RE: nfs newbie

2003-08-14 Thread santosh kumar
I think / you can not export and can not mount..

Regards,
santosh

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hi all,
trying out nfs. trying to mount to root dir of another nfs
server
but failed pathetically.

things i did
1) on serverA, enabled nfs and in exports file put in /
serverA.domain.com
2)on serverB, enabled nfs too(not sure right way or not), tried mount -t
nfs
serverA:/ /mnt/local (there is a local dir in there)

i got mount: serverA.domain.com:/ failed reason given by server:
Permission
denied

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Re: nfs newbie

2003-08-14 Thread Rilindo Foster
Oddly enough, I have that same problem earlier today.

Basically, make sure that you account for the reverse of each domain.
Also, in the exportfs file, the server name you are putting in should be
the client or the server that is going to mount the file system on (in
this, A). Like so:

On server A - 
/backup
-rw=10.0.81.115:serverb.net,anon=0,root=10.0.81.115:serverb.net,access=10.0.81.115:serverb.net

On server B -

mount servera:/backup /mnt/backup (it will assume that it is a remote
server with that format).

HTH

On Tue, 2003-08-12 at 00:33, Daniel Tan wrote:
> hi all,
> trying out nfs. trying to mount to root dir of another nfs server
> but failed pathetically.
> 
> things i did
> 1) on serverA, enabled nfs and in exports file put in / serverA.domain.com
> 2)on serverB, enabled nfs too(not sure right way or not), tried mount -t nfs
> serverA:/ /mnt/local (there is a local dir in there)
> 
> i got mount: serverA.domain.com:/ failed reason given by server: Permission
> denied
> 
> Regards,
> Daniel Tan
> 67469188 Ext.665
> DID: 68430665
> MIS Department
> Shop N Save Pte Ltd
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Re: nfs newbie

2003-08-14 Thread Ian Mortimer
> I think / you can not export and can not mount..

You can (at your own risk - especially rw).

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Re: nfs newbie

2003-08-14 Thread Daniel Tan
it did not work on my client server...
i still get same error...i have change the dir to /home as some people
commented that / cant be used.
i have even tried running exportfs -av
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From: "Rilindo Foster" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Subject: Re: nfs newbie


Oddly enough, I have that same problem earlier today.

Basically, make sure that you account for the reverse of each domain.
Also, in the exportfs file, the server name you are putting in should be
the client or the server that is going to mount the file system on (in
this, A). Like so:

On server A -
/backup
-rw=10.0.81.115:serverb.net,anon=0,root=10.0.81.115:serverb.net,access=10.0.
81.115:serverb.net

On server B -

mount servera:/backup /mnt/backup (it will assume that it is a remote
server with that format).

HTH

On Tue, 2003-08-12 at 00:33, Daniel Tan wrote:
> hi all,
> trying out nfs. trying to mount to root dir of another nfs server
> but failed pathetically.
>
> things i did
> 1) on serverA, enabled nfs and in exports file put in / serverA.domain.com
> 2)on serverB, enabled nfs too(not sure right way or not), tried mount -t
nfs
> serverA:/ /mnt/local (there is a local dir in there)
>
> i got mount: serverA.domain.com:/ failed reason given by server:
Permission
> denied
>
> Regards,
> Daniel Tan
> 67469188 Ext.665
> DID: 68430665
> MIS Department
> Shop N Save Pte Ltd
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Re: nfs newbie

2003-08-14 Thread Ian Mortimer

> things i did
> 1) on serverA, enabled nfs and in exports file put in / serverA.domain.com
> 2)on serverB, enabled nfs too(not sure right way or not), tried mount -t nfs
> serverA:/ /mnt/local (there is a local dir in there)
> 
> i got mount: serverA.domain.com:/ failed reason given by server: Permission
> denied

Did you run `exportfs -av' (or similar) after adding the entry to
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Re: nfs newbie

2003-08-12 Thread Daniel Tan
sorry guys...it did work as i forgot to rename /backup to the dir i want.
oops
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it did not work on my client server...
i still get same error...i have change the dir to /home as some people
commented that / cant be used.
i have even tried running exportfs -av
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From: "Rilindo Foster" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2003 12:55 PM
Subject: Re: nfs newbie


Oddly enough, I have that same problem earlier today.

Basically, make sure that you account for the reverse of each domain.
Also, in the exportfs file, the server name you are putting in should be
the client or the server that is going to mount the file system on (in
this, A). Like so:

On server A -
/backup
-rw=10.0.81.115:serverb.net,anon=0,root=10.0.81.115:serverb.net,access=10.0.
81.115:serverb.net

On server B -

mount servera:/backup /mnt/backup (it will assume that it is a remote
server with that format).

HTH

On Tue, 2003-08-12 at 00:33, Daniel Tan wrote:
> hi all,
> trying out nfs. trying to mount to root dir of another nfs server
> but failed pathetically.
>
> things i did
> 1) on serverA, enabled nfs and in exports file put in / serverA.domain.com
> 2)on serverB, enabled nfs too(not sure right way or not), tried mount -t
nfs
> serverA:/ /mnt/local (there is a local dir in there)
>
> i got mount: serverA.domain.com:/ failed reason given by server:
Permission
> denied
>
> Regards,
> Daniel Tan
> 67469188 Ext.665
> DID: 68430665
> MIS Department
> Shop N Save Pte Ltd
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Re: NFS newbie question

2003-07-19 Thread G. Douglas Burton (RH 8.0)
192.168.0.106:/main /mnt/Fileserver2nfs rsize=8192,wsize=8192   0 0

I tried lowering and raising the r/wsize options with no success.  Also 
initially tried //Fileserver2:/main as the mount, but it would not work 
without the IP address instead.

Doug

On Saturday 19 July 2003 10:49, Reuben D. Budiardja wrote:
> On Friday 18 July 2003 06:42 pm, SAQIB wrote:
> > Everything has specific purpsose. NFS was designed for something else,
> > and has lots of other functionality (e.g. NAS solutions are based on NFS
> > stack). For mp3 a open source streaming server or a http server is the
> > way to go.
>
> Wait, that's not entirely correct. I don't want to mislead you, but I have
> used both NFS mounted and Samba mounted file system to play MP3. All works
> fine. In both case, the server is Linux. The client are Lin and Win, and in
> linux I've used both samba and nfs with no problem.
>
> I am not sure what cause your problem, since I am not very verse at NFS
> myself. Others probably can help you with that, but just to let you know
> that it's doable.
>
> BTW, what's in your /etc/fstab for mounting the NFS?
>
> RDB
>
> > Saqib Ali
> > -
> > http://www.xml-dev.com
> >
> > On Fri, 18 Jul 2003, G. Douglas Burton (RH 8.0) wrote:
> > > Okay, the next question is why?  It is difficult for me to believe that
> > > my Windows machines have no problem accessing and playing MP3s from the
> > > Linux server via Samba and yet my Linux machine can't do it either via
> > > Samba or NFS?  So what was all the talk I heard about Linux being such
> > > a wonderful networking OS?  BTW, the Linux desktop machine has 256 Mb
> > > of RAM while most of my WIndows machines are running 128 Mb or less.
> > > Assuming equal network speed for all on the same net, why is this not
> > > enough RAM?  I'll grant you running Gnome and XMMS is part of the
> > > problem, but it does not seem to bother anything when I access the MP3s
> > > which reside on my old Win 95 server.  I'll admit to being a relative
> > > Linux newbie, but I'm just trying to understand...
> > >
> > > Doug
> > >
> > > On Friday 18 July 2003 15:01, SAQIB wrote:
> > > > NFS has too much overhead. I would rather look into streaming via
> > > > HTTP (apache). or an open source streaming solution.
> > > >
> > > > Saqib Ali
> > > > -
> > > > http://www.xml-dev.com
> > > >
> > > > On Fri, 18 Jul 2003, G. Douglas Burton (RH 8.0) wrote:
> > > > > I've recently tried to convert one of my fileservers (80 Gb RH8.0)
> > > > > to NFS.  I have it setup to use Samba for access from Windows
> > > > > machines on my net and they all work just fine when playing MP3s
> > > > > and transferring large files.  But now I want to use my RH 8.0
> > > > > desktop machine to access the server and play MP3s etc.  I tried to
> > > > > use Samba at first and the sound was very choppy (assume from the
> > > > > extra Samba overhead), so I tried to switch to NFS.  Now the songs
> > > > > start off just fine, but then they pause for varying lengths of
> > > > > time (a few seconds to several minutes). Sometimes most of the song
> > > > > will play and then they come to a dead stop. This machine will play
> > > > > MP3s from my Windows server just fine using Samba. I really thought
> > > > > NFS would be the answer I was looking for, any suggestions?
> > > > >
> > > > > Just a message from Doug...
> > > > > -
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Re: NFS newbie question

2003-07-19 Thread Reuben D. Budiardja
On Friday 18 July 2003 06:42 pm, SAQIB wrote:
> Everything has specific purpsose. NFS was designed for something else, and
> has lots of other functionality (e.g. NAS solutions are based on NFS
> stack). For mp3 a open source streaming server or a http server is the way
> to go.

Wait, that's not entirely correct. I don't want to mislead you, but I have 
used both NFS mounted and Samba mounted file system to play MP3. All works 
fine. In both case, the server is Linux. The client are Lin and Win, and in 
linux I've used both samba and nfs with no problem.

I am not sure what cause your problem, since I am not very verse at NFS 
myself. Others probably can help you with that, but just to let you know that 
it's doable. 

BTW, what's in your /etc/fstab for mounting the NFS?

RDB



>
> Saqib Ali
> -
> http://www.xml-dev.com
>
> On Fri, 18 Jul 2003, G. Douglas Burton (RH 8.0) wrote:
> > Okay, the next question is why?  It is difficult for me to believe that
> > my Windows machines have no problem accessing and playing MP3s from the
> > Linux server via Samba and yet my Linux machine can't do it either via
> > Samba or NFS?  So what was all the talk I heard about Linux being such a
> > wonderful networking OS?  BTW, the Linux desktop machine has 256 Mb of
> > RAM while most of my WIndows machines are running 128 Mb or less. 
> > Assuming equal network speed for all on the same net, why is this not
> > enough RAM?  I'll grant you running Gnome and XMMS is part of the
> > problem, but it does not seem to bother anything when I access the MP3s
> > which reside on my old Win 95 server.  I'll admit to being a relative
> > Linux newbie, but I'm just trying to understand...
> >
> > Doug
> >
> > On Friday 18 July 2003 15:01, SAQIB wrote:
> > > NFS has too much overhead. I would rather look into streaming via HTTP
> > > (apache). or an open source streaming solution.
> > >
> > > Saqib Ali
> > > -
> > > http://www.xml-dev.com
> > >
> > > On Fri, 18 Jul 2003, G. Douglas Burton (RH 8.0) wrote:
> > > > I've recently tried to convert one of my fileservers (80 Gb RH8.0) to
> > > > NFS.  I have it setup to use Samba for access from Windows machines
> > > > on my net and they all work just fine when playing MP3s and
> > > > transferring large files.  But now I want to use my RH 8.0 desktop
> > > > machine to access the server and play MP3s etc.  I tried to use Samba
> > > > at first and the sound was very choppy (assume from the extra Samba
> > > > overhead), so I tried to switch to NFS.  Now the songs start off just
> > > > fine, but then they pause for varying lengths of time (a few seconds
> > > > to several minutes). Sometimes most of the song will play and then
> > > > they come to a dead stop. This machine will play MP3s from my Windows
> > > > server just fine using Samba. I really thought NFS would be the
> > > > answer I was looking for, any suggestions?
> > > >
> > > > Just a message from Doug...
> > > > -
> > > > http://users.adelphia.net/~slugg0/
> > > >
> > > >
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Re: NFS newbie question

2003-07-18 Thread G. Douglas Burton (RH 8.0)
Appreciate the thought, but the same XMMS player plays MP3s via my network and 
my Win95 server just fine...

Doug

On Friday 18 July 2003 21:36, Jonathan Bartlett wrote:
> It could be your mp3 player.  Perhaps the others are preloading to remove
> skips and your Linux one isn't?
>
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Re: NFS newbie question

2003-07-18 Thread Jonathan Bartlett
It could be your mp3 player.  Perhaps the others are preloading to remove
skips and your Linux one isn't?

Jon

On Fri, 18 Jul 2003, G. Douglas Burton (RH 8.0) wrote:

> Okay, something has to be wrong with the way I'm doing it.  On this same RH
> 8.0 desktop machine I have Win4Lin installed.  I just started it up and
> opened up Explorer.  Found my Linux server in the network neighborhood and
> double-clicked on an MP3 file.  This brought up FreeAmp, a known resource hog
> and played the song just fine.  All this with Mozilla and Kmail running in
> Gnome at the same time.  Can't be a resource problem, has to be the way I'm
> mounting the Samba share in Linux I think.  Anyone out there use this kind of
> setup to play MP3s in Gnome or KDE from a Linux server?  If so I'd like to
> get an idea of how you word your smbmount command.  Thanks for listening...
>
> Just a message from Doug...
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Re: NFS newbie question

2003-07-18 Thread G. Douglas Burton (RH 8.0)
Okay, something has to be wrong with the way I'm doing it.  On this same RH 
8.0 desktop machine I have Win4Lin installed.  I just started it up and 
opened up Explorer.  Found my Linux server in the network neighborhood and 
double-clicked on an MP3 file.  This brought up FreeAmp, a known resource hog 
and played the song just fine.  All this with Mozilla and Kmail running in 
Gnome at the same time.  Can't be a resource problem, has to be the way I'm 
mounting the Samba share in Linux I think.  Anyone out there use this kind of 
setup to play MP3s in Gnome or KDE from a Linux server?  If so I'd like to 
get an idea of how you word your smbmount command.  Thanks for listening...

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Re: NFS newbie question

2003-07-18 Thread Tom Hosiawa
> Okay, the next question is why?  It is difficult for me to believe that my 
> Windows machines have no problem accessing and playing MP3s from the Linux 
> server via Samba and yet my Linux machine can't do it either via Samba or 
> NFS?  So what was all the talk I heard about Linux being such a wonderful 
> networking OS?  BTW, the Linux desktop machine has 256 Mb of RAM while most 
> of my WIndows machines are running 128 Mb or less.  Assuming equal network 
> speed for all on the same net, why is this not enough RAM?  I'll grant you 
> running Gnome and XMMS is part of the problem, but it does not seem to bother 
> anything when I access the MP3s which reside on my old Win 95 server.  I'll 
> admit to being a relative Linux newbie, but I'm just trying to understand...
> 
> Doug

I'm using samba to play mp3 files on my notebook (256MB of RAM and
11Mbps wireless connection) that reside on an WinXP computer (756MB RAM)
just fine

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Re: NFS newbie question

2003-07-18 Thread SAQIB
Everything has specific purpsose. NFS was designed for something else, and
has lots of other functionality (e.g. NAS solutions are based on NFS
stack). For mp3 a open source streaming server or a http server is the way
to go.


Saqib Ali
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http://www.xml-dev.com

On Fri, 18 Jul 2003, G. Douglas Burton (RH 8.0) wrote:

> Okay, the next question is why?  It is difficult for me to believe that my
> Windows machines have no problem accessing and playing MP3s from the Linux
> server via Samba and yet my Linux machine can't do it either via Samba or
> NFS?  So what was all the talk I heard about Linux being such a wonderful
> networking OS?  BTW, the Linux desktop machine has 256 Mb of RAM while most
> of my WIndows machines are running 128 Mb or less.  Assuming equal network
> speed for all on the same net, why is this not enough RAM?  I'll grant you
> running Gnome and XMMS is part of the problem, but it does not seem to bother
> anything when I access the MP3s which reside on my old Win 95 server.  I'll
> admit to being a relative Linux newbie, but I'm just trying to understand...
>
> Doug
>
> On Friday 18 July 2003 15:01, SAQIB wrote:
> > NFS has too much overhead. I would rather look into streaming via HTTP
> > (apache). or an open source streaming solution.
> >
> > Saqib Ali
> > -
> > http://www.xml-dev.com
> >
> > On Fri, 18 Jul 2003, G. Douglas Burton (RH 8.0) wrote:
> > > I've recently tried to convert one of my fileservers (80 Gb RH8.0) to
> > > NFS.  I have it setup to use Samba for access from Windows machines on my
> > > net and they all work just fine when playing MP3s and transferring large
> > > files.  But now I want to use my RH 8.0 desktop machine to access the
> > > server and play MP3s etc.  I tried to use Samba at first and the sound
> > > was very choppy (assume from the extra Samba overhead), so I tried to
> > > switch to NFS.  Now the songs start off just fine, but then they pause
> > > for varying lengths of time (a few seconds to several minutes).
> > > Sometimes most of the song will play and then they come to a dead stop.
> > > This machine will play MP3s from my Windows server just fine using Samba.
> > >  I really thought NFS would be the answer I was looking for, any
> > > suggestions?
> > >
> > > Just a message from Doug...
> > > -
> > > http://users.adelphia.net/~slugg0/
> > >
> > >
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Re: NFS newbie question

2003-07-18 Thread G. Douglas Burton (RH 8.0)
Okay, the next question is why?  It is difficult for me to believe that my 
Windows machines have no problem accessing and playing MP3s from the Linux 
server via Samba and yet my Linux machine can't do it either via Samba or 
NFS?  So what was all the talk I heard about Linux being such a wonderful 
networking OS?  BTW, the Linux desktop machine has 256 Mb of RAM while most 
of my WIndows machines are running 128 Mb or less.  Assuming equal network 
speed for all on the same net, why is this not enough RAM?  I'll grant you 
running Gnome and XMMS is part of the problem, but it does not seem to bother 
anything when I access the MP3s which reside on my old Win 95 server.  I'll 
admit to being a relative Linux newbie, but I'm just trying to understand...

Doug

On Friday 18 July 2003 15:01, SAQIB wrote:
> NFS has too much overhead. I would rather look into streaming via HTTP
> (apache). or an open source streaming solution.
>
> Saqib Ali
> -
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> On Fri, 18 Jul 2003, G. Douglas Burton (RH 8.0) wrote:
> > I've recently tried to convert one of my fileservers (80 Gb RH8.0) to
> > NFS.  I have it setup to use Samba for access from Windows machines on my
> > net and they all work just fine when playing MP3s and transferring large
> > files.  But now I want to use my RH 8.0 desktop machine to access the
> > server and play MP3s etc.  I tried to use Samba at first and the sound
> > was very choppy (assume from the extra Samba overhead), so I tried to
> > switch to NFS.  Now the songs start off just fine, but then they pause
> > for varying lengths of time (a few seconds to several minutes). 
> > Sometimes most of the song will play and then they come to a dead stop. 
> > This machine will play MP3s from my Windows server just fine using Samba.
> >  I really thought NFS would be the answer I was looking for, any
> > suggestions?
> >
> > Just a message from Doug...
> > -
> > http://users.adelphia.net/~slugg0/
> >
> >
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Re: NFS newbie question

2003-07-18 Thread Bret Hughes
On Fri, 2003-07-18 at 13:39, G. Douglas Burton (RH 8.0) wrote:
> I've recently tried to convert one of my fileservers (80 Gb RH8.0) to NFS.  I 
> have it setup to use Samba for access from Windows machines on my net and 
> they all work just fine when playing MP3s and transferring large files.  But 
> now I want to use my RH 8.0 desktop machine to access the server and play 
> MP3s etc.  I tried to use Samba at first and the sound was very choppy 
> (assume from the extra Samba overhead), so I tried to switch to NFS.  Now the 
> songs start off just fine, but then they pause for varying lengths of time (a 
> few seconds to several minutes).  Sometimes most of the song will play and 
> then they come to a dead stop.  This machine will play MP3s from my Windows 
> server just fine using Samba.  I really thought NFS would be the answer I was 
> looking for, any suggestions?
> 

What mount options did you use when mounting the nfs drive?  You can
increase the block size or something to speed up large file transfers.

Bret


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Re: NFS newbie question

2003-07-18 Thread SAQIB
NFS has too much overhead. I would rather look into streaming via HTTP
(apache). or an open source streaming solution.

Saqib Ali
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On Fri, 18 Jul 2003, G. Douglas Burton (RH 8.0) wrote:

> I've recently tried to convert one of my fileservers (80 Gb RH8.0) to NFS.  I
> have it setup to use Samba for access from Windows machines on my net and
> they all work just fine when playing MP3s and transferring large files.  But
> now I want to use my RH 8.0 desktop machine to access the server and play
> MP3s etc.  I tried to use Samba at first and the sound was very choppy
> (assume from the extra Samba overhead), so I tried to switch to NFS.  Now the
> songs start off just fine, but then they pause for varying lengths of time (a
> few seconds to several minutes).  Sometimes most of the song will play and
> then they come to a dead stop.  This machine will play MP3s from my Windows
> server just fine using Samba.  I really thought NFS would be the answer I was
> looking for, any suggestions?
>
> Just a message from Doug...
> -
> http://users.adelphia.net/~slugg0/
>
>
>
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