can you explain this a bit, I am very
> new to redhat. (this is on RH7.2- Enigma)
>

I've never used cpio either.  I just know it exists.

> Ah that sounds like a great idea too, how can I easily see what RPM
> links to? I guess I could look at the source but I'm sure there must
> be some command to find out easily?

ldd /bin/ls

You may also need to do the same with the .so files it mentions.  Remember
that ldd requires the FULL path name.

Jon

>
> > Do like:
> >
> > LD_PRELOAD=/home/tmplib/myownglibc.so:/home/tmplib/whateverelselibineed.so
> >
> > and use those while you are upgrading.  Try it and see if it works.
>
> Ok I understand this, I just need to find out what libraries I must build
> and how I can build them. ;-)
>
> Thank you a lot for your answers!
>
> Olivier the redhat newbie
>
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Re: Help! How to restore glibc on a broken system?

[Olivier Dony]

On Friday, 25 July, 2003 17:57, Jonathan Bartlett wrote:
> I think you're stuck with rpm2cpio.  Alternatively, you could build RPM
> statically on your machine, but my guess is that rpm2cpio would be easier.

Ah yes but I have no idea as to how I can use rpm2cpio to bypass
rpm and install a package. Can you explain this a bit, I am very
new to redhat. (this is on RH7.2- Enigma)

> Another possibility is to see what RPM links to, and upload your own
> versions of those into like /home/tmplib, and preload them.

Ah that sounds like a great idea too, how can I easily see what RPM
links to? I guess I could look at the source but I'm sure there must
be some command to find out easily?

> Do like:
> 
> LD_PRELOAD=/home/tmplib/myownglibc.so:/home/tmplib/whateverelselibineed.so
> 
> and use those while you are upgrading.  Try it and see if it works.

Ok I understand this, I just need to find out what libraries I must build
and how I can build them. ;-)

Thank you a lot for your answers!

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RE: Help --need to increase swap partition on RH9 {solved}

[James D. Parra]

Upon reboot, both swap areas will be used. First, the swap partition read
from /etc/fstab and afterwards the swapfile from the "swapon swapfile"
command issued from /etc/rc.d/rc.local.  Run "top" and you'll see the total
of both swaps.

James


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Will it use the actual swap partition or only one 
of them ?? just a question ??
or should it use both and the new swap would be more
or would it waste the swap partition ???



Hiten.

--- "James D. Parra" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Thanks. This worked out well.
> 
> I added "swapon swapfile" to /etc/rc.d/rc.local
> 
> James 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Leonard den Ottolander [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2003 2:05 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: Help --need to increase swap partition on RH9
> 
> 
> Hi James,
> 
> > How can I increase the swap size on production system? We added
> more RAM
> > and I need to increase the swap space.
> 
>  You could run parted and resize the partition that way. You will
> need 
> to reboot/reinit the machine in that case. Another option is to
> create 
> a swapfile on a partition that has enough space left. In the case you
> 
> use /home for this the procedure would be:
> 
> # dd if=/dev/zero of=/home/swapfile bs=1k count=Xk
> # mkswap -f /home/swapfile
> # swapon /home/swapfile
> 

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Re: Help! How to restore glibc on a broken system?

[Jonathan Bartlett]

I think you're stuck with rpm2cpio.  Alternatively, you could build RPM
statically on your machine, but my guess is that rpm2cpio would be easier.

Another possibility is to see what RPM links to, and upload your own
versions of those into like /home/tmplib, and preload them.

Do like:

LD_PRELOAD=/home/tmplib/myownglibc.so:/home/tmplib/whateverelselibineed.so

and use those while you are upgrading.  Try it and see if it works.

Jon

On Fri, 25 Jul 2003, Olivier Dony wrote:

> On Friday, 25 July, 2003 17:36, Jonathan Bartlett wrote:
> > On Fri, 25 Jul 2003, Olivier Dony wrote:
> > > On Friday, 25 July, 2003 16:50 Michael Schwendt wrote:
> > > > > In my case this is a remote server on which I have only
> > > > > ssh access, and thus no option of using a CD. I think
> 
> > > > > I need a solution to replace this broken glibc with the
> > > > > original one coming with RedHat 7.2, but using only basic
> > > > > things I can download.
>
> [snip]
>
> [moved from top-post] :
>
> > I think if you go from a Red Hat rescue disk, RPM will do fine, you just
> > have to use the chroot option of RPM.
>
> Yes I think it would be the solution but unfortunately I
> have only ssh access to the box, which is at hundreds of
> kilometers away, and I don't even think the cdrom drive
> is still inside, it was probably unmounted after the
> installation. So I am really looking for a solution using
> only packages and stuff I can download from the web, and
> not directlt via rpm because it is broken.
>
> Thanks for your comment anyway, I'm lost so anything is
> useful :)
>
> Olivier
>
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Re: Help! How to restore glibc on a broken system?

[Olivier Dony]

On Friday, 25 July, 2003 17:36, Jonathan Bartlett wrote:
> On Fri, 25 Jul 2003, Olivier Dony wrote:
> > On Friday, 25 July, 2003 16:50 Michael Schwendt wrote:
> > > > In my case this is a remote server on which I have only
> > > > ssh access, and thus no option of using a CD. I think

> > > > I need a solution to replace this broken glibc with the
> > > > original one coming with RedHat 7.2, but using only basic
> > > > things I can download. 

[snip]

[moved from top-post] :

> I think if you go from a Red Hat rescue disk, RPM will do fine, you just
> have to use the chroot option of RPM.

Yes I think it would be the solution but unfortunately I
have only ssh access to the box, which is at hundreds of
kilometers away, and I don't even think the cdrom drive
is still inside, it was probably unmounted after the 
installation. So I am really looking for a solution using
only packages and stuff I can download from the web, and
not directlt via rpm because it is broken.

Thanks for your comment anyway, I'm lost so anything is
useful :)

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Re: Help! How to restore glibc on a broken system?

[Jonathan Bartlett]

I think if you go from a Red Hat rescue disk, RPM will do fine, you just
have to use the chroot option of RPM.

Jon

On Fri, 25 Jul 2003, Olivier Dony wrote:

> On Friday, 25 July, 2003 16:50 Michael Schwendt wrote:
> > > In my case this is a remote server on which I have only
> > > ssh access, and thus no option of using a CD. I think
> > > I need a solution to replace this broken glibc with the
> > > original one coming with RedHat 7.2, but using only basic
> > > things I can download.
> > >
> > > I guess what I'm trying to do is manually do what
> > > rpm -Uvh -oldpackage glibc-*-2.2.4-32.i386.rpm
> > > would accomplish. But I have no idea where to begin.
> >
> > If rpm still works, rpm -ivh --force glibc*.i686.rpm
> > glibc-common*.i386.rpm should be fine.
> >
> > What other tools do still work? rpm2cpio maybe?
>
> Rpm doesn't work anymore, or at least segfaults after the
> "preparing" stage whenever I try to rpm -Uvh or rpm -ivh,
> whatever package I choose.
> As for other commands I am not sure. rpm2cpio seems to
> work, or at least I can issue something like
>rpm2cpio glibc-common-2.2.4-32.i386.rpm  > test
> and I get a big file test. Can I use this to restore the
> older glibc2.2.4 on my system without using the rpm command
> itself?
>
> The problem comes in the first place because I used
> option -nodeps of rpm to force the install of glibc-2.3.2-57,
> which wouldn't work because of a weird dependency problem
> with glibc-common-2.3.2-57 :
>   rpmlib(PartialHardlinkSets) <= 4.0.4-1
> I'm not sure if I used the i686 or i386 version of glibc
> when I issued this dreaded command, and I can see I have
> both version of the package in the directory :/
>
> Thanks a lot for your help!
>
> Olivier
>
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Re: Help! How to restore glibc on a broken system?

[Olivier Dony]

On Friday, 25 July, 2003 16:50 Michael Schwendt wrote:
> > In my case this is a remote server on which I have only
> > ssh access, and thus no option of using a CD. I think
> > I need a solution to replace this broken glibc with the
> > original one coming with RedHat 7.2, but using only basic
> > things I can download.
> > 
> > I guess what I'm trying to do is manually do what 
> > rpm -Uvh -oldpackage glibc-*-2.2.4-32.i386.rpm
> > would accomplish. But I have no idea where to begin.
> 
> If rpm still works, rpm -ivh --force glibc*.i686.rpm
> glibc-common*.i386.rpm should be fine.
> 
> What other tools do still work? rpm2cpio maybe?

Rpm doesn't work anymore, or at least segfaults after the 
"preparing" stage whenever I try to rpm -Uvh or rpm -ivh,
whatever package I choose.
As for other commands I am not sure. rpm2cpio seems to 
work, or at least I can issue something like
   rpm2cpio glibc-common-2.2.4-32.i386.rpm  > test
and I get a big file test. Can I use this to restore the
older glibc2.2.4 on my system without using the rpm command
itself? 

The problem comes in the first place because I used
option -nodeps of rpm to force the install of glibc-2.3.2-57,
which wouldn't work because of a weird dependency problem
with glibc-common-2.3.2-57 : 
  rpmlib(PartialHardlinkSets) <= 4.0.4-1
I'm not sure if I used the i686 or i386 version of glibc
when I issued this dreaded command, and I can see I have
both version of the package in the directory :/

Thanks a lot for your help!

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Re: HELP ON ETH0 CONFIG

[Bret Hughes]

On Fri, 2003-07-25 at 02:32, Chris Johnston wrote:
> Hello there;
> 
> I have just upgraded to RedHat 9.  I have a base interface eth0 and 5
> sub-interfaces (eth0:1, eth0:2, etc...) So laet's say it looks like
> this:
> 
> eth0: 192.168.49.70   
> eth0:1192.168.49.71
> eth0:2192.168.49.72
> eth0:3192.168.49.73
> eth0:4192.168.49.74
> eth0:10   192.168.49.60
> 
> I can indeed connect to all ip addresses.  This is not a problem.
> 
> When using sendmail it always sends on eth0 since this address is
> configured in my hosts file to reflect that machines name.
> 
> The problem is when I make outbound ip connections, the connections seem
> to originate from eth0:10 (as shown above) for services that are not
> specifically hostname bound such as: telnet, ssh, ftp. 
> 
> My problem is, I have one machine with a static IP address.  I have
> hundreds of routers I support with a specific IP address allowed on the
> incoming access list.  If I do not come from 192.168.49.70 or it's
> publicly translated address, I am screwed.
> 

FWIW I have seen questions about this previously but have not sen any
answers.  Perhaps it was you I don't  know.  try the archives at
marc.theaimsgroup.com.  They archive the linux-net list 

In fact take a look at this and see if it is pointing in the right
direction.

 http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=linux-net&m=104930510428818&w=2

IF no luck try the linux-net list.  A couple of years ago a lot of the
coders working on the networking code were there.

HTH 

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Re: Help! How to restore glibc on a broken system?

[Michael Schwendt]

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On Fri, 25 Jul 2003 00:26:40 +0200, Olivier Dony wrote:

> In my case this is a remote server on which I have only
> ssh access, and thus no option of using a CD. I think
> I need a solution to replace this broken glibc with the
> original one coming with RedHat 7.2, but using only basic
> things I can download.
> 
> I guess what I'm trying to do is manually do what 
> rpm -Uvh -oldpackage glibc-*-2.2.4-32.i386.rpm
> would accomplish. But I have no idea where to begin.

If rpm still works, rpm -ivh --force glibc*.i686.rpm
glibc-common*.i386.rpm should be fine.

What other tools do still work? rpm2cpio maybe?

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RE: Help --need to increase swap partition on RH9 {solved}

[Hiten Desai]

Will it use the actual swap partition or only one 
of them ?? just a question ??
or should it use both and the new swap would be more
or would it waste the swap partition ???



Hiten.

--- "James D. Parra" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Thanks. This worked out well.
> 
> I added "swapon swapfile" to /etc/rc.d/rc.local
> 
> James 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Leonard den Ottolander [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2003 2:05 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: Help --need to increase swap partition on RH9
> 
> 
> Hi James,
> 
> > How can I increase the swap size on production system? We added
> more RAM
> > and I need to increase the swap space.
> 
>  You could run parted and resize the partition that way. You will
> need 
> to reboot/reinit the machine in that case. Another option is to
> create 
> a swapfile on a partition that has enough space left. In the case you
> 
> use /home for this the procedure would be:
> 
> # dd if=/dev/zero of=/home/swapfile bs=1k count=Xk
> # mkswap -f /home/swapfile
> # swapon /home/swapfile
> 

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Re: Help! How to restore glibc on a broken system?

[Olivier Dony]

On Friday, 25 July, 2003 02:29, David Demner wrote:
> (snip)
> I remember pretty much everything on my machine was hooped, including ls, rpm, 
> etc...  
> So you probably will need physical access to the box with a recover disk/cd.  

Well I suppose I can consider myself lucky then, since almost everything
seems to be still running fine, except mainly the rpm system :)

> (snip)
> Well, I guess you could check out 
> 
> http://www.redhat.com/swr/i686/glibc-2.3.2-27.9.i686_fl.html
> 
> which at least lists all the files that rpm would install for you.  Maybe you can
> get a non-rpm version of glibc (like from http://ftp.gnu.org/gnu/glibc/), unpack 
> them into a directory (assuming tar/gzip/bzip still work) and read the INSTALL 
> doc...  That may help.

Aah that's a really helpful link. I'll try to do this then. Actually I
had downloaded the source rpm for the old glibc(2.2.4), and read and 
applied the INSTALL file that came with it. The 'make' went fine, but I
was a little scared to do a 'make install' with this stuff. I didn't want
to destroy what still worked, especially since that source came with a lot
of patches that I am not sure how and if they can be applied.

But now I can maybe look at the differences beetween the contents of the
2 versions of the rpms and replace the files one by one with the ones I
obtained from the SRPM I compiled manually, and see what works and what 
doesn't. Or maybe this will break everything by creating inconsistencies
within the library files... and I should use make install.

> (snip)
> Probably related to the glibc problem, but probably not because of the messed up 
> upgrade.  
> There was a patch to qmail that changed the reference to errno, which was changed in 
> updated versions of glibc:
> 
> http://article.gmane.org/gmane.mail.qmail.general/13960
> 
> and it's probably this.  Apply the patch (I actually had to update qmail by changing
> the qmail code manually since the patch didn't work), recompile, and hopefully the 
> error will go away.

Ah yes I read something about it, and since this upgrade took my glibc from
2.2.4 to 2.3.2 I suppose it could have triggered this bug. I'll look into
fixing this later, thank you for the link.

Thanks a lot again, I'll try to carefully find a way to cure my
poor system with this info ;-)

Olivier


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RE: Help! How to restore glibc on a broken system?

[David Demner]

> On Thursday, 24 July, 2003 22:45, David Demner wrote:
> > A number of people (including me) had this problem.
> > 
> > --- Original reponse thanks to Michael Fratoni ---
> > Did you perhaps 'upgrade' to glibc*.i386.rpm on an i686 system?
> > If so, have a look here for possible fixes:
> > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=88456
> > --- Thanks again to Michael Fratoni ---
> > 
> > Step #15 has instructions on how to restore an affected system.
> 
> Thanks a lot for your link. I have scanned the answers there 
> but it seems that at least #15 has to be done using a linux
> recover CD or something similar. 

I remember pretty much everything on my machine was hooped, including ls, rpm, etc...  
So you probably will need physical access to the box with a recover disk/cd.  

> 
> In my case this is a remote server on which I have only
> ssh access, and thus no option of using a CD. I think
> I need a solution to replace this broken glibc with the
> original one coming with RedHat 7.2, but using only basic
> things I can download.
> 
> I guess what I'm trying to do is manually do what 
> rpm -Uvh -oldpackage glibc-*-2.2.4-32.i386.rpm
> would accomplish. But I have no idea where to begin.
> 

Well, I guess you could check out 

http://www.redhat.com/swr/i686/glibc-2.3.2-27.9.i686_fl.html

which at least lists all the files that rpm would install for you.  Maybe you can
get a non-rpm version of glibc (like from http://ftp.gnu.org/gnu/glibc/), unpack 
them into a directory (assuming tar/gzip/bzip still work) and read the INSTALL 
doc...  That may help.


> Olivier
> 
> 
> PS: Now I have noticed that qmail is generating lots of
> message like :
> 
> "Incorrectly built binary which accesses errno, h_errno or 
>  _res directly. Needs to be fixed."
> 
> I suppose this is related to the glibc change, although I
> didn't see any dependencies preventing me to do it, and
> certainly not qmail, except the weird 
> 'rpmlib(PartialHardlinkSets) <= 4.0.4-1', which is why I
> used --nodeps in the first place.
> 

Probably related to the glibc problem, but probably not because of the messed up 
upgrade.  
There was a patch to qmail that changed the reference to errno, which was changed in 
updated versions of glibc:

http://article.gmane.org/gmane.mail.qmail.general/13960

and it's probably this.  Apply the patch (I actually had to update qmail by changing
the qmail code manually since the patch didn't work), recompile, and hopefully the 
error will go away.

Good luck,

David


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Re: Help! How to restore glibc on a broken system?

[Gordon Messmer]

Aeryn wrote:
Now, I would like to upgrade to the glibc 2.3 version.  I have been told to
use the:
glibc-2.3.2-27.9.i686.rpm
glibc-common-2.3.2-27.9.i386.rpm
glibc-debug-2.3.2-27.9.i386.rpm
glibc-devel-2.3.2-27.9.i386.rpm
glibc-profile-2.3.2-27.9.i386.rpm
glibc-utils-2.3.2-27.9.i386.rpm


That set of packages should be fine.  You don't need to install any that 
aren't on your system already, so either remove glibc-debug, 
glibc-profile, and glibc-utils, or upgrade using:

rpm -Fvh glibc*.rpm

I mean, I don't remember it last summer being so difficult to upgrade the
glibc (ok, I am a little rusty with my linux...it has been a while)


In the past, the i386 and i686 packages didn't have feature sets that 
varied the way that these packages do.



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Re: HELP!!

[Benjamin J. Weiss]

I haven't read any X documentation.  I have just tried to figure it out
on my own.  And, to be truthful, I don't use it a whole lot, I do mostly
command line stuff on my linux boxes, though I'm trying to soak up more
stuff. :)

Ben
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Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2003 3:22 PM
Subject: Re: HELP!!


> On Thu, Jul 24, 2003 at 08:54:37AM -0500, Benjamin J. Weiss wrote:
> >
> > I've seen a bunch of "CTRL-ALT-??" posts to this question, and I've
> > never seen them before.  Is there a doc that explains all of the key
> > combinations available?
>
> Which X documentation have you read that did not have this? Just
> curious ...
>
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RE: Help --need to increase swap partition on RH9 {solved}

[James D. Parra]

Thanks. This worked out well.

I added "swapon swapfile" to /etc/rc.d/rc.local

James 

-Original Message-
From: Leonard den Ottolander [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2003 2:05 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Help --need to increase swap partition on RH9


Hi James,

> How can I increase the swap size on production system? We added more RAM
> and I need to increase the swap space.

 You could run parted and resize the partition that way. You will need 
to reboot/reinit the machine in that case. Another option is to create 
a swapfile on a partition that has enough space left. In the case you 
use /home for this the procedure would be:

# dd if=/dev/zero of=/home/swapfile bs=1k count=Xk
# mkswap -f /home/swapfile
# swapon /home/swapfile

 Dont forget to add /home/swapfile to /etc/fstab. Using /home might not 
be the best option from a security standpoint, but it is probably the 
partition with the most free space left...

Bye,
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Re: Help! How to restore glibc on a broken system?

[Olivier Dony]

On Thursday, 24 July, 2003 22:45, David Demner wrote:
> A number of people (including me) had this problem.
> 
> --- Original reponse thanks to Michael Fratoni ---
> Did you perhaps 'upgrade' to glibc*.i386.rpm on an i686 system?
> If so, have a look here for possible fixes:
> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=88456
> --- Thanks again to Michael Fratoni ---
> 
> Step #15 has instructions on how to restore an affected system.

Thanks a lot for your link. I have scanned the answers there 
but it seems that at least #15 has to be done using a linux
recover CD or something similar. 

In my case this is a remote server on which I have only
ssh access, and thus no option of using a CD. I think
I need a solution to replace this broken glibc with the
original one coming with RedHat 7.2, but using only basic
things I can download.

I guess what I'm trying to do is manually do what 
rpm -Uvh -oldpackage glibc-*-2.2.4-32.i386.rpm
would accomplish. But I have no idea where to begin.

Olivier


PS: Now I have noticed that qmail is generating lots of
message like :

"Incorrectly built binary which accesses errno, h_errno or 
 _res directly. Needs to be fixed."

I suppose this is related to the glibc change, although I
didn't see any dependencies preventing me to do it, and
certainly not qmail, except the weird 
'rpmlib(PartialHardlinkSets) <= 4.0.4-1', which is why I
used --nodeps in the first place.


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Re: Help! How to restore glibc on a broken system?

[Aeryn]

Ug, now I am really confused...more like wary of upgrading glibc.  Here is
what my systems has on it.

kernel2.4.18i686
glibc2.2.5i686
rpm4.0.4i386
glibc-devel2.2.5i386
glibc-common2.2.5i386

Now, I would like to upgrade to the glibc 2.3 version.  I have been told to
use the:

glibc-2.3.2-27.9.i686.rpm
glibc-common-2.3.2-27.9.i386.rpm
glibc-debug-2.3.2-27.9.i386.rpm
glibc-devel-2.3.2-27.9.i386.rpm
glibc-profile-2.3.2-27.9.i386.rpm
glibc-utils-2.3.2-27.9.i386.rpm


According to that bugzilla thread, there will be problems...or will there
not be problems? Do I have the right files? Do I need to update the rpm
version as well?  Lots of confusion..

I mean, I don't remember it last summer being so difficult to upgrade the
glibc (ok, I am a little rusty with my linux...it has been a while)

Please, if someone can clarify the situation for me...and apparently quite a
few other people, that would be great.

Gracias,
A



On 7/24/03 4:45 PM, "David Demner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> A number of people (including me) had this problem.
> 
> --- Original reponse thanks to Michael Fratoni ---
> Did you perhaps 'upgrade' to glibc*.i386.rpm on an i686 system?
> If so, have a look here for possible fixes:
> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=88456
> --- Thanks again to Michael Fratoni ---
> 
> Step #15 has instructions on how to restore an affected system.
> 
> Good luck,
> 
> David
> 


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Re: Help --need to increase swap partition on RH9

[Leonard den Ottolander]

Hi James,

> How can I increase the swap size on production system? We added more RAM
> and I need to increase the swap space.

 You could run parted and resize the partition that way. You will need 
to reboot/reinit the machine in that case. Another option is to create 
a swapfile on a partition that has enough space left. In the case you 
use /home for this the procedure would be:

# dd if=/dev/zero of=/home/swapfile bs=1k count=Xk
# mkswap -f /home/swapfile
# swapon /home/swapfile

 Dont forget to add /home/swapfile to /etc/fstab. Using /home might not 
be the best option from a security standpoint, but it is probably the 
partition with the most free space left...

Bye,
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Re: Help --need to increase swap partition on RH9

[Javier Gostling]

On Thu, Jul 24, 2003 at 01:32:25PM -0700, James D. Parra wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> How can I increase the swap size on production system? We added more RAM and
> I need to increase the swap space.

Most likely, you don't need to increase swap space. The 2:1 swap/rap ratio is
just a thumb rule, and need not be followed strictly. Now if you really want to
increase swap space, the easiest path is to just add a second swap partition.
Linux will spread swap usage among all active swap areas.

Cheers,
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Re: Help --need to increase swap partition on RH9

[Rick Warner]

On Thu, 2003-07-24 at 13:32, James D. Parra wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> How can I increase the swap size on production system? We added more RAM and
> I need to increase the swap space.
> 

Unless you left space adjacent to the swap partition on the disk, you 
cannot increase its size, unless you use something like Partition Magic
to adjust sizes of the partitions on the disk.

But there are two options depending on your
partitioning scheme and/or free space on other partitions:

1)  Add another swap partition if there is un-partitioned space 
2)  Add a swap file on an existing partition.

man mkswap

will give you the details.

- rick warner


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RE: Help! How to restore glibc on a broken system?

[David Demner]

A number of people (including me) had this problem.

--- Original reponse thanks to Michael Fratoni ---
Did you perhaps 'upgrade' to glibc*.i386.rpm on an i686 system?
If so, have a look here for possible fixes:
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=88456
--- Thanks again to Michael Fratoni ---

Step #15 has instructions on how to restore an affected system.

Good luck,

David


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Re: HELP!!

[Hal Burgiss]

On Thu, Jul 24, 2003 at 08:54:37AM -0500, Benjamin J. Weiss wrote:
> 
> I've seen a bunch of "CTRL-ALT-??" posts to this question, and I've
> never seen them before.  Is there a doc that explains all of the key
> combinations available?

Which X documentation have you read that did not have this? Just
curious ... 

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Re: HELP!!

[Gary Stainburn]

On Thursday 24 Jul 2003 2:54 pm, Benjamin J. Weiss wrote:
> > "CTRL+ALT+F7"
> >
> > dlangschied a écrit :
> > > Thanks this helped alot.  One further question:  Once I am in
>
> console, how
>
> > > do I get back to GNOME?
>
> I've seen a bunch of "CTRL-ALT-??" posts to this question, and I've
> never seen them before.  Is there a doc that explains all of the key
> combinations available?
>

I don't know about specific doc's but it's basically accessing virtual 
consoles. 1 to 6 are for text consoles, which are managed by lines in 
/etc/inittab like:

1:2345:respawn:/sbin/mingetty tty1

which says that for runlevels 2, 3, 4, and 5 start a text getty session on 
virtual console 1 (++)

Some people actually remove this one so that any bootup messages are not 
splatted by the getty session clearing the screen.

Consoles 7 thru 9 (0?) are for X sessions, with 7 being the first (default) X 
console and 8, 9, etc being additional ones.

HTH

Gary


> Thanks!
>
> Ben

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