[Repeater-Builder] IFR 1200
Regarding IFR 1200, and maybe the COM 120; Several years ago I heard about "someone" who had developed a pico-fuse holder antenna input for the 1200; kinda like is in the M. R2600 monitor (little 1/8 or even 1/16 amp green picofuse behind the BNC Female connector. Anyone else ever hear about this? Have info? Can share??? Chuk Gleason Cary, NC Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[Repeater-Builder] Re: PL on a MASTR II
First let me say before anyone else, GE doesn't have "PL" that having been said lets get to it. Look at the PTT input line on the SS64 this turns on and off the CTCSS encode. I dont have a schematic in front of me right now, but I beleave that it is active low. When this line goes low it turns on the encoder. I used this same approach, keying off COR active to turn on encode so that only when there is acitivity does the encoder turn on. This way people who have their radio set for CTCSS Decode only hears the QSO no Iding or anything else. It's also easy to hook up so that decode turns on encode or both (decode + COR) turns on decode. 73 AC0Y --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, "Steaven Rogers, W4YI" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > This has probably been asked before, but I didn't pay attention then. I > have a MASTR II and a ComSpec SS-64 Encoder. I am needing to hook the > encoder up so that it transmits a tone ONLY when the repeater RX is > active. Also, the controller is a CAT-300DX if that makes a > difference. Can anyone tell me the easy way to do this? > > Thanks > > Steaven, W4YI > IRLP Node 7520 Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[Repeater-Builder] Ericsson DRC-200 VCO Lock?
Has anyone had experience moving a DRC-200 (450-470) to the 440 Ham Band? It looks like the VCO won't lock at 441 MHz John K6SJH Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] WTB - Dead Kenwood TKR -820
Hey Jeff, What parts do you need? Russ, W3CH - Original Message - From: "Jeff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Thursday, June 03, 2004 10:20 AM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] WTB - Dead Kenwood TKR -820 > WTB - Dead Kenwood TKR-820 repeaters for parts. > Thanks, Jeff Peters, K9JP > e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Rockwell antenna
This is used for what the goverment calls there UHF band. 225 to 399 MHZ this one should be cut for 243.00 as a center freq. Good luck. 73 Russ - Original Message - From: "Rick - VA3RZS/Charlotte - VA3CMR" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Cc: ; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, June 03, 2004 1:37 PM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Rockwell antenna > I am looking for some information on this ant > > Rockwell > UHF antenna > 522-6409-005 > type 437B-1 > > I was told this is in the 220 band ... but looking for more information > > this ant is verry heavy and built verry will .. 2 1/2 inch mountting > hole .. ( steel plate)aprox 54 Inch's long 5 inch's in diam. and the ant > is cased in white fiberglass > > Thanks for any and all help > > Rick > > > Rick Szajkowski VA3 RZS > Charlotte Darby VA3 CMR > Node Owners of IRLP Node 2120 > Lakefield Ont Canada > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Wacom WP-641, correction on its specs...
Ok, I'll re-word that to desense, not isolation Kerry - Original Message - From: "Kevin Custer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Monday, May 31, 2004 9:48 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Wacom WP-641, correction on its specs... > kerry wrote: > > >If you are not using a pll exciter, it's hard to get the isolation > >Kerry > > > > The type of exciter used has nothing to do with how much isolation the > duplexer exhibits. > > Kevin Custer > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[Repeater-Builder] New guy
Hello all: Interesting list you have here. I am wondering if there is anyone out there with info on a repeater I picked up a few months ago... Mfg Western Radio Services Inc. of Seattle Washington Model WR-454 It's an x-tal oldie that puts about 10w out on 463Mhz, shuld pull down to 70cm with no problem I figure. The rx has a blown af amp though. Rx works well otherwise. All in a nice grey 19" rack mount pkg. Not being used to looking at repeaters I am wondering why there is two x-tal sockets in the tx and rx units only one of which is used? As is the norm the manual and schematics are missing. Tnx and 73 Nick Blacklock VE3EBC Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[Repeater-Builder] WTB - Dead Kenwood TKR -820
WTB - Dead Kenwood TKR-820 repeaters for parts. Thanks, Jeff Peters, K9JP e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[Repeater-Builder] micor repeater
looking for repeater parts for a uhf micor.power supply,manual,etc.. Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[Repeater-Builder] Rockwell antenna
I am looking for some information on this ant Rockwell UHF antenna 522-6409-005 type 437B-1 I was told this is in the 220 band ... but looking for more information this ant is verry heavy and built verry will .. 2 1/2 inch mountting hole .. ( steel plate)aprox 54 Inch's long 5 inch's in diam. and the ant is cased in white fiberglass Thanks for any and all help Rick Rick Szajkowski VA3 RZS Charlotte Darby VA3 CMR Node Owners of IRLP Node 2120 Lakefield Ont Canada Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] looking for two or three d8085ac-2 8 bit 40 pin prossors 3 mhz?
Randy: 8085's are available from the surplus shops, including some of the sources that have been mentioned and B. G. Micro (I think). I have collected a couple of extra's also for various projects. If you can't find any, I will look and see if I still have the one I bought. It does sound like from your description that the CPU has a power problem. However, it could also be the 12 volt to 5 volt regulator that has gone bad and while it is internally OK, it drops under current drain. This might be consistent with an increase in the series resistance that shows full voltage open circuit and drops with current draw. Processors are so internal to the device that they are usually the last things to go. A friend of mine who designs embedded systems and has done several 8085 projects indicates to me that in all of the stuff he has dealt with, he had never seen a processor go down. The point is that if it got the microprocessor, it may have also taken a lot of the other IC's also. It may be the combination of other chips or the regulator. I hope this is helpful. Micheal Salem N5MS randy kisthardt wrote: > hello > im looking to buy two or so d8085ac-2 prossors to repair my acc rc- > 96, that got a surg on the phone line. > the prossor was pulling down the 5 volt rail and pulling it out > retured the 5 volts. im sure its bad. > everthing elce looks ok so far ,the connect relay is toast but i got > one of them and the transistor that turns it on . i need a prossor to > go aney further > with it. i miss the old controller all readey. we have been getting > bad storms here in south kentucky latley. i know now that i shuld > have grounded the ground terminal on the back of the controller. i > thought that the signal grounds were the same. the termnial grounds > the discharge tube.im learning the hard way ha ha so if you got one > or two you can part with or know of a place i can get a few > reasonable or a good sub with out big minumin order > please let me know > > thanks > randy AG4ZQ > > Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] buillding a repeater
Original Message: - From: Jim B. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 03 Jun 2004 10:12:51 -0400 To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] buillding a repeater [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > There was a factory forced air ass'y for MICOR repeaters? (other than > for the 1/4 KW?) I know a few 100W 2-Meter and UHF 75-watt MICOR > repeaters that need something like that, although muffin fans above > the heat sink probably work fine, too. LJ > Are you talking about this: C53MHY - 150.8 - 162 > MHz - continuous duty repeater. (Came with the factory blower > assembly.) > That's a Motrac station. -- Jim Barbour WD8CHL Sure enough, I missed the "MH" portion. LJ Yahoo! Groups Links mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://mail2web.com/ . Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] looking for two or three d8085ac-2 8 bit 40 pin prossors 3 mhz?
randy kisthardt wrote: > hello > im looking to buy two or so d8085ac-2 prossors to repair my acc rc- > 96, that got a surg on the phone line. what's a prossor? -- Jim Barbour WD8CHL Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] buillding a repeater
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > There was a factory forced air ass'y for MICOR repeaters? (other than > for the 1/4 KW?) I know a few 100W 2-Meter and UHF 75-watt MICOR > repeaters that need something like that, although muffin fans above > the heat sink probably work fine, too. LJ > Are you talking about this: C53MHY - 150.8 - 162 > MHz - continuous duty repeater. (Came with the factory blower > assembly.) > That's a Motrac station. -- Jim Barbour WD8CHL Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] PL on a MASTR II
This is very esay! The pin marked hook. Send this over to your COR, set it up so when it see's a carrier it goes to high or away from ground. this will make it so that the comm-spec bd stops the tone when there is no carrier. I did this for ILRP so that I would not transmitt the ID to ILRP. Good luck, Russ, W3CH - Original Message - From: "Steaven Rogers, W4YI" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: ; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, June 03, 2004 12:19 AM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] PL on a MASTR II > This has probably been asked before, but I didn't pay attention then. I > have a MASTR II and a ComSpec SS-64 Encoder. I am needing to hook the > encoder up so that it transmits a tone ONLY when the repeater RX is > active. Also, the controller is a CAT-300DX if that makes a > difference. Can anyone tell me the easy way to do this? > > Thanks > > Steaven, W4YI > IRLP Node 7520 > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Desense
> NO I will be sending the Weather Warning on the Mur . For the Family > that > have their children at the parks etc. If that's your real reason... Take the weather radio out of the repeater cabinet, down to the park, and plug it into a decent audio PA and a loudspeaker and set it in Alert mode. You'll have the added comfort of saving the lives of poor families with children that don't have the money to be able to buy MURS radios. And you'll have less struggle shielding it from the repeater(s). And just think! NWS RF engineers went through all that trouble to set up decent coverage patterns and lots of transmitters in town just so people at the park could receive the signal. Amazing. Almost like they planned it or something. What will they think of next? $10 WeatherRadios at Radio Shack? I can hardly wait! ;-) (Heh heh...) Nate WY0X (Sorry Don, your sob story about the families with children at parks had me laughing out loud... families that can afford to outfit everyone with MURS radios, but can't think far enough ahead to go inside when it's raining, look at a weather forecast at least once a day, leave a commercial broadcast radio on in the background (EBS), or buy a WeatherRadio... and are so clueless that you have to "rescue" them with illegal MURS broadcasts from NWS. That's rich. I was laughing hard enough that it hurt on that one! Maybe they need to enroll the kids in Scouting instead of Little League. Then maybe the kids will take care of Mom and Dad and bring the rain ponchos for them too.) Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] SQ-1000 vs RLC-MOT Squelch
> > Scott Zimmerman and I have been working on an > analogue replica of the > Micor Squelch for some time (several years). Since > the Micor Squelch > chip is still available we haven't spent any serious > time perfecting > it. Some day the Micor Squelch chip will be hard to > come by, and we'll > dig out our version of this circuit, perfect it, and > turn it into a product. > > Kevin Custer I dug out my Micor squelch replicant and started playing with it a few weeks ago. I had some prototype boards etched and I built up one to try. Actually, the AS board on the local 440 machine (a Micor mobile) died and instead of putting in a mother M replacement, I shoved mine in there to test it out. I have a built in audio buffer, just like the original, but no audio amplification (we don't need speaker audio on our repeaters). Anyway, it's been running for about a month now, and I can't tell it from the real thing. I'm very happy with how it works on the micor, probably need to get some out to test on other types of receivers. I put an LED on it so I can see when the squelch opens, but except for that it draws less than 10 mA. I have an onboard open collector transistor, and a positive going voltage when unsquelched, so it will work with about any type of controller. It's on a board about 2 x 2.5 inches, I just screwed it into one of the holes that previously held the original AS board. Anyway, when I get some time (after field day) I'll probably build the other 5 up, and make them available for testing on different radios. Would be one more option for use, if they pan out OK. Joe __ Do you Yahoo!? Friends. Fun. Try the all-new Yahoo! Messenger. http://messenger.yahoo.com/ Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] SQ-1000 vs RLC-MOT Squelch
I have to agree on the little Link-Comm RLC-MOT board. You give it +12VDC, discriminator audio, and you get out a nice high or low-going COS signal and gated audio, along with that great MICOR strong/weak signal squelch action switching. It's just so convenient and works so well, I just automatically plan to add one to just about any repeater/link needing a good COS signal and gate audio (like for some of the ACC controllers). It comes with double-sided sticky tape and will fit just about anywhere even if you don't have much room available. I wonder if anyone has added one of the RLC-MOT boards to any of their ICOM IC-900 series band modules or used one with any of the Kenwood radios and a Doug Hall RBI-1 interface? If you have, I'd be interested to know how and where you used one, and how you liked it. I have both some 6 and 10-Meter ICOM band modules and an RBI-1 with Kenwood radios for 2M, 220, 440 and 1200 MHz. Larry K7LJ Original Message: - From: Kevin Custer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 02 Jun 2004 22:21:49 -0400 To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] SQ-1000 vs RLC-MOT Squelch Hi, The Link Comm unit is much smaller and much better suited for installation in other than Micor equipment. Of course, this 'convenience' comes at a price, but if you aren't cramped for space there is no advantage of the Link Comm unit since it is solely based on the Micor Squelch Chip. The Link Comm product is, in my opinion, the best choice for adding a quality carrier squelch to any radio lacking a good one, at this time. It is a very popular upgrade in our Mastr II, MVP and Mitrek mobile conversions. I have used every replica squelch board available today, including the SQ-1000. The SQ-1000 is the better choice of all of the replica boards, but like all of them, it's digital and it operates like it's digital. These replica boards use processors that aren't fast enough, in my opinion, for analogue like squelch action. Another problem is some of these boards suffer from insufficient high pass filtering and voice talk off, along with other issues, can really become a problem. The SQ-1000 has sufficient HP filtering, but I just don't care for a digitally derived carrier squelch. Scott Zimmerman and I have been working on an analogue replica of the Micor Squelch for some time (several years). Since the Micor Squelch chip is still available we haven't spent any serious time perfecting it. Some day the Micor Squelch chip will be hard to come by, and we'll dig out our version of this circuit, perfect it, and turn it into a product. Kevin Custer Thomas Staley Jr. wrote: > What do you think of the RLC-MOT vs getting a used Micor audio card? > > > Kevin Custer wrote: > >>Thomas Staley Jr. wrote: >> >> >> >>>Any thoughts on the two squelch cards? I'm looking for the dual squelch >>>action of the Micor squelch circuit. >>> >>> >> >>At this point in the game, there is no substitute or equivalent to the >>Micor squelch chip, in my opinion. >>The RLC-MOT actually uses the Motorola Micor chip, so it would be the >>one of choice between your two suggestions... >> >>Kevin Custer >> mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://mail2web.com/ . Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] buillding a repeater
There was a factory forced air ass'y for MICOR repeaters? (other than for the 1/4 KW?) I know a few 100W 2-Meter and UHF 75-watt MICOR repeaters that need something like that, although muffin fans above the heat sink probably work fine, too. LJ Original Message: - From: Neil McKie [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 02 Jun 2004 20:06:30 -0700 To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] buillding a repeater I agree about collecting Micor parts ... goes for GE-cor (Ok, Mastr II) too. The manufacturers haven't been supporting those radios in a very long time, you you don't sandbag for the day when you might need some spare parts, who will? I nearby friend just unloaded 8 more Micor cabinets with various radios in them last week. Part of that includes: C42RCB - 72-76 MHz Micor Station C71RTB - 42-50 MHz Micor Station (a two freq transmitter & 2 one freq receivers.) C53MHY - 150.8 - 162 MHz - continuous duty repeater. (Came with the factory blower assembly.) Multi other stuff too. Ok, who is looking for what? I have enuf here to be able to part as the need ariszes. Neil - WA6KLA Mike Perryman wrote: > > If in fact the power control module turns out to be a problem let me > know... I have a box full of them. Whenever I hear of someone throwing > Micor components away I try to scarf them up. Just for repair parts, if > nothing else > > 73's > Mike > K5JMP > > At 01:08 PM 06/02/2004 -0400, you wrote: > >You should see about 350-500 milliwatts going to the pa deck and the > >bias/control line must be connected properly to the station frame. Many > >times I see these stations for sale at hamfests with the jumper wire > >allowing the pa to run only full-tilt-boogey, which is why they crash > >and burn so often - the control circuit is there to help cut back or > >turn off the power when the swr gets bad from someone stepping on your > >feedline or the antenna falling away entirely from wind or > >who-knows-what. If I remember correctly the bias line is blue 18AWG > >wire, sample there in parallel to ground and switch to some 75 ohm > >feedline to the dummy load - the voltage has to change or the pa will > >burn up at the site. It is really helpful if you have manuals but as you > >may notice I do more with sample and trial then draw the schematic and > >continue troubleshooting along the path of suspicion, slow but very > >informative. > > > >David wrote: > > > > > > I have a problem. I have a micor base/repeater and over the weekend I tuned > > > it up to my frequency and was testing out and I am not getting any > > power out > > > the exciter is producing some power as I can hear the radio a hundred feet > > > away with it going into a dummy load. the watt meter tested okay > > on another > > > radio. the pa is getting power and I have tried adjusting the power > > control > > > to no avail. I don't think the triple low level amp is working. but I > > am not > > > sure how to fix it. > > > >-- > >73...Clark Beckman N8PZD > > > > > > > > > > > >Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > - >Mike PerrymanCavell, Mertz & Davis, Inc. >[EMAIL PROTECTED] Consulting Engineers >http://www.cmdconsulting.com 7839 Ashton Avenue >K5JMPManassas, VA 20109 USA >(703) 392-9090; (703) 392-9559 fax; DC Line (202) 332-0110 > - > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://mail2web.com/ . Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Programming for Motorola Syntor
At 03:43 AM 6/1/04 +, you wrote: >I am looking for someone that can help with the programming of a >Motorola Syntor 8 Channel Radio. Thanks. > >Mathew You might want to check out WB6YMH's little board. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/xcat From the announcement message: >To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com >From: "wb6ymh" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Date: Thu, 04 Mar 2004 19:47:24 - >Subject: [Repeater-Builder] off topic: Syntor X controller > >I know this is a bit off topic, but perhaps some of you will >be interested anyway... > >I've recently designed and built a simple minded Syntor X code >plug replacement that allows external control of operating >frequency and PL. My primary aim is to allow a Syntor X to be >used in a remote base with complete control of frequency and >encode/decode PL tones from a control system. > >Unlike other Syntor X controller projects I've found on the Web >(Piexx, Anaconda X, k3jls) my interface does not require trace >cuts and only requires a single soldered connection. The rest of >the interface simply plugs into the code plug socket in place of >the original module. The Syntor could be restored to it's >original condition in a couple of minutes. > >Although my primary interest is for remote base it may also be >useful for mobile applications as well. Mode 1 is used as a VFO >if you will, but modes 2 to 32 are available for normal usage. >The computer interface can be used to recall the contents of any >mode into mode 1 for modification. Once modified it can be >stored back into any desired mode. Modes are stored in flash >memory and are nonvolatile. A simple LCD display and keypad >could be created to complement a standard Motorola Syntor X >control group if desired. > >Currently my software implements the Icom CI-V protocol. I'm >also adding support for the "Doug Hall" RB-1 "generic data" >protocol that I believe is supported by a wider range of control >systems. My target controller is a Link Comm rlc3, but I'd like >to make it compatible with as many controllers as possible. > >Since I need several of these I'm going to make a circuit >board for it. I've done a few kitchen sink PCBs and I've had >my fill of them! The PCB will be fabricated by a professional >board house and the board will be built by a professional >assembly house. Hence (finally!) the reason for my message >... > >Would anyone be interested in purchasing a an assembled >controller ready to pop into a Syntor X for around $100? I will >also include a Windows program that can be used to control the >Syntor and program the mode data. > >I'm not expecting to make any money on this project, just recoup >the setup charges and costs for a small run of PCBs. > >I chose the Syntor X primarily because "one followed me home". >On the other hand I think it was a good choice because the >original Syntor wasn't broadbanded and the Syntor X 9000 is in >too much demand to be dirt cheap just yet. > >The controller supports the low band (10 *AND* 6 meters without >retuning), VHF and UHF radios. > >I've created a Yahoo group for my project called xcat (for "X >Computer Aided Tuning"). There's nothing much there yet since >I've been concentrating on finishing the code rather than >writing documentation. I have posted a picture of the current >prototype in case you're interested. I'll be posting status >and documentation to the group as things progress. You're >welcome to join us @ http://groups.yahoo.com/group/xcat/ . > >If you are interested please drop me a note or join the xcat >group. I don't want to pollute the repeater builder group more >than I already have. > >73's Skip WB6YMH Mike WA6ILQ Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Programming for Motorola Syntor
If you are going to do the effort, why re-invent the wheel? You're welcome ... Neil Mathew Quaife wrote: > > Thanks Niel, this looks very interesting. Resurect the dead. > > Mathew > > - Original Message - > From: "Neil McKie" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: > Sent: Wednesday, June 02, 2004 8:52 PM > Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Programming for Motorola Syntor > > > > > Please click on http://www.piexx.com/SynDoc/Syndoc.html > > > > Neil - WA6KLA > > > > N9WYS wrote: > > > > > > Matthew and all, > > > > > > I'm currently working on documentation for a modification to allow > > > use of the VHF Syntor in the 2m ham bands. As soon as I get it > > > finished, I will post it to the Repeater-Builder's website. > > > > > > As far as programming itself, there are a few people out there who > > > can actually burn a PROM for you, but I don't have the equipment > > > (yet). There is even one or two who have a plug-in module that > > > replaces the one-time PROM with an EEPROM. > > > > I believe if you check with Paul Bennett, N7OCS, he may be able > > to assist you. [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > 73, > > > > Neil - WA6KLA > > > > > > > > > > Mark > > > > > > -Original Message- > > > From: w9mwq [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Sent: Monday, May 31, 2004 10:43 PM > > > To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com > > > Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Programming for Motorola Syntor > > > > > > I am looking for someone that can help with the programming of a > > > Motorola Syntor 8 Channel Radio. Thanks. > > > > > > Mathew > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] PL on a MASTR II
Although I have one myself, I don't recall if the CAT has any link ports. If it does, drive the encoder off a link TX output (and don't forget to put the link in TX mode). Otherwise, you will have to find a way to pad the COS to drive both the controller and the encoder. It appears you may be in luck. From the CAT page: "When enabled, user function switch #3 is converted to a transceiver PTT while Logic input #1 is converted to a transceiver COR" So, just enable that and use SW #3 to drive the encoder. :-) Joe M. Steaven Rogers, W4YI wrote: > > This has probably been asked before, but I didn't pay attention then. I > have a MASTR II and a ComSpec SS-64 Encoder. I am needing to hook the > encoder up so that it transmits a tone ONLY when the repeater RX is > active. Also, the controller is a CAT-300DX if that makes a > difference. Can anyone tell me the easy way to do this? Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[Repeater-Builder] PL on a MASTR II
This has probably been asked before, but I didn't pay attention then. I have a MASTR II and a ComSpec SS-64 Encoder. I am needing to hook the encoder up so that it transmits a tone ONLY when the repeater RX is active. Also, the controller is a CAT-300DX if that makes a difference. Can anyone tell me the easy way to do this? Thanks Steaven, W4YI IRLP Node 7520 Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Programming for Motorola Syntor
Thanks Niel, this looks very interesting. Resurect the dead. Mathew - Original Message - From: "Neil McKie" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Wednesday, June 02, 2004 8:52 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Programming for Motorola Syntor > > Please click on http://www.piexx.com/SynDoc/Syndoc.html > > Neil - WA6KLA > > N9WYS wrote: > > > > Matthew and all, > > > > I'm currently working on documentation for a modification to allow > > use of the VHF Syntor in the 2m ham bands. As soon as I get it > > finished, I will post it to the Repeater-Builder's website. > > > > As far as programming itself, there are a few people out there who > > can actually burn a PROM for you, but I don't have the equipment > > (yet). There is even one or two who have a plug-in module that > > replaces the one-time PROM with an EEPROM. > > I believe if you check with Paul Bennett, N7OCS, he may be able > to assist you. [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > 73, > > Neil - WA6KLA > > > > > > Mark > > > > -Original Message- > > From: w9mwq [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: Monday, May 31, 2004 10:43 PM > > To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com > > Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Programming for Motorola Syntor > > > > I am looking for someone that can help with the programming of a > > Motorola Syntor 8 Channel Radio. Thanks. > > > > Mathew > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] SQ-1000 vs RLC-MOT Squelch
At 08:08 PM 6/2/04 -0400, "Thomas Staley Jr." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >What do you think of the RLC-MOT vs getting a used Micor audio card? You can do that - all you need is raw discriminator audio, two 25k pots, and +9.6 volts DC. If you need a PL decode line you need to add a PL decoder board - it plugs into the audio-squelch card. Note that there are two different PL decode boards - if I remember correctly there are 5-pin and 7-pin cards. The Micor audio PA is not needed in a repeater environment. If you want a local speaker amp just use an LM386. It also consumes a lot less DC current. Mike WA6ILQ Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Programming for Motorola Syntor
Please click on http://www.piexx.com/SynDoc/Syndoc.html Neil - WA6KLA N9WYS wrote: > > Matthew and all, > > I'm currently working on documentation for a modification to allow > use of the VHF Syntor in the 2m ham bands. As soon as I get it > finished, I will post it to the Repeater-Builder's website. > > As far as programming itself, there are a few people out there who > can actually burn a PROM for you, but I don't have the equipment > (yet). There is even one or two who have a plug-in module that > replaces the one-time PROM with an EEPROM. I believe if you check with Paul Bennett, N7OCS, he may be able to assist you. [EMAIL PROTECTED] 73, Neil - WA6KLA > > Mark > > -Original Message- > From: w9mwq [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Monday, May 31, 2004 10:43 PM > To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com > Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Programming for Motorola Syntor > > I am looking for someone that can help with the programming of a > Motorola Syntor 8 Channel Radio. Thanks. > > Mathew > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] SQ-1000 vs RLC-MOT Squelch
I like the Micor squelch card idea as it is a whole hell of a lot cheaper. Neil - WA6KLA > "Thomas Staley Jr." wrote: > > What do you think of the RLC-MOT vs getting a used Micor audio card? > > Kevin Custer wrote: > > > Thomas Staley Jr. wrote: > > > > > > > >> Any thoughts on the two squelch cards? I'm looking for the dual > >> squelch > >> action of the Micor squelch circuit. > >> > >> > >> > > At this point in the game, there is no substitute or equivalent to > > the > > Micor squelch chip, in my opinion. > > The RLC-MOT actually uses the Motorola Micor chip, so it would be > > the > > one of choice between your two suggestions... > > > > Kevin Custer > > > > > > > > > > --- > Yahoo! Groups Links > >* To visit your group on the web, go to: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ > >* To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >* Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of > Service. Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] buillding a repeater
I agree about collecting Micor parts ... goes for GE-cor (Ok, Mastr II) too. The manufacturers haven't been supporting those radios in a very long time, you you don't sandbag for the day when you might need some spare parts, who will? I nearby friend just unloaded 8 more Micor cabinets with various radios in them last week. Part of that includes: C42RCB - 72-76 MHz Micor Station C71RTB - 42-50 MHz Micor Station (a two freq transmitter & 2 one freq receivers.) C53MHY - 150.8 - 162 MHz - continuous duty repeater. (Came with the factory blower assembly.) Multi other stuff too. Ok, who is looking for what? I have enuf here to be able to part as the need ariszes. Neil - WA6KLA Mike Perryman wrote: > > If in fact the power control module turns out to be a problem let me > know... I have a box full of them. Whenever I hear of someone throwing > Micor components away I try to scarf them up. Just for repair parts, if > nothing else > > 73's > Mike > K5JMP > > At 01:08 PM 06/02/2004 -0400, you wrote: > >You should see about 350-500 milliwatts going to the pa deck and the > >bias/control line must be connected properly to the station frame. Many > >times I see these stations for sale at hamfests with the jumper wire > >allowing the pa to run only full-tilt-boogey, which is why they crash > >and burn so often - the control circuit is there to help cut back or > >turn off the power when the swr gets bad from someone stepping on your > >feedline or the antenna falling away entirely from wind or > >who-knows-what. If I remember correctly the bias line is blue 18AWG > >wire, sample there in parallel to ground and switch to some 75 ohm > >feedline to the dummy load - the voltage has to change or the pa will > >burn up at the site. It is really helpful if you have manuals but as you > >may notice I do more with sample and trial then draw the schematic and > >continue troubleshooting along the path of suspicion, slow but very > >informative. > > > >David wrote: > > > > > > I have a problem. I have a micor base/repeater and over the weekend I > > > tuned > > > it up to my frequency and was testing out and I am not getting any > > power out > > > the exciter is producing some power as I can hear the radio a hundred feet > > > away with it going into a dummy load. the watt meter tested okay > > on another > > > radio. the pa is getting power and I have tried adjusting the power > > control > > > to no avail. I don't think the triple low level amp is working. but I > > am not > > > sure how to fix it. > > > >-- > >73...Clark Beckman N8PZD > > > > > > > > > > > >Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > - >Mike PerrymanCavell, Mertz & Davis, Inc. >[EMAIL PROTECTED] Consulting Engineers >http://www.cmdconsulting.com 7839 Ashton Avenue >K5JMPManassas, VA 20109 USA >(703) 392-9090; (703) 392-9559 fax; DC Line (202) 332-0110 > - > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: [Repeater-Builder] looking for two or three d8085ac-2 8 bit 4 0 pin prossors 3 mhz?
Lots of parts houses carry the good old Intel 8085 and 80C85 "workhorses". Check Digikey, JDR Micro Devices, Mouser, etc. Ron WW8RR -Original Message- From: randy kisthardt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, June 02, 2004 10:07 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Repeater-Builder] looking for two or three d8085ac-2 8 bit 40 pin prossors 3 mhz? hello im looking to buy two or so d8085ac-2 prossors to repair my acc rc- 96, that got a surg on the phone line. the prossor was pulling down the 5 volt rail and pulling it out retured the 5 volts. im sure its bad. everthing elce looks ok so far ,the connect relay is toast but i got one of them and the transistor that turns it on . i need a prossor to go aney further with it. i miss the old controller all readey. we have been getting bad storms here in south kentucky latley. i know now that i shuld have grounded the ground terminal on the back of the controller. i thought that the signal grounds were the same. the termnial grounds the discharge tube.im learning the hard way ha ha so if you got one or two you can part with or know of a place i can get a few reasonable or a good sub with out big minumin order please let me know thanks randy AG4ZQ Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] SQ-1000 vs RLC-MOT Squelch
Hi, The Link Comm unit is much smaller and much better suited for installation in other than Micor equipment. Of course, this 'convenience' comes at a price, but if you aren't cramped for space there is no advantage of the Link Comm unit since it is solely based on the Micor Squelch Chip. The Link Comm product is, in my opinion, the best choice for adding a quality carrier squelch to any radio lacking a good one, at this time. It is a very popular upgrade in our Mastr II, MVP and Mitrek mobile conversions. I have used every replica squelch board available today, including the SQ-1000. The SQ-1000 is the better choice of all of the replica boards, but like all of them, it's digital and it operates like it's digital. These replica boards use processors that aren't fast enough, in my opinion, for analogue like squelch action. Another problem is some of these boards suffer from insufficient high pass filtering and voice talk off, along with other issues, can really become a problem. The SQ-1000 has sufficient HP filtering, but I just don't care for a digitally derived carrier squelch. Scott Zimmerman and I have been working on an analogue replica of the Micor Squelch for some time (several years). Since the Micor Squelch chip is still available we haven't spent any serious time perfecting it. Some day the Micor Squelch chip will be hard to come by, and we'll dig out our version of this circuit, perfect it, and turn it into a product. Kevin Custer Thomas Staley Jr. wrote: What do you think of the RLC-MOT vs getting a used Micor audio card? Kevin Custer wrote: Thomas Staley Jr. wrote: Any thoughts on the two squelch cards? I'm looking for the dual squelch action of the Micor squelch circuit. At this point in the game, there is no substitute or equivalent to the Micor squelch chip, in my opinion. The RLC-MOT actually uses the Motorola Micor chip, so it would be the one of choice between your two suggestions... Kevin Custer Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Converting a MASTR Desk Mate
LL201 = late radio Mastr-Pro / early cabinet ... The transmitter may easily go to 51.84 or it may not. In the past my fix was to remove one turn from the final grid tank coil and it will tune in range. Just an opinion here, Neil - WA6KLA Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Micor Amp TLD1693 and I'm Confused
If you want the amplifier to be resonate in a split for which it was not designed, you have to change the resonating parts. If you do not want the amplifier to be resonate, do not change the resonating parts. If I drive a 80 Meter amplifier hard enough with a 40 Meter signal, you will get a 40 Meter signal out, but the amplifier is not resonate. If you resonate the amplifier, the current drawn goes down and heat produced goes down for a specified output. The Micor amplifier used transistors that were not constant impedance. As you shift the amplifier from resonance, current goes up, heat goes up, power goes down and spurious products go up as the impedance of the transistor changes. The reason Motorola designed the amplifier in four ranges to cover 136 to 174 was to keep the impedance of the stages correct over the frequency range. You can become a good neighbor and operate the amplifier at resonance, or you can operate it off resonance and stand a good chance of helping to deny hams access to other towers owned by the company that is providing you tower space. My suggestion is operate the amplifier at resonance, keep your power bill down, keep your repair costs down and become a good neighbor to the other users of the RF spectrum. 73 Glenn WB4UIV At 01:28 PM 06/02/04, you wrote: >Try using a short piece of 75 ohm feedline and watch the smoke come from >the caps over the finals - your existing phase detector won't work well >off the laboratory test bench. Most of the caps need to be increased >slightly and the two blocks which are bandpass filters will need to be >changed or modded to allow the full potential to reach the phase >detector located next to the output port, make sure you have a 80-110 >watt phase detector board in place before you hike to the repeater site >and connect. > >w9mwq wrote: > > > > I have a Micor TLD1693 amp, designed for the 150 to 162 Mhz range, > > and am told that the amp will not operate at the 146 Mhz range, told > > that componets have to be changed. Here is what I don't understand > > about it, maybe someone can help expain it. Into a Cushman serive > > monitor, I'm getting 100 Watts out of the amp at both 146.925 and > > 154.115 Mhz, keyed down the temperature is the same after a 5 min > > keyup test, allowed to cool down for each test. I see no spikes or > > spurs at either frequency. Granted this will be used on a repeater > > and key down times can go much longer, but why would this amp not > > operate at 2 meters, just cause Motorola says the specs are for 150 > > to 162. I've seen amps go from 138 to 174 with no problems, just a > > matter of tweaking. So help me to understand what the difference > > really is between the TLD1693 and the TLD1692 amps. Thanks. > > > > Mathew > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > >-- >73...Clark Beckman N8PZD > >Pursuant to U.S. Code, title 47, Chapter 5, Subchapter II, ß227, >"Any and all nonsolicited commercial E-mail sent to this address >is subject to a download and archival fee of $500.00 U.S.". >E-mailing denotes acceptance of these terms. > > > > > >Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[Repeater-Builder] looking for two or three d8085ac-2 8 bit 40 pin prossors 3 mhz?
hello im looking to buy two or so d8085ac-2 prossors to repair my acc rc- 96, that got a surg on the phone line. the prossor was pulling down the 5 volt rail and pulling it out retured the 5 volts. im sure its bad. everthing elce looks ok so far ,the connect relay is toast but i got one of them and the transistor that turns it on . i need a prossor to go aney further with it. i miss the old controller all readey. we have been getting bad storms here in south kentucky latley. i know now that i shuld have grounded the ground terminal on the back of the controller. i thought that the signal grounds were the same. the termnial grounds the discharge tube.im learning the hard way ha ha so if you got one or two you can part with or know of a place i can get a few reasonable or a good sub with out big minumin order please let me know thanks randy AG4ZQ Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Amplifier Question
it should be a highband 40 watt in 140 watt out. if you open it up should be a single board with 2 paralleled output devices (assuming I remember it all correctly) Trilectric was bought by DB and operated out of their Chicago (actually Hoffman Estates) lab unitl they were bought out - Original Message - From: "Kevin Bednar" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Wednesday, June 02, 2004 1:39 PM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Amplifier Question > Anyone have the specs available on a Decibel A40140MC-H amplifier? Input > power/output power/freq range, etc? I have acquired one and would like to > know if it can be used in the ham bands. It is also labeled Trilectric on > it, with the model number A40140H. It looks like they are the actual > manufacturer but I cant find any info on the web with this model number > under either the Trielectric or DB name. TIA to all. > > Kev > K2KMB > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
