[Repeater-Builder] Thanks
Just wanted to say a Big Thanks to Everyone who helped as much as I hate to admit it I' am just to burnt out No Pun intended to work on this anymore, All I ever wanted was a real mot micor repeater . to put in My nice 6 Ft Rack been buying and scrounging parts for 10 Yrs at Hamfest etc. I have a few more local ideas but I hate to ask for help, now have 3 Micor unified units and a bunch of boards. So at least I will have a lot of parts if I Do locate a working one . Wishing everyone the Very best of the Holiday Season Don KA9QJG Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Re: Mitrek radio
Maire Company wrote: any one out there that could and would convert a Mitrek for me? UHF. 100 watt right now it has a muti tone pl board in it. UHF ham or GMRS. thanks John [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.repeater-builder.com/rbtip/micorconversionindex.html Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[Repeater-Builder] TPL website ??
Does anyone know if there is a web site for TPL amps ? Ron Rogers -WB8ERB- Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] TPL website ??
At 11:48 AM 12/16/2003 -0500, you wrote: Does anyone know if there is a web site for TPL amps ? Try http://www.spuriousunstablenevermakethepowerclaimed.com Ken -- President and CTO - Arcom Communications Makers of state-of-the-art repeater controllers and accessories. http://www.ah6le.net/arcom/index.html Our new Repeater Audio Delay (RAD) board is now shipping! Compatible with many controllers! AH6LE/R - IRLP Node 3000 http://www.irlp.net Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: [Repeater-Builder] TPL website ??
http://www.tplcom.com/ Gregg R. Lengling, W9DHI, Retired Administrator http://www.milwaukeehdtv.org K2/100 S#3075 KX1 S# 57 Politics is the art of appearing candid and completely open, while concealing as much as possible. -States: The Bene Gesserit View -Original Message- From: Ken Arck [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2003 10:50 AM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] TPL website ?? At 11:48 AM 12/16/2003 -0500, you wrote: Does anyone know if there is a web site for TPL amps ? Try http://www.spuriousunstablenevermakethepowerclaimed.com Ken -- President and CTO - Arcom Communications Makers of state-of-the-art repeater controllers and accessories. http://www.ah6le.net/arcom/index.html Our new Repeater Audio Delay (RAD) board is now shipping! Compatible with many controllers! AH6LE/R - IRLP Node 3000 http://www.irlp.net Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Micor Delay Line
For a check to cover to cover shipping,I will sell the one I have. I am working on trying to convert a Micor Compa station into a UHF repeater and it came with the delay brick. Contact me directly off-list, Joe N1EZO/8 Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: [Repeater-Builder] Micor Delay Line
Just in case you aren't aware, if the Micor came with an Allen Avionics delay unit, chances are it was a Micor PURC station built for paging. Longshot, it could have been a simulcast voice repeater, but those are extremely rare. If, in fact, it's a PURC, it has a different backplane and a few different cards in the shelf. If you can get your hands on a PURC manual (it's a supplement manual, like the Micor control shelf orange book), it will make the conversion go much easier. I have a lot of Micor PURC's and have converted several to standard repeater use; once you understand the idiosyncracies between the PURC and the standard Micor RT, it's no big deal, but without the book, you'll spend a lot of time chasing down traces on the backplane... --- Jeff - Jeff DePolo WN3A Broadcast and Communications Consultant -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2003 6:50 AM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Micor Delay Line For a check to cover to cover shipping,I will sell the one I have. I am working on trying to convert a Micor Compa station into a UHF repeater and it came with the delay brick. Contact me directly off-list, Joe N1EZO/8 Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater- Builder/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Micor Delay Line
Best thing to do is get the backplane (motherboard) that is used on the more standard Micor Base station and repeater. Life is much simpler that way. Neil McKie - WA6KLA Jeff DePolo WN3A wrote: Just in case you aren't aware, if the Micor came with an Allen Avionics delay unit, chances are it was a Micor PURC station built for paging. Longshot, it could have been a simulcast voice repeater, but those are extremely rare. If, in fact, it's a PURC, it has a different backplane and a few different cards in the shelf. If you can get your hands on a PURC manual (it's a supplement manual, like the Micor control shelf orange book), it will make the conversion go much easier. I have a lot of Micor PURC's and have converted several to standard repeater use; once you understand the idiosyncracies between the PURC and the standard Micor RT, it's no big deal, but without the book, you'll spend a lot of time chasing down traces on the backplane... --- Jeff - Jeff DePolo WN3A Broadcast and Communications Consultant -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2003 6:50 AM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Micor Delay Line For a check to cover to cover shipping,I will sell the one I have. I am working on trying to convert a Micor Compa station into a UHF repeater and it came with the delay brick. Contact me directly off-list, Joe N1EZO/8 Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: [Repeater-Builder] TPL website ??
I think maybe Ken was sending a message not necessarily a valid URL! Mike At 02:17 PM 12/16/2003 -0500, you wrote: Sorrythis must be a mistake because it seems to be the site for MFJ amps !! Ron -WB8ERB- -Original Message- From: Ken Arck [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2003 11:50 AM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] TPL website ?? At 11:48 AM 12/16/2003 -0500, you wrote: Does anyone know if there is a web site for TPL amps ? Try http://www.spuriousunstablenevermakethepowerclaimed.com Ken -- President and CTO - Arcom Communications Makers of state-of-the-art repeater controllers and accessories. http://www.ah6le.net/arcom/index.html Our new Repeater Audio Delay (RAD) board is now shipping! Compatible with many controllers! AH6LE/R - IRLP Node 3000 http://www.irlp.net Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ - Mike PerrymanCavell, Mertz Davis, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Consulting Engineers http://www.cmdconsulting.com 7839 Ashton Avenue K5JMPManassas, VA 20109 USA (703) 392-9090; (703) 392-9559 fax; DC Line (202) 332-0110 - Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: [Repeater-Builder] TPL website ??
Yep, that's why I responded the way I did about MFJ amps.. Ron -WB8ERB- -Original Message- From: Mike Perryman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2003 2:30 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] TPL website ?? I think maybe Ken was sending a message not necessarily a valid URL! Mike At 02:17 PM 12/16/2003 -0500, you wrote: Sorrythis must be a mistake because it seems to be the site for MFJ amps !! Ron -WB8ERB- -Original Message- From: Ken Arck [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2003 11:50 AM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] TPL website ?? At 11:48 AM 12/16/2003 -0500, you wrote: Does anyone know if there is a web site for TPL amps ? Try http://www.spuriousunstablenevermakethepowerclaimed.com Ken --- - -- President and CTO - Arcom Communications Makers of state-of-the-art repeater controllers and accessories. http://www.ah6le.net/arcom/index.html Our new Repeater Audio Delay (RAD) board is now shipping! Compatible with many controllers! AH6LE/R - IRLP Node 3000 http://www.irlp.net Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ - Mike PerrymanCavell, Mertz Davis, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Consulting Engineers http://www.cmdconsulting.com 7839 Ashton Avenue K5JMPManassas, VA 20109 USA (703) 392-9090; (703) 392-9559 fax; DC Line (202) 332-0110 - Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Newbie MSR-2000 crystal - synth question
I have had ICM re-crystal several pairs of channel elements... temp compensated of course. Including shipping I have never paid more than 140.00... As the Krylon folks say... no runs, no drips, no errors flawless service, and element performance every time!! Just my 2 cents worth... mike At 07:44 PM 12/16/2003 +, you wrote: Hi Jeff, It's a crystal controlled unit, you change frequencies by ordering the crystals from Bomar or ICM and changing them yourself. If you're not up to it, both the above companies will re crystal the channel element for you. If you buy one of the Bro-Comm units from Richard as often seen on Ebay for about $500, you won't need to do much to the repeater except align them and connect the cables as the former Canadian Police units are already in the proper range. . If you use the high range vhf MSR-2000's into the Amateur Band, you need to derate the Power amplifier by min 60% to ensure safe operation. The low range Bro-Comm units run full tilt into the ham band. There are three or four versions of the VHF Power Amplifier based on power level, size and duty cycle. Re: you last question. I pay about $10 to $15 per crystal and replace them into the channel elements myself. Typical cost for a pair is often under $45. If you send your channel elements to them, expect them to charge from $25 to $75 per channel element. I've used or tried most brands of crystals and my current Company of Choice is Bomar. cheers skipp025 at yahoo.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, I'm just starting to get into ham radio repeaters and have a couple of beginner type questions. My club is looking to purchase a used MSR-2000 VHF repeater. I've done some background research already and it sounds like a good unit. What I want to know: is it a synthesized or crystalled repeater, and if the latter what are typical costs for having crystals made? Thanks! Jeff Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ - Mike PerrymanCavell, Mertz Davis, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Consulting Engineers http://www.cmdconsulting.com 7839 Ashton Avenue K5JMPManassas, VA 20109 USA (703) 392-9090; (703) 392-9559 fax; DC Line (202) 332-0110 - Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] COR on HT600 for solar repeater
I've had good luck using the dc bias on the speaker output lines, both internal and external, referenced to ground. They will go to a few volts when the audio is enabled. Glenn W8AK Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [[Repeater-Builder] Ever so slightly off topic ... but ...]
You forgot T-Power and Motran. :) Neil McKie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How about Twin-V, Motrac, Micor, Mitrek, RCA Series 700, GE Mastr Pro, Exec, Exec II or Mastr II crystals? A used crystal is much, much cheaper than buying it new. ;) Thank you in advance, Neil BTW, I think I have some Motorola 5V crystals somewhere ... Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[Repeater-Builder] Re: Micor Delay Line
Jeff DePolo WN3A [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Worked very well as long as the microwave hops to the site didn't have too much group delay. Those Allen Avionics analog delay lines have horrible group delay, Not uncommon. The real setup is to have equalization along with the delay lines. You'd need it anyway if you're dealing with often neglected microwave hops. distortion/ringing, and frequency response abberations. I've put them on my HP 8903 audio analyzer and decided they weren't going to be worthwhile for my simulcast repeater project. The original application was a tone and voice paging system. You'd have to know what this delay line was orignally spec for. You can tweak their performance them to some degree by tailoring both the source and load Z depending on the delay setting but I never found a combination that I was thrilled with. Loading other than the design impedance changes the operational preformance pretty fast. The unit described is probably an early or mid 80's vintage at best. Things are much better these days, and a lot cheaper. I've got several GE Delta-S radios on the air as exciters that I modified for use with an external GPS reference oscillator. Nice, but one must start with the initial system preformance and align it right. Most people don't know how to properly align simulcast systems. Right now they're on the air as a sloppycast system with no audio delay correction. Probably sounds rough in areas with overlap. Someday when I have more time (yeah, right) I want to work on a digital delay solution. For now, lacking audio delay, S-Comm makes a killer digital delay board that's really cheap (cost wise) with excellent preformance. If you have an older controller with an audio delay board, you can diddle it, but it won't stay on long term. You'd have to reset it every x-months/weeks. You need one less number of delays than transmitters you have on the air. the repeaters that are being sloppycasted are far enough apart that the distortion in areas where there is a little overlap is noticible but not unbearable. It's been done before, even in some commercial dual mountain repeater systems. How well did the voice simulcast system work with the AA delay lines? Every system required a proof of preformance, which means it had to work well. I don't remember the exact model of delay lines we used, but additional hardware is/was always required to make them play well. How bad was the audio in the areas with common coverage? You could not tell it was a simulcast system, other than it was loud in all places and sounded great. I've heard voice paging on Micor PURC simulcast systems and always though it sounded horrible... --- Jeff Then something was not done right. Every one of them should sound good, else its back to the drawing board. cheers Jeff regards skipp025 at yahoo.com Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Micor Delay Line
I agree,they arent the best delay solution. We were never happy with their performance,audio sounded phase distorted and limited response. They were replaced with Glenayre's with digital delay cards that worked much better. Old technology vs new...73,Lee,N3APP - Original Message - From: Jeff DePolo WN3A [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Micor Delay Line Worked very well as long as the microwave hops to the site didn't have too much group delay. Those Allen Avionics analog delay lines have horrible group delay, distortion/ringing, and frequency response abberations. I've put them on my HP 8903 audio analyzer and decided they weren't going to be worthwhile for my simulcast repeater project. You can tweak their performance them to some degree by tailoring both the source and load Z depending on the delay setting but I never found a combination that I was thrilled with. I've got several GE Delta-S radios on the air as exciters that I modified for use with an external GPS reference oscillator. Right now they're on the air as a sloppycast system with no audio delay correction. Someday when I have more time (yeah, right) I want to work on a digital delay solution. For now, lacking audio delay, the repeaters that are being sloppycasted are far enough apart that the distortion in areas where there is a little overlap is noticible but not unbearable. How well did the voice simulcast system work with the AA delay lines? How bad was the audio in the areas with common coverage? I've heard voice paging on Micor PURC simulcast systems and always though it sounded horrible... --- Jeff - Jeff DePolo WN3A Broadcast and Communications Consultant Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[Repeater-Builder] MSR-2000 query
Hey guys, I need some guidance from someone familiar with the MSR-2000 VHF station. I was just given one of these set up as a wire line remote/repeater and I thought I got the proper manuals with it. The 'radio manual' I was given is for a Micor and none of the strips look anything like what is in the MSR. Are the strips from the Mitrek? The system manual is for the MSR 2000 and everything is OK there. Do I need a Mitrek manual? Also, this system was on 171 and 172 MHz. I'm thinking I should replace the rx and exciter strips to get this on 2M rather than do a range conversion on what I have. Anyone got suitable strips for swap or sale? Can I just rob strips from a suitable (Mitrek?) mobile? I have worked with MASTR II mobile conversion stuff lately. This is my first Motorola since I set up an 80D/Sensicon G a long time ago. Thanks! Conard, WS4S Upper Cumberland Amamteur Radio Association Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[Repeater-Builder] New Pics..
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[Repeater-Builder] Prom
Hello, I have a cw id'er for the MSR-2000. I need a prom part# N825123N a 48m48 prom chip 256bit. Any help would be appreciated. Ken ve3oks Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[Repeater-Builder] PC based controller
Anybody knows about a PC based repeater controller software other than Echostation, either DOS or Linux based OS? Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [Repeater-Builder] PC based controller
www.qsl.net/n3app - Original Message - From: Stephane Montpetit To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2003 6:53 PM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] PC based controller Anybody knows about a PC based repeater controller software other than Echostation, either DOS or Linux based OS? Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [Repeater-Builder] PC based controller
Here are two that I found. Larry KB8VUM http://www.qsl.net/kb5ryo/version1.htm http://www.metronic.nu/rlm/whatis.html Stephane Montpetit wrote: Anybody knows about a PC based repeater controller software other than Echostation, either DOS or Linux based OS? Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Micor Delay Line
The original application was a tone and voice paging system. You'd have to know what this delay line was orignally spec for. I have two different models. I found the datasheets for both and they were spec'ed for something like 300-2800 Hz frequency response at something like +/- 3 dB. There were no specs for distortion or group delay/phase distortion. Nice, but one must start with the initial system preformance and align it right. Most people don't know how to properly align simulcast systems. I know the prerequisites for both RF and audio performance, including the potential benefits of staggered frequency offsets, optimization for the worst overlap area(s) versus simple geographic distance/time delay, maintaining consistant frequency response and proper AF bandwidth limiting, minimizing receiver IF distortion/group delay, etc. I'm not saying what I have on the air right now, without audio delay, is correct...I was just saying that the transmitters are still on the air GPS-locked, the packages are all built identically (with well-tuned IF's on the link receivers listening to the same outbound source transmitter, transmitter AF mods, etc.) but I haven't dealt with the audio delay issues yet. Probably sounds rough in areas with overlap. It's not great, but it's not terrible. Fortunately the sites are within a few miles' difference in distance from the origination point so the delay error is only a few tens of ms. It sounds a bit watery in the worst overlap areas where both signals are relatively weak and compete with each other by probably only a few dB. In areas where there is a bigger delta in signal strengths the effect is obviously much less noticible due to capture. Still sounds better than Nextel anyway :-) S-Comm makes a killer digital delay board that's really cheap (cost wise) with excellent preformance. The resolution in the delay settings is way too coarse though. The old BBD devices theoretically could provide the resolution needed, but they have inherent drawbacks on their own, let alone the time delay stability issues. Better digital delays are available from Simulcast Solutions and others. You could not tell it was a simulcast system, other than it was loud in all places and sounded great. Sounds like it worked better than many of the systems that have been installed within the last few years on 800 MHz around here... Then something was not done right. Every one of them should sound good, else its back to the drawing board. I think the intentional frequency offets that were done to improve digital paging worked against them when sending voice pages. What is best for FEC and minimizing inter-symbol interference for simulcast digital paging isn't necessarily the most pleasant-sounding when sending voice pages...it may have been a tradeoff. --- Jeff Jeff DePolo WN3A - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Broadcast and Communications Consultant Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[Repeater-Builder] hi speed DTMF
Has anyone gotten and RLC-4 or 2a controller to accept high speed touch tones?? I have an encoder capable of well over 20 digits per second, but I plan to stick to about 15 digits/s. I would like to use this for control since I do not mute DTMF on the output. James Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[Repeater-Builder] Re: MSR-2000 query
--- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Conard Murray [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ...my PA is either a TLD2603A or a TLD9394A. .. ___ TLD2603A is the 100 Watt continuous duty 162-174 range PA. Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Cabling for Interconnect on Newly Built Duplexer
Kevin, This is an excellent question, and it should generate many responses. The correct answer depends on several variables. It makes a difference if your cavities are strictly bandpass, strictly notch, or pseudo-bandpass/notch. The difference between these types is mainly in the coupling loop geometries, and whether the ends of the loops are grounded, or are tuned with a variable capacitor. The intuitive answer is that the impedance is the same at both ends of a half-wave length of cable, and is opposite at both ends of a quarter-wave length of cable. If I were connecting two bandpass cavities in series, I would expect that the jumper cable must be a half wavelength long, minus the lengths of the coupling loops themselves, and the connectors. The coupling loops are in air, while the cable velocity factor must be considered. Ah, but reality is not quite so simple! The degree of coupling by the loops at both ends of the jumper cable affects the phasing, and therefore the length, of the jumper cable. So, there is no simple answer. As much as I'd like to tell you to cut the jumper cables to xx centimeters each, I cannot. Since you do know the manufacturer and the model number of your cavities, I suggest that you contact that manufacturer's tech support, and ask for the dimensions of the cables needed to make the cavities work properly as a duplexer. You may learn that the coupling loops in one or more of your cavities must be changed to achieve this goal. 73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY Kevin Natalia Mitchell wrote: Hi All, I have just built a new set of 6x filters into a duplexer on 2m. The problem I now have is what length do I make the interconnecting cables between each filter, and then the output cables to feed 1x antenna. I have read some information on this subject, however they do not appear to agree with each other. One says a 1/4 wave of the freq. required for the interconnect, another says any length, in multiplies of 1/4 wave. And for the output/input, it says 1 length a 1/4 wave to a TEE with the other 1/2 wave, and again another piece of information says both the same length to the TEE. If I could get the correct information, I will build the 2m duplexer, then maybe look at building some UHF filters as well. BTW, filters are commercially made by Deltec, a NZ based firm. Regards Kevin, ZL1UDD. Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] hi speed DTMF
Hi James, Has anyone gotten and RLC-4 or 2a controller to accept high speed touch tones?? I have an encoder capable of well over 20 digits per second, but I plan to stick to about 15 digits/s. I would like to use this for control since I do not mute DTMF on the output. You can do it, but you might not want to. The DTMF decoder used in the 2A is an 8870, made by several companies. The decode speed is controlled by C81 (0.1 uF) and R58 (300K). Those are typical values for 40 mS decoding (telephone company standard). You can make R58 smaller to speed up the decode time. But the voice talkoff rate will increase, and in fact, many repeater owners do the opposite and slow down their DTMF decoders for that reason. Certain voices seem to register digits pretty well. 73, Bob, WA9FBO S-COM, LLC Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [Repeater-Builder] MSR-2000 query
Conard, For the MSR2000 stations, you will need the 6881061E50 Service Manual, and the 6881061E40 Control and Audio Manual. Once you have these on hand, you can determine whether or not your equipment can be converted to 2m at an affordable cost. Not all MSR2000 stations will tune to 2m, especially to the 144-146 MHz segment. 73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey guys, I need some guidance from someone familiar with the MSR-2000 VHF station. I was just given one of these set up as a wire line remote/repeater and I thought I got the proper manuals with it. The 'radio manual' I was given is for a Micor and none of the strips look anything like what is in the MSR. Are the strips from the Mitrek? The system manual is for the MSR 2000 and everything is OK there. Do I need a Mitrek manual? Also, this system was on 171 and 172 MHz. I'm thinking I should replace the rx and exciter strips to get this on 2M rather than do a range conversion on what I have. Anyone got suitable strips for swap or sale? Can I just rob strips from a suitable (Mitrek?) mobile? I have worked with MASTR II mobile conversion stuff lately. This is my first Motorola since I set up an 80D/Sensicon G a long time ago. Thanks! Conard, WS4S Upper Cumberland Amamteur Radio Association Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Micor Delay Line
On Tuesday, Dec 16, 2003, at 14:46 America/Denver, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: S-Comm makes a killer digital delay board that's really cheap (cost wise) with excellent preformance. If you have an older controller with an audio delay board, you can diddle it, but it won't stay on long term. You'd have to reset it every x-months/weeks. You need one less number of delays than transmitters you have on the air. Bob sold the rights to the digital delay board to another company quite some time ago now. S-Com no longer sells them. ICS does. http://www.scomcontrollers.com/3rdparty.shtml http://www.ics-ctrl.com/dadm/dsdadm.html Nate Duehr, [EMAIL PROTECTED] - WY0X Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] PC based controller
Stephane Montpetit wrote: Anybody knows about a PC based repeater controller software other than Echostation, either DOS or Linux based OS? Yup... http://www.repeater-builder.com/pc/ Kevin Custer Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [Repeater-Builder] PC based controller
On Tuesday, Dec 16, 2003, at 17:16 America/Denver, Larry Thomas wrote: Here are two that I found. Larry KB8VUM http://www.qsl.net/kb5ryo/version1.htm http://www.metronic.nu/rlm/whatis.html People are experimenting with IRLP version 3 boards and some C code that a few of the guys hacked together in the [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list - downloads are in the web-based Files area. I don't have one set up, but a number of the folks I talk to in the IRLP Installation Team group do. Nate Duehr, [EMAIL PROTECTED] - WY0X Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[Repeater-Builder] Re: MSR-2000 query
Conrad, I just finished doing a full conversion to a MSR2000 wireline station. First get the channel elements recrystaled and put them in and try to align the station. I don't remember the freq breaks. the mod that I came up with removed All controll cards and put in about 3 jumpers on the back plain with push on conectors. The station is one of the best stations in the area. First the Manual is two parts one for the control shelf one for the radio. let me know how it goes. If you need assistance just let me know I'll be glad to help. 73 AC0Y --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey guys, I need some guidance from someone familiar with the MSR-2000 VHF station. I was just given one of these set up as a wire line remote/repeater and I thought I got the proper manuals with it. The 'radio manual' I was given is for a Micor and none of the strips look anything like what is in the MSR. Are the strips from the Mitrek? The system manual is for the MSR 2000 and everything is OK there. Do I need a Mitrek manual? Also, this system was on 171 and 172 MHz. I'm thinking I should replace the rx and exciter strips to get this on 2M rather than do a range conversion on what I have. Anyone got suitable strips for swap or sale? Can I just rob strips from a suitable (Mitrek?) mobile? I have worked with MASTR II mobile conversion stuff lately. This is my first Motorola since I set up an 80D/Sensicon G a long time ago. Thanks! Conard, WS4S Upper Cumberland Amamteur Radio Association Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[Repeater-Builder] Re: MSR-2000 query
Repeater operation should require a Squelch Gate, Station Control and hopefully a Time Out Timer module. Base Station requires a line driver, and control module(s), depending on dc or tone control. The Line Driver can be found in full or half duplex 2/4 wire options. Jumpers need to be setup on the Modules and Backplane. Moving high range strips down can be a pain, better to swap into low range if you can find them easy enough. Sell me your old high range strips cheap. :-) The PA might operate at 40% rated power without damage, which should be checked before trusting my or anyone else's word. The mitrek is often considered the mobile version of the MSR, they have a similar line of construction and some parts do interchange. Another less known radio was the Motrek, a mitrek someone kept pulling parts out of until it stopped working, then put the last part back in and shipped it out for sale. The Motrek and Mitrek strips will not interchange with the MSR-2000 strips. If you wish to revist the Sensicon, G strips or Research Line, I just found a batch in a storage tub. Cousins to the GE Pre-Prog and other pre-motrac back breakers. cheers skipp025 at yahoo.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey guys, I need some guidance from someone familiar with the MSR-2000 VHF station. I was just given one of these set up as a wire line remote/repeater and I thought I got the proper manuals with it. The 'radio manual' I was given is for a Micor and none of the strips look anything like what is in the MSR. Are the strips from the Mitrek? The system manual is for the MSR 2000 and everything is OK there. Do I need a Mitrek manual? Also, this system was on 171 and 172 MHz. I'm thinking I should replace the rx and exciter strips to get this on 2M rather than do a range conversion on what I have. Anyone got suitable strips for swap or sale? Can I just rob strips from a suitable (Mitrek?) mobile? I have worked with MASTR II mobile conversion stuff lately. This is my first Motorola since I set up an 80D/Sensicon G a long time ago. Thanks! Conard, WS4S Upper Cumberland Amamteur Radio Association Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [[Repeater-Builder] Ever so slightly off topic ... but ...]
So how come we don't have a yahoo group for the exchange of crystals and channel elements? BillWB0KSW - Original Message - From: JOHN MACKEY [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2003 1:43 PM Subject: Re: [[Repeater-Builder] Ever so slightly off topic ... but ...] You forgot T-Power and Motran. :) Neil McKie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How about Twin-V, Motrac, Micor, Mitrek, RCA Series 700, GE Mastr Pro, Exec, Exec II or Mastr II crystals? A used crystal is much, much cheaper than buying it new. ;) Thank you in advance, Neil BTW, I think I have some Motorola 5V crystals somewhere ... Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [[Repeater-Builder] Ever so slightly off topic ... but ...]
Yes, I have some Motrans ... but no T-Powers. Motrans, as you know, take the Same channel Elements that the Motracs do. I also left off any hint about the Motorola Research Line and GE Progress Line radios. Neil JOHN MACKEY wrote: You forgot T-Power and Motran. :) Neil McKie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How about Twin-V, Motrac, Micor, Mitrek, RCA Series 700, GE Mastr Pro, Exec, Exec II or Mastr II crystals? A used crystal is much, much cheaper than buying it new. ;) Thank you in advance, Neil BTW, I think I have some Motorola 5V crystals somewhere ... Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: MSR-2000 query
AC0Y, I wouldn't mind seeing how you did your Mod. I picked up a micor from a friend and it was done the same way without any cards. Basically the receiver and transmitter. No Control cards at all. I can see the jumpers you are talking about, but would like to see what else you did and I am hoping to be able to relate it to this micor. Corey N3FE -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2003 7:50 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: MSR-2000 query Conrad, I just finished doing a full conversion to a MSR2000 wireline station. First get the channel elements recrystaled and put them in and try to align the station. I don't remember the freq breaks. the mod that I came up with removed All controll cards and put in about 3 jumpers on the back plain with push on conectors. The station is one of the best stations in the area. First the Manual is two parts one for the control shelf one for the radio. let me know how it goes. If you need assistance just let me know I'll be glad to help. 73 AC0Y --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey guys, I need some guidance from someone familiar with the MSR-2000 VHF station. I was just given one of these set up as a wire line remote/repeater and I thought I got the proper manuals with it. The 'radio manual' I was given is for a Micor and none of the strips look anything like what is in the MSR. Are the strips from the Mitrek? The system manual is for the MSR 2000 and everything is OK there. Do I need a Mitrek manual? Also, this system was on 171 and 172 MHz. I'm thinking I should replace the rx and exciter strips to get this on 2M rather than do a range conversion on what I have. Anyone got suitable strips for swap or sale? Can I just rob strips from a suitable (Mitrek?) mobile? I have worked with MASTR II mobile conversion stuff lately. This is my first Motorola since I set up an 80D/Sensicon G a long time ago. Thanks! Conard, WS4S Upper Cumberland Amamteur Radio Association Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.547 / Virus Database: 340 - Release Date: 12/2/2003 Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: MSR-2000 query
I have the manuals for your Research Line, Sensicon G, G strips, GE Pre-prog and pre Motracs. Neil - WA6KLA [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Repeater operation should require a Squelch Gate, Station Control and hopefully a Time Out Timer module. Base Station requires a line driver, and control module(s), depending on dc or tone control. The Line Driver can be found in full or half duplex 2/4 wire options. Jumpers need to be setup on the Modules and Backplane. Moving high range strips down can be a pain, better to swap into low range if you can find them easy enough. Sell me your old high range strips cheap. :-) The PA might operate at 40% rated power without damage, which should be checked before trusting my or anyone else's word. The mitrek is often considered the mobile version of the MSR, they have a similar line of construction and some parts do interchange. Another less known radio was the Motrek, a mitrek someone kept pulling parts out of until it stopped working, then put the last part back in and shipped it out for sale. The Motrek and Mitrek strips will not interchange with the MSR-2000 strips. If you wish to revist the Sensicon, G strips or Research Line, I just found a batch in a storage tub. Cousins to the GE Pre-Prog and other pre-motrac back breakers. cheers skipp025 at yahoo.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey guys, I need some guidance from someone familiar with the MSR-2000 VHF station. I was just given one of these set up as a wire line remote/repeater and I thought I got the proper manuals with it. The 'radio manual' I was given is for a Micor and none of the strips look anything like what is in the MSR. Are the strips from the Mitrek? The system manual is for the MSR 2000 and everything is OK there. Do I need a Mitrek manual? Also, this system was on 171 and 172 MHz. I'm thinking I should replace the rx and exciter strips to get this on 2M rather than do a range conversion on what I have. Anyone got suitable strips for swap or sale? Can I just rob strips from a suitable (Mitrek?) mobile? I have worked with MASTR II mobile conversion stuff lately. This is my first Motorola since I set up an 80D/Sensicon G a long time ago. Thanks! Conard, WS4S Upper Cumberland Amamteur Radio Association Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Micor Delay Line
well it WAS a micor PURC. it HAD a 900 MHZ receiver, all the simulcast stuff, a 300 watt Loband transmitter, card racks and so on... HOWEVER it came in a really nice cabinet (like new) so I gutted it out and right now im packing it with GE's :-P. Dave KF6WJA PS.. thanks for the info there everyone. - Original Message - From: Jeff DePolo WN3A [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2003 10:10 AM Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Micor Delay Line Just in case you aren't aware, if the Micor came with an Allen Avionics delay unit, chances are it was a Micor PURC station built for paging. Longshot, it could have been a simulcast voice repeater, but those are extremely rare. If, in fact, it's a PURC, it has a different backplane and a few different cards in the shelf. If you can get your hands on a PURC manual (it's a supplement manual, like the Micor control shelf orange book), it will make the conversion go much easier. I have a lot of Micor PURC's and have converted several to standard repeater use; once you understand the idiosyncracies between the PURC and the standard Micor RT, it's no big deal, but without the book, you'll spend a lot of time chasing down traces on the backplane... --- Jeff - Jeff DePolo WN3A Broadcast and Communications Consultant -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2003 6:50 AM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Micor Delay Line For a check to cover to cover shipping,I will sell the one I have. I am working on trying to convert a Micor Compa station into a UHF repeater and it came with the delay brick. Contact me directly off-list, Joe N1EZO/8 Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater- Builder/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Micor Delay Line
well I didn't can the stuff. I still have all of it.. however there is someone that has claimed the oscillator and the exciter. and I am going keep the loband pa. thought it might be fun for 6 meters. however I have the card slots, the cards, and some data box thing (no clue what it is). not to sure what to do with the receiver. might make a good 900 mhz control receiver. Dave KF6WJA - Original Message - From: Neil McKie [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2003 9:44 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Micor Delay Line Oh gosh ... I was in your area a few weeks ago. If I had known you were trying to get rid of the PURC station, I would have been interested in adding it to my collection. I came back here with the truck half loaded ... or was that half empty ... ? Neil - WA6KLA Dave Stephens wrote: well it WAS a micor PURC. it HAD a 900 MHZ receiver, all the simulcast stuff, a 300 watt Loband transmitter, card racks and so on... HOWEVER it came in a really nice cabinet (like new) so I gutted it out and right now im packing it with GE's :-P. Dave KF6WJA PS.. thanks for the info there everyone. - Original Message - From: Jeff DePolo WN3A [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2003 10:10 AM Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Micor Delay Line Just in case you aren't aware, if the Micor came with an Allen Avionics delay unit, chances are it was a Micor PURC station built for paging. Longshot, it could have been a simulcast voice repeater, but those are extremely rare. If, in fact, it's a PURC, it has a different backplane and a few different cards in the shelf. If you can get your hands on a PURC manual (it's a supplement manual, like the Micor control shelf orange book), it will make the conversion go much easier. I have a lot of Micor PURC's and have converted several to standard repeater use; once you understand the idiosyncracies between the PURC and the standard Micor RT, it's no big deal, but without the book, you'll spend a lot of time chasing down traces on the backplane... --- Jeff - Jeff DePolo WN3A Broadcast and Communications Consultant -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2003 6:50 AM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Micor Delay Line For a check to cover to cover shipping,I will sell the one I have. I am working on trying to convert a Micor Compa station into a UHF repeater and it came with the delay brick. Contact me directly off-list, Joe N1EZO/8 Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater- Builder/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Re: [[Repeater-Builder] Ever so slightly off topic ... but ...]]
hmmm... I would have to check my books, but didn't the low band motran use a different channel element than the low band motrac on transmit? (Or did they BOTH use the TLN-1082?) I can tell you with great certainty that the UHF motran used a different channel element than the UHF motrac in BOTH transmit receive. But other than the transmitters the UHF motran, all the motrac/motran receivers used the same elements. Neil McKie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes, I have some Motrans ... but no T-Powers. Motrans, as you know, take the Same channel Elements that the Motracs do. I also left off any hint about the Motorola Research Line and GE Progress Line radios. Neil JOHN MACKEY wrote: You forgot T-Power and Motran. :) Neil McKie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How about Twin-V, Motrac, Micor, Mitrek, RCA Series 700, GE Mastr Pro, Exec, Exec II or Mastr II crystals? A used crystal is much, much cheaper than buying it new. ;) Thank you in advance, Neil BTW, I think I have some Motorola 5V crystals somewhere ... Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
